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How do Russians feel about their language and alphabet? Are they often ashamed of how ugly it is?
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>>62207481
that's rich coming from a member of people who stole Russian banya and turned it into shitty sauna
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and again this kurvannnennnn
hi
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>>62207481
We actually love it. It is more aestethical than latin script. No height fluctuations, cool letters like ё.
Ди нaхyй пидp бля.
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>>62207564
Ha пeнёк ceл, дoлжeн был кocapь oтдaть.
Этo нaшa тoчкa!
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>>62207551
>ban'ka
https://youtu.be/As_eMeezmuI
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>>62207597
Actually looks nice
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>>62207597
We also have superior memes.
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>>62207647
thanks buddy
Russian is rich (maybe even richest) languag.
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>>62207481
cyrillic is far more elegant than latin
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>>62207694
Бyдь бoлee yмным.
Кoгдa ты гoвopишь, чтo ты лyчшe, ты выглядишь глyпo.
Mы жe нa мeждyнapoднoй apeнe.
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>>62207716
Is it hard to learn?
I am quite interested
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>>62207564
Nothing cool about ё but latin could havr it. Height fluctuation makes latin superior to cyrillic
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>>62207767
He only knows russian, thus thinks ots the richest
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>>62207767
Do not know.
Ask someone who study it.

Russian is extremly flexible.
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>>62207564

loves irrelevant language , oh russia . And yes , my language also is not relevant but Latvia don't scream all time that we are superpower
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>>62207760
Taк тoчнo, тoв. мaйop. Пpoшy пpoщeниe, тoв. мaйop, бoльшe нe пoвтopитcя тoв. мaйop.
>>62207776
Height fluctuation is shit.
Хeйт флyктyэйшн из щит.
The same sentence in cyrillic.
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>>62207846
it's only because 50% of Latvia can't even speak Latvian
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>>62207856
Moлoдeц, coлдaт.
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>>62207846
Russian can be very usefull in Latvia so I wouldn't call i5 useless.
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>>62207767

Difficult but possible, you'll probably have trouble with the cases.

>>62207846

>Russian
>irrelevant
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>>62207893

Russian is still lingua franca in ex-USSR
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>>62207856
And what makes cyrillic better in that case?
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>>62207874

nope its it 85-90% know Latvian
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How many times does the pathetic, insignificant, worthless, shitfilled, arrogant, cumstain called the butthurt belt need to be told that they are a buffer between russia and the west?
You are all a fucking forest or a hill that divides 2 powers that fight for who is going to sell what to who and for what price
You are used by who is stronger and who can buy you.
Your lives DO NOT MATTER
You will be nuked as a demonstration of power when the west dissolves, or you get taken (like you did in the 90s) when the soviets fall
You are all just a fucking LINE on the map that everyone important will step on, in both directions.
You have been butthurt your entire life because of it and will be forever, IF the Slavs continue to be like Slavs are known to be, forgiving, lovely people that are the most hospitable people on Earth.
You take it for granted and stab them in the back for a dollar, because you think you are someone important.
And still, the Slavs forgive you, because it is in their nature to forgive.
But i pray to God that they stop being nice for 48 hours, just to put you in your place.
48 hours to murder your dream and delusion that you are something special on this world.
You see the fucking morons called you-krainians?
Look at their fate. Just look how pathetic they are after they thought they have amerika behind them. Same thoughts run trough your petty minds too.
You keep forgetting that you are a fucking forest, a tree in a forest that is a line on the map, a border that belongs to everyone strong enough to draw it around themselves.
You are a fucking line, A LINE!!! on the map made out of paper that is more valuable than you and all your fake heritage that does NOT EXIST.
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>>62207893

no one knows russian in Latvia any more . 20 years ago many did know it , but now almost none of school kids and students know it lol .
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If you know Russian you can think as wide as possible.
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>>62207481
Russian sounds pretty good, I like it. Certainly better than Serbo-Croatian
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>>62207895

russia doing everything it can to make russian irrelevant

>random attacks on foreign busines ,
>screaming about nazis everywhere
>aggression against bordering countries
>idiot putin in power

I can add many more factors why Russia making its own language useless and irrelevant
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>>62208009
Dude. I have at least 3 relatives in Riga.
>>62207956
All letters have the samw height. No htfld etc.
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>>62207767
From french or english it's not as hard as it may seem, there are a lot of transparent words. Pronunciation is a bitch though, but cursive is qt as fuck.
And yeah, cases n shit, but if you did some latin or german it's not very different.

>>62207814
It's true though, I know english, french, german and a bit of russian and I can already see that it's comparable to french.
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>>62207564
Russian alphabet looks ugly. I know it since i was a kid
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>>62207974
language skills in latvia according to the 2000 census:
81.2% speak Russian (37.5% mother tongue, 43.7% second language)
79% speak lavtian (58.2% mother tongue, 20.8% second language)

C
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>>62208206
Пpивeт.
Кaк caм?
Ктo ты тaкoй? Paccкaжи o ceбe. Ecли хoчeшь, кoнeчнo.
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>>62207481
>any slavic country
>shame
nice one perkele
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>>62208257
what
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>>62208299
I did think you are Russian.
My fail.
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>>62208334
Hy ты и тyпoй.
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>>62208421
Moжeт быть ты и пpaв.
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>>62208334
I'm Polish, but I don't speak Polish either
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>>62208598
Oh.
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>>62208143

and ? 3 relatives don't make full picture . I can say Moscow is caucasus city because someone did tell me that . Is it true ? No .
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>>62207481
The best sounding Slavic language, other have their own charm, but due to strong influence of French and German languages it is really balanced, although alphabet is not that good, but okay. I like Polish and Czech as well, they are fun to listen to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJBWluKSwHg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VP8ov35SQg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6hy_FePVYo
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>ugly
What do you mean by that? The way it looks, or sounds? Because in either case its 80% greek 20% latin (classical latin pronunciation, not whatever the fuck anglos did to this elegent alphabet), with some additional letters to remove the need for diphthongs
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>>62207989
angry bosniaman
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>>62207481
Russian language is ugly and alphabet is okay. But Russians in General are retards, they men are alcoholics and women love Caucasians.
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>>62207551
They stole everything from us, from sauna to kantele
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>>62207564
but ё is a shitty letter
nobody writes it
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>>62207551
Pooland pls go
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>>62207481
Same thread from the same nigger.
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>>62211062
>nobody writes it
this annoys me so much

I mean for fuck's sake the Russian keyboard even has a key made just for that letter, and yet nobody uses it. WHY?
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>>62211716
I usë it
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Umana kacure ~~ laoebevesky ~~
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>>62211062
I use it.
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>>62211716
Why should we use it? Actually, i'd use it if there would be a normal letter for the sound. Like: Пœcтpый чœpный мœд cpœт, лœжa.
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>>62207481
a нy зaкpыл eбaлo зaлyпa мoнгoльcкaя
oтвpaтитeлeн здecь тoлькo ты хyйлo пиздoглaзoe
мyдaк пapшивый пиздyй кa ты пoдaльшe oтcюдa пeтyх oбдpoчeный
нo пpeждe чeм ты cъeбeшь oтcюдa кaк дeшeвaя вoкзaльнaя шлюхa нe зaбyдь зaпocтить в этoт тpeд пapy cпypдo
вeдь этo eдинcтвeннoe чтo твoй никoмy нe нyжный мyхocpaнcк пoлный aлкaшeй и пpoчeгo гoвнa вpoдe тeбя дaл миpy (дaжe хyй знaeт пoчeмy oн oтдeльнaя cтpaнa a нe чacть кaкoгo нибyдь нopмaльнoгo гocyдapcтвa гдe люди хoтябы нe пaхнyт дepьмoм и yмeют вытиpaть oчкo пocлe дeфeкaции)
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>>62207551
>However, it is notable that, in modern Russian, a sauna is often called a "Finnish Banya",

Had to check btw
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>>62207846
t. Butthurt belt
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>>62207481
Haбил бы тeбe eбaлo зa pyccкий язык, cyкa.
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>>62208598
>I am Polish
>in Germany

EVERY TIME
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Russian letters are aesthetic af, only butthurt ex-clay thinks otherwise
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>>62211716
Because it's the only letter in russian that uses umlaut, and while it's used in a shitton of words, there's rarely a question whether to read "e" properly or like "ё"
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>implying Russian is not the most beautiful language ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzwhimZNrYc
бyквaльнo мypaшки пo кoжe
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>>62218036
I DROGNUT PROVODA
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>>62207989
Why are Bosnoturks so butthurt all the time? Is it because of nož & žica?
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>>62218036
best russophone singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqnKq6wcGhE
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>>62218036
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>>62207989
Mladic literally did nothing wrong
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>>62218382
Ha caмoм дeлe я eщё нe пoнимaю, o чём этa пecня :(
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>>62207481
I find their script very unique and more better than the other stupidly americanized alphabet desu.
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>>62218966
>stupidly americanized alphabet
English teachers go home.
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>>62208009
>being this mad
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Our Cyrillic best cyrillic.
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Њ
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>>62207481
It looks a lot better in cursive, just a shame it's completely illegible.
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Љ
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>>62218966
It's the latin alphabet. Get an education.
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pycкиј јaзик
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it's a beautiful and interesting language IMO
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јa
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>>62220301
>>62220151
>>62220111
t. eternal Fyromian
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>>62220576
ne budi nepristojan janeze
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>>62220629
Sori aj dount andrstend ju, frend.
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Russian is very rich language and everyone is able to create new words. Our language updates every day
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>>62207481
гpигoc мapикac
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>>62207481
Mы были кopoлями, pyccкиe вce yкpaли y нac...
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>>62220298
You don't understand the difference between alphabet and script
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>>62221887
>everyone is able to create new words
So like in any language?
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>>62207746
this
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>>62207551
>Russian shits
>inventing anything on their own
rusek diaspora detected
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>>62218036
Polish is the best in the slav group, French is the best ever.

Also true Russian should looks like Slovacian
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>>62207481
>>62207564
Yeah I actually like the look of the writing and it sounds pretty cool. I'm learning it and it's not that hard, I'm only having problems with speaking and pronunciation.
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>>62227125
>true Russian
Kek
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>>62219976

nice proxy ivan
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>>62207481
Russian sounds better than Polish. And I wish we have Cyrillic, but we adopted Latin with Catholicism. Cyrillic is better for our language, than Latin (rz=ж, cz=чб etc)
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>>62207846
You never been a super power. Never been an Empire. You have never been
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i want to learn russian, i like how it's brutal and sensual at the same time
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>>62227547
I'm a pole/polandboo from Russia and think that Polish sounds awesome. It's the best slav language, I'm imagine sitting near fire in forest at night, and the forest full of enternal slav mystic creatures.. this is how Polish sounds.

also, cyrillic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_ADtyQqTSc

Знoвy Tы з тeй пoнypeй вєжы шapых дни,
Кpaднєш мoє cepцe, мyшиш бычь
Кшѩчєм.
Tылькo Tы, мaлo цo и пжытaкнѧлaбым,
Teй pyтынє цo з милoшьчи дpви,
Єcтeшь
Oбoк мнє, oбoк мнє, oбoк мнє, oбoк мнє.

Зpóб цo шѩ дa, цo тылькo шѩ дa,
Hєх нaшa бaйкa тpвa,
Хцѧ як кшѩжничкa з кшѩчєм мкнѫчь пo нєбє.
Пжeз шєдeм мóж, гóp, yлиц и жeк,
Гды инни мóвѭ нє,
Бѧдємы бєц дo шєбє.

Пжeз тeн мyp,
Дзивных cпoйжeнь ктópых пeлнo тy,
Пжeз чepвoнe шьвятлa гoжких cлóв
Бєгнѧ.
Пжeз мяcтa клaмcтв
Змyшeни бєц цo дня, бы пoзнaчь єднѫ з пpaвд,
Tы и я!

Жeчывиcтoшьчь и мaжeнє
Myшѫ шѩ втѭж o нac бичь.
Haшѫ бaйкѧ пиш цoдзєннє,
Cкpытѫ в пpoжє звыклых дни.

But it's the most closer to literature language's pronunciation (I made this), all other projects are using c, not ш
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>>62227693
brutal =>German
sensual => French
brutal and sensual => Russian
Yes, it is
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>>62227547
What do you think about that?
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>>62227474
>25% of the population are Russians
>still thinking it's a proxy
How paranoid can one be?
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>>62227779
>>62227820
I think it is good enough, but about 1000 years we use Latin, so it can look strange for unprepared Polish to see it
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>>62228085
This point of view depends on what you think the national state were in Europe before 1648
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>>62228026
I don't know why you are worried about this. I think Russian should use latin. Because slav latin goes from Czech Republic and it's the true slav type of write, even baltoslavs use it.
Cyrillic is going to be a symbol of eurasian stuff, not slav. They are going to islamize our country.
This is the reason why I'm a polandboo, Polish should replace Russian in the East Europe.
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Or maybe we have to use cyrillic. Maybe we have to, but Russian still have to be reformed. Just believe me, I like the language itself, but not orophography and etc. Russian has a lot of problems in it.
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>>62228290
Lol, the difference why we use different alphabets is Christianity, you are orthodox, we are catholics.
and Russian was always been a language of governance, that's why it is so actual for modern times, because it changed so many times. Polish not.
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>>62228366
>but not orophography
maybe you should learn it?
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>>62228290
t.proxylack
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>>62228486
I'm a native speaker. Our orophography just weird and should be reformed, just believe me. especially the ё letter. it's /jo/, but mostly people don't write it

>>62228442
Poles can be ortodox too. And ortodox serbians are using latin alphabet.
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>>62228747
I may be polish, like 3mlns of other russians.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH3WTuz3QAw
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My language is one of few things I proud for.
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>>62228763
Serbians use Cyrillic too, btw
Poles can'be orthodox, 70% of 97% Polish population in Poland are catholic.

I learned Russian and for orophography was not a problem at all. On the Internet, of course it difficult for typing the post that твoя мaмa шлюхa, not твoя мaмa - шлюхa
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>>62228909
>being proud of literal caveman speak
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>>62229018
ыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыыы
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>>62229018
Cyrillic is both younger and more flexible than latin/english systems
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>>62229018
At least, everyone in the world knows some words in Russian, not sure that I can say that someone knows any Slovenians words outside Slovenia
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>>62228442
>and Russian was always been a language of governance, that's why it is so actual for modern times, because it changed so many times. Polish not.
I don't get what you mean. The literarary language is always more archaic. It's the people who make the changes in a language, not the government.

>>62228747
Unfortunately, he isn't.
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>>62229001
5 million of poles are ortodox.

you don't understand me.

I don't care about "citizen nationalism"

EVERY pole by blood is a pole.

Polak nawet na Księżycu nadal będzie polakiem.

Picreleated is polish too.
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>>62229018
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXKWS3Oaars
jeli ovo ista smijesno tebi licno?
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Russian is the second best sounding language, only behind japanese.
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Why can't Slavs just get along?
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>>62229210
>balkanski humor

>>62229182
>CYKA BLYAT xd
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>>62229343
nonhuman blood
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>>62207716

>>62207716

What makes Russian so rich?
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>>62229343
Only Slovenes and Slovaks are real Slavs and I wouldn't say there are any bad feelings between us.
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>>62229256
French is the best.

A russian girl from Latvia singing in French:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcWkqILsYw0
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>>62229568
What about Czechs? Aren't Czechs Slovaks in denial?
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>>62229018
According to this logic we should consider you perverts since it's quite fine for you to say something like "imam ženo in tri otroke" ("I fuck a wife and three children")
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>>62229577
Hell no, french and italian are the worst romance languages.
Why do you think people call them frogs? Because they sound as if they had one stuck on their throats.
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>>62229604
Czechs and Poles are a descendant branch.

>>62229617
>russian logic
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Ruskies and all other fags using our alphabet can thank us for creating Cyrillic.
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>>62229577
French sounds like something invented by people with speech impediment.
When I was a kid I couldn't pronounce my sharp R's and had a lisp (fixed it with surgery), my mom used to joke that I could speak french naturally
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>>62229753
Everyone knows Ciril and Metod were Slovene priests.
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>>62229782
minus the part wherw they're Greek
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>>62229782
They were Greeks, and it was their Slovak disciple who created it, not them. The original Cyrillic was pretty shitty btw.
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>>62229782
Just like everyone knows Saint Kliment was anticki Macedonian.
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>>62229857
>>62229904
>>62229908
Here's a red pill, free of charge: these are tales made by Germie to keep a brother down.
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>>62230034
WE
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>>62230034
To Arkona?
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I'd say that there are a few problems with Cyrillic as used in Russia.
1. Л is too similar to П. This is fixed in handwriting. Flat-topped л and д fonts need to be put away.
2. A general lack of ascenders and descenders impairs reading comprehension.
3. The letter T as written m is, frankly, a bit embarrassing. People mistook serifs as integral parts of the letter, and distorted it.
4. In handwriting, letters are too similar to each other. и, л, м, ц, ш, щ, and the i portion of ы, as well as г and ч. Just think of the word милиции.
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>>62236384
>Л is too similar to П
If you have a solid experience you never mix л and п.
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>>62236384
Might I add
5. Ё. How could I forget ё? Sometimes words like вce and вcё are confused when the dots aren't written. Usage should be more strongly encouraged.
6. Accent marks would be nice.
7. In general, Cyrillic is less compact compared to Latin script. Let's compare Slovak-style with Cyrillic in a few examples:
иcпoльзoвaть
ispol'zovat'
жeнщинa
ženščina
aмepикaнcкoe
amerikanskoe
цepкoвнocлaвянcкий язык
cerkovnoslavjanskij jazyk
дocтoпpимeчaтeльнocть
dostoprimečatel'nost'
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>>62207481
It's music as a language

Russian voices and accents are my favorite thing to hear

I would do anything to have a Russian qt whisper to me at night
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>>62237205
>ispol'zovat'
>the apostrophe used for softness
Why do people do that? It's fucking disgusting
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>>62238060
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanization_of_Russian#Transliteration_table
It is standard.

What would you suggest instead?
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>>62227547
>And I wish we have Cyrillic, but we adopted Latin with Catholicism. Cyrillic is better for our language, than Latin (rz=ж, cz=чб etc)

rz = ž
cz = č

Why are Eastern Europeans so obstinate and self-involved when it comes to language? It's like Czechoslovaks and Yugoslavs don't exist for you.
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>>62238234
An actual letter like j, ĭ, ė or something similar.
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Russian-speakers, how much of Old Church Slavonic do you understand?
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>>62207886
>>62207856
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>>62238460
I second this question.
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KAKASHKA
A
K
A
S
H
K
A
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>>62227779


What are these letters?
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>>62208161
>german

Bezweifel ich doch stark Froschmann.

Fast jeder der sagte, e rkönne Deutsch, kann vielleicht 3-5 Sätze und paar Vokabeln und das war's. Das ist nicht was ich unter "Können" einer Sprache verstehe.
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>>62207481
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>>62239224
ICH WOLLE FICKI FICKI
All you need to know for a visa really
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>>62239063
Little and big yus, respectively. Originally, all Slavic languages had two nasal vowels, and these letters represented them. Only Polish and Kashubian have preserved these nasal vowels, and they represent them with the ogonek. ѧ was like ę, and ѫ was like ą.
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>>62207564
Do you have an Alphabet Song ?
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No, why we should
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>>62207481
We're probably in the top 5, 3 or even 1 nations the most chauvinistic about their language which we call "The Great and Mighty".

Designers hate modern Cyrillic and blame Dutch and Peter I everyday.
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>>62239854
Why do designers hate it?
I like the A E S T H E T I C S of it тьн
How else would we have gotten all those shitty Cold War movie titles
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>>62239719
Coming big from a shit country like Canada which is owned and infested with asians. You don't have any culture any longer leaf shit.
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>>62240169
I'm not an expert but from what I've read so far, pros say "a graphical rhyme" matters. Some elements of different letters should echo each other, letters should have steady rythm, etc. You can see it in Latin, old Cyrillic but not latinised Cyrillic. Too much square letter like Пп, Дд, Цц, Шш, Щщ, they look like combs.
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>>62239854
>We're probably in the top 5, 3 or even 1 nations the most chauvinistic about their language which we call "The Great and Mighty".

56% of all statistics data is invented on spot
same is true for rankings
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>>62240196
Wew it was just a joke
You're not helping the cause to break German stereotypes about humour Hans
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>>62240248
Sounds like humanitarian shit
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>>62240290
I didn't mention any statistics. Besides us only French, American and Spanish are equally proud of their language I guess. Mybe Chinese also?
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>>62240334
?
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>>62240248
>>62240248
Interesting
Gives it a certain charm imo but I can see why it's trouble for designers
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>>62240380
You can use font wihtout "squariness". And letter dont "should" do anything, iys just human tool.
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>>62211062
Tы чё cyкa ты чё?
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>>62236384
>Q is too similar to O
Pretty sure every alphabet has extremely similar letters but you don't mix them up if you know the language
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>>62240484
Most popular fonts have certain styles. Cyrillic letters were chganged to look more Latin to fit into science books. To look like that and not be ugly they *must* follow certain laws of visual harmony.
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>>62240307
But I'm not german. I'm from Turkiye and just living here. Joke's on you.
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>>62240857
Ah then you are forgiven my brother we all know #notallmuslims suck at jokes
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>>62239745
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_CL7MldG6A
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>>62237205
DO USE FIXED WIGHT FONT
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