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Yarın başkanlığa uyanmazsak iyidir
>iplik
huehuehue
>>62150455
Translation?
>>62150517
Kötü haberim var anon ama yarın başkanlı sistemine uyanırsak iyidir.
How should the army try to restore secularism without violence if there is a large number of supports who will be violently in support of a non-secular ideal?
WHY ARE THESE THREADS ALL OF A SUDDEN TAKEN OVER BY ''ANTI COUPERS''?
Kim basarili ya da basarisiz diyemez. daha cok erken. yarin anca belli olur
>>62150533
it is not important. he's addressing to his chomars
>>62150510
there's barely any news coming from pro-coup side and I haven't seen any protesters being FOR the coup
and pictures and news from everywhere of military being arrested
>>62150455
WHEN WILL THE BLOODSHED END?
>>62150486
But is the current government oppressive or totalitarian or what?
What motivates the military coup?
i like how there's footage of Turks only ducking in place when hearing gunfire and not running away
thats motivation
bardağa dolu taraftan bakın. fetullahcıların komple anası sikilcek
>>62150581
And this?
>>62150565
Because it failed and were not anti coupers were just not retards that ignore whats going on. The soldiers are surrendering and the loyalist forces are starting to strike back.
>>62150558
Removal
>>62150558
This is not about secularism though , it's about the new system that Erdoğan wants in but no one else does.
You guys just always think it's about secularism because you don't know anything about the politics here
so who is couping exacly?
i thought erdogan purged the kemalists in the military and replaced them by loyals? are those still unhappy about his politics or what?
>>62150591
>What motivates the military coup?
Paid USA shills
>>62150638
People all of a sudden say ''a coup would not be good'', sounds anti.
is this about the local kebab shop here in münster street raising their prices for a kebab to 4€?
if so, i fully support the overtake!
we are the people and we're no longer gonna take it!
>>62150623
"We all fine folks."
>>62150591
They say the current goverment is corrupt and they're arguing about the new presidency system
>>62150651
Isn't there a thing about granting citizenship to Syrian refugees?
>>62150623
we captured the incitives bla bla
none of our commanders approve of this bla bla (meaning army is innocent, only a part of it did this)
glorious nation bla
>POLICE OR MILITARY
http://www.strawpoll.me/10756419
Prepare for a failed coup and Turkey going full Kebab uh akhbar
>>62150682
People are remembering what happened on september 12.
https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/12_Eyl%C3%BCl_Darbesi
Why do all political forces of Turkey disprove the coup? Why don't kemalists support it?
>>62150682
because coups doesnt really help. erdogan should go decomratically. these coups only make him and his alikes more powerful each time, history showed this to us many times.
>>62150695
Your current president is a dictator, tho, is he not?
I'm sorry I should already know these things, but I don't.
>>62150685
That's clearly cheap. Are the fries included in the price?
So the coup has pretty much failed, right?
Or is it still unclear?
If it's failed then it's quite disappointing. Yet another non-happening.
there are some people in taksim, some cops dead, one helicopter down. literally the only "resistance" going on. this isn't enough to repel a coup. how long are people going to just stand around? they accomplish nothing
>>62150716
Well the population is heavily against it but nah , it's not about it.
There will probably be a referendum for that though
https://twitter.com/thevocaleurope/status/754090684114755591
:d
https://twitter.com/thevocaleurope/status/754090684114755591
>>62150455
Why are Syrians celebrating?
>>62150638
Yeah but here are the things you're ignoring
>Turkish intelligence building set on fire
>Turkish parliament surrounded by tanks
>60+ police officers killed
>Bosporus bridges blocked
>Politicians kidnapped
>Erdogan facetiming instead of speaking the public
that looks like a pretty strong start to me m8
>>62150742
I suport it
>>62150742
>Why do all political forces of Turkey disprove the coup?
Because they are brainwashed by erdoğan
>>62150777
if majority of army will not back them up by morning it's completely over.. another victory for erdogan.
hazır vpn de açıkken yatmadan evvel bi http://brazzers.com'a bakayım diyorum, habire ya sela ya ezan okuyorlar ama olmaz ki.
Are the army the secular Turks and the government Islamist? Please respond
>>62150741
>>62150748
>PEOPLE ARE NOT ANTI COUP
>WE ARE ANTI COUP BECAUSE...
>decomratically elected
Sounds like a fucking AKP shill.
>>62150806
this. these threads are filled with anti-coup shills. you're retarded if you think this is actually "failed"
>>62150806
He is now speaking in public
>politicians kidnapped
Sauce?
>>62150833
Yes
>>62150777
You have obviously desinfirmation from all sides.
>>62150774
no!
you will just get a kebab for that price
it used to be 3.50 € for as long i've been living here, but some months ago those greedy turks suddenly raised it to 4 €
"Crowds are standing for the military", Sky Television reports
There are scenes of roaches letting the "Polis" pass
There are scenes with roaches surrounding militars, unclear if they are with them or against them just by looking at the images
If Erdoğan wins, will he grab more power and be more pro Islam?
Bu gerizekali yobaz milleti sikeyim
All the turks are here
>>62149300
>>62150777
>Or is it still unclear?
Unless it is false flag of Erdogan like some claim, it will not be clear any time soon. If coup was legit and fails it will incite the actual civil war in Turkey.
>>62150920
Yes.
>>62150806
>soldiers retreaded from atatürk airport
>they captured the pro coup bursa gendarmerie commander
>the civilians took over tanks and disarmed people
>the police captured 30+ soldiers
>pro government f16 s shot down a coup helicopter
>everyone is on the street supporting the government
Seems like it is failing to me also there are no soldiers in other parts of turkey except istanbul and ankara of course
>>62150754
He isn't a dictator since he is elected democratically
>>62150925
KAPAT K*RT
>>62150826
damn, why is everybody hyping this up so much? It sounds like it was just some grand scheme for Erdogan to consolidate even more power and bring the army under his control once and for all.
>>62150920
Yes. This will play massively in his favour when its over. Unless by some magic chance the coup succeeds.
>>62150937
>le civil war
pffffffffffffffff. stupid putinbots.
>>62150946
Oh, child...
>>62150833
Aye the army view themselves as defenders of Turkeys secularist inception, which is why Erdogan has systematically weakened them since they got in power and militarised the loyalist police force.
>>62150940
He'll get fucked in the end though.
GEBERTIN COMARLARI
>>62150849
yeah, what even is this shit? is /int/ full of islamists or something?
>>62150946
What the fuck is going on in these threads?
What... how is this real?
How did you manage it to manipulate these dynamics like that?
>>62150944
proofs?
>>62150896
Kebab is 6€50 here (with fries/chips).
>>62150906
and again, "Germany denies Erdogan permission to land", Sky reports
>>62150896
They knew and were trying to secure funds.
>>62150920
He'll be worse than before.
>>62150925
Bu. Bugüne kadar ekşideki "türkiye'den siktir olup gitmek" başlığına yazanlara cringe olurdum
Ama bugün ezandan sonra "din için vatan için dışarı çıkın" lafını duyunca umudum kalmadı
>>62150937
>civil war
this really seems like yet another one of those countless /pol/ memes which NEVER come to fruition.
People here always hype things up, but in almost every case the "boring" option ends up winning (Brexit is one of the only examples).
>>62151016
>democratically elected
>in fair elections
>against solid opposition parties and their media
>"""dictator"""
k
https://twitter.com/MhmtSlmz/status/754082366834999296
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKK
What's the best news stream covering the coup?
>take vacation
>stage coup
>kill off all your enemies
>come back and resume rule with larger support
mafia tier tbqh
Amına koduğumun imamı yüzbininci selayı okudu amk.
>>62150906
>>62151025
Now I can see roaches taking selfies with the military
Clearly pro-coup
>>62151072
>erdogan was democratically elected
>we're not anti coup
>the coup is failing
>coups aren't good
?????????????????
F R E E K U R D I S T A N
>>62151072
Remember Caesar was elected too :^)
>>62151031
tl;dr
>>62151017
Sadly only have turkish ones since al jazeera is shitting it self. Watch the turkish news they show live broadcast from atatürk airport and the bosporus bridges
Can you at least not take Erdogan back?
>>62150754
Amerifag with close ties to both Kurds and Turks
Both parties are pissed off with the current government, due to corruption and mounting evidence that military heads are supporting the Islamic State, along with violations of civil rights
Altogether, a flawed system.
>>62151087
>Sabah
>a heavily pro akp newspaper
>>62151115
>erdoğan was democratically elected
Yes , he was
>coups aren't good
They are worse than the most oppressive leader you can think of
Don't give (you)s to same shitposting erdobot
>>62151068
>which NEVER come to fruition.
It came in Syria and Ukraine tho.
haha k*rds are fucked no matter who wins :^)
>>62150946
Btw did you know who got voted democraticlally in 1933 and gt 43% ?
And they are telling everywhere that hitler was a dictator...while in reality he got democratically ellected and changed the constitution in a way that the parliament had less power and the chancler has more power.
is it over yet?
>>62151115
Hey, man, Obumma said so
>>62151204
Then why do you say you're not anti coup?
This doesn't make sense.
Something is weird in here.
can people stop fucking using Twitter as a news source for ongoing events
god fucking damn, you'd think 4chan would be safe from this fucking retarded "social media" cancer, but clearly not
Taken straight from /pol/, tell me how much of this is real or bullshit
"
Government ousted.
People are NOT coming to the streets(less than 5000 are out, state media claiming bullshit using photos from Morocco in 2015)
Government places taken over
No one has seen military command
60k troops have gone dark near Syrian border.
Spreading to smaller towns and cities.
All airliners grounded or diverted.
MARMARIS COUP IN EFFECT. Troops have taken control of the tourist town."
>>62151204
Top kek.
>>62151191
Yeah I noticed. And it's only one place...
right?
>>62151072
From what I understand Erdogan has a strong hold over Turkish media.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaman_(newspaper)
>Zaman was a major, high-circulation daily before government seizure on 4th of March, 2016
HOLY SHIT BIG BOOM IN ANKARA
>>62151173
link
>>62151270
/pol/ is never right
>>62151270
why any mod want to redirect us to that shithole is beyond me
MECLIS GG
>>62151270
well that's not the national TV channels are saying, though it just could be propaganda. we don't know anything yet
>>62151298
http://www.ntv.com.tr/canli-yayin/ntv
>>62150735
It's only a small part of military. A coup helicopter is already shot down by pro government f-16.
>>62151238
'33 was last fair election. after that he killed opposition and elections were rigged.
>>62151238
No one said that hitler was a dictator
>>62151266
this tbqh, i wish they made posting irrelevant twitter messeges a bannable offence
TBMM VURULDU
V
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L
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looks like this was a false flag
erdogan is going to use this to become sultan
>>62151266
The misinfo and contradictory statements are the funnest part of happenings.
>>62151311
noldu xocam meclise? baya büyük bir patlama duydum az önce. ankaradayım ben.
>>62151317
why the fuck does the police have fucking fighter jets?
>Kurds condemn coup
>Gulenists condemn coup
>Populace massively against coup
I guess the army didn't do their due diligence.
>>62151356
hadi lan ordan
>>62150651
>Problems in country
>Hey let's make a coup and ruin the country and have a new recession instead of making democratic vote like civilized people and with the help of hundreds and thousands of international organization about electoral transparencies
>literrally is bisi olmadi
why?
>>62151208
WHO ARE THE COUPERS?
-Are they the old Atatürk loyal military?
-Are they Gülenists?
-Are they none of it all , just some officers who hat to live in the country with the most journalists jailed in the world?(Pretty unlikely...)
>>62151270
>No one has seen military command
What does this sentence even mean?
>>62151374
Obviously a loyal air force jet, not police.
>>62151361
This.
I was excited about it because they could have killed erdoğan
>>62151374
They don't retard. It's not police vs military. It's 2% military vs 98% miltary & police.
It failed.
>>62150906
>>62151025
>>62151111 (checked)
Germany, "democracy has to be respected"
>>62151317
fake
>>62151308
This.
>>62151371
Bende duydum, duman çıkıyor o taraftan.
>>62151072
>fair elections
kek
Are there any Turkbros that even know what the hell is going on now? Too much conflicting reports.
>>62151323
He had a democratic mandate!
wtf they are saying that the national assembly has been hit
>>62151413
He's implying the military command is imprisoned and stifled.
helikopter geçti evin üstünden askeri çok yakından tıstım amk ateş mi etti yoksa motor gürültüsümü anlamadım
what's with this faggot mod redirecting is to /pol/
if not /int/ then /news/ should be the best place to go
when people are breaking out turkish flags wrapping around what looks like a central square statue or unfurling extra large flags and walking through the streets with them, who would those guys typically be supporting
>>62151444
dibimde bomba patladı lan resmen nasıl bir sesti o
>>62151471
true. those retards should just find erdogan instead bombing our own buildings.
>>62151459
wait another 4-5 hours or so, the sun will rise in Durgey, and by then the situation will probably be much more clear.
translation pls
>>62151484
>implying the mods can even remember there's a /news/ half the time
Interesting that this is the first military coup worldwide this year.
whats the status,im going to sleep now and am not watching any live streams
>>62151397
>instead of making democratic vote like civilized people
Well, there is kinda problem with democratic votes if the leadership has the media in their pocket combined with a large fanatically religious population who will vote any retard as long as he promises to enable sharia laws...
istanbulda şişli tarafı patlama duyan var mı
Flying to turkey early in the morning, can i join in on the bantz?
>>62151438
Erdogan was visiting German cities holding speaches with statements like:
>"Assimilation is genocide"
I hope he dies.
>>62151528
>4 3 2
Is that Defcon?
Literally all turkish tv channels are cursing the coup attempt.
It's ogre guys.
>>62151187
Both parties? I thought it was just one group who wanted to coup the government?
Corruption
Isis support
violations of civil rights
Why the hell do Turks want this to continue then?
Seems to me the military coup is a good thing?
>>62151575
I hope he dies but that the civilian go unharmed.
>>62151598
;_;
so it failed?
no chance of the rest of the army joining?
>>62151513
>>62151494
>>62151553
>>62151480
Please Someone answer this
>>62151410
>>62151025
>"Germany denies Erdogan permission to land"
false. stop believing menes. jesus
>>62151541
Nista se ne zna jos tacno... nisi u nici nadam se?
bombaladılar lan hala mı tiyatro tıstım şimdi amk
>>62151629
they are apparently gülenists trying to act like kemalists.
wew
>>62151410
Government says they are gulenists but we don't know for sure
>>62151546
So what ? Most of western medias are owned by big industrialswho has political interests, if people are stupid enough to vote because V told them to do so, then its their problem, you have to respect the democratic rules
And he dont want to enable sharia, thats just political games, he even betrayed his first islamist underground support because they were too extreme, he probably wants turkey to accept his muslim past but not full sharia like saudi arabia or iran
Pro-coup demonstrators being fired against by loyalists on Bosphorus bridge.
>>62151410
gulenists. army hates both gulenists and erdogan
>>62151644
t. some random troll with better sources than sky
>>62151628
Seems like. Military officials and opposition party spokespeople have condemned the coup attempt, and thousands are out on the streets in opposition of the coup. It didn't work out.
>>62151101
dini yönü kuvvetli arkadaşlarımıza sorayım:
selanın verilmesinin amacı belli ama benim bildiğim bu iş amaçla değil bir sebeple yapılan bir şey (birinin ölmesi vb.) buradaki asıl sebebin erdoğan'ın emri ya da her neyse olduğunu biliyoruz ama bize söylenen/söylenecek olan sebep ne?
fetö'cülerin kafir oldukları ve ona karşı okunduğu mu?
yoksa milletin dini duygularını sömürmek için istenildiği gibi okunabiliyor mu bu?
an itibariyle burada 1 saat 25 dakikadır okunuyor. bu kadar uzun olmasının sebebini de öğrenmek isterim. saygılar.
>>62151621
Well, the pro AKP-istas are responsible for all journalists or critics jailed in show trials.
I hope they survive unharmed while their women and children burned in a firestorm.
That's what happens to the evil guys.
That's what good guys do.
>>62151697
Where are you faggots getting these news from? Shit I'm watching keeps parroting the same shit
>>62151659
jesam lel.....u gradu pokraj
>>62151675
how dumb can you get
"lmao I'm gonna be the new tank man xD"
What are the odds that the Coupers create a breakaway state out of Thrace?
>>62151731
majority of the army is also not supporting the coup as well. all the high rank generals are saying that they dont support it etc.
>>62151745
İnsanlar ölüyor/ölecek diyo okuyorlar diye düşünüyorum hocum.
>>62151786
Under 0
It's crazy how there are so many people that love being oppressed by a dictator
I believe there's a name for it, it's called stockholm syndrome
>>62151745
oha amk istiklal marşını okuyor bizim imam şimdi de full 10 kıta okuyacak mı acaba.
F
>>62151139
F R E E K U R D I S T A N
>>62151644
I'm only reporting what Sky Television reports, they just stated that their source about that is Der Spiegel. Blame the Germans.
Last news, just in: "Coup has failed", Sky News reports.
Now the images of military being arrested by polis > military being successful
>>62151675
he was pretty lucky, if he got under the tracks i would report this post
>>62151767
Pick a handful news outlets; it's the internet, dear.
>>62151687
>Most of western medias are owned by big industrialswho has political interests
Most of western countries also do not attempt to censor facebook and twitters and while media industries have political interests they are not all in the hands of one individual, who also happens to lead the country..
Unironically praying for Turkey. Good luck guys.
>>62151139
>>62151826
even the kurds are against the coup aswell you retards
worst coup ever
erdogan probably tricked these retards into doing it so he could grab even more power
Why do all Turkish political forces stand against the coup? Why don't anti-Erdogan ones support it?
>>62151810
You love when UE forces you to host jamal, why is it different for other people ?
>>62151828
coup failed but huge explosions in ankara. man the noises are so high.
>>62151786
Clear zero
This is only reinforcing my belief that Turks are some of the dumbest people alive
>mosques telling people to go to the streets
any more proof turkey is an islamic state?
>>62151866
well they are politicians. junta kills politics. killed many times in fact.
https://twitter.com/thevocaleurope/status/754093931021893634?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
rocket fired at a building
Shit's heavy, I don't really know what's going on but I hope you guys are ok and things turn out good in the end.
Stay safe anons, whatever comes out of it, i wish you the best possible outcome.
Fuck Erdogan, Fuck Islam and basically fuck msot people.
>>62151864
>tricked
More like staged it himself.
BİŞEY PATLADI ANKARADA BİŞEY PATLADI HASSİKTİR
>>62151862
k*rds are againts coup becuase they know they ll get rekt under military rule kek.
>>62151876
You're going to be okay right?
>>62151921
thats pretty much what i meant yeah
>>62151555
If you are an anti-erdogan politician, you can just condemn the coup then if it succeeds you can say you are being pragmatic and accepting the situation.
>>62151908
nevermind, it's fake. see; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pffdijUI1U
>>62150565
Because turkroaches wants to DEMOCRATICALLY gave up on their rights, to the hands of Sultan Erdogan, Prime Minister turned President. They wants to get rid of the secularism, and become the islamic state.
>>62151914
Simply put, this.
Turkish parliament in Ankara is being fired upon by an attack helicopter, according to Turkish Fox TV as relayed by Reuters.
>>62151810
Maybe he's not a dictator and you've been hanging out on 4chan too much? Ever thought of that?
>>62151941
He'll be fine, Turks have been around for about 350 million years.
>>62151139
with the rule of military or rule of erdoğan, kurds will get fucked hard anyways amed
>>62151914
t. Lahouaiej
>>62151672
>they are apparently gülenists trying to act like kemalists.
Why do you think that?
>>62151684
>Government says they are gulenists but we don't know for sure
Who else could they be? Why don't they state what camp they are?
>>62151699
>gulenists. army hates both gulenists and erdogan
And what camp are the coupers? And are there two coupers now?
Like a splitt militarry both camps illoyal to the dear leader erdogan?
Have any Kemalists survived the rise of Gülen and AKP anyway?
why do you keep saying the coup failed? There is no proof of that at all, if anything it is still ongoing seeing all the videos of combat
>>62151413
The pro erdogan military commanders have not been seen; presumably they are the ones that have been taken hostage
>>62151902
I mean, even Kurds are against it. It's really strange. And I think at least kemalusts should support it.
Also I see ton of bullshit from both sides. What's going on? Some claim coup has failed, some claim it's okay.
>>62151999
ne yandın amınakodumun oğlu bi sus :DDDDDD
>>62151984
t. andalusian cryptojewish moor
>>62151845
They do, less than turkey because it is an unstable country but they do
And to take an example in France, Patrick drahi, who happens to hold half of french TVs is a big supporter of the PM, Bouygues, who holds the biggest TV station in france, was a supporter of Sarkozy, or in Italy, Berlusconi holds Rai tv, the biggest tv station
>>62152027
during the tv stuff when they occupied the national tv they were using words from atatürk's speech to youth and giving heavy implications that they are kemalists
but now it turns out they are actually gulenists all the govermental officials are claiming it.
>>62152031
they are erdoğan bots do not believe them we still have hope
>>62151976
This, they democratically elected a corrupt totalitarian and are actually stupid enough to state that being anti-coup is being pro-democracy in this case lmao
genocide gerçekleşiyor mu
>>62151995
t. burak turkoglu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezi_Park_protests
3.5 million people protesting in almost entire Turkey back in 2013 for the SOLE purpose of:
"Authoritarianism of Recep Tayyip Erdoğan[5][6]
Lack of public consultation[7]
Violation of democratic rights[6]
Media censorship and disinformation[6]
Use of excessive force by police[6][8][9]
Government policies connected to the Syrian Civil War[10]
Alcohol restrictions[11]
Center-periphery dissonance[12]"
maybe not literal dictatorship but it's pretty fucking close to it ain't it now?
>>62152052
You flatter me.
>>62152102
Are the people backing the military on this one?
Confirm to me.
Did the F-16 were the ones who bombed the parliament?
>>62152096
>all the govermental officials are claiming it.
it must be true then XD
>>62151995
>Maybe he's not a dictator
it's funny how people forgets fast
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gezi_Park_protests
>>62152096
>they were using words from atatürk's speech to youth and giving heavy implications
sevinmiştim bir an için dog
>>62152133
secular ones will just stand silent
Hey turks why are you all so useless? Why do you want to become an Islamist shit hole?
Say goodbye to your Tourism industry.
>>62152096
doesn't the military hate gulen?
>>62151995
DUDE, that guy actually did build himself a palace, faked support during the elections, oppress the opposition. He is a dictator, if I ever saw one.
>>62152142
if it was kemalists doing the coup they would never hide it because they are in a de facto war againsts kemalists as well but pretty much all kemalist military is against coup stuff.
LÜTFEN BI ÜMİT VERİN BÖYLE BİTEMEZ
>>62152070
Well I'm not arguing that you southern shitholes are not halfway into dictatorships, but it really goes against the western ideas to have political powers to control media.
>>62152140
yes that's what i heard from local news channel at least
>>62152133
i support coup tb.h
>>62152193
TBMMyi vurmuşlar diyolar
eğer gerçekse cidden tiyatro mu bu amk
>>62152031
It does not have public support, it does not have political support, and it does not have military support.
The people on the streets right now are not out there to show support. The political parties have condemned the attempt. Mosques are encouraging people to move against the perpetrators of the coup attempt. The military at large has washed its hands of everything and will most likely not be sending reinforcements. Police authorities are opposing the coup.
The coup has failed.
>>62152113
Technically it is democratic. The democratic response to a bad leader is to vote him out of power next election (which this in mind, terms should be short). Only in exceptional cases should a coup be done.
>>62152133
I am backing the military, but it seems the coup is dying.
>>62152237
Gerçek gerçek, ama nedenini anlamış değilim.
Apparently the Parliament building in Ankara has been bombed, according to AP.
SARI SAÇLIM MAVİ GÖZLÜM
N E R E D E ?
E
R
E
D
E
?
>>62151828
Sky News is mirroring some the NTV videos showing military being arrested by police, but not so sure about those sources, they say.
Reporters are laughing at the military retreating
>>62151876
Bomb against the Parliament, Sky News reports. Their source is official, they say.
Fighters are still flying
>>62152177
when erdogan and gulen were allies a lot of gulenist people were accepted to high raks of the army, before erdogan these kind of soldiers would be fired from the army because of "islamists leanings". but now since gulen and erdogan is at war these gulenists army people staged a coup.
military in general hate gulen though.
>>62152193
Tamamı bir oyundu bunun anon.
>>62152208
So it's the enitre military, not just in Ankara na Istambul?
jet uçuyo lan sesi geliyo dışardan
>>62152178
>DUDE, that guy actually did build himself a palace
This palance meme again. It's a government residence. I guess USA is a dictatorship too for building the white house. How dare they?
> faked support during the elections
wtf, even anti erodgan turks here will tell you that elections in turkey are monitored heavily and there is nothing faked about it.
>oppress the opposition.
lol really? Like how? Even the opposition right now made a statement to support the government.
>>62152208
>I support coup
See in you jail next week
>>62152201
If they told you so, why could it be false ?
Why Hillary Clinton was named as de facto candidate despite having close to zero legitimity ?
We don't know shit about Ankara and the rest of the country. Any information?
>>62152244
are you shilling or are you a retard from /pol/?
Tiyatro mu degil mi anonlar?
>>62152308
ANASINI SİKİYİM YETER BE
HİÇ Mİ YÜZÜMÜZ GÜLMEYECEK
OROSPU ÇOCUĞU ARAP DÖLLERİ KUTLAMA YAPIYOLAR ŞU AN AŞAĞIDA
>>62152296
I think what happened based on 3 different bit of footage is that security forces took back that tv station, the military troops being arrested by police and escorted out there. That qt presenter with the rest of the tv staff is now out of coup control.
Skynews says that gulen denies to be involved in the coup
>>62152096
But aren't the Governmental officials claiming to be sourrounded by gülenists ever since the erdogan decided that he doesn't want to share power with the secret network that helped him into power?
Since the big purge inside pulice an justice when someone found out that erdogans children are atually corrupt, Erdogan accused every oppnent to be part of Gülen. Propably HDP will be jailed for beeing secretly a gülen division, soon.
I wouldn't trust the government...and I wouldn't trust the coupers.
There have to be some neutral sources of information.
Remember the first victim in a war is allways the truth.
>leftards here comparing the Turkish coup with the Brazilian """""""coup"""""""
>leftards have no idea who Erdogan is
>>62152296
yes 4 bombs were dropped to the parliament, i heard all of them last 2 were really powerful, it was as they exploded right next to me and ground shaked.
>>62152158
tayyipten ne kadar nefret etsem de demokratik yollardan devrilmesini isterim. bu tip olaylar onu yoketmiyor aksine kahramanlaştırıyor. iyi ki kemalistler çıkmamış darbeciler.
So what is the motive behind this coup?
Is it good or bad?
I want to know who to meme on.
>>62152373
tiyatro olması için çok fazla kan aktı gibi görünüyor
sen gerçekten italya'da mısın?
Has there been a year with as many happenings as 2016 this century?
tüh gene habbenüng olmadı amq sikem sokam t*rk maymunları bi boku beceremiyorsun amqqqqqqq
>>62152398
Tayyip demokrasinin anasını sikmiş sen hala adam demokrasiyle gitsin isterim diyosun. Götümüzü siktiler, bu ülke bitti.
>>62152346
>Why Hillary Clinton was named as de facto candidate despite having close to zero legitimity ?
Because USA is so far way from western ideals that it has become basically eastern.
>just fuck my city up instead of killing Erdogan
nice
>>62152405
good, they are toning down the kebab.
>>62152379
Biri beni vursun amk yeter ;_;
>>62152412
Ben de emin olamiyorum baskanlik icin bu kadar magduriyet yaratacak kadar kafayi siyirmamistir heralde. Evet gercekten italya'dayim
>>62152363
I don't like Erdogan enough to shill for him and I don't frequent /pol/.
Oh fugg where's he going now
JUST
>>62152042
The thing is that, there are rumors that ppl doing the coup are gulenists
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gülen_movement
And they are pretty much the sameshit as erdogan.
Thats why kemalists and the rest of the military are in between and not sure on what to do.
>>62152142
I thought the same way as you did but I have been told by a friend of mine whose father was a colonel in the army that they are gulenists.
So I dont know what the fug to believe anymore
>>62152405
If they're taking down Erdogan and restoring glorious Kemalism, then it's good.
If they're Gulenists, or if they fail, Turkey is more fucked than ever.
>>62152488
THEY FAILED. IT'S OVER. WE'RE FUCKED.
>>62152443
Erdogan is circling in the air, see >>62152479
I wonder how long until the fuel runs out :^)
>only poor muslim people from the east of Turkey support Erdogan, the european west doesn't
>1 million "progressive" Turks in Constantinople go out to support Erdogan
>>62152484
Poor beautiful blonde girl.
I'm sorry the coup failed. Good luck to Turks from now on, considering the God-king will rip and purge the military and have full control of the country, and its hardline fanatic Islamist route.
https://www.flightradar24.com/40.57,27.72/8
>>62152441
Good point
>>62152405
Turkey is becoming less secular and more of an Islamic hellhole. Erdogan is pro-Mulsims, of which there are a lot, while the army is more secular, in line with Ataturk's vision of the country.
The coup will fail and Erdogun will receive more power; Turkey will eventually go full Sharia.
>>62152479
'You appear to be attempting to flee the country'.
>>62152474
Then why do you pretend to be informed on the matter? You repeat it like erdogans dogma, there is a coup going on right now and for some reason you are trying to convince people that the coup has failed and it has no support lmao
https://www.facebook.
com/cnnturk/videos/10157294358565106/
NO
NO NON ON ON ON ON ONO NO NONONONONONNON
>>62152405
All of this is just an act to support erdogan with his presidency plans.
He'll claim it wouldn't happen if he had more authority.
Fuck.
>>62152124
Turkey is some of teh most unfree states in the world.
They have 0% freedom of speech.
All media is controlled by Erdogan.
They are as democratic as Russia.
Except. the don't fake elections. They don't need to, as all media is under government control.
>>62152158
>>62152208
>>62152282
Could it trigger a wider popular movement? Or is it already strenghening the govt in its position?
I just got home and this this is weirding the fuck out of me.
On the one hand Erdogan is no saint, but on the other I don't want things to devolve into chaos. Stay safe bros.
>>62152393
its really convoluted issue german bro. yes gülenists are widely purged from justice and police but government cant just go to army and ask for people, then you crumble the structure of army and its very dangerous because we are also trying to deal with kurds in the east.
lets see what happens.
>>62152431
xocam ben hiç bir seçimde hile döndüğünü düşünmüyorum açıkçası, o zaman demokrasi bir şekilde uygulanıyor demektir. elbette çok eksiği gediği var orası ayrı bir mesele.
>>62152485
>there are rumors that ppl doing the coup are gulenists
>>62152488
>If they're Gulenists
This was already busted by analysts.
bardağa dolu tarafından bakın bu karıyı tanıyamayacaktınız eğer happening olmasa
Kek People on the ankara airport are forced to welcome Erdogan. Even tourists are.
Turk People keep believing in your propaganda state tv
>>62152484
ScarJo?
Apparently people took the bosporus bridge back.
Is Turkey now officially an islamic state?
>>62152563
Bunu tanısam nolur amk He man'deki iskeletor gibi suratı var.
>>62152565
>forced to welcome
no such thing.
>>62152547
I hope it will, but deep down I know it'll only do the opposite. It'll only increase the strength of the pro-erdoganists. We're royally fucked. My eyes are filled with tears, I finally thought today was the day we were being rescued from his regime.
>>62152581
Erdoğan Caliphate desu
>>62152568
>>62152565
this is an extremely poor planned coup, fuck this shit. how can 98% of the military not back up the 2% with the steel balls?
turkey is fucked forever
>>62152581
Yes expect a jihad against greece soon
>>62150619
Ama o bardak gotumuze girecek.
Is there anything happening outside of Istanbul/Ankara? Are people on the streets?
>>62152610
i'm so sorry
is it already over?
is it the first time a coup y the army fail? it used to work in the 70's and 90's
Darbe ilan edildiğinde saat 23.00'tü. Sadece Ankara ve İstanbul'da hareketlenme oldu. İnternet kesilmedi, elektrikler kesilmedi, sokağa çıkma yasağı bile resmen ilan edilmedi. Yine "paralel"lerden bahsedildi. Zamansız ezan ve selâ okundu. Demokrasiden dem vuruldu, tüm siyasi partiler bir oldu.
Böyle darbe olmaz. Asker böyle pes etmez.
Türkiye'ye bir "darbe aşısı" yapıldı.
Vücut nasıl ki bir tanımadığı bir virüsle karşılaşmasın diye aşı yapılıyorsa, bu yapılan da odur. Vatandaş artık darbeye karşı ne yapacağını biliyor. Sandıkta kime oy atacağını, kimi destekleyeceğini, Suriyelilerin kalıp kalmayacağını, başkanlık sistemine ne diyeceklerini biliyor...
Geleceğimiz satıldı arkadaşlar. Bu ülke, dünyada zevk-ü sefâ yaşayamayacağı kesin olan ve ahirette kıçını rahat tutmak için dünyayı cehenneme çeviren oportünist insanlar tarafından satıldı...
>>62152619
Are you retarded? This wasn't meant to succeed in the first place. It was meant to fail from the beginning to empower Erdogan. Get ready to have him become an absolute ruler and use these events as a pretext.
>>62152630
Can't wait for the Greek forces to do a carnage
>>62152619
People underestimated how much of a purge Erdogan had accomplished in the military. Also, the main reason it failed is because Erdogan was able to convince the people to get out in the streets. It was already over when that happened.
"No-fly zone over Ankara has been declared"
Well, no shit
Government sources: "Erdogan is not flying to Rome"
(pheeew)
"17 deaths in military-police skirmishes in Ankara"
Military: "New Constitution as soon as possible"
"Kose leading the military revolt"
"F-16 still flying and bombarding"
>>62152659
it failed twice in 60's
>>62152659
generals cannot into media control
>>62152563
man she's so hot, remind me of a blond turkish grill
she looks so scared :$
>>62152619
This shit was staged as american wrestling man. Erdoğan did it to take absolute power. Mark my words.
I AM BERY SORRY BUD AS ID DURNS OUD WE MUST NOW ENACD SHERRY A LAW TO PREVEND THIS FROM EBER HAPPENUNG AGAIN :DDDDDD
t. erdogran
if erdogan lands safely is it over?
Neyse bi kaç seneye bir tane daha ihtilal olur.
>>62152337
How about arresting dissenting journalists and taking over the media?
It's sounds way too much like a false flag. I seriously doubt the military is THAT retarded.
>>62152710
It already is
>>62152758
What are you even implying with this?
>>62152610
Why didn't they kill erdogan?
Why don't they have airforce support?
Sounds like a coup of amateurs.
So in conclusion, nobody knows what the fuck is going on right now.
>>62152758
gulenists are that retarded. if they waited 5 more hours before commiting it, they could do it when people are asleep.
>>62152472
>I've been Italy'd
shoo shoo kebabber
>>62152788
Probably staged coup, that's why.
>>62152697
yeah media are the nerf of war, specially today where informations goes so fast.
Erdogan took back Ankara or not yet?
>>62152720
Umarım gerçeği olur bu sefer.
>>62152806
>gulenists are that retarded.
What exactly are gulenists?
>>62152701
so that's why they didn't shot erdogan from the sky.
I think it's the only explanation.
Why coup and not kill erdogan?
It's a falseflag operation.
Coup failed?
>>62152516
They flooded Istanbul. Don't you know this? They are *from* the east, but they don't originally come from Istanbul.
>>62152846
It is he's doing it to get absolute power. Coups are literally the worst nightmare of turks.
>>62152806
>if they waited 5 more hours before commiting it, they could do it when people are asleep.
I don't know if they are gulenists, but this is true, kek
Any moron could at least read up on how a fucking coup is staged. Greek intelligence agencies knew about the potential coup and military mobilisation at late lunch-time, this was seriously retarded.
>>62152745
Well as you can see today, there are a lot of people in Turkey that try to destabilize it. I don't understand this western meme where "media is holy". Media has a lot of power and a lot of times they lie or stir shit up. They weren't arrested for no reason.
>>62152610
Fuck. I feel for you. Turkey is a great place, it has a lot of potential, you could assume such a pivotal role in trade and diplomatic relations and i feel like recep is holding you back... idk i' a bit drunk, whatever happens, I hope tomorrow will bring good news.
>>62152811
Stai calma Mario :^)
>>62152842
oh USA.
Please why are you allways so bad informed and yet you want to be envolved everywhere...
>>62152794
Such is power of false information. I actually find this extremely interesting as lesson of information chaos.
>>62152903
SHOO
H
O
O
>>62152906
looks like he's genuinely curious, no need to be a dick about it
>>62152894
>I can't understand this western meme of freedom of the press
>they can't have been arrested for no reason!
Aye okay, so Erdogan's a fascist and fascism's cool, is what you're saying.
>>62152936
:^)
Bir milletvekili olmus diye duydum ama teyit edilmemis. Tiyatro oynamak icin biraz fazla degil mi bu?
>>62152989
Freedom of press doesn't mean freedom to stir shit up and spread misinformation.
I wish media here was regulated more and punished if it was proven that what they report is a lie. I'm very sad to say this but I've learned that humans are fucking sheep. They will accept anything the media says as a fact. Like the media is their holy book or something. Really cringeworthy.
I hate this country
>>62151613
Turks are humans anon, it's quite simple. They refuse to care as long as their own meager existence isn't threatened, just as every other group of people in history.
They're comfortable, and the government tries to keep it that way, so as long as the government only does sketchy shit that they can't see, they get away with it.
>>62151862
Turkish Kurds are fucked, they fell to the same shit every other group that's been fucked has
"Lol if the government keeps us kind of okay we'll just be quiet enough to not cause any real harm to the system"
>>62153096
Have you ever read Onora O’Neill?
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/laws/law-ethics/research/papers/onoraoneil_annual_lecture_2012
>>62152936
nOoooOOooOOOoOO
>>62152975
I know.
I allways imagine it's people like him that send troops into MENA and choose the sides to support in Afghanistan or MENA.
And USA has this history of choosing the wrong sides in these conflicts.
>>62152842
Gülen is a islamist living in Pensylvania. He created a network of ambitioned Turks inside of Turkey. The deal is basically: You be a good example(of a muslim) and we get you in a good position or even help you to learn and study if you are young.
These network infiltrated Schools, univerities, Police, justice system, administration and militarry.
The helped the islamistic party AKP and Erdogan to get into power.
They out maneuvered the Kemalists who controlled Intelligence, militarry, administration, Justice, police &c. before.
Then when AKP was in power he didn't want to share it with the Gülen movement. They are in war now, for sometime.
It's basically Government vs everything that makes a state work....
>>62153096
I actually understand well what you mean. I see the same thing in Norway. I don't think the news are lying here, but it's clear that they have their ways to swing people's opinion with how they write their articles. They take too much sides in politics instead of writing objectively. I can almost always see what the newspaper want the readers to believe based on the headlines and so on when there is some political stuff going on. It's disturbing.
That being said, it's a lot more scary to have a government controlling the media.
soooo
a staged coup, huh?
>>62153096
>freedom of the press doesn't mean freedom to disagree with or present ANY information which is contrary to the viewpoint of Erdogan
Fixed.
>>62153336
Why do people keep saying this? Why do people believe this?
>>62153336
Yep, it's all over ;_;
>>62153336
Probably. They can weed out seculars in military now
>>62153336
Can't decide if staged or incompetence
according to /pol/ and liveumap CNN Turk studio is taken over by military and Turkish army chief of general staff Hulusi Akar is rescued after being held hostage
http://turkey.liveuamap.com/
it's not over yet
>>62153336
if it's worse planned and executed than you as a civilian would have done it...
It is staged or Turkish militarry is a realy dumb part of the turkish population..
>>62153394
Occam's razor
Probably incompetence
Most small scale coup attempts fail at first, remember
>>62153394
Could be both
The police, i guess, has not been warned at all intentionally (the casualties to add some "truth")
>>62153464
That is really cold blooded but unfortunately I can't say that our government is not capable of such shit
>>62153436
Occam's razor only really works when reality is logical, which it seldom is.
The soldier's are still taking over live tv stations by the way
>>62153511
You lads practically invented this kind of shit.
>>62153234
No but seems interesting.
>>62153304
It shouldn't be government controlled obviously. But there should be laws that if a report is proven false there should be consequences. I'm sick of reading things that are false. The media should be after the truth. Not their own agenda.
Sincearly
im sorry for turkish people,
the religion blinds the big picture
my people (Ukraine) kinda experienced the same, but without the religious factor
Some updates before I'm going to sleep
>Jets possibly just tried to bomb Taksim Square - or at least buzz it closely - as police fired at the planes with small arms fire
>Large explosion hits near Turkish parliament in Ankara
>Airstrike on Turkish Grand National Assembly
>Scene on CNN Turk, where presenter says soldiers landed copter in grounds and entered their building
>Cheers as soldiers leave the center of Taksim Square in Istanbul
>Soldiers storming CNN Turk studio right now
>Soldiers storm Turkish Satellite TV Administration in Ankara (controlling all TV channels).
>Doğan Media Center: a group of soldiers has entered the building
>Mastermind of Erdoğan's presidential election campaign, Erol Olçak and his 16-year-old son killed by coup soldiers on Bosphorus bridge
it's far from over, goodnight lads
>>62153643
Turk in italy here you moved to Italy permanently ukranian bro?
>>62153734
i was here for like 10 years already, i plan to remain, study, university...you know..
but still don't know about the future, Ukraine is extremle unstable, corrupted and stuff...
but im a patriot,
i do not disown my own nationality
i hope in a better future, without a russian incursion and influence
but we need wait some decades, to make this happen
>>62153926
I am currently doing my masters here but shit like this make me wanna say fuck it and stay permanently. Whatever happens hope our countries will get more stable in the future. I wish you all the best bro
>>62153926
You make nothing happen.
You are like those Nazis who went working for the USA after the war.
You only help yourself while you disown your country.
Why not become Italian right away so you at least don't abandon your country in it's darkest hour...as your country would then be Italy.
>>62154107
heyyy :^)
>>62154107
The Turkish guy here as you know perfectly well from Turks in Germany people don't just disown their country or identity. I am in Italy but I follow Turkish news much more than my friends living there and I am not nationalistic or anything it just happens it's hard to explain. But I agree that one should integrate himself in his country fully and respect said countrys rules
>>62153643
>Ukraine
>>62153734
>Turk
Get the fuck off from Italy.
Really. None of you are welcome.
>>62154813
>>>SAlveeeneeEEEeeEEEEEEEEEeEEeEeeeeeeeeeee
>>62154813
Nobody cares what you think unfortunately :^)
>>62154869
>>62154874
>Nobody cares
I care, and I'm a citizen of my country. Get the fuck off.
>>62155086
Aside from trolling why are you bothered so much by educated people wanting to contribute to your country? Are you racist? I am not muslim if that is your problem. Just curious
>>62155215
>educated
Not per my standards, plus your culture is not compatible with ours. And we're full already.
We
Are
Full
Get. The. Fuck. Out. You are NOT welcome. You never were welcome. And you know it, if you're "educated".
>>62155348
and I'll just add: an Egyptian is 100x times more welcome than a fucking T*rk - and that's saying something, considering we've some beef with Egypt now.
>>62155348
reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
im insulted and frustrated
thanks renzie
>>62155414
Don't make this about yourself, filthy shitskin. Don't try to overcompensate for your subhumannes by shitting on us. Nobody cares about you or your country for that matter, just shut the fuck up.
>>62155348
>>62155414
Well if you consider your own universities shit then sorry I'll come back with a diploma from USA or smth then
>>62155525
I don't fucking care about you and your opinion is less than worthless.
Just stay there, and call back your roaches.
>>62155550
Please do.
>>62155550
>come back
no, don't. Go to USA "or smth" and stay there.
>>62155579
Comunque sembri un terrone desu senpai. I won't argue with you anymore the coup is more exciting to watch
>>62155618
Tutto tranne che terrone, mille anni luci lontano dall'essere terrone. Il colpo di stato è fallito, non c'è nulla da guardare.
>>62155652
There is still some action on live stream ma sei troppo illuminata per capire la lingua turca un po subhuman per te . Meno male gli italiani non sono testa di cazzo come te. Ciao senpai
>>62155738
Any Italian giving you the impression you were welcome absolutely lied to you. This hurts your feelings? Your "education" should have allowed you to guess you were not welcome. You are not welcome and you will never be welcome, my dear educated roach. Deal with it and move to Germany or "smth".
>action on live stream
The roach vs roach killing spree is already up, nothing more to see.
>>62155986
Scusami, ma ti chiami Keksimus Maximus?
Credo che potresti rappresentare l'average red neck americano, sai?
Purtroppo confido ancora che sei un ruse-man.
>>62155986
I don't think every italian I met so far has been an edgelord with personality disorder (meno male) and no honestly it doesn't hurt my feelings at all my NEET friend.
>>62156040
He is denying ma e un terrone (nothing against southerners just the mentality)
>>62156040
>>62156159
>southerner
Sono a Milano (e il mio cognome non è Brambilla ma ci va vicino) e quei quattro stronzi t*rchi (e anche ucraini, ma sono veramente due di numero) che vengono "a studiare" sono giustamente costantemente vessati. Siete insopportabili.
Non so cosa pretendi di studiare qua da noi, so per certo che nessuno ti vuole e qualunque impressione positiva pensi di aver raccolto è in assoluto falsa. Perfino un siriano e un libanese sono stati accolti positivamente in università, ma un cazzo di t*rco mai.
Vattene.
>>62156224
hey Edgie, do you post often in the almighty DEGRADOLAND XD?
You look so eadgyyyy an sooo coooool
>>62156224
I don't care where you are from I just said terrone to trigger you desu . Have you even met a Turkish guy other than buying a kebab when you are drunk? Why do you hate Ukranians also? You seem really edgy I am not a refugee in your country
>>62156367
>I am not a refugee
If you were a refugee, you'd be much more welcome.
>Have you even met
You were supposed to know hpw to read Italian, my dear "educated" cockroach.
>kebab
Not even in a thousand years.
Now, gtfo
You're literally the worst possible "migrants" from all other EU Continent + Northern Africa. Remove yourself
>>62156454
Well then your wish may come true depending on how the coup goes I'll make sure to enjoy your tax money as wellfare senpai :^)
Also you're right don't eat kebab in Italy fa schifo
Ciao anon hope your edginess passes one day and you'll be happy se no fottiti
>>62156454
Aside from the memes
You enjoy triggering 2 persone in croce just for shits&giggles?
Or you actually one of these with a stable income "daddy's monnies xP" and blame the migrants on a serious note?
Because you would be a waste of brain matter.
>>62156572
>>62156595
Get out already. I don't fucking care about what you roaches have to say, like, at all.
>>62156595
I don't even know why I took him seriously and replied this much desu secondo me e annoiato e e stato troppo al /pol/
>>62156657
You get out I am listening to the news wtf are you doing arguing with me at 4.25? You have nothing better to do?
>>62156693
Jerk off to sara tommasi
>>62156718
Well then good for you rub one out maybe you'll calm down. Her porn was kinda shitty though
>>62156786
Agree
Stai sul gruppo IIC per caso?
>>62156802
Gruppo IIC? Cos'e? Googled but didn't get a result
>>62156845
Irreverent Italian Community
un po' di cringe qua e la', ma avvolte nascono discussioni interessanti
>>62156865
Sinceramente non so molto bene memes e internet in italiano . My italian is still not perfect and I get lazy and stick to English forse devo almeno seguire filo italiano qua ma non capisco un cazzo di meme italiani. Fammi un favore spiegami almeno questo "e lui o non e lui meme"
>>62156925
>e lui o non e lui meme
it's kinda a tv show "meme", it's related to "Ezio Greggio"
>>62157037
Yeah I reverse searched the image and all and found that name and they mentioned also a book etc but since I don't know the context or the cultural references it doesn't make sense magari in futuro ma grazie
Comunque anon tu facevi una sega non ti disturbo piu guarda anche un video di Valentina Nappi ciao buonanotte
