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What's the best place in USA to live in?
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What's the best place in USA to live in?

Where do you wish you lived if you could live in USA?

Miami looks great but i probably couldn't survive the heat, so probably LA is the best for me.
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>>57925599
Washington state
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>>57925599
do not move to LA, it is quite possibly the worst city in the US, for one it's expensive as hell, a one room apartment could cost you thousands. The people there are awful too, all fake cvcks. Tristate is also expensive, and the people there are just plain old assholes. Miami is nice I guess, but Florida is a strange place and also expensive. These places are also all very polluted. Texas is probably the best state you could come to, the food is good, people are genuinely nice, we aren't cucks, and it's very cheap compared to those other shit holes. Stay away from Houston though, that place is awful.
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>>57927868
Yeah I heard LA is full of blacks and mexicans.

What's the job outlook for a software engineer in Texas?
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>>57925599
California of course. I want to reborn as nigger in Compton's ghetto.
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What do 'muricans think of Seattle?
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>>57928465
Full of hipsters and yuppies. It's also the new San Francisco with all the tech companies in the area. Super comfy looking weather
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Here's a list of various rankings and measurements of various states

Enjoy
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>>57927868
>aren't cucks
>full of Mexicans
Yeah OK. Texas will be a blue state by ~2040 if things keep going the way they are. The big cities in Texas already vote Democrat.
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>>57925599
Miami resident here, it's fucking aids, filled with degenerate Cubans (I'm Cuban) who pretend they're still in Cuba and mope around and don't work
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Iowa
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I enjoy life in upstate New York. Gun laws are really shitty though. Might move to Vermont or Maine for that.

Michigan is also really nice, as is Idaho and Utah. California is really, really ass. They need to split it in two so the northern can actually be a cozy place to live.
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I would move to hawaii, alaska or montana.
Any state with low coal miner and taco americans
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>>57928465

Most of those living there, like those posting under the US flag on /int/, are self-hating whites, and progressive millennials of the following type:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw
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>>57929317

at least there's no income tax.
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>Miami
>Florida at all
If you like white trash, ghetto black people, and retarded Cubans. Sure.
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Minnesota without a doubt
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>>57929464
Gonna second this. Don't live in Florida. Or anywhere in the South other than Texas. Just stay in the North and avoid communist States.
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Would live in New Orleans desu.
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>>57929381
You're a retard. Most Americans on here support Trump or at the very least hate Sanders and Hillary. You're allowed to see a diversity of opinions on here from Americans because we actually have freedom, unlike your shithole.
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>>57929627
Enjoy getting /BLACKED/
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>>57929705
I'm black, m8.
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How is Colorado?
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I live in NYC and it is quite terrible.

If you aren't an Ivy graduate who is making mad bucks from engineering or whatever, you're gonna be begging for cash on the street.

Fuck this city.
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>>57929803
Its flyover:the state.
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>>57929381
>>57929060
Hmmm well but comfy weather tho :3
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i wouldn't say no to a job in vermont
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>>57929375
Can see those Pure Michigan ads are paying dividends building up our soft power ayyy

But the answer is subjective based on your lifestyle preference. Most places aren't that different tho. America is very homogenous imo.
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>>57929803
Basically DUDE WEED and yuppies. It isn't a bad place to live at all. iirc theyre the least fat state in the nation.
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>>57928090
Austin is probably the best city for tech related jobs, but it's practically not even Texas since a whole bunch of commiefornians moved there.
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If I can only afford one property, probably Colorado Springs. If I can afford multiple properties, probably Denver with a second place to rent out and register my cars at in Colorado Springs. This is assuming that I want to live centrally. I think Lincoln NE is the place where all corners of the lower 48 (Seattle, San Diego, Miami, Boston) are the most similar distances away, but no one wants to live in fucking Lincoln, and the Colorado Front Range is the closest region that really draws my attention, both in terms of life quality and wealth and in terms of surroundings and activities. There are a few alternatives if I ever realize that a central location isn't as important as I think it is, but I'd have to weigh them up carefully before making a decision.
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>>57929858
you clearly don't know anything about colorado
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>>57929912
does the term "yuppie" have a negative connotation?
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>>57929803
I have been to 12 US states and Colorado was the best one. Nice climate. Mountains. Weed. White people. What more can you ask for?
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>>57929912
i like their mountains and denver seems like a cool town
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>>57929970
Kinda sorta. It depends on the context, it's mostly used to describe over optimistic young people. https://youtu.be/pen1SgiIPt8
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>>57929894
It's just nice. Has some decent sized cities, lakes and nature, you can own guns with little to no restrictions, you can smoke weed in parts of Michigan and Internet connectivity is pretty nice


Only downside is some black people and the roads are shit. I miss skiing though when I lived in Idaho.
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Used to live with my uncle in Bellevue (in Washington), it was a very nice city.
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>>57929843

>mad bucks from engineering

no. the bucks are in finance, law, or medicine. and this is coming from a software engineer
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>>57930036
i thought it meant young people heavily focused on their jobs
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>>57930099
>software engineer
>engineer
lmao 2bh
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>>57930047
Skiing is terrifying. You could hit a tree at any moment and end up like Liam Neeson's wife or Michael Schumacher.
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>>57930107
That too. They're focused on their jobs because they're optimistic about it.
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>>57930107
>>57930196
I thought yippie meant young rich businessman.
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>>57930173
It's actually awesome. I worked as a ski instructor for a local resort in Idaho for two years as a teenager in high school. Was good money, but also got a season pass and everything.

Anyways we (instructors) had this app on our phone that would measure speed, airtime, etc all based on GPS. We ended up setting like speed records. I hit 55mph, other instructors were hitting mid 70s. Shit was awesome. It really is a great time. I love skiing.
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>>57930196
i can't see why would that be a negative thing, since they are happy and well-off
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>>57930140

I agree with you. But software engineers make more than "real" engineers so you just proved my point even more.
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>>57930390
70 mph on skis Jesus Christ.
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>>57930421
It's a negative thing because they're fucking full of themselves and think they can trump the world just because they've gotten a business degree and moved to New York City.
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>>57930449
You mean real engineers.
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>>57929860
It's only comfy if you can appreciate rain and/or overcast skies for 3/4th of the year
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>>57930530

Yes. We're getting off track here, hitler
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>>57930553
I can, I'm from a place as sunny as Anchorage after all. Choosing the ideal place in the US is a terrible task for climate alone because most of them are either too warm in the winter, too cold in the winter, too dry in general, too humid in general or too hot in the summer. Seattle and Boston are the places that come closest to German climate, and even Boston is a stretch.
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>>57930449
so you're saying jobs that require professional school pay more money than jobs that don't require it? that's incredible, you should write a book on your findings.
t. someone who makes more money than you
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is there any comfy small towns in america? :3

>>57930553
sign me up senpai im suck of getting a tan everyday now

>>57930658
San Francisco sounds pretty based, it's like autumn all year round, or so I heard :<
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>>57930455
its great. we used skis called "twin tips" where it's basically where only two points on the ski actually touch the ground. Anyways the tips of your skis vibrate like crazy, they're jumping around and stuff. You basically just have to focus on what's in front of you and don't look down cause you'll freak out.

wish I had my old account to login and see the records. the app is called "alpine replay" btw.

but yeah i really miss skiing. lived in michigan for a year and now it's my second year in upstate new york and it's definitely one of my favorite things about the west.
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>southern california
>focuses on LA
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>>57929843
t. target employee
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>>57930762

I seriously doubt you make more than me bud. But no, I never said that, all I said was that the big bucks in NYC are not in engineering.
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>>57930770
Yeah but then you're stuck in California administrations. I'm not going to move away from Germany just to live in one of the most bureaucratic, expensive, gun hating, car hating, freedom hating states in the union.
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I think Boston is one of the best cities of the USA. I appreciate any kind of opinion regarding this, I've never been there but my friends went and loved it
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>>57930658
True, Europe is farther north than the US so it comes as no surprise you get so little sun. We also get more continental weather than you guys considering how huge the North American landmass is.

There are places in Minnesota that are pretty highly similar to Germany. That probably explains why so many German immigrants moved there. There's a town called New Ulm there with a bunch of German heritage. They even have a christian college there named after Martin Luther.
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>>57931217
Minnesota is ass cold, are you trying to fucking kill me?
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>>57925599
Canada
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>>57931320
Annexation when?
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>>57931248
If you're white then you can handle it :^)
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>>57931248
Turk detected
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>>57931388
>>57931464
Every white ain't automatically Svalbardian. You know what the average winter temperatures are like here? 38F during the day, 28F at night.
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>>57931576
What the fug

38F in the winter is almost t shirt weather. It got down to -10F quite often this past winter. It even went down to -20F a few times the winter before that, and that's only in Ohio.
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>>57931576
I forgot to add that you can surely adapt to it. The greatest thing about being white is being able to adapt.
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>>57932018
You mean being able to wear thick jackets and drive cars with heaters. It's a workaround, but it's far from comfort.
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>>57932247
I've come to appreciate the cold. It feels kind of refreshing compared to the hot and sticky summers.
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>>57932498
There's "gee, I enjoy the cold for a change", and then there's "fucking hell, it's minus a dickton degrees and my balls are falling off" or "god fucking damn it, it's fucking april, why are the roads still fucking frozen over, it's been seven fucking months of this shit now!!!"
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>>57932735
True, and there's times where it gets so cold it actually burns. However, I would take that over 100F with ridiculous humidity
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>Sun = Great place to live in
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>>57932830
I presume short crisp winters and short crispy summers are the best, but there's no such place. In most of the US it's either cold for too long, hot for too long, or both for too long (god damn high altitude deserts and their 40F fluctuations between day and night).
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>>57927868
Florida not expensive, miami is expensive, everywhere else except miami is reasonable. The northwest corner of south carolina, georgia and north carolina is God country.
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>>57928465
Suicide capital of the US, cuz it fliiping rains all the time
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North East is hands down the best followed by the flyovers
South East is hands down the worst closely followed by the South West

Ive lived in Georgia, North California, and Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania was by far the best of the three
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boston is a good place to make money?
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>>57929531
>Just stay in the North and avoid communist States
Thats impossible ... Lived in Mass for twenty years ... moved to florida, would not go back to Mass for any money in the world, bunch of overtaxing puritanical kiss asses. Just stay away from Miami or Orlando and you can experience the real state.
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>>57932931
That's what you get with continental weather. It makes the US similar to Russia in a lot of ways.
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>>57929464
>>57929531
I want reddit to leave
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>>57933575
>Florida
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>>57933618
>le ebin leddit/twitter meme that started in 2013
You're on the wrong website, cockroach
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>>57929275
you have to realize that the most Mexicans here can comprehend the necessity of Texas conservative values and assimilate well unless they're stuck in the barrio
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>>57930658
Clemson, S.C.
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>>57933739
>florida
I want Floridians to leave
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>>57931158
Nice to visit, do NOT live there, tax you to death, expensive for homes, traffic to die, shootings, drugs etc
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>>57933832
The summer temperatures seem juuuuuuust bearable, but knowing where it lies I'm guessing it's a sweatbox.
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>>57933865
What state are you from?

Let me guess, a cultureless soulless shithole like bumfuck Ohio or a third world dixie state
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>>57925599
California is the best place to live in the world.
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>>57933977
Whatever it is, I'm fairly certain it's not a cuban mosquito retiree drug zombie infested swamp.
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>>57933998
if your a gay nigger furkin from outerspace
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>>57929492
top rude
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>>57932931
Tasmania actually has the best climate in the world, IMO
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>>57934248
Yeah, and dem roads. But it's also the ass end of nowhere and they all drive on the wrong side.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95MhCNKf7CA
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>>57933261
Fuck you and your yankee ways
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>>57925599
What is Tristate?
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>>57934059
Florida is none of those things either.

Nice proxy though, filthy redneck
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>>57928429
THIS
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>>57927868

Quit being a shill, Texans are literally assblasted faggots.

OP, if you can't handle the heat in Miami, I don't recommend you go to LA either. A nice city for you would probably be Chicago.
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>>57933944
The mountains provide an altitude which tempers that, as you progress into the appalachians the climate gets very enjoyable, and those same mountains provide a shield from the arctic blast of Canada which causes the tornadoes in LA, OK, and TN
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>>57925599
North east USA is best whether for rural or city.
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>>57930099
>medicine
Going to school 10 years after specialization school and becoming half a million in debt isn't worth it anymore. You're spending the prime of your life studying your ass off- the funny part is they need doctors pretty badly right now- so the field isn't as competitive and yet it's more expensive and time consuming than ever to get in.

T. Med student
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>>57934291
Freshest water in the world, straight from Antartica, and this ...
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>>57925599
San Francisco, no other choices really. Well, maybe NYC is viable.

t. Software Engineer with 8 years of experience, full stack web.
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>>57934389
Why do your people keep moving here?

Let us be superior and assblasted in peace.
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>>57934389
There a reason its called Chiraq and the murder capital of the US
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>>57925599
Tristate heavily depends on the area
Miami is nice but I don't have solid knowledge of how it is to live there
SoCal is shit and meme

I live in the Tristate btw, Hudson Valley NY portion because NJ, CT, and Long Island are all trash
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>>57929145
Big thanks m8. Very useful pic.
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>>57934315
OP's pic is the NY tristate area which includes NY, NJ, and Connecticut.
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>>57925599
riddle me this ameriblobs
>good gunlaws
>big forests
>cold winters
what state?
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>>57932018
This kinda
>Be high schooler in northwest Ohio
>Have black friend who's pretty chill
>he's from Georgia, although he stayed the past couple years in Ohio
>Motherfucker wears hoodies and is shivering at 40F while I laugh away in a flannel and shorts.
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>>57934775
alaska probably
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>>57934732
The valley is very nice, so UN new york
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>>57934775
Alaska.

It's practically Russia.
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>>57934826
>>57934890
what about mainland
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Is the Midwest paradise or has /pol/ been memeing on me?
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>>57934775
Minnesota, Montana, parts of Washington state, Alaska, hell, Canada has some areas that no human has walked on
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>>57929950
Don't want to live in Lincoln? Just live in Omaha then, you nigger. Literally the only relevant city in that shithole of a state. We never should have let them go.
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>>57934775
Pretty much any state near either of the mountain ranges that doesn't vote Democratic.

So not the Western side of the Rockies, and nothing between Pennsylvania. and New Hampshire. Really just look at the NRA's state rankings and stick to the northern states.
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>>57935204
Even pretending that Omaha isn't meth riddled, you'd still be stuck in fucking Nebraska.
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>>57935130
Upstate michigan, they call themselves "yoopers"
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>>57935096

hope you like faggots because that is all in san frangaysco
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>>57934315
3 states are converge towards NYC, New York (the state NYC is actually in) New Jersey (Shitty state with a massive inferiority complex towards just NYC) and Conneticut (the suburb state)
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>>57933977
lel
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>>57935308
meant for >>57934587
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>>57934877
>UN New York
Is this an abbreviation for something or are you trying to say un-new york

Because the latter is inccorect, NY =/= NYC
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>>57931576
Dat gulf stream
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>>57935096
The NRA may have some state ranking, but when you get out into the "rural" areas, like wayout, they kind of have their own laws out there. Make friends with the local sheriff or constable and all is good, they will make you an honorary "militia" member or deputy
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>>57935130
Depends on what part of the midwest.

Midwest has many of the most crime ridden shithole cities in the country, like Afghanistan level murder rate

Then there's the rural areas which are very white, but really have no actual sense of community beyond "muh jebus" so I'm not sure how a yuro would like it
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>>57935308
>>57935384
Why should I like them? I just neutral about them.
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>>57935395
apologies, so un-nyc
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New Hampshire by far
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>>57929349
dont think so
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>>57929972
The entire north west is very comfy. I was born and live in Texas, but outside of job opportunities and tornadoes, there is nothing special about this state. I would much rather live in Colorado or Washington.
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>>57932931
West coast maybe, Oregon and Washington, that's if you can stand living with a bunch of braindead libtards.
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>>57934623

That's really just the ghetto's mainly. Most of Chicago is super nice. Also, it's only called Chiraq because some retard decided it sounded cool and wanted to make a movie. Mostly diehard Southsiders and yuppie faggots who think they're hard call it Chiraq.
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>>57935422
Shows a graphic that clearly shows the middle and eastern parts of america as crime ridden shitholes
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I live in central Florida

It's shit all year desu, Gulf Coast is amazing in the fall and late summer months tho
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>>57935130
/pol/ is autistic and knows very little about things in reality.

What interests you about the Midwest?

>>57935422
>like Afghanistan level murder rates
Chicago and Detroit aren't the only cities in the Midwest numbnuts.
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>>57935422
Whats wrong with jebus ? We all cant be jews or Ashkenazi's
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>>57935729
Who could forget such gems like Saint Louis, Missouri and Gary, Indiana
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>>57934610

t. jose
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>>57926979

> le contrarian pov

its like fatties want to defy gravity but you cant because youre so fat

also, orlando t bh or maybe somewhere in alaska
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>>57935779
St. Louis is a dump, not a city, and nobody gives a shit about Gary.
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>>57935633
Pot smoker detected
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>>57935779

>pass through gary indiana
>smells like hell
>looks like hell
>is hell
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>>57935422
>Anchorape
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>>57935851
Oh alright then, how about Flint or Cleveland?

Face it, the midwest has a ton of shitty cities with crumbling infrastructure. It's more honest to say those are representative than the unpopulated Upper Peninsula
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>>57935729
The wide plains look pretty cool, I just like the whole prairie vibe in general I guess. I'd love to just push my car to the limit on one of those highways. Citywise, the Twin Cities look surprisingly cozy for an urban area of that size.

I'd also be interested to see what American attempts to make German sausage, beer etc. resulted in and the Midwest seems to be the place for this.
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>>57935698
Its the next city to go bankrupt, Detroit ver.2, probably going to take the whole state down with it too. Like NJ where the richest man just decided to leave for FLORIDA and now the states is wondering where all their tax money is going to come from ...
http://time.com/money/4283499/new-jersey-state-taxes-david-tepper/
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>>57935698
>o-only h-half our city is a warzone
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>>57936032
Oh I get it
>Rust belt = Midwest
You know nothing or just don't care, stop trying to spread shitty memes and make people hate us.

>>57936063
Beer is American, wurst isn't too varied, not to the extent it is in Germany.

We do have German immigrants who make kuchen and kolaches, at least here in Western SD. Don't speed though, the interstates aren't the Autobahn, and the sheriffs WILL hit you for thinking it is.
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>>57936168

It's not even half the city. If you're dumb enough to go to the deep end of the south or west side, you deserve to be shot.
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>>57936099

No, it isn't. Here's an informative article on the subject.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/columnists/ct-harris-chicago-junk-0621-biz-20150619-column.html
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>>57935698
Super Nice, yeah, like libya light
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>>57936289
Looks more than half to me

pretty embarrassing desu
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>>57925599
Massachusetts
Massachusetts
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>>57936524
>massivejewshits
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>>57936479

>assault related homide
>stabbing-related homide

Nice graph
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>>57936289
YOU deserve to be shot, and you fuck sticks brought Obama in as a senator and got him elected as President, the whole city should be nuked to exterminate the disease, including his damn library
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>>57934587
>San Francisco
Portnov said that most apartment there rot and smells like fish
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>>57936633

Lol, stay mad pleb.
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none.
foreigners are being massacred in the whole country on a daily basis.
media has been covering this up for obvious reasons.
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>>57936760
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>>57936420
Here is a nice informative article for you
https://www.illinoispolicy.org/illinois-has-lowest-credit-rating-of-all-50-states/
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>>57936920

>has an A- credit rating
>article is literally 3 paragraphs

/pol/ tier.
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>>57934547

I would give my left nut to give up my software career and have a seat in a med school. Consider yourself lucky, bro
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>>57936420
Chicago has a rating of BBB- , greece has a rating of CCC
Chicago lottery winners getting paid with IOU's

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-lottery-lawsuit-met-20150909-story.html

https://www.moodys.com/credit-ratings/Chicago-City-of-IL-credit-rating-171610

outlook looks negative, see a theme here?
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>>57937059
ya, its rough since you probably cant read or hold your attention for that long, and then to elect Rahm Emanuel as your mayor, thats rich ... good luck, you are going to need it
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Hey ameribros. I've been watching a documentary about NYC, about the way it was in the 70s and 80s, an overcrowded, dirty, sleazy, dangerous shithole, a true sodom and gommorah .

What is todays equivalent of that in USA?
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>>57937211
The state was sued so they stopped that
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>>57937459
Definitely not NYC anymore
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>>57937459

Well Chicago is an absolute shithole right now. Some people call it "Chiraq" after Iraq because of how much murder goes on there
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>>57937594
Yes but where is all the sex drugs and rocknroll?
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>>57937211

Yes, don't get me wrong I'm not saying that Chicago is some heaven or anything. However, despite the bad rap it gets, it's not anything like a hellhole. Also, with the end of the recession, Chicago is coming back and it's on the upswing. In the article you posted about the lottery, they are literally waiting for congress to be back in session to get the law passed, giving the comptroller authority to right the checks. It says in the article that they have the money, but there are current legal problems in authorizing the checks.

Comparing it to Detroit, Afghanistan, and Libya is seriously just retarded.
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>>57937635

wish i knew
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>>57937635

If you want sex, drugs, and rock and roll visit literally any big city in America.
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>>57937594
Yeah you've never been there
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>>57936099
>Chicago is Detroit ver.2
I don't think you understand why Detroit is shit at all.
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>>57937459
Now its gomorrah and sodom
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>>57935336
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>>57937860
I don't know, it looks like a really gay place desu. All the lame chick flicks and gay ass kids movies are set in NYC.
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>>57937777
Really ... maybe because of the unionized and dominating industry that was the Big 3 that left them floating down a river with a lead paddle. It is a typical example of large northern cities that will all succumb to the debt monsters lurking in their closets. Humans were not meant to live so close to each other
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>>57938039
americans care more about NYC than they do DC, its the ultimate meme city
not to mention the jews (the jews)
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>>57935422
Lel butthurt
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>>57938161
And Chicago isn't reliant on one industry
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>>57938039
it will never be Skopje or Rome or Berlin or Prague or Moscow , NYC is like a movie set, waiting for the cardboard buildings to topple over again.
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>>57938161

Detroit fell because it only relied on the auto industry. Gary fell when US Steel was outsourced to China. Chicago has no one major dominating industry, no one sector takes up more than 14% of the workforce.

Do you even know anything about economics, or are you just spouting shit out your ass?
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>>57938377
God you sound retarded
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>>57938367
Ya, I get your point, but that fact does not override the fact that you are so deep in debt that the city is approaching the Greece meme in the USA. Illinois is approaching Puerto Rico status and its thanks to your lucrative Unions and Pensions and City and State Governments fault , and you keep electing the same kind of feces over and over.
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>>57934389
>Chicongo
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>>57938647

>literal burger tier
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>>57938435
>o you even know anything about economics, or are you just spouting shit out your ass?
You should be asking this question to your elected officials, because according to moodys, finch and every other rating agency, the city and state are one step closer to junk bond status. Now I know why Obama spent the US into the greatest debt we have ever seen, thanks illinois.
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>>57938466
Says the person who has never been out of burgerland, the world does not end in the USA
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>>57938860

>Picking up the mess left by your predecessors

Also, Illinois isn't going into junk bond status. You literally sound like some ass blasted countryboy. You gonna vote Trump to make America Great Again?
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>>57929492
this.

Minnesota is comfy
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>>57938954
Yeah no you just sound jaded as fuck. Skopje got fucked by earthquake and is filed with ugly ass buildings since 60s
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>>57939084
Now you are Nostradamus, i guess uncle obama is going to fix that also ... and you gonna vote for Shrillery , great. Just what this country needs.
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>>57939216
>ugly ass buildings since 60s
Its called architecture, maybe you should study it along with economy, at least they have a culture that has survived centuries
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>>57939447
Literally what. They are Bulgarians that were brainwashed by serbs. They have culture cringe more than anything
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>>57939447
And commie blocks will never be as good as skyscrapers
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>>57928090

Anything STEM related, especially technology, has GREAT prospects in Texas.

Come to the Dallas/Fort Worth Area, you'll definitely find a great job, plus nice people and beautiful climate.

Praat jou afrikaans?
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>>57939733
A R C H I T E C T U R E
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>>57939733
I hope one day you will overcome your blindness
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>>57940196
Nice pillar looks like it is made of stucco

>>57940417
Kek only blind one here is you
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>living anywhere but the bay

I feel bad for you
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>>57939985
It is "Praat jij Afrikaans"? " jou" means your, my burgerfriend:)
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>>57925599
Connecticut was pretty nice when I was there
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west coast or east coast or midwest?

who has the cheapest rent? My state sucks cock
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>>57946333
Midwest definitely.
>>57938377
Rude desu.
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