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ah yes
old >>62134353
tri moreta
RIP Turkey
>>62139673
UBI
>>62140284
HRVATA
>>62139673
>how_to_fix_balkans.jpg
>>62140399
ŠIPTAR
>>62140468
NEMA
>>62140468
NEMA
>>62139673
veri yes
>>62140569
>>62140345
By enlarging the land held by Albanian roachbabies?
I thought better of you Croats. I truly did.
>serve
Military(?) coup in Turkey
Wtf
mmmm she's so thick and juicy lads
>>62140774
the land is already filled with them anyways
Shqips can be okay when you get used to their small brains
the hell is happening to turkey
>>62141573
A military coup
where is effendi?
>>62141573
Military coup
>Army blockades the two bridges across the Bosporus
>Army seizes military HQ and holds leader hostage
>Turkish PM declares army is leasing a mutiny
>Videos show jets flying low over Ankara, helicopters opening fire in Istanbul and tanks moving down highways
>Rumours of parliamentary/government officials being seized and held hostage
>helicopter firing
https://mobile.twitter.com/bm21_grad/status/754051534086897664
>>62143061
is that a good or a bad thing? I'm not that knowledgeable on turkish politics
>>62143430
No idea.
keep effendi safe!!!
>I am home now but my family works in supermarket and I rushed to get them to home. People were tryting to get bread and cigs. They had to close the doors but customers tried to get in and I neary punched a sucker out of anger. Crowd intervened. People are pretty much in panic t b h but I have no idea of what's really happeninf. It is all news now but people from Ankara keeps saying that they hear gunfires. Anyway, not a comfy position t b h.
>btw Greeks please one of you post in /balk/ that I am safe. I saw lots of posts about my safety. Keep them informed. I am safe at home.
t. Eiffendel t b h
>>62148395
Hope he'll be safe.
>>62140443
>>62140541
God bless Martin Shkreli. The half-albanian half-croatian business troll.
All memes aside, hang in there effendi and stay safe.
I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about Turkish politics, but I think the military is more secular so I think it will be better for the turks in the long run.
Also, I've heard many high ranking Turkish generals are of Albanian origin. Don't quote me on that tho
Constantinople belongs to the Bulgars
Who /can'tsleepbecauseofdepression/ here
>>62157154
Hush, it's over
>>62152347
I fucked up my ship date to be honest, I went to some girl's house in upper central Wisconsin to hang out and my fucking recruiter told all the poolees to come in and choose jobs and ship off dates the night I left so I think I have to wait till fucking October for boot camp
How you doing though
Okay that's it our border with t*rkey should be sealed shut permanently, with lava pits dug around it. Nothing remotely good can crawl out of this direction anymore. Only downside will be the absence of baklavas and topkeks, but hey we'll manage.
It was a night graced by a short lived but interesting nevertheless happening
cant wait for the next one
allah akbar
habbening now
https://www.periscope.tv/w/1nAKEbvYkQXGL
>>62157766
thought it is over,who is still shooting
>>62140345
>>62139673
The rest of Macedonia needs to be annexed by Bulgaria.
https://twitter.com/EnemyWithinn/status/754156587099549697
golden
>>62157197
I'm doing well bro, what do you plan to do until October?
>leave baltimore because afraid of happening
>the coup happened in Turkey an hour after i left
WHY DOES THIS HAPPEN REEEE.
>>62157154
No, it belongs to Greece. What belongs to the Bulgars is Macedonia, landpath to the White sea and landpath to the Adriatic sea, nortern Albania.
The coup failed. Now Erdogan will be stronger than ever. Islamic republic incoming.
I think I'm gonna buy a gun.
>>62159624
why
>>62159771
So I can sleep better at night. We're going to have a Sharia next to us at this rate.
I used to think syriza voters were the biggest sheeps I knew. Oh boy was I wrong
Last night the sultan persuaded his people to go and catch (anti armor) bullets for him and addressed them via the same means he'll eventually completely censor, alongside with the remnants of anything that's being secular
I'm happy to see Balkans (and /v4/) are the only ones on Europe who won't suck it up on censorship and islamization.
I hope Effendi is fine (t b h).
>>62148395
>>62160220
he posted that on /pol/, he's banned from /int/ for some reason
never forget how the coup starte
it was an act of God
>>62140443
>>62139673
>>62140541
>>62140569
fuck this
God bless Serbia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NF4U2GC3WQ0
ova ne bilo vo moda
We should all band up and exterminate the roaches while they are weakened. Even you, Macedonia.
Remember that they have nukes and we don't.
>you lived enough to see a /balk/ without t*rks
what a time to be alove
Reminder,if you are ever to participate in a coup
Do not surrender
weee saved teh sultannn!! 111!!
>>62160791
RRRRRREEEEEE
Where do you guys stand in the wake of the possible civil war taking its place down in turkey right now?
Are you pro or against the erdogan regime?
Genuinely interested
>>62161124
>Where do you guys
right outside their door
>>62161124
>Are you pro or against the erdogan regime?
He is an Islam fanatic.
Guess where we stand.
>>62161124
Against Erdogan naturally. He's been going at a propaganda war against us for years and his foreign policy is questionable at best.
Just look at his supporters - radical islamists.
Best course of action would be for their entire country to disappear right now.
Also this >>62161168
>>62161195
>>62161206
judging from tonight's Erdoğan gainings, I hope you both realize why we've got this stupid conscription and why it's not going anywhere
Bad days for all of us, seeing that Turkey will go full Caliphate now
>>62161240
I hope things don't go bad before I do my diploma work next May. I would at least like to get my education done with before we go Nuclear.
>>62161124
>Where do you guys stand
In the right side of history
>>62161240
Building the great wall of thrace when?
>>62161282
>>62161206
>>62161195
>>62161168
Haha, you guys always have the best answers
Guess I hope you nuke them all before they come for you, then
>>62161277
any nukes in Turkey are held by NATO and can only be activated by them, nobody else
I'm saddened seeing young conscripts who followed orders to get slaughter by Erdogan's personal mob, all what those people did was to follow their orders and Erdogan has sacrificed them in order to seize more power
>>62161366
if we weren't on NATO last night it would have been the perfect chance to invade Eastern Thrace
Turkish armed forces are a joke at this point
>>62161387
>I hope you nuke them all
>>62160609
>Remember that they have nukes and we don't.
>>62161395
>any nukes in Turkey are held by NATO
*US
*most of the nukes
>>62161425
>Turkish armed forces are a joke at this point
What do you mean? Didn't the larger part of the army remain on Erdogan's side?
>>62161425
our police is better than your army.
>>62161451
I have no idea.What i am asking myself is why didn't they start by killing Erdoshit?
>>62161446
Oh, I forgot you didnt get any nukes.
Yeah, I'll correct that then, I hope you remove kebab and build the thracian wall
>>62161459
But stupider and in the support of an Islamic dictator. They should have joined the army not fight them.
>>62161425
>Turkish armed forces are a joke at this point
Only a microscopical fraction of the roach army joined the coup, don't judge by what you saw last night
And don't forget it's the 10th strongest army in the world we're talking about here
>>62161168
>>62161490
this kind of roleplay cringes the fuck out of me
>>62161459
I'm sorry neighbour but Anatolia is rightful greek clay
>>62161459
I got 20 (You)s tonight by you, thanks for giving me more islamshit
i know you're getting triggered by the fact that your own leader needed 10k cops in order to seize 5 tanks and 500 usurpers, let alone you call this as "better than the Greek army"
go back to Arabia now and stop posting here
>>62161451
>>62161470
we can't be sure, truth is thr sultan is afraid of the army and this ia why he hasn't put them on the streets
>>62161530
you are right. we don't even need police to beat greeks. civilians would be enough. you know what happened yesterday? civilians brutally butchered their own soldiers. now imagine them against christian greeks. lol.
Mehmet is triggered kek
>>62161561
those civilians?
>>62161561
why do you take things so seriously?
you should know better when something is a shitpost.Why would we invade east thrace?these cheap baits are for facebook kids.
>>62161561
>He is happy that his compatriots resemble the angry mob at C&C: Generals
Chilling here where there are no military coups and dictatorships, just bad bitches and chocolate
>>62161561
You mean the soldiers that gave up and disarmed themselves? This is more like a documentary. Here is what i've learned from it. Never surrender to a roach. Fight to your last breath. Roaches are subhuman fanatics.
>>62161592
God, I didnt know things were getting that harsh down there.
The very day after that nizza stuff in france
I hope things didnt get worse in europe from now on
>>62161635
Oh man, now I have to reinstall it again.
>>62161673
it not a big deal fαm the Balkans are a happening free zone desu
Just woke up.
What is happening? Erdogan killed them all?
>>62161723
Some are still holding out.
>>62161608
>why do you take things so seriously?
because you clearly can't see all turks have grown with a certain mentality that won't allow them go further than being an semi-secular islamic shithole who won only 2 wars in the past 100 years (and with one of them being against tourists and farmers in a small 800k populated island)
If Greece and Bulgaria wanted it, Eastern Thrace would belong to us. And in such occurrence, the Turks would have to chose between Thrace and the uprising of Kurds. But thankfully we don't have that way of thinking
>>62161673
those things don't happen in the Balkans, we've been past that
monkey business is reserved for the "glorious" turkish army and "democracy"
at this very moment, erdogan is parading naked the very same people he has tasked to defeat the kurds, their Gendarmerie. Speaks volumes of what kind of person he is
>>62161777
Why wasn't the whole army involved! GOD DAMMIT!
BREAKING: instigator of the potential coup in Ankara is rumored to be the infamous militant Köksal Baba.
SO I TOLD KÖKSAL BABA TO START A MILITARY COUP AND OVERTHROW THE ERDOGAN REGIME AND HE ACTUALLY DID IT THE MADMAN
>>62161916
>>62161938
>inb4 t*rks saying "lmao balkshit even koksal could invade you with his fake gun lmao fucking losers 1453 stambul!!1!!"
last night was an eye opener who those who consider Turkey as something powerful and unbeatable
>>62161913
Erdo purged the army a few years earlier, jailed a bunch of generals.
It looks like the tank corps attempted the coup while the Air Force remained loyalist.
>>62161807
Do you guys think erdogan will eventually call for some martial law measures after he gets the situation under control once again?
I mean, if he does that it could be devastating in multiple ways
>>62161962
Fucking hell. We are going to have muslim dictator as a neighbor. FUCKING HELL!!!
>>62161962
>Air Force remained loyalist.
there are still coup planes in the sky last I heard, and they were not neutralized so I don't know about that
good thing is, you can't easily replace a pilot with a durkadurka retard.
>>62161980
>Do you guys think erdogan will eventually call for some martial law measures after he gets the situation under control once again?
no, he'll be doing what he has started 13 years ago: pushing for "reforms" and kicking out kemalists (aka seculars) from the army and replacing them with his minions like the ones you saw in the Police
this is why he militarized the police forces during the past years, had something like tonight's events occur: and it worked fine for him
Where is Erdogan? They must kill him before all is lost!!!
>>62162025
From what I read, the coup guys had a helicopter and the F-16s shot it down. Then they bombed the tank blockade in front of the presidential palace.
http://www.emirates247.com/news/video-military-helicopter-used-by-coup-shot-down-in-ankara-2016-07-16-1.635861
>>62162097
Its over anon
Why is everyone worried about erdogan staying in power? Their people voted the guy in, he's got majority and they want islam. If conservative turkey is the majority and they feel making an islamic comeback is the right measure for turkey's survival, who gives a shit.
I agree it's kind of weird one guy accumulated so much power he had the ability to stop their entire military in 2 hours.
>>62162332
we dont want for neighbor an islamic dictatorship state
>>62162332
>Why is everyone worried about erdogan staying in power?
>Their people voted the guy in, he's got majority and they want islam. If conservative turkey is the majority and they feel making an islamic comeback is the right measure for turkey's survival, who gives a shit.
>I agree it's kind of weird one guy accumulated so much power
good you answer your own questions. And guess what, nobody in the regions wants an shitlslamic neottomanist state like the one Erdogan is being slowly creating
>>62162332
It was a pretty small part of the military and they didnt want to shoot a bunch of unarmed civilians.
So some of them surrendered and got murdered by said unarmed civilians. The highest ranking officer that has been arrested so far is a Rear Admiral which is equivalent to Brigadier General I think.
>>62162360
>>62162405
You don't want it but they do , this is the reality of the situation. Did you wake up one day and forget you're bordering the fucking middle east? Because you are. Turkey was never european, it's stupid to expect them to act like it.
>>62162458
a secular turkey is a better thing than an islamist turkey, lad. I know what I'm bordering, I prefer the lesser evil though
>>62162410
Ataturk is a meme. You can only surpress the natural state of turkish society (islamic adherent) for so long, they'll just shift between different degrees of the same thing. They're the same enemy at full sharia law as they are with a non-religious regime.
>>62162509
A secular Turkey will most likely be stronger though. Islamist Turkey is likely to turn out like one of the Gulf States that have endless money and still cant field a half-decent military.
>>62162515
Islamist Turkey is more likely to try and pull a Crimea on us.
>>62162544
A secular Turkey will most likely want to join EU They will do whatever EU says and stop acting like islamists
>>62162635
The EU will never let them in. Nobody wants an EU border with Iraq and afterwar Syria.
This military coup in Turkey got me wondering. If the Turkish police can beat the Turkish army, what would happen here?
Our police is twice the number of our army, and sees more action. I am pretty certain the Bulgarian army can't beat the Bulgarian police.
Whats the case for your cunt?
>>62162544
I don't think you understand what's happened exactly, coup d'etats in turkey aren't like the average ones we see around the world (the military trying to take over and control the country), they're kemalists who are sworn to defend the country from islamist and reinstate secularism.
last nights events meant that Erdogan has successfully cucked the very foundation that his own country was built upon. He literally has armed men to defend his reign, not the country's sovereignty
ultimately, this is very bad news for all of us. We don't want that to happen but it did
>>62162700
the British supported them just to crash the union, they knew it'd be that disasterous
>>62162751
we don't have that problem
>>62162700
Yeah, the EU will never let them in, but I guess he ----> >>62162635 was trying to say is a secular turkey would be more likely to act as the EU says they should act instead of just chimp out around their neighbours out of islamic related reasons
>>62162751
It depends. If you can somehow get the tank batallion from Sliven to Sofia without anybody noticing it can be done, the police isnt really equipped to deal with that. Thats also the reason Gorna Banya tank brigade no longer exists.
>>62162752
Of course its bad for us. But its even worse for Turkey itself.
>>62162700
many countries officialy support turkey's entrance to eu
i know we do.Possibly bulgaria does too
we want a secular and stable democratic turkey instead of an islamic country
the most fierce oppopents were/are france and germany(?) i think.France is on the top of the list anyway
>>62162864
that's why it'd be prudent for any young (secular atheist) Turk person to leave that country asap
Turkey is aiming towards Arabia instead of europe and that's horrid news for everybody, mostly them
for a nation divided into 3 parts, I don't know how they still hold
>>62162876
Yeah, mostly the PIIGS for some reason. The last Greek position on record is negative though:
In November 2009 Greek President Karolos >Papoulias stated that he would not support Turkey's accession "as long as Ankara behaves as an occupying force in Cyprus."[190]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union#Official_points_of_view
>>62162956
check here
>>62162963
>Nah he's been the same guy for the past 14 years. But the more power he gains the more islamic he looks to Europe , because Europe fears a powerful Turkey
>because Europe fears a powerful Turkey
>they think becoming caliphate will make them actually powerful
nobody sane would vote for a nation that thinks like that
>>62162956
president of democracy is powerless
We support their entrance to eu
Turkey doesn't recognise cyprus republic,a eu member,let aside the occupation in the north
but if they have to join eu,they will have to recognise cyprus too.And implement many reforms eu demands,in all the sectors.Most important in human rights.That's why we must not abandon the secular turkey and their attempt to join EU.It will make them more civilised and stable.
>be a conscript in Turkey
>sworn to defend your country from all dangers, including falling back to islamism
>be called in a coup
>face the Erdogan's minions
>decline to assault them and kill your own compatriots
>you end up dead for chosing not to assault those you sworn to protect
this is the biggest tragedy in my opinion. The mothers and the families of the soldiers who happened to be on the wrong side of this
>>62163166
how did these guys die?
strangled?
>>62163197
probably
seeing those pics make me sad, they didn't deserve this ending
>>62163197
Armed soldiers thought the people would support them, didn't expect they'd have to fight. They didn't want to shoot at unarmed civilians, so they got swarmed and trampled and choked to death. A few were thrown from the bridge.
ey provincie
This is why, regardless how big it is, I don't have respect from armies which consist of brown people. Brown people are spoiled and not ready to fight when shits get serious. Leaving the barracks and then not shooting, what do you expect?
Do you think things will get even worse in the near future? I mean, now there's nothing able to stop erdogan's new approaches regarding to his ambitions to seize power and etc
>>62163527
Yes. The last bastion defending non-islamist Turkey has been destroyed.
You can laugh at me but I think Turkey itself will split apart after some time.
>>62163567
Ottoman Empire when?
Its in our best interest that t*rkey becomes a shithole desu.
>>62163567
I think so too.
>>62162953
As you can see here, this blue part didn't vote for Erdogan (although I wouldn't know how good the 'blue guy' is), so I guess that they're the 'democratic' secular part.
That part will likely secede, and good on them. That part is also where most of the 'white' Turks are. The balkan rapebabies. There's been talk that there's around 11mil Turks with Serbian blood, or Serbian/Greek. If that's true, that's a huge amount of people. We and Greece could possibly 'rehabilitate them' and make them Christian again.
>>62163567
It's very plausible they could break apart, I mean, this time they're the ones removing kebab by themselves
Or maybe erdogan gets to genocide the curds and keep it down if he gets to push some new press related reforms, he surelly will take over the media and wont allow anybody to contradict him from now on, so I believe he will profit from this current madness and will eventually change things around for the worse
>>62163567
I don't think they will split,real life is not 4chan.
But they will become more conservative and more authoritarian.And Erdogan will be a stronger sultan.
>>62163567
>yfw turkey demands Kardzhali next year
What you guys forget is, ok the coup failed, but if it was a fraction of the army, where was the rest, the loyal army? Only saying we aren't it is what their support for Erdogan is? And notice, after time, when it became clear soldiers weren't ready to shoot. Where was the loyal police? Just standing by, doing nothing. That it failed now may be also a warning shot for Erdogan. I know Turks from Turkey that moved here, they are from cities in fact, but these people aren't islamist. They drink, they go to whores, they aren't interested in Islamic revolution, they want to play fifa and gta and be normal regular young people. Erdogan has the peasants, the poor, the majority of the young people he hasn't.
>>62163614
http://www.civis-see.org/downloads/aktivnosti/130422-promocija-FINAL-sr.pdf
There needs to be serious army meeting now here We, Greeks, Serbs, discussing some defense strategy if things get crazy.
>>62164359
>We, Greeks, Serbs
remember how that ended last time
>>62164359
Theres an exercise going on right now at Novo Selo including Serbs,Slovenians, US,us and Romanians.
Platinum lion or something.
>>62164416
Probably a drill against Russians. It's worth shit. When is there a drill against the Sultan?
>>62164359
I'm pretty sure Greek and Bulgarians ministries of Defence have already been in contact since last night, that's the most sensible way to follow
>>62163835
Kurjdali has no border with Turkey. If they want it, they'll have to steam roll part of Greece first.
>>62139673
Omfg, how much cancer in one pic
Get your shit together mali ustaše
>>62164476
Or they'll just ask for Haskovo too.
>>62162953
Le roachie argument
>muh istanbul is civilized western-like region
>still votes an islamist
>>62164476
If they want Sofia they get it too because we're a corrupt piece of shit since 1989. Vanga said 2017 we will loose south-east Bulgaria without a single shot to be fired and just then we will wake and finally be normal again.
literally not posting in a fredi thread lol
>>62164517
Regional cities are mostly populated by Bulgarians, tho. The so called "turks" are in the god forgotten villages and these are the DPS voters.
>>62164646
>le commies weren't corrupt
spot the 20yo
>cr*atians ,alb*zergs and t*rkshits taking over /balk/.
with my left arm i strangulate croatians,with my right albanians and with both my foot the turks.
Greccos, tl;dr; us
http://www.capital.gr/diethni/3141603/tourkiko-stratiotiko-elikoptero-prosgeiothike-stin-alexandroupoli
>>62164798
It is a turkish blackhawk helicopter,2 greek f 16 ''accompanied'' it to alexandroupolis airport
8 military guys,maybe high ranked,they removed their insignia
probably coup supporters
all arrested and they asked political asylum here
>>62164852
nois.
>>62164753
I don't know what they were but we had 200k men army and 1M reservists all with military training. Thousands of tanks, Scuds, hundreds of planes and artillery. And now?
>>62164786
we should put this pic in OP next time and send those filthy backstabbing tigans back where they belong
>>62164852
That's not good because they will demand you handing them out
>>62164897
yup, the rocket forces alone pretty much ensured our safety as it made the price to conquer us too costly
and they were scrapped by the orders of NATO and Turkey
>Tfw born in the balkans
>Tfw NOT greek
Why are greek demographics so perfect? Everywhere you go it's 100% greek. No albos like here and montenegro, no hungarian vojvodina fags like serbia, no turks and gypsies like bulgmania, no ethnic clusters like bosnia, no small populations like croatia and slovenia. Also strong patriotic army and the best landscapes. Greece is god tier
>>62164786
Just told a romanian that was begging in the street to fuck off this morning.
felt good
>>62139673
>crvats
>>62164922
soon brother,inshallah
>>62164852
ωπα, πήγη έχουμε;
I was expecting that to happen desu, strange it took them long enough
>>62164931
There are 1M Albanians in Greece you idiot.
>>62164897
They are also part of NATO as we are. Stop brainstorming about shit that cannot be decided by "us" and "them" only.
>>62164897
Yeah, and at that time we had no infrastructure and rampant poverty, because half the country's wealth was used to buy and repair those outdated WWII soviet tanks.
Be men Greeks, don't hand them out.
https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=el&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=el&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.antenna.gr%2Fnews%2FSociety%2Farticle%2F448800%2Ftoyrkiko-elikoptero-prosgeiothike-stin-%CE%B1%CE%BB%CE%B5%CE%BE%CE%B1%CE%BD%CE%B4%CF%81%CE%BF%CF%8D%CF%80%CE%BF%CE%BB%CE%B7&edit-text=
>>62139673
>when cros and albos mix
>prom day
>be me 173 cm manlet with 3-4 cm heels
>date is 180 cm tall
>whatcouldgowrong.jpg
>mfw she was wearing 15 cm heels
JUST
>>62165142
you got meme'd, son
was she worthy at least?
>>62165032
All of our infrastructure was built under the commies with the exception of boiko's magistrali.
>>62165218
Half the "streets" had no asphalt until the mid 90s. The country isn't just Sofia city center.
>>62165218
>boiko's magistrali.
He just finished them.
>>62164944
>inshallah
what did he mean by this
>>62165142
you have prom in albania?
nice
>>62165227
We also had almost no cars and the industry was mainly serviced by the railways. Roads werent a priority.
>>62165377
is it normal I played a little and I got bored?
I never liked pokemon desu
>>62165381
>we had no roads, we were that poor
>"well we also had no cars, so we weren't poor lol"
Nice.
>>62165197
This is her greekbro
>>62165355
No it's just a coverup for drug operations
What happend with tukey to lazy to read pls im not living in cave hehe xd
>>62165415
Of course we were poor, cant deny that. But all the major infrastructure projects were done under the commies, dams, tunnels, mountain passes, power stations, pretty much everything.
Whats are the big infrastructure projects of the last 25 years? Sofia metro, the highways, and that one tunnel that never went anywhere.
>>62165433
>tfw no qt albanian gf
>>62165411
nah, it tends to get boring after a while
>>62165474
They annexed Macedonia. Sorry to break this up for you, m8.
>>62165433
pretty nice
but why does she look... montenegrin/serb?
>>62165474
Turkey has invaded Syria and are now in control of Damascus
Hey friends, how is everyone doing today?
>>62165485
>commies were ruling Bulgaria for 45 years
>they built shit
who would have thought that, amirite?
We sended 230 soldiers to the border, top kek
>>62162876
>many countries officialy support turkey's entrance to eu
Not after this bullshit.I'll be damned if we let Islamist Turkey in.
>>62165513
Having a nice lazy day shitposting on balk and eating sweets because its too hot to go outside.
Are the happenings in Turgay over
Is Effendi dead
Please respond
>>62165500
She looks pretty albanian tbqh.Maybe you get that impression because she's very tall.Her father is a hardcore muslim,like one of those with a giant beard and 5 children.
>>62165545
lets hope so
>>62165538
A bunch of the failed coup guys escaped to Greece. I think we are expecting something like that.
>>62165485
>25 years
Utterly unfair to use this number. Between 1990 and 2002 the country was defunct, recovering from the USSR and its implications.
You can judge the last 15 years at most when making this argument.
And yes, in 45 years the commies did more than the democrats in 15 years. Not much more.
>>62165513
>Hey friends, how is everyone doing today?
Extremely depressed.
>>62165561
>Her father is a hardcore muslim,like one of those with a giant beard and 5 children.
so, a real life Adam's apple?
I admire you for your courage, especially if you're not a Muslim
>>62165538
>We sended 230 soldiers to the border, top kek
omg you need more to take Andrianoupolis desu
>>62165545
>mfw effendi supported the coup and now his boipucci is being systematically gangraped
>>62165545
Mount&Blade cancelled, the game lead designer was lynched by the mob for portraying non-muslim fighters as strong.
>>62165610
We have the benefit of BIG EUROPEAN FUNDS now. Lets hope they pick up the pace now.
>>62165538
what do you expect, faggot? Full mobilization of the army and the reserves?
>>62165638
I'm "muslim" but we don't really care about these things here.
>>62165649
We had the benefit of BIG SOVIET MARKET before, our whole industry only existed because of it. You are grasping.
>>62165544
Excellent way to spend the day
>>62165619
What bothers you, boogar?
>>62165658
ofc i expect that, this are turkroaches not normal people. We must take measures.
>>62165658
France called mobilization after Nice though.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-attacks-nice-reserves-idUSKCN0ZV26N
>>62165695
The future will show who was right I guess.
>>62165695
I am sorry to tell you this but there is no market when you don't own anything. All earnings go back to Russia. The population owns nothing. Stop pretending like you know how it was back in the day.
>>62165717
Those 200 guys are only there to greet any turkish army defectors which come here offering tanks and armored cars in exchange for asylum. We have no reason to go TOTAL WAR yet, or ever.
>>62165712
>What bothers you, boogar?
A new fully islamic and extremist nation was born next to us. There is no hope for cockroachland anymore. We need to start building a bigger wall.
>>62165772
>Stop pretending like you know how it was back in the day.
Oh the fucking ironing.
>>62165644
>Tfw Mountain Blade series has been my favorite ever since the first game came out in 2007
>Tfw we'll never see Butterlord go live because Turks can't stop chimping out
>>62165717
yea, good thing the country is not governed by underage ATAKA voters like you then.
>>62165729
France is well known of doing stupid shit through history. They were too buys pointing fingers at us, about us being unable to integrate our minorities and human rights, while their minorities were becoming what they are nowadays.
So don't give me those retarded baguettes as an example of anything of value.
>>62165772
I doubt any of us three or four fags arguing here has stuided polit-economy.
Guys, do you get angry at people when they mess everything up and assume the balks are the balts and vice versa?
I mean, I can say to you that if you go to brazil and ask if they speak spanish they often do get mad at you (tried it out once, didnt work that fine)
>>62165839
Never seen somebody make that mistake. Balkans are only shortened to balk on int. Americans often believe that all of the balkans are in constant war though.
>>62165831
Lel, they intervened and told us not to forcefully assimilate gypsies because they "were the last nomad culture of europe" and didn't want to see it destroyed.
A century later they're chastising us for not integrating them and for letting them migrate to France.
>>62165822
At least it will give a reason to build up military in Bulgaria, so you will be prepared when the inevitable invasion of fyrom happens
>wake up
>no civil war in roachstan
why is life so cruel
>>62165433
dam son
>>62165513
first chill days in a while
>>62165836
I haven't but i've lived during gommunism. And unless you have taken your political exam like i had you have no idea how shit were things back then.(You know what a political exam is right?You know that everyone had to take it right?You know that if your father wasn't a party member you would be forbidden to apply to uni. right?Do i keep going?)
>>62165920
What do your gypsies do during revolutions?
>>62165772
Not him, but i'm born in 1985, kind of remember the end of 1989 more or less and remember damn good the 90's.
We were working with soviet resources producing shit-low quality stock that we "sell" back to the USSR because no normal country would ever buy anything from us.
We literally had absolutely nothing that was "ours" back then, and the fall we took after the USSR collapsed only proved that.
>inb4 but our agricultural, anon
it bankrupted epicly twice - once in the 60-70's and once in the 80's
>>62165993
Maraud.
>>62165993
They tend to get killed/pogromed. After Ceausecu got killed, some men in our village rounded up several gypsies, tied them to trees and shot them with some guns they looted from soldiers.
>>62166004
>i was 4 years old during communism, let me tell you about the economy as i remember it
kek
>>62166004
>i was 4 years old
>see how i can pull shit out of my ass
You know nothing.
>>62166004
>We were working with soviet resources producing shit-low quality stock that we "sell" back to the USSR because no normal country would ever buy anything from us.
And now were working under Western multinationals producing stock that we "sell" back to the West because we have Euromarket quotas and embargos on Russia.
>>62165433
>O sa mire me qenë shqiptar profile pic
>Euro 2016
Selak detected
>>62165914
>implying what we lack is a reason, not the money
>>62166033
Good.How many kids do they have on average and why have i never seen an old gypsie?Do they all die at 35 old?
>>62166088
Ca eshte selak?
>>62165968
Well, i was too young, cant argue with that.
>>62166119
Too many, unfortunately. They tend to make entire broods of children, like insects. Luckily they're all moving to Goymoney and Sweden, so it's all good.
Also, I dunno. They tend to age like milk and already look old by the time they turn 25.
>>62166051
>>62166067
So do you still have some social link to communism, I mean, is it still a thing on your culture? Did you inherit the manners, the mindset etc until this day? I've got russian friends and balkan friends, and they didnt seeem that close culturally, even though they both spoke slavic languages
>>62166150
I'm curious what has stopped you from genociding them all?
>>62166165
People are cynical, jaded, pessimistic, hate the government, hate power, hate success, every person who made it is instantly considered a crook, a thief, a mobster.
Communism destroyed the mindset of the masses.
>>62166051
>>62166067
nice way to read the whole post, m8s
a 4yo kid can remember what sweets/fruits is and the lack of it. Good thing you didn't say anything about the 90's when you were born (when gommies rulled us, btw)
>>62166080
at least now no one will stop you to produce shit for whoever you want. Something that was unthinkable pre-1989.
>>62166185
Because romanians are painfully docile and friendly people by nature. Wish it wasn't true, but it unfortunately is. We had so many chances to genocide them but didn't because we're thick. Even when we had an ultranationalist government, we didn't genocide them and instead purged the jews. (Who were much worse at the time, but the move was shortsighted).
Also, commies protected them a lot and gave them romanian ids and built them houses, and later west yurop forced us to give them a shitton of privileges.
>>62166200
I can imagine how it could have been.
The thing is, people in brazil seem to love the idea of communism in general. When I tell them that's not the dream they have about it, they dont seem to understand it and call me crazy because they think all europeans are super rich and there's no such things as a hard time during communism nor in europe mainland.
I have the theory that communism was a good solution for the fast industrialization eastern europe was in need by the time, but still it seems like the damage it have done to the people were not worth it.
Italy was shit too during the post war era, but things got better during the marshall years.
But I dont know, I guess the future may seem bright now that a lot of you guys are already part of the EU and a lot more are trying to get in.
Maybe you can get your things for the best
>>62166269
I see.Btw are vlachs romanians?There are tons of them in my region.They are orthodox and we also call them çoban which translates to sheepherd.
>>62166394
Je Korçar?
>>62166437
Fierak
>>62166379
New Worlders in general are retarded and have no idea what they want. I'm amazed that anyone in the area would like Socialism and Communism after what happened to Venezuela, but brazillians are a special kind of retard.
>>62166394
I presume you're talking about aromanians. They're a different ethnicity, but our languages are similar and we consider them cousins/kin of sorts. It's easy for them to get romanian citizenship because of our shared language.
>>62166379
>communism was a good solution for the fast industrialization eastern europe
Western europe did industrialize even faster, so that's not a point at all. The communism on books looks good an appealing until you try to realize it IRL.
You can read "We" by Yevgeny Zamyatin. It pretty much describes how communism will work 30 years later
so, if the rumors that Yildirim is proposing the reintroduction of death penalty, I see the 8 Turkish militaries will be granted asylum per the laws of EU
And after what we did with Ocalan in 1998, that's the honest thing to do
>>62166588
YUNNANISTAN YUNANNISTAN :DDDD
>>62166588
Who cares tbqh?Just another day in the middle east
>>62166394
>are vlachs romanians?
I'm guessing those from albania are aromanians. Vlachs is an encompassing group, romanian are vlachs, but not all vlachs are romanians. Kinda like italians, french etc who speak a romance language but are different.
>>62166588
Best thing is, those people will now be under the lights and will probably talk why did they started the coup. I really hope so, tho.
>>62166618
The language bond between romanians and aromanians is stronger than between france and italy, but yes. Vlach is a linguistic term for romance speakers.
>>62166618
Aha i get it.But what are they by blood?
>>62166488
When I get to speak to people that have higher educational standards around, they often tell me about countries like sweden and denmark, saying communism is worth it and they are role models for it.
Some friends I made around that share some redpilled ideas about it tried to explain me that those highly educated people get that sort of mindset when they get to college and start studying marxist related subjects. But I dont understand how communism would work in brazil anyways, you already mentioned what's happening now in venezuela, but they just close their eyes for it and keep looking up to the nordic kind of welfare state.
It's really crazy, I try getting out of politics around here but they love romanticizing communism by all means
GIVE THEM ASYLUM!
LET THEM BECOME GREEK CITIZENS!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
WHAT TA FUCK
>>62166666
you did it, not-Ros
here's a (You) so you can fuck off now.
>>62165433
does not look euro,more like those turks.Without make up problably look like an used whore.
>>62166666
pic related
>>62166666
Nice.
>>62166678
Educated people are much easier to indoctrinate than uneducated ones. But then again, not sure how educated a person can be if they think Sweden or Denmark are communist countries.
>>62166603
huh?
>>62166639
Turkey will pressure us but fuck them, we don't condone their shit
death penalty for such cases is only permitted on shitholes
>>62166678
i had a French colleague that said when he was younger he was part of some pro-commie movement in France. Communism was described like the way to go, progressive and shit. He dropped all that crap when he actually started reading about it.
Like i said posts ago - French people are not the sharpest tools in the shed.
>>62166707
Kys fag
>>62166728
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tvd9vruA91c
>>62166728
>Turkey will pressure us but fuck them
godspeed my greek friend
>>62166707
Why does his forefinger look like a benin?
>>62166720
>Educated people are much easier to indoctrinate than uneducated ones
Sorry for meddling into your discussion, but how can you state this?
>>62166786
The little zerg can't bear the truth it seems...
>>62166559
Sure you're right, I dont think the communist approach was better than the western one, but we have to take into account what was happening at the time:
People were hungry, the east was poor, there were the wars, the east was not as industrial as it should've been, and so on. I relate communism as a historical approach that had to be put to real efforts in order to see if that's so perfect as people often say. The results were catastrophic, and I suppose it should never be tried again. But then we get to see so many people around saying that "real communism was never tried in real life, that thing that happened around the east was leninism, etc" and keep giving different names for the same thing.
I'll write that down, I'll see if I get to read that book. Thanks for the souce, pal
>>62166786
kys.
she looks turkish .
>>62166119
because they live in shit conditions mr.genocide
>>62166665
Think of Aromanians and Daco-Romanians as Ukrainians and Russians. We were the same until direct contact was lost and our speeches drifted apart.
>>62166728
From what I read, you will "cooperate fully" with Turkey.
>>62166828
>"One reason that propaganda often works better on the educated than on the uneducated is that educated people read more, so they receive more propaganda. Another is that they're the commissars. They have jobs as agents of propaganda, and they believe it. By and large, they're part of the privileged elite, and share their interests and perceptions." - Noam Chomsky
I tend to agree with it. You've seen how many college educated people and academia are retarded feminists who believe in myths like the wage gap and that communism/socialism works. It's a lot easier to indoctrinate an educated man, if you regulate and influence what he's educated in.
>>62166665
Native balkans and/or roman settlers. Aromanians are an older race than romanians, but we're all from the eastern romance language group. The only two survivors.
LOL
http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/article/balkan-leaders-greet-president-erdogan-s-return-07-16-2016
>>62166967
Jacques Ellul's Propganda: The Formation of Men's Attitudes also talks about it.
>>62167021
what a bunch of cucks aaaaaaa
>>62166720
Yeah, I guess you're right bud
>>62166765
I believe people in south america have the same mindset, but they dont get to find the flaws of the marxist rhetorical style when they get to college as your french buddy did.
For what I've experienced, many people that have good companies and sucessfull businesses tend to have some foreign background, they just dont have that drive for entrepreneurship we would find that easily in such countries like the united states, I suppose.
Most young people I asked around if they have ever thought about having their own businesses and their own thing they usually say they hope working for a huge multinational company or just working for the government
>>62167147
No government will ever condone a coup lel. Its like the taliban condoning anti-terrorist operations.
>>62166786
Mos ki merak vëlla, më ha mëndja që ky është dhiet vjeç, ose dyzet pa dashnore
>>62166957
yes, but only for returning their military equipment
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jul/15/turkey-coup-attempt-military-gunfire-ankara?page=with:block-578a019be4b073c22786c8ee#block-578a019be4b073c22786c8ee
we can't send people who might get executed back there
>>62166855
thing is, we were as industrialized (even better in some sphere) as the west before the war. Bulgaria had airplane building industry and had air forces before big countries like Germany and France had.
When the war broke and after we lost (tho technically we should be on the winning side after we flip the coin and fought for the fucking soviets against Germany) we were literally beheaded by the new regime - killing all the Bulgarian intellectuals, disbanding the private businesses, collecting the people's possessions like land and livestock, etc.
Overall, rapid changes in the political scene are always destructible even if the changes are for the good (and communism wasn't even for the good)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYdRuJcig-c
why bulgarians dont find them funny
>>62167016
>Aromanians are an older race
Sorry to burst your bubble but Aromanian split from Proto-Romanian(străromâna). Neither group is older.
>>62166855
But we were getting there without communism. Only russia was in the shitter and, like they are to do, tried to spread around and justify "a worker's union" to annex their neighbors again.
>>62167291
Latin presence in the balkans and dinarics is older than in the carpathians, was my point.
>>62167292
Shouldn't have joined the Axis.
>see /balk/ thread
>it's a shitfest
Every time lmao
>>62167237
Eh,its only 1 Blackhawk.
>>62167328
Yes, but proto-Romanian was unified at that point, so culturally neither is older.
>>62167335
It's not my fault Carol 2 and Horia Sima were retarded.
>>62167188
the latter probably haha
>>62167374
>fight for muh Moldova
>end with same borders and without Cadrilater
>become Soviet puppet
If we joined the Allies we might've had a border on Tisa.
>>62167425
Ifs, buts and maybes. It doesn't matter now. We play the hand we're dealt.
Hi, balk. Im not effendi
>>62167504
then what is your name?
>>62167243
>>62167291
Yeah, some countries that came out of the war as soviet union members were not that close to russia by any means, I mean, we can get a grasp about it if we look at hungary that at the time was getting better and better and I believe the other countries down south must have been at the same pace, but history happened and you guys had to to be "occupied" by the soviet army during the "efforts of war".
I feel a little bit sad about what happened in poland, by the way. I see no objection on what wrong doings have been done to you guys during the few decades communism was still a thing for you
hey plebs, see this? yeah thats right, im officially the god of the swaglord fanclub, jealous? you should be
>>62167521
im your effendi too you can call me that
>>62167547
Where are the sarmas
>>62167567
I haven't eaten one in months too. Here have this pic
>>62167616
>So I told effendi to eat shit
>and he actually did it the absolute madman
>>62167525
Poor Poland received new land and a shitton of aid from both the west and soviets and they objectively had it the best of all warsaw pact countries. But because they bitch the hardest, they get the most attention, while the rest of us are left in the dust with worse atrocities committed to us.
>>62167237
reminder it is the very same ergenekon and deep state guys who planned provocations against us numerous times ,started fires in greek island forests,planned an assasination of the patriarch,all for the sake of a greek turkish war to divert their society and establish their power.
I say we either throw the fuckers in the aegean in honour of the little children that died cause of the turkish mafia trafficking state OR we send them back asap wishing turkish government executes them
All in all,FUCK THEM.It is not a normal situation of political refugees,it is coup plotters.
>>62167727
Of course things were bad for you, I mean, during stalin times he have almost destroyed the entire population of ukraine. The thing is that in the west we dont learn that much about the soviet bloc (at least in italy), and I cant say that much about what happened to you guys.
I've been to romania once, I believe I told here on /balk/ yesterday I have a friend living in cluj, it's a very nice place. But I know you're all hardworking people and communism wasnt been fair to you at all. Regarding to poland, I would say that the baltics are the guys that complain the most about communism. Poland had their thing because they were divided during occupation, but the baltics keep saying they are nordic countries and just cant stand the past they had under russian rule
>>62167773
Daily reminder that we gave asylum to your failed commie coup plotters.
why you never surender guys
>>62168040
i wish we burned them with napalm before they made it out
>>62168091
is this what happened in turkey?
>>62168150
anyway, I expected the police to deal with them, feels bad to see the civilians attacking their soldiers like roaches
>>62168150
yes,you missed the night happening
>>62165433
post more
>>62168237
The police was disarmed by the army, and they were pro-Erdodong anyway
>>62165433
How many cows do I need to give to her clan to marry her?
>>62165142
>>62165433
kek manlet
its obvious she needs a real tall serb :)
Hey guys, I've read death penalty may be reintroduced for the plotters.
Around 161 people died in turkey yesterday and 17 police officers were killed by a military helicopter.
Here's the source
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/16/turkey-coup-president-erdogan-says-military-elements-guilty-of-t/
>real coup by secularists
>coup by Gulenists (Islamists)
>false flag by Erdogan
what really happened?
>>62168669
My wager is on falseflag. Erdogan seemed way too giddy about it and not at all concerned.
>>62168669
>>62168689
lol,obv you are not the smartest people.
If it was a staged they would not say that it was not a coup or that the coup has failed right at the beginning of it.
>>62166678
>sweden and denmark, saying communism is worth it and they are role models for it
those countries are socialist, not communist, huge difference, they're also full of oil money
>>62168840
They also can afford to be socialist because they have a shitton of wealth from oil and capitalism, and not being sapped by communists.
>>62168828
are you stupid? they got what they wanted, they will purge the military, lots of old judges are already removed, etc etc... it's not important what they said if they won and did what they (erdogan) planed.
>>62168828
No, you're an idiot. It was all way too pathetic to be a proper turkish military coup, and now Erdogan has the approval of the population to completely purge the military of any secular general or officer that can oppose him and force through any "reform" that'll give him more power.
>>62168840
>>62168887
Yeah, but the nordic model just wouldnt fit in south america, I mean, look at venezuela right now.
I believe things worked for a while up north because they were already rich when they started trying this out, but we are to expect them to low their standards in the next couple of years (as they're already doing due to the amount of people they have imported for living off their benefits)
>>62168887
That's what I said lad.
>>62168938
>>62169013
what more could you do when you got hundreds of thousands in streets brainwashed to attack your military while erdogan alrdy took power of the rest of the militia whihc was the biggest party .
The strike had to be fast and make erdogan lose all credibility towards his loyal generals hence why it failed.
>>62164375
>declare war on your enemies before you tell your generals of your intensions
>>62164375
It's a different thing. Vs the common opponent we have always fought side by side. Just after...well...
>>62169175
It's fake, no way the guy can fly to Istanbul whilst it's unclear whether airforce takes part in it and helicopters of the so called junta fly around. Fake fake fake
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