How can we help Ukraine?
>>56738304
Remove Russians
Also friendly reminder that Russia is just as bad as ISIS, and they want you to vote for far right, Eurosceptic parties because of the terrorist attacks.
The best Ukraine policy is helping them to get a functioning state, which above all means helping them getting rid of corruption. Incidentally a good Ukraine policy is also the best Russia policy. If Ukraine become a success, Russians will ask themselves why they can't when Ukrainians can. This would delegitimize the Putin regime more effectively than any shipment of weapons or tough talk could. It would also put Russia back on the track of democracy and orientation towards the West. Which, realistically, is their only strategic option. They can't be happy being China's junior partner forever.
>>56738304
Weaken Russian influence as much as possible, keep the sanctions, block the Nord Stream, undermine their involvment in Syria.
>>56738304
>Can't contain the Ukraine
Lol, they can barely contain themselves.
Their government is so corrupt, and the nation is so culturally/technologically backward, they make a good amount of African nations look like developed jewels of civilization.
If you really want to help 'Ukraine' break it up between the Poles and Russians.
>>56742846
>block the Nord Stream, undermine their involvment in Syria
how do these things help Ukraine?
>>56738304
by removing it, it's nothing but agony
>>56738304
Give them to Poland.
>>56738304
We don't.
>>56743079
No thanks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyCKkbc4_S0
They deserve to die after they betrayed us.
>>56738304
Didn't you already help Ukraine, burgerclap?
Don't see how you can help them even more to be honest.
>>56742999
Every move weakening Russia is good for Ukraine (and also every other country in Eastern Europe).
>>56743344
>(and also every other country in Eastern Europe).
Oh yeah, it's so very good to have armed Ukraine next to our border.
Are you fucking ill?
>>56743154
Take Lwov at least.
No future for ukraine, population is deceasing.
from 1992 to 2016 they lost 10 millions of people. (52-42)
(Probably putin killed them all !!!)
>>56743344
You know HALF of all investments came from "evil" russia in 2015. Where would they find new investors?
The average wage is literally lower than in India now, but nobody opens up mobile phone factories there
This girl is ukrainian and she cries because of her heritage
we steal their women
they're doing fine themselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugiMtE0mn-k
>>56738304
Nuke it. And Russia. And then Ukraine again.
>>56743344
Not necessarily. Russia can always up the ante and Putin is willing to do so. Your proposals would do nothing to help Ukraine.
>>56743704
>nuking Russia
I don't think Lukashenko's secret police will appreciate your post.
Ukraine = hybrid of Russians and Poles we must take back 50/50 the territory
>>56743684
czy to ten słynny anon-długowłosy fetysz
>>56743765
What is that secret police meme, KGB is not secret, you always know when they're comming.
>>56743378
>Oh yeah, it's so very good to have armed Ukraine next to our border
Yeah I can totally see Ukraine being dangerous to us, now that they turned their back on Russia and want to be part of West. It makes a lot of sense.
>>56743579
>You know HALF of all investments came from "evil" russia in 2015
Well, that happens when you are economically conquered by other nation. We were also "inextricably linked" to Russian economy before 1989.
>The average wage is literally lower than in India now
False.
GDP per capita:
>Ukraine: $7,989
>India: $6,209
It's not like their economy is going to skyrocket instantly, but cuting off the Russian parasite is a good beginning.
>>56743702
are they beating up commies?
>>56743154
Damned hohols.
>>56743835
da
>>56743579
Russians really are just pure evil. First they do everything to kick other people to the curb and then have the gall to start moralising about how no one else is helping them get up.
Fuck you, enjoy your collapsing economy ryssä.
>>56743920
fuggg
>>56743154
I didn't ask for these feels.
>>56743447
>Take Lwov at least.
It's hohol infested and Poland is only a lapdog now.
We can't just do shit on our own.
>>56743857
Russian parasite is literally the biggest trade partner.
Biggest trade partner germany or biggest trade partner russia? First sounds better but what can they to reach it?
>>56743937
> kick other people to the curb
How did we kick them before 2014?
>>56743857
>Russia
>parasiting on Ukraine
Well, that's a new one.
You know, they still haven't payed for the gas they stole that was transferred to you through their territory.
>>56743871
Nothing valuable loss. Just fucking look at that cuckoldry.
>>56743991
That's slavic brotherhood for you.
German soldiers returning from Stalingrad after seeing what Ukrainians did, left some old weapons for Poles so they could defend themselves from Ukrainian animals.
Not even Germans could stand such sight. Germans, the people that killed civilians and raped women, couldn't stand a sight of Ukrainian doing.
Ukrainians killed infants, pregnant women, children, slaughtered everyone they could in brutal ways.
Is this someone we should help? Are they our brothers? Our goverment is fucking retarded for taking Ukrainians here to Poland.
They did everything to destroy us and yet we give them shelter.
>>56744084
translate hohol?
>>56744084
She is right. Ukraine is not a country.
>>56744084
>watching videos from a Azov channel
Yesterday I made a thread saying I felt bad for you I take that back.
>>56744140
Ukraine is a result of sovietization and communization
Desovetization is
1,2,3,4,5 to russia
5,6 to poland
7,8 to romania
9 to hungary
crimea to russia
>>56744140
You like it.
>>56744235
Thx bro
>>56744235
>>56744084
>giving ANYTHING to Romania rather than nice mushroom clouds
Into the ATO she goes.
>>56738304
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxSfnrh1l8Y
Death to Ukraine.
>>56744399
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toGLE_1fGbM
>>56744356
proof from odnoklassniki not mentioned it
>>56738304
i agree. its the only way.
if there was a gathering to welcome Ukrainian refugees i'd be the first in line.
>>56744442
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr_MMd7kzQc
>>56744173
A FUCKING LEAF
how is life in canada, Ivan serGAYevich?
>>56744479
stupid i meant to quote this guy.
>>56743684
>>56744529
better than here you pizdauskas
>>56744529
A FUCKING POTATO
>>56744642
>>56744581
a whole company of slavshits already here. As I see even "austrian" dude feeling nostalgic for his great grandfathers homeland ;)
>>56744529
Much better than where you are ;^^^)
>>56744721
Who are you guys going to ally with when US quits NATO?
Regional potato farmer alliance?
:^)
>>56743579
>20% population decrease in two decades
How do you even manage to fuck up this hard?
>>56744894
No future for russia, population is deceasing.
from 1992 to 2016 they lost 10 millions of people. (52-42)
(Probably yarosh killed them all !!!)
>>56743344
You know HALF of all investments came from "evil" china in 2015. Where would they find new investors?
The average wage is literally lower than in gabon now, but nobody opens up mobile phone factories there
This girl is russian and she cries because of her heritage
Now... belive me. Every word.
>>56745341
why still in ukraine instead of Polan?
>>56745420
Why should I?
>>56745545
upgrade of living standards youj are anyway a Pole or a Russian already
>>56744084
Am I dumb like this?
>>56745594
>>56744513
>>56744399
>>56743802
>>56743154
On behalf of all Poles, I'd like to apologise for these braindead idiots, brainwashed by Russian propaganda.
Most of rational Poles realise that despite of our historical quarrels, us and Ukrainians share more common goals than differences, and most importantly, common enemy: Russia, who always tried to enslave us both. Stop falling for Ivan's divide & conquer tactics.
>inb4 Ukrainian in Poland
Zacznijcie rozumowac w kategoriach realpolitik zamiast wymachiwac szabelką i bóldupic o muh Wołyń, cebulaki.
>>56745420
fuck ukraine ! dont come to poland !!! get the fuck out !!!! Bandera sperm !!!! FUCK THEM.
>>56745863
Rosja wrogiem to chyba jedynie twoim cebulaku wschodni z Polszy B
>>56745863
Kill yourself u*rainian faggot
>>56745971
>Rosja nie wrogiem
t. synalek UBeka
>>56746084
>Ukraina nie jest wrogiem
Ty jebany kretynie.
>>56746055
Spierdalaj do Moskwy, Iwan.
>>56745863
>realpolitik
>włażenie w dupę ukraińcom, wysyłanie im w chuj pieniędzy i bezsensowne machanie szabelką w stronę rosji w zamian za marsze na czesc bandery
o kurwa anon jak kisne
>>56746123
>Ukraina jest wrogiem
Tak kurwa, z powodu garstki nacjonalistów równie reprezentatywnych co nasz ONR i bez reprezentacji w parlamencie, co nie Seba?
>>56738304
Have you tried actually give it arms and money, hello?
>>56746125
Ty chyba naprawdę jestes pierdolnięty albo trollujesz.
98% ukraińcow zaciągalo się do jednostek SS a jak nie mogli, to szli do Banderowców. Ukraińscy księżulkowie namawiali ukraińców do mordowania polskich dzieci, kobiet. Nawet kurwa kobiety w ciąży, a ty mi teraz pierdolisz, że Ukraina nie jest wrogiem?
Ty pierdolona lewacka pizdo z Warszawy.
>>56746185
>garstki
O kurwa jaki zjeb. Przestań nęcić na taki temat, pizdo. Bo nieładnie tak.
Ukraińcy to Ruscy tamto jeden chuj ci sami ludzie tylko inny język przynajmniej możemy odrobić robotinków za tych co spierdolili na zachód
>>56746169
>włażenie w dupę ukraińcom, wysyłanie im w chuj pieniędzy
A kto powiedział o włażeniu w dupę i wysyłaniu pieniędzy?
Wystarczy podsycac u nich antyrosyjskie nastroje i utrzymywac jako bufor w przypadku gdyby Wołodia próbował odnowic Imperium. Kiedy obiorą już w pełni kurs prozachodni - władowac się do nich z naszym kapitałem i skolonizowac, jak Niemcy nas w 1990.
Zresztą to JUŻ się dzieje, przecież oni rozważają Barcelowicza na premiera. Kek.
>>56746294
No to kurwa mów, że genocajd ukraincow a nie kurwa gadasz, że nie nasi wrogowie.
>>56743943
Don't worry, Merkel sees through Putin's tactics. Which is why he is attacking her via increasing the refugee flows und propaganda in Germany. Let's hope she stays in power. It won't be a quick or easy fight, but we'll win it. Together.
Anyone know how the current political climate is in Ukraine? Is it just more of the same corrupted garbage?
I've heard civil war has calmed down slightly, but that's it.
>>56746219
>98% ukraińcow zaciągalo się do jednostek SS
Tak kurwa debilu, tak samo jak nasi "bracia" Węgrzy. Bo podobnie jak nasi "bracia" Węgrzy, uznawali Niemców za sojusznika.
>Ukraińscy księżulkowie namawiali ukraińców do mordowania polskich dzieci, kobiet. Nawet kurwa kobiety w ciąży, a ty mi teraz pierdolisz, że Ukraina nie jest wrogiem?
Ukraińcy z GALICJI ZACHODNIEJ, która stanowi 15% terytorium Ukrainy i ci, co mieli zatargi z Polakami. Bo nie wmawiaj sobie, że my także wobec nich bylismy swięci przez lata polonizacji, marginalizacji w XIX wieku i sprzedania Petluri kacapom. Ukraińcy centralini i ze wschodu - ci najbardziej zagrożeni przez Putina - NIGDY nie żywili do nas wrogosci.
Ty piedolony SBecki pomiocie.
>>56738304
Nohow. Smart people already left this """""country""""", others can just be slaves of poland.
>>56746466
Dobra już wypierdalaj brudna kurwo ukraińska.
>>56746329
>genocajd
Ekonomiczna kolonizacja i powolna odbudowa Rzeczpospolitej. W obliczu upadku Zachodu i ekonomicznych problemów Rosji, czas bysmy powrócili do pozycji lokalnego lidera, wciągali Ukrainę i Białorus w naszą strefę wpływów.
A nie kurwa jak łyse półmózgi majaczyc o sojuszu z Rosją i aneksji Ukrainy.
Po co majaczyc o aneksji, skoro mozemy miec ją całą bez żadnego wystrzału, pokazując wała Putinowi?
>>56746389
mehmet pls.
Make them stop all business with Russia ::DDD
>>56746454
Same corrupted garbage. Nuland noticed Poroshenko to change situation , or they stop funding us.
>>56746264
Zobacz >>56746466
Nie próbuj kurwa wmawiac że Ukraińcy centralni i wschodni kiedykolwiek byli do nas wrogo nastawieni.
>>56746513
Wracaj na 2ch.ru pisac w cyrylicy ze swoimi smierdzącymi małpoludami.
>>56738304
>>56738559
>>56743937
>>56745341
>>56746596
Is there any hope for things improving or do you think things will just go back to the same old?
Seems every ten years there's massive infighting in Ukraine that ends with someone corrupted being replaced with someone else corrupted.
>>56746564
chuja tam, przyjdzie pan Soros z panią Merkel i zrobią sobie kolejną lewacką kolonię
a jak na bliskim wschodzie zrobi się za gorąco to wrzucą tam Żydów i tyle będzie z ebińskiej Rzeczpospolitej
>>56746639
Ukraińcy wschodni to jest mem kurwa, przecież tam sami Rosjanie siedzą
>>56744894
2 million are Crimea, 7 million are People's republics. So nothing of value was lost
>>56746763
>Seems every ten years there's massive infighting in Ukraine that ends with someone corrupted being replaced with someone else corrupted.
STUPID IVAN GO BACK TO RUSHKA!!1
>>56746834
Don't be cute, Vladimir. Or keep being cute, I don't mind.
>>56746763
Mate, they were on their own for 20 years and nothing have changed. Do you really think that this is because of evil russia? They are just shit-tier slavs.
>>56746777
>chuja tam, przyjdzie pan Soros z panią Merkel i zrobią sobie kolejną lewacką kolonię
Już widzę jak Unia zachowuje swoje wpływy w przeciągu najbliższych 10 lat po wyjsciu UK i zalewu kozojebców, jak strasznie zawraca im głowę sprawa kolonizacji Ukrainy kiedy pożar ogarnia ich własny burdel. Plus PiS u władzy.
>Ukraińcy wschodni to jest mem kurwa, przecież tam sami Rosjanie siedzą
Moskale to siedzieli na Krymie, i dlatego Putin z taką łatwoscią go sobie odebrał - kolonizacja poprzez zalanie ludnoscią, tak samo jak kozojebcy robią to dzisiaj z Europą. Realna mniejszosc kacapska jest tylko w obwodzie ługańskim i donieckim - stąd toczące się tam walki.
Also, obczaj sobie mapę Austro-Węgier i porównaj jaki obszar zajmowałą Galicja Zachodnia, a jaki Wschodnia, która z Polską nie miała żadnego kontaktu.
>>56746940
I never mentioned Russia.
>>56747136
Whatever, nothing will change with or without russia.
>>56747136
And this was probably the only post about Ukraine that didn't mention Russia, was it?
>>56746826
But, that estimate is with People's Republics included, according to the wiki.
Something definitely went wrong for the country to lose it's populace at this ridiculous rate.
>>56746763
"Nadiya je"
Hope will be when 1990s politics finnaly leave. What a cunts. The best example is Poland - in 1990 they provide shocking reforms. Result you can see now,not the heaven on earth,but comfort place for living.
>>56747359
Real population of "People Republics". about a 2.5-3 mln in 2016.
>>56747285
Looks like there's a few in the thread, actually. But it's mostly people shit posting.
>>56747390
Some day then, I hope. But it looks like it won't be any time soon.
>>56747359
Nah, it were Russian occupants leaving glorious Ukraine. So nothing of value was lost.
>>56747390
And how will you remove 90s people? It's not just politics.
>>56738304
>this whole thread
>>56747359
>>56747390
>The best example is Poland - in 1990 they provide shocking reforms
Just like in Russia, kek
And fucken everywhere in post-ussr
But you see, result is much different
Airdropping them lots of food?
poor people are starving
>>56747594
> iron curtain policy
> this pic
lmao
>>56747734
So Ukrainians shoot down another plane and pretend it was the Russians?
>>56738559
But Ukraine's pro-EU government is already far-right?
>>56743344
>Every move weakening Russia is a move to a rich and diverse Western European version of Ukraine (and also every other country in Eastern Europe). Pic related, the new and improved Ukraine after it joins the EU.
>>56738304
You should donate every month
>ywn fight for your country
>>56749652
Can you see any shitkins in Eastern European countries of EU, dumbass?
Mudslimes only come to rich countries.
>>56750638
What happens when you're rich too?
