Ottoman Empire > Roman Empire > Byzantine """"""""""Empire""""""""""""
Why was Ottoman Empire so based guys? They slapped Russia like a bitch.
I wish I could witness full glory of the Turkish force.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ErgSS6DzaCk
>>58016253
They missed on industrialization, that's why, and made most of their fortune on plunder outside of their borders. The same structures continued to plunder within the borders when the expansion stopped. The Byzantines were a civilization of Constantinople versus the province, most being suffocated by that city patch on the Bosphorus. Overly centralized and structurally incompetent, murderous in its succession and highly inefficient to even maintain basic tax schemes. I don't know why people drool over the ERE? Only because it was Christian? It's Roman legacy?
And the Roman Empire was all of the above, on steroids
Roman empire >> Ottoman Empire >>> Byzantine Empire
The Byzantine Empire was a damn joke, worst empire to exist. A disgrace. Fucking Greeks.
>>58016253
You're polish, why don't you celebrate the fact that your contribution to the Battle of Vienna contributed so much to the defence of Europe?
>>58016667
Because Europe repayed us with partitions and anti-polonism.
Fuck Europe.
>>58016531
This.
They couldn't even conquer Montenegro, what an absolute shit empire.
>>58016253
el polCACO
>>58016747
Those are Ragusa and the Venetian possessions in Dalmatia.
>>58016869
I know, but IRL they never, ever conquered Montenegro.
>>58016253
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuPAOwklNA
>>58016946
Are those greek women?
>>58017086
That makes me so hard,seeing orthodox woman getting fucked by their muslim overlords....
Poor greeks...
>>58017086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqFNIdxHYYY
>>58017137
>>58017174
>>58017013
Serbs
>>58016253
>The Ottoman Empire was one of only two countries in the world that refused to accept the partitions and reserved a place in its diplomatic corps for an Ambassador of Lehistan (Poland).
Long live Poland, best rival.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oovg2fzn9vo
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>>58017240
why aren't they albanian/croat,how do you know thaT?
>>58017251
>>58017240
>Lehistan (Poland).
Based, one of the few countries that called us by our real name.
Tatar sub human detected
>>58017288
>>58017368
I'm actually a german-pole kek.
>>58017372
Wish we had more competent politicians so we could cooperate in modern day.
I love my Turkbros, but Roman empire is still better.
Also, Christianos ad Leonem.
>>58016253
bump
>>58016869
Holy shit the autism is real here.
Venetian possessions were at the coast, never inland into the mountain ranges. Secondly Ragusa turned into Ottoman's bitch ever since they started paying tribute to them. I love sources saying that they "maintained independence" but paid tribute. Well that's an oxymoron, if you're paying tribute to another power then de facto you're not independent. When Dracula didn't want to pay tribute the Ottomans attacked Wallachia and eventually vassalized it.
What did the Roman empire left?
Architecture, culture, civilization.
What did the ottoman empire left?
Dirt roads and mosques.
kek @ this thread
>>58016253
It's sad that there are so many shitskins who are darker than me and pretend to be whites.
if it wasn't for ottomans being retards out of touch with any progress atm balkans would be Czech Republic tier
they missed out of rennaisance and industrial revolution both, backwards idiots
butthurt balk posts inc.
>>58018192
No, those were Venetian possessions on the coast. They don't get into mountain ranges in OP's map as well, I don't see why you would disagree with me regarding what's on the coast.
Regarding Ragusa, it all comes down whether the dude who made the map considers satellite states part of the Empire or not, I agree that when it comes to that kind of matters borders can differ, you can find maps that explicitly state vassals, those which just add them to its lord, and those which just leaves them as independent.
Thanks for teaching us to build cannons.
Best kebab
>>58016531
Being attacked by barbarians every single minute was not so great tb.h. Also add the natural disasters that happened in it.
>>58017086
Those are probably serbian and bulgarian since it represents the balkan rebellions in 1850s. Greece was independent at that time.
Also OP is very likely to be proxy or a turkroach in poland.
Are there any polish bros here to ask him something in polish?
>>58019282
Aceh is the biggest shithole in Indonesia.
Jakkarta is a close second.
>>58019426
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>58018192
>"maintained independence" but paid tribute.
Croatia pays tribute to the NATO and the EU too.
Ragusa got protection for their money and trade rights.
Ragusa wrote their own laws.
You know dick and look everything trough 19-20 century glasses.
>>58019426
Gówno mnie obchodzi co masz do powiedzenia Grecka kurwo.
Nienawidzę pierdolonych Bizantyńskich pizd. Sram na waszą Europę, chuj wam w dupę.
1683 to był błąd.
>>58016919
why would they?
poor province with fortresses and crap terrain without any possible danger to the empire
>>58019489
Why? Because sharia?
>>58019780
Okay. Did a greekanon triggered you in a thread somewhere here?
If that's the case then god bless him whoever he was.
>>58016946
>instrumentals
fuckin haram
>>58019780
>1683 to był błąd.
I second this.
Being a christian first and a merchant next is not something you do in Europe. IT's the other way around. Should've splitted Austria and be done with it.
>>58019966
One of the bigger reasons, yes.
>>58020125
Or you just got triggered thanks to a greekanon.
poland you retard
>>58020125
Did you really had to delete it?
>>58019282
but you failed
Roman Empire > Ottoman-Byzantine Empire > "Holy" """Roman""" """"""Empire"""""
>>58020419
he deleted my fuck turkey post
he must be a turk
>>58016253
are you mad or turkish?roman empire was better than the ottomans
>>58020435
So much for freedom of shitposting.
>>58016253
this song is too good
it almost makes me like turks
>>58016253
t. Turkish diaspora
>>58020704
Sram ci do ryja, pakistańczyku.
>>58020739
I'm not a Paki I'm Turkish
>>58020865
kapa çeneni köle ::Ddd
>>58020906
defol köylü :DDDDDD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yed_LBjsKlQ
>MONEY IS MONEY LAN
Where do i get Ottomans raping balkan/slav girls porn?
>>58021106
TRIGGERED
>>58017251
>>58017288
>>58017217
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>>58017139
we got our revenge for all that тbh
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Ottoman_Muslims
>>58016253
OTTOMAN EMPIRE IS GARBAGE RUINED ROME
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>58021446
>RUINED ROME
Rome was already dead
>>58021480
Byzantine Empire = Rome
>>58021494
No.
>>58021518
>>58021518
Literally yes, the continuation of Rome. They even called themselves Romans, byzantine is a later word
>>58021543
Germans called themselves Romans too.
>>58021629
>>58021657
Who cares what they called themselves?
They weren't Romans. They lost all the battles against Arabs and Turks.
>>58021691
>>58021034
>MINAKODUĞUM COCUUUU LOOK!
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>>58021034
amina koydugum britlerine acayip kilim ulan. gotum yaniyor gotum. o cunt aksanlarini sikertmek istiyorum.
YANIYORUM ULAN.
