How does the rich live in Russia?
I want to see the contrast from the poorest to the richest desu.
>>62122454
mee too
>>62122454
Google historical centres of big cities.
It's like any big cities nowadays. The rich live in the metro with $6,000 apartments. The poor live on the outskirts or the suburbs.
>>62122454
P*tin's Russia must cease to exist.
>>62126797
Are you poor?
They all live abroad actually
>>62126950
not really
but not rich
>>62122454
Their favorite place is West of Moscow in a region called Rublevka. But many also live in big apartments in downtown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE_3u5hh5s
Millionaires live in more simplistic places:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EX6BmsyxVvk
This is an apartment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7E8_YWasQeE
>>62128230
Looks kinda like American suburbs.
>>62128230
That kind of looks lame.
Russians can't seem to do "rich" right at first glance.
>>62127131
Yeah
they are the white people of London and Berlin basically
>>62128462
How is that lame?
>>62128296
Yes. Pavlovo-1 in particular has a region where it's made to look exactly like an American suburb.
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>>62129095
>>62128230
but unlike the US only 0.000000000001% of Russians live in such suburbs
>>62129286
Welcome to Capitalism.
The quicker you adapt to it, the better.
>>62122454
Just look at the pictures of oligarch-children on instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/richrussiankids/
It's probably just because Russia is a larger country with inevitably more assholes, but to me it seems like Norwegian rich kids are a lot less obnoxious than Russian ones.
>>62129750
or the faster you get rid of it the better
>>62130695
because thats worked for you in the past..
>>62131110
are you trying to be ironic?
anyway that really worked
>>62131394
>>62128573
Crash. Vulgar. Unattractive flatlands environment. Everybody is squeezed together into the same backyard. Literally McMansion tier, aping well to do middle class American sensibilities, which actually rich Americans wouldn't be caught dead emulating themselves. I wouldn't think "wow, this person is rich" walking into one of these, I'd think "wow, this person is trying too hard to appear to be rich".
>>62131626
are we talking about Russia or Korea, bobby?
is posting pictures all you can say?
>>62122454
My house is considered wvery rich, pic related. Notice that it's a red brick which is considered expensive
>>62131910
The north is Communist, a system you want, the south is Capitalistic, a system you dont want.
Can you tell me which system works? Which doesnt? Take a look at the picture again and tell us that.
>>62131975
Its ugly as shit
not saying that koreans have any taste for architecture
>>62131983
I just wish that the politicians do not have plundered the country
>>62130413
More than half of them are Jews, Azerbaijanis, Armenians and Georgians.
Actual wealthy Russians aren't tacky like that.
>>62130695
I would be ok with it, if most of them weren't churka scum.
>>62132015
post average Korean house. I'm going to work in Korea, hope to find a husbandu there and settle down. It's a better country than Russia, right?
>>62132054
Most people live in huge appartment complex
Im talking sets for 5-15 appartment towers
>>62132190
so do most of people live in commieblocks?
>>62131975
Red brick houses are middle class. Any Russian with a decent job can buy one.
Unlike the Rublevkas where only a truly successful(corrupt or not) person can afford.
>>62132239
>Any Russian with a decent job can buy one.
Not really. My parents built that house because they got lots of money in 90s by bringing clothes from Turkey and China and selling them here. Nobody with a "decent" job (unless they make their own business) could buy such big house.
>>62132225
ye we love our commie blocks
>>62131983
I never said I want system like in NK, in fact it's not close to soviet system at all with the exception of being called "communist".
>>62132373
lol no
>>62128230
Oh, cool.
OP here. I left the thread because nobody answered the first hour. Nice to see that someone posted.
Do you have more of this? If you are in this thread anymore?
>>62130413
Norwegian rich kids are seen as obnoxious by "common" norwegians, often because the common norwegians don't know them and have different expectations than reality. In any case, compared to other countries I think rich kids in Norway are still very much bound to the epic Janteloven.
t. spoiled rich kid who never got any problems with attitude and such because of money.
>>62134629
> Norwegian rich kids are seen as obnoxious by "common" norwegians
Really? I don't have any preconceptions of Norwegian rich kids. They seem to blend in fairly well, in my opinion. I doubt I could tell the difference between a middle class person and a rich person just by talking to them.
How rich are you/your parents?
>>62135323
Well, depends how rich we're talking. The children of the billionaires live in completely different "worlds" one could say, even tho they don't seem like it if you see them on the street.
But what I'm talking about is more the attitude of common people towards them. You know, someone from a normal working class family will have their own ideas about "rich kids" here in norway, and when they see them in the street or in a party or whatever, they will immediately judge them as obnoxious just because they think they "must be". But as I said, it's not really the case, the jantelov is a strong current even in the rich community. This is also seen by what kind of houses the rich are living in here, you could compare them to the homes of rich americans and you'd see a big difference. The houses of a rich family oftentimes look as though they're just upper-middle class. Pic related is an example of houses resided by some of the richest people in Oslo. But these houses are nothing compared to a rich american.
I don't know how much my family has, I'm guesstimating in total including properties about 50-70 mill nok, so not filthy rich.
>>62135879
does class exist in Norway? I thought everyone was equally rich
>>62135971
They are not communists.
>>62122454
http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=1476214&page=5
>>62136198
>>62135971
"Everyone" is equally very comfortable in Norway, that's true.
But you have some 4000 Norwegians with a yearly salary 5million or more (or ~500 000 british £). Then you of course have billionaires whose income cannot be seen as a salary.
You could say we have a very small upper-class in other words.
Our "underclass",is very comfortable and should not be seen as "poor" by anyone else than Norwegians, because we would speak in relative terms to our own society, not the rest of the world's society.
So yeah, we don't really have class in Norway .. yet we do have it, just a little bit.
>>62131983
NK's problem isn't communism, it's autism.
This is the home of one of the richest people in Norway, whose property is probably the fanciest in all of Norway. And yet, as you can judge for yourself, it's very modest compared to billionaires in America for example, or billionaires all over the world really.
Keep in mind that the small houses you see beside it, is part of his property too and share an underground corridor which connects them, so it's a little bit fancy yet.
>>62136354
its both
t.OP of the pic
>>62132373
I heard that to build one it costs around 60k. Which is not much.
>>62134463
Yes, i try to keep track of these places to see what Russian constructors can do.
>>62136925
These aren't the same as Rublevka, like in the first pic?
Also, more?
>>62135879
>50-70 mill nok
More money than I will make over the entire course of my life, probably.
I guess I don't really get to socialise with obscenely rich people in daily life. I assume they study in good schools abroad, and not here with us commoners. And I assume they don't go to the same places or do the same stuff as me.
It's kind of fascinating how we live in parallel with completely different concerns and goals.
>>62135971
Yes, class exists. There are poor people who struggle making ends meet, and there are people who can live in luxury for generations without having to work. There probably are very few people, if any, who are starving, though. We have a safety net in place to help people who fall out of the system.
>>62132190
Korean Commieblocks are scary
And those 10m tall numbers on the houses are scary too
>>62135879
>50-70 mill nok
>not filthy rich
Norway is like a completely different world, isn't it
Capitalism is disgusting if you ask me.
>>62137377
this.
reasons for your disgust:
go
>>62137419
1.I feel envy
2.It sucks at mobilization when you need to forget about profit for some moment to achieve something more important, viable sometimes.
3.I feel jealous.
4.It's unfair.
>>62137135
>I assume they study in good schools abroad
That's exactly what they do, and they jetset a lot and see the world, anytime of the year with no concerns, in private planes.
>>62137553
1&3 are the same but understandable ;)
>its unfair
life is unfair. utopia will never exist
>it sucks at mobilization
like.. saving the environment?
>>62137111
For Russians, anything in Western part of Moscow suburbs is Rublevka.
The one with the biggest houses are: Agalarov Estate and Millennium Park, i think.
Barvikha is where most of the celebrities live.
>>62128230
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pE_3u5hh5s
stupid driver spotted at 2:20
>>62137813
>Life is unfair
Human can be fair though and we should be
>saving the environment
Anything-rushing to the space for example.
>>62132407
why would people want to live in one of those souless hellhole is beyond me. Probably the collectivist nature of Asians which punish individuality. As a country which is very anticommunist it's very ironic how korea seems to espouse the thing theyre fighting againts
>>62131394
why aren't you as rich as the other first world nations if you have a continent spanning country?
>>62129286
>>62129095
It's nice to see that the american middle class live like russian kings.
>>62122454
My dad left communism (he's Serbian) and you Ivans wanna rebuild it?
No wonder Slavs were the niggers of Europe before Europe started having niggers.
>>62138502
How does size of our tundra and swamps whould help us to be rich?
>>62138370
>their life is full of shit as much as your life is
It absolutely is not. Interest on their fortune is more than I will ever make working a regular job.
They can live incredibly comfortably for the rest of their life without doing anything.
Do you want to say that modern Russia is better than USSR was?
>>62138589
>be polish
>people associate us with russian slav niggers
>despite the fact we spent most our life resisting them and communism
I hate society
>>62138809
>do something in your life
Amount of people that really became rich starting as middle class or below is incredibly low, statistically sayinflg it is impossible. In the same time thousands of kids of rich daddies get everything what millions of people can't own for their whole life just for being born.
>>62138809
>Your mind is pulling tricks on you
No, it isn't. Never having to work, but living an upper middle class lifestyle at the same time is the definition of a carefree life. It would be absolutely amazing, and I probably would kill for a life like that.
>Pull your shits together and do something in your life.
Like what?
>your life is shit
Compared to people with tens of millions of dollars? Yes.
>>62138559
Russian houses made out of wood or drywall are just as cheap as American houses though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyRNJB2wHpU
After you realize these houses need 50cm thick walls, triple glazing in every window and a high end heating system to survive the winter. It starts to make sense why only affluent Russians(and Azerbaijanis, Georgians, Armenians and Jews) can afford.
>>62138621
tundra's a full of resources. methane is common trapped in tundra ice and soil which give any land with tundra's vast amounts of natural gas.
>>62139296
That's not how it works. Also the fact that these tundras are in thousands km for the nnearest settlments make all this gas and oil expensive and not really profitable.
>>62139265
I dunno, those houses are pretty similar to what we live in right now and I'm only a plumber. my neighbors have the same kind of houses, 3 story houses, with brick laded walls, laminated wood foundation, expensive as fuck glass planes, ceramic tiling, etc. and considering it's in canada with the same weather in russia it seems as though we're doing okay here in the west.
I went to visit my cousin in houston texas, he has a HUGE house, his occupation is software dev and his place is massive! he even complains to me about feeling like a toady when his house is twice the size of my house.
>>62139480
and? I do believe one of the biggest sources of methane right now lies in the ocean floor, If capitalist nations are capable of making individuals successfully brave impressive amounts of pressure underwater for natural gas. Russia could easily do that with just mining ice or shoveling dirt.
>>62139296
gotta agree with russia on this one, leaf.
they have a bunch of useless land that isnt profitable
>>62136925
First decent picture of Russia I see in my life. Its fucking sad...
>>62138816
It's ok Poland, some of us get it.
>>62139967
>>62140624
Yeah total fucking shit
>>62138589
the quran is not allowed to touch the ground
>>62140818
>Of coarse you would know, kraut
>>62139645
I'm really happy for you. But in places like Krasnodar everyone can afford houses like these. It's just that the square meter in Moscow is one of the most expensive on earth.
>>62139967
Green can make all the difference.
Mongol General Sergey Shoygu's house.
Flyover his house:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUP25ZtjmP4
>>62137553
This is why Americans hate socialism/communism. This sense of entitlement is disgusting to us.
>>62128296
No it doesn't
>>62140684
>>62131975
>red brick which is considered expensive
Really? Even favelas here are with those
>>62135879
>6m usd
>Not rich
Pfffffft Fuck u
>>62150791
*are made
>>62126338
Isn't it the opposite in America?
Downtown in mid sized cities was pretty shady when I've been there but the small towns on the outsides and the suburbs were nicer.
>>62138198
well said tBh
>>62128230
Nice yards faggots
>>62150273
fairness and justice are the very foundation of progress, capitalists only do anything for profit
thiefs alot of you
>>62153840
Taking away people's money is fairness and justice? Third Worlders a lot of you
>>62153048
It is big, you can't deny that.
>>62138492
They are heavily associated with communism because they did it a lot but it's just a way to present the situation
HEre the commie blocks are all built by giant corporations who get sweet special deals from the government to develop the economic activity of the area. All of it financed through a massive amount of loans and they hope the economic activity that will come from the population increase will increase the value of the land so they can flip it to another giant corporation
So i'd say its pretty damn capitalistic
>>62122454
Google 'Honka Russia'
also 'thief in law' https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeDmg7FSh9I
>>62150974
Sort of. Downtown proper is where you find expensive condos, typically. But in the same/just outside those areas you quickly run into the ghettos/homeless
It's interesting how much discrepancy exists between a few blocks.
>>62159807
>Honka
http://zagorod.ru/u/gallery/orig/ed605ba5c26bc5e4.jpg
>>62159807
>Thief in law
>the mafia boss is a Georgian
What's with brown people and doing crimes.
>>62159869
South Caucasians are natural born organized criminals
kill yourself dick sucking monkey serb. russia is a third world country and nothing willl change that.
>>62132054
>Korean house
Pic related is unironically the house where I lived when I was there
>>62160018
looks nice. can't wait to eat all those sushis.
>>62150974
Depends on the city. In the 80's and 90's any big shitty was basically a crime-ridden shit-hole since all the industrial jobs dried up in the 70's and anybody who could gtfo of there. But now, the only really major cities that are still shit entirely are Philadelphia, Baltimore, Chicago and rust belt cities, the rest have been gentrified pretty thoroughly. Now poor areas tend to be on the peripheries of big cities due to being priced out.
>>62132190
A Korean girl told me she wished she had a yard. She was really jealous that I did...
since most Koreans don't have "houses"
How much would something like this cost?
Here it's about 580k USD
>>62160081
Even when they do they don't have yards. The houses that exist are closer to the japanese model of individual house and have no/almost no garden
Unless they live in the countryside of course
What are some sunny and relatively-cheap places in Russia to live in?
I'm live in fucking Syberia at the moment and need constant sunlight because of certain skin condition.
>>62160081
It will cost like at least a million dollar to build an american 1000 sq ft house in a place that are barely within 1hr (by that I mean commute time during lots of traffics and shit) car commute from Seoul. With that much, it is easy to buy a 2000 sq ft condo w/in like 20 min commute by public transportation (subway)
>>62160127
yeah if you have that kind of money to drop you can get really modern condos in recently built towers
If the complex is big enough the tower might have everything you need in the first few floors
>>62128462
That's what all noveau riche are like, regardless of culture.
>>62160108
Here you could build something like that for 30k-60k, depending on square meters. The average building price is like 300 eur per square meter all inclusive. In burger I think that's like 330 usd per 10 square feet. The land is a bit more expensive but not by a lot, unless it's in some elite neighberhood where construction costs pale in comparison to land price.
This is the same in bulgaria, serbia, all the balkan cunts and turkey.
>>62160159
This. I kinda know cuz my parents considered moving to Pangyo to build a single family house but that amount money can buy literally a penthouse that are larger and with some decent 'yard'. I suppose they will just end up visiting my house later (I will earn quite good income after several years) if they were to ever want experience some huge yard and shit
>>62160119
Yeah, in rural Busan even I saw some recently-built, modern-looking houses...but even they were really close to each other.
I love living in the commieblock.
Average russkiy will buy luxury car rather than new house.
>>62160317
rural area around Busan* is what I mean
>>62160366
>>62160317
Must be somewhere around Kimhae or Yangsan. Pusan ppl drive like Floridans. One of the worst drivers in Korea
>>62160406
Agreed
And they never wear their seatbelts either, not even to their children. Only the driver because that's the only legal obligation
it's your fucking child m8 what the FUCK
>>62160459
>>62160406
I had to get in a taxi in Busan as my literal first experience in the country
went ahead and made peace with my life because I was certain I was gonna die
>>62160331
What is it like living in a commieblock? What's the layout like? How much space do you have?
>>62160459
Tell smth more about the life in sout Korea. Is it easy to exchange dollars for a foreigner?
Can you put money on your Russian credit card from Korea?
What kind of rosette do you have?
How's the mentality of Koreans?
Are karaoke bars popular?
>>62160506
It is really cozy and comfy. Me now living in Canada has really shown me the difference between lifestyles, as I feel a sort of discomfort in larger Canadian homes, and a nostalgic longing for my home childhood commieblock
>>62160523
>life in sout Korea.
>Is it easy to exchange dollars for a foreigner?
Yes. Doubt if that's the case for ruble
>Can you put money on your Russian credit card from Korea?
Eh idk. Chinese can use their Unionpay shit but not sure about Russian shit
>What kind of rosette do you have?
rosette? elaborate?
>How's the mentality of Koreans?
Jew but with more anger
>Are karaoke bars popular?
one of the few things that relieves stress from Korean hectic life
>>62160690
>rosette? elaborate?
He probably means electrical socket type
>>62160523
>Is it easy to exchange dollars for a foreigner?
You mean like at the currency exchange shops ? Yeah there's plenty of those although people try to avoid them because they charge high rates.
>Can you put money on your Russian credit card from Korea?
Russian credit card from korea ? What do you mean ? If your credit card works abroad then sure you can come and use it to pay in Korea. Typically you don't want to do that because of fees and you don't know what exchange rate they're going to charge you with (but some credit cards specialize in that I think)
>What kind of rosette do you have?
Not sure what that means. if you mean the socket type it's same standard as europe and 100% compatible with them.
>How's the mentality of Koreans?
Very busy I dont know what to say actually lol
>Are karaoke bars popular?
Yes very. But if you look for a place called "Karaoke" here you might get a surprise because those tend to be more prostitute oriented. We just call them Noraebang
>>62160718
http://www.thearrivalstore.com/media//Korean_plug_type_f.png
link related then. Also Koreans use 220V.
>>62160740
>Also Koreans use 220V.
So the sameplug , but only a lower voltage, as we currently are busy going from 230V to 240V
>>62131394
>>62160690
>rosette? elaborate?
this thing, they're different in each country.
>>62160506
In early 50s-60s houses were weird plannings and not enough space for average family.
80s-till nowadays houses are same as typical europoor ones. Most russians live in 2-3 room apartments with 50-70m2 living space.
>>62160738
>Russian credit card from korea ? What do you mean ?
I mean can I use ATM to put my dollars on my Russian card which is in dollars? Not to pay.
>>62160738
>Yes very. But if you look for a place called "Karaoke" here you might get a surprise because those tend to be more prostitute oriented. We just call them Noraebang
Tell me more pls. What do you mean are they like brothels? Do they fuck girls right in those karaoke bars?? How much does it cost?
>>62160123
please respond
>Go to Japan
>outlets are the same
>Go to Korea
>ugly dumb Euro outlets that require an adapter
I know who our real ally is ;-;
>>62160123
go to solarium
>>62160870
kek, your outlets are awful.
>>62160123
Astrakhan, Volgograd, Chernozemie
>>62161000
thanks
>>62122454
Well, the most poor russians can live two ways:
1. The poorest russians (except for the homeless):
Live in the villages in the bad, old, small houses, sheds in fact. Without water supply, sewerage. They plant vegetable gardens, drink vodka a lot, do criminal stuff. They are uneducated and seldom have a regular job.
2. Poor russians. They live in small apartaments in the towns and cities. Have regular job. They can buy on salary enough food, get credit for household appliances and almost nothing more. By the way, they have their own appartaments as a rool, but in this case they may live in it the whole big family. Their education may be bad or very good, with a high cultural level.
>>62160123
Пcкoвcкaя oблacть?
Look at here - http://ozernui.ru - fucking 40, 50 acres(4000 sqaure meters or 0.4 hectares) lawn in ebautiful places are sold in price of 150 000 - 350 000 rubles.
Is it joke or trap?
>>62163568
4 гeктapa. мoжнo дaчy(БOЯХCКOE ПAMECTЬE ПOБAХATOMУ) пocтpoить и фepмy eщё и нa фyтбoльнoe пoлe ocтaнeтcя
>>62163633
УЧACTOК У OЗEPA AЛE (22 COTКИ)
cлeд.
6 000 pyб./coткa
132 000 pyб.
Плoщaдь: 22 coтки
Элeктpичecтвo: ecть
Ближaйший нaceлeнный пyнкт: 40 км
Oзepo: Aлe
Oтдaлeннocть oт гopoдa: 55 км
>>62163715
40 coтoк
>>62132541
>it's not close to soviet system
Except it is, but with a boosted cult of personality.
