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4 sisters from little Polish village decided to spend summer holidays in Nice by the sea. 2 of them worked as hairdressers and they were collecting money for almost half a year for it. All sisters were very religious and going to the local church every week. Two of them died under wheels of the muslim killer-driver... Whole village and the local priest are mourning now...
http://krakow.wyborcza.pl/krakow/1,44425,20408509,siostry-z-krzyszkowic-pojechaly-na-wycieczke-zginely-w-zamachu.html#BoxLokKrajLink
Meanwhile fucking Rihanna promoting moral degeneracy and sexism was lucky enough to have concert in Nice one day after the attack.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3691340/Rihanna-safe-Nice-arriving-French-city-just-hours-deadly-attack-left-80-dead.html
Where is God in such situations?
>>62163446
>Where is God in such situations?
got some bad news for you, cathohol...
>>62163446
In my experience god doesn't exists. And if he did, he uses humans as puppets, killing the good letting the bad live.
The kindest, most honest and caring person I know died at 73 from lung cancer and he never smoked. Meanwhile a lot of bad people still live, without ever feeling the consequences of their actions.
>>62163446
>he fell for the god meme
That's photos of these two killed sisters. Last photo is a funeral mass in the village.
>>62163446
Here's your answer:
http://gnosis.org/gnintro.htm
God has an adversary. Someone who can stand up to the "allmighty" has to be good at his game.
>>62163446
I'm really sorry for them. A lot of people are currently praying in Nice's cathedral.
>>62163446
>being this dumb
Either that or b8
>he thinks god is real
oh boy...
>>62163446
Lord have mercy.
>>62163789
>chubby flat-chested women exist
>God exists
How do you reconcile these two statements, polebros?
>>62163446
>life on earth is supposed to be easy and fair
>christians are supposed to be always prosperous, happy and blessed
Read your Bible again friend, Satan rules this earth and his vehicle is America
>>62163789
The second one is the one whose body has stopped the truck, isn't she?
That's why Poles shouldn't go on summer vacations to dangerous and third world places that are currently destabilized like Western Europe, Middle East and part of Africa.
We have sea too.
>>62163986
>christians are supposed to be always prosperous, happy and blessed
that's the "prosperity gospel" protestant version.
>>62164047
aka satanism
>Going to church
>Going to France
They had it coming
>>62163789
I will avoid making distasteful comments on how the overweight one was a pretty easy target on top of that.
>>62163986
>Satan rules this earth and his vehicle is America
Putin is Antichrist and Russia is a tool of Satan. USA is a country where majority of citizens are christian.
>>62164047
Sorry, meant to type "aren't".
My point was that happens in this world is meaningless, your only purpose is to endure
>>62164077
naturally
>>62164075
>USA is a country where majority of citizens are christian.
They are protestant, that's not christian
>>62164075
There are almost no christians in America, just like everywhere else in the world.
>>62163446
You should have known, He didn't come to bring peace.
Well, if they spent time they were in church into training and acrobatics, they would have survived.
As granps always said, "We are going to hell, so you at least can learn how to survive there".
>>62163446
>>62163541
>god doesn't exist or is evil because good people suffer
literally the moral dillemma of a 13 yeard old
>>62164119
It's Christian, just not Catholic.
>>62164075
Russia is more Christian than most other countries.
>>62163998
kek
>>62164151
Why would you want to survive hell?
>>62164190
The only non-catholic christianity there is is orthodoxy. The rest is heresy, they are worse than pagans
>>62164166
Isn't God supposed to be kind hearted? Loving everybody?
Then why isn't anything in live like it?
Fuck religion, it only produces pain and suffering.
>>62164206
Dunno.
If christfags are right and hell exists, that would be my dreamplace. Would at least meet Augustus Nero and hear his poems first-hand.
>>62163446
he's a flying spaghetti monster
>>62164190
>Russia is more Christian than most other countries.
> t. i know nothing about Russia but say bullshit
>>62163446
in islam
>>62164231
Nah, it's a ery natural, integral part of human nature; sadly, it's just wishful thinking. Hell seems a better fate than just losing consciousnes.
>>62164264
And that's Poland - the last real christian country in the world that such antichrists like Putin want to destroy
>>62164264
Notice the "most". 45% is quite a bit, and it's all in the western side. Not all countries are Poland.
>>62164296
>Chat-holic
>addicted to IRC
wew
I feel like I can count on Christians to some extent for how they think and value things but It's utterly absurd to expect something from their God.
>>62164313
Satanic atheists are more numerous in Russia than christians. Stop lying, scum. As little as 5% of Russians go to church, in Poland this ratio oscilates around 70%. Jewish-satanic global propaganda tries to present Russia as a "christian country" to fool christians around the world and persuade them to support this Satan's nest.
>>62164331
Or any God for that matter, but people believe in many things that make little sense just for the sake of it; men will be men. Japan of all places has widespread beliefs on spiritism, ghosts, future telling, and all those Shintoist shticks.
>>62164283
I think it is more of a moral conditioning thing, dont be bad because u go to hell ok?
And i guess trying to explain an inconceivable nothingness to peasants of the age would led to disappointment and the subseuent stoning of the explainer.
>>62163446
Where is what now?
>>62164449
Nah, it's many more things, hence why it still has a niche today, and why most atheists are so because of sociological, rahter than logical reasons. Plus most fill the void with some other supernatural beliefs.
It has weight as a social and identitary vehicle, too.
>believing in the immaterial
>in the current year
>>62163446
there is no God
>>62164791
You won't trick me into being atheist you Baltic pagan
>this thread
>>62164906
All biggest genocidal and antihuman ideologies were based on dogma of non-existence of god. Nazism was talking about christianity as a "religion of the weak" and trying to replace it with tribal paganism. Communism was based directly on atheism. All serial killers in history of humanity were atheist or anti-christian - you won't find even one christian/catholic serial killer. That's why Jewish satanists do everything they can to destroy catholicism. If they managed to remove christianity from the face of the planet, humanity would turn into a shapeless mass of animals killing each other without reason or for fun, where human life would stop being the highest value. We all would act like niggers in Africa.
>>62165026
>We all would act like niggers in Africa.
.. or like muslims, which is more or less the same thing
>>62163446
g*d, you say?
*unsheathes katana*
nothin personnel kid...
*teleports behind you*
>>62165139
>>62164455
Been waiting for you. Like a clock
>>62165026
religion can be good, but there still is no God
>>62163446
Apparently, god exists, not yours Christian god, of course; ask this question to muslim who killed all those people and who is now fucking 72 virgins.
>>62165175
heh...arn't you busy waiting for the second incarnation of g*d, kiddo?
Polish thread about poland.
>god exist
well considering this existence is suffering and the afterlife (paradise) is the final prize if they were shining moral beacons God wanted them to himself earlier
>>62163446
God doesn't rule on earth, Satan does. Jesus said this himself in the Gospel of John.
>>62165458
Did he presented any proofs?
>>62165458
>Implying Gos. John constitutes a reliable direct quotation of Jesus.
>>62165026
plenty of christians were genocidal, are you out of your mind? even the europe daddy Charlemagne executed thousands of pagans simply because they didnt want to convert
>>62165531
It is repeated in the Gospel of Thomas, which although apocryphical, has been dated to the 1-2 century and is authentic. It contains quotes of the living Jesus.
>>62165519
Do you really need more proof? Life is hell, earth is hell. Even now, when we have never been so technologically advanced, and can get our food in supermarkets every day, people still suffer more, and are unhappy way more than they enjoy moments of bliss and happiness. Growing older only worsens this.
There's a reason the most influencial christian heretics in history thought the same: this life cannot be created by a benevolent God. Our soul can, but not everything else.
>>62165673
Well, I'm quite happy.
Tho I have a major lack of empathy, so maybe you're right.
>>62165648
>as if these pagans dindu nuffin
witch burnings are now always thought of to be a late catholic practice (16-18th century), but the truth is that the Church for a long time opposed the people's wishes to burn witches, as this was a practice firmly rooted in paganism (where most of our superstitions come from).
Tacitus for example describes Goths burning three "hallerunan" (hell-runes or witches) of their own kin.
>>62165783
witch burnings are protestant.
but again, it was the people, and you can't stop a mad crowd
>>62165732
"Pain and suffering are always inevitable for a large intelligence and a deep heart. The really great men must, I think, have great sadness on earth."
--from CRIME AND PUNISHMENT, F.M. Dostojevsky
>>62165815
"Love, dreams, hope... Where they came from, and where they go? Such meaningless things"
>knowingly participate in and aid an organisation that a has a history of child abuse
>not deserving to die
Catholics will believe this
>>62165783
>as if these pagans dindu nuffin
thats not what I was arguing, the pole said that all genocidal people are non-christians and christians are a perfect bunch of holy men, which is just not true
people are people, there is a thin veneer of civility on top of tens of thousands of years of savageness and animalistic behaviour, some cultures have a larger layer of civility, but claiming that there is any group that doesn't do messed up brutal shit is ridiculous. Charlemagne demanded that you convert or die, it doesn't matter how good or bad the people he demanded that from are, the ultimatum itself is brutal and this post>>62165026 is shit
All Iraqis and Afghanis must be looking for God as one after another of them is killed in airborne attacks.
>>62163789
Alright I am get it, God hates religious prostitutes, they are trade him to Satan no wonder he kill them. Don't fuck with the God, bitches.
>>62165936
Child abuse in catholic church is a defamation, it doesn't exist. UK was always the biggest enemy of catholic church, just like Jews, that's why i am not even surprised by your attitude. Nobody fucks these children, as you surely imagine. Picrelated is a sexual abuse in your opinion? It is innocent play with children. When i was a child, my priest was always kissing me in forehead and calling "little bee". Is it an abuse? Accordingly to your defamations surely yes.
>>62165868
hehe ;^)
>>62166016
I do agree, but it is just that we must try to look at a certain period in history in the right perspective. In the days of Charlemagne, it was his demands that helped civilize Europe. I never understood people who romanticize paganism from dim prehistory, while cheerfully ignoring the amount of ignorance, cruelty and barbarity that went along with it. Of course, which is what you are saying, christians weren't much better back in the middle ages and during the reformation.
The importance of christianity lies within the morals it teaches, and this mainly in the New Testament. But as the Church is a continuation of the Roman Empire, they also needed the jewish laws of the O.T. and added some things derived from paganism (which was very similar amongst all Indo-European peoples) to make convertion easier and which help the Church to consolidate its power and influence. Having a leader who represents God on earth is a dangerous thing, just look at Innocent III, the Borgias etc.
those who die for the testimony of Yeshua will be raised in glory for life eternal
a time is coming when a great many people should be killed for our Lord, make sure you know for whom you die and what he taught
>>62166204
>little bee
that's hot
>>62166204
>Child abuse in catholic church is a defamation, it doesn't exist
M8, that is simply untrue. Look, yesterday I was enjoying the sun in the local park and I overheard some old punk whore, drunk, rambling something about not understanding that her friend let a priest baptise her child "because all priests are pedophiles". Whilst I am not a catholic, I wanted to give her a piece of my mind, but decided wisely against it.
Yet there is and was a lot of child abuse within the RCC. I would never deny that. Our local bishop used to be a very popular figure, until it came out that he had anally raped his own nephew several times at a very young age. People will kill him if he ever shows his face on our streets again.
Banning priests from having normal relationships is unhealthy, was not done the first millenium of the Church's existance (basically invented by Rome to keep possessions of noble families theirs), and it also attracts sexual deviants.
>>62165274
So are you saying, everyone gets it, in what they are believe?
>>62166328
When muslims make rape-rings and fuck thousands of children in UK, it's OK. When Jewish rabbis suck blood from cut dick of Jewish toddlers and fuck underaged Jewish child-girls, it's OK. But when a Polish catholic priest kisses a Polish child, it is a "sexual abuse".
>>62166432
catholic priests should be allowed to marry again
>>62163446
>Where is God in such situations?
Seriosly? Dude created all evil on Earth like wars, pain, deseases, Death, to overcome this evil and become a man of god. Life on Earth is about enduring and learning. For a having fun God kicks your ass, personaly see.
>>62165458
What if Satan serve to a God?
>>62163446
There's no answer to such questions
Christians don't really know God well, they only have the NT and the life of Jesus, and it's based on this that they make assumptions about God
Despite all this, religion and God are necessary in life anyway, imo
>>62165673
>repeated in the gospel of Thomas
So if myself and one other person tell you a lie you'll believe it, regardless of how ludicrous it may be?
>>62163446
>Where is God in such situations?+ 0 post omitted.
Protecting the only non-satan loving country.
IE: Spain.
>>62166692
maybe he does, we can't really know
I like Plato's idea of a demiurgos, a failed creator -a child of Knowledge impregnating herself- that tried to imitate the true Creator.
As he is imperfect, his creation is, and somehow he tricked or convinced the Creator to put life into his imperfect creation. Hence life on earth exists, and our souls wwhich have been previously in a state of eternal bliss (this is the longing to a lost paradise present in everyone's subconscious), but snatched away and caged into a material body.
When we die we return to where we come from, but if you live a bad life, you will reincarnate until eternity.
The creation of this demiurgos can only stop if he kills himself.
The cathars and bogomili of the Balkans had similar beliefs. In fact, some of these elements are still present in today's ex-Yugoslavian folklore.
If this interests you, watch the Bosnian-Serbian movie Neprijatelj. It's really good.
>>62167126
What is more ludicrous? That our earth/universe and everything in it, including ourselves, have been created by a benevolent God? Or a not-so-benevolent one?
Even as a fedorah you have to accept the "The Lord values your free will higher then the individuals lost by humans using this free will to fuck each other up" answer.
It gets more difficult with sickness and genetic cripples.
>>62168345
Thanks.
>>62163446
>Where is God in such situations?
Idk, speak with this guy
>>62165673
>bringing cathar heresy into /int/
Wew, do you really want the next crusade to be against Belgium instead of Muslims?
>>62168390
And in what way does that answer the question I asked?
>>62169040
The cathars and bogumili (and paulicians) were only sane, decent, intelligent people in the last 2000 years of christianity.
>>62169848
>t.Fedora
>>62169040
Is there a difference?
>>62171323
your pic is quite a sad thing, its a shame how centuries later there are plenty of people who still insist on taking everything literally, the entire ME is a shithole because ever since Baghdad burned the people who insist that absolutely everything in their holy book is literal took over
they actually tried measuring the size of the physical form of god based on some of the passages, I am not even kidding right now
>>62164264
>>62164344
>western liberals call russia a fanatic bigotted thecracy
>western conservatives call russia a degenerate, atheist, godless country
lmao no matter what russia does people will always find a reason to hate it
>>62172041
like they always find a reason to hate France, Germany, UK, etc..
>>62172041
>>62172235
well the bigger the state is, not just in terms of physical size but also in terms of the "footprint" it leaves in the world, the easier it is to hate them
>>62166414
No, I just said Muslim god 1:0 Christian god
>>62163446
>Where is God in such situations?
Cheering for the truck driver.
>>62173674
But Ivan, they are all the same Jew God
>>62164236
That's not how Christian Hell works. It isn't just a theme park of degeneracy where you can mingle with the other patrons. It is the eternal deprivation of anything good or beautiful.
>>62163446
Tbh poles are fucking retarded but that is very sweet rip poles
>>62163446
There is no god. Your 2000-years old jewish fairy tales written by a bunch of desert lunatics are irrelevant in the 21th century.
Just because in a past your pedophile priests had supported your stride toward freedom against the opressors doesn't mean that you have to cling to the past. Get over with it
>it's a Polish zealot episode
>>62163998
fucking france why did I laugh at this
Because the one true God is Ahura Mazda. I hope all you christian heretics drown in rivers of molten steel you faggots.
>>62179684
Wishful thinking and encouraged ignorance is just as dangerous in modern society as it was 2000 years ago. The dangerous part never was belief in some crazy diety up in the clouds. It was the establishment of a mentality of blind faith and acceptance of information monopoly and an appeal to authority.
>>62179178
I do not think it is eternal in all flavours of christianity. In some you just have to burn your part of evil and then you can get to heaven.
