>Wake up
>You are now the president of Turkey
>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>Armenian Genocide denial
>>Kurds
>>Relations with Russia
>>Cyprus
>>EU
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
what and how do?
>>56413077
>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>Armenian Genocide denial
I give armenians the north east of turkey
>>Kurds
I give them independence
>>Relations with Russia
I join the eurasian union
>>Cyprus
I give them the whole island
>>EU
I stop demanding to enter
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
I give them more parts of the country
>>56413077
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Recognize it as a genocide, but create an earmark agency that combats Armenian lobbies portraying it like the Holocaust. Make sure it holds no sway in politics anymore.
>>Kurds
Give them a state with less clay then what they claim for, encourage K*rds to move there from Turkey.
>>Relations with Russia
Move to Russia's sphere of influence.
>>Cyprus
Annex whole island.
>>EU
Press for atleast limited membership, really just economically.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
annex :^)
>>56413077
>armenian geno denial
Dont give a fuck
>kurds
Genocide the commie ones, trade the muslim ones with turkmens from syria/iraq/iran
>relation with russia
Dont give a fuck
>cyprus
Federal cyprus without ugly british fucks
>eu
Built a wall, stop everything btw us. Except magyar bros
>armenia greece
put them in terror-supporter state list with usa, germany, france.
>>56413175
Please be realistic senpai
No one gives away free clay
>>56413737
>>56413743
b-but how?
>>56413872
>be propoganda center of pkk in europe
>"how?"
Good thing you are 2nd base of isis now, which you totally deserved it
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide denial
What genocide?
>Kurds
I'm sure I'll figure out a fine ol' solution.
>Relations with Russia
Invite Putin over for drinks and cigars, make up with him, draw up a new Molotov-Ribbentrop pact for the balkans.
>Cyprus
Rename it "New Crimea" in honor of my new best friend.
>EU
Ask for Merkelbucks, leave as soon as I get it.
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Who?
>>56413743
erdogan plz go
>>Armenian Genocide denial
>>Kurds
>>Relations with Russia
>>Cyprus
>>EU
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Nuke Turkey
>>56413077
1. Stop denying
2. Make Kurdistan an autonomous entity that is still linked to Turkey.
3, Snuggle close with US
4. End North Cyprus meme, it's fucking stupid and no one is buying into your shit. Gives you credibility in the eyes of the world
5, Don't bother with it
6. Can begin repairing them once above things have happened.
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide
Never happened
>Kurds
Urban legend, there are just Mountain Turks
>Relations with Russia
Stellar
>Cyprus
Already our rightful clay, as long as the world knows that is enough
>EU
Will fall tomorrow, inshallah
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
There are no such countries
>>56414266
>implying erdocuck would do any of them
He is socialst agent
>>56413077
>Wake up
I woke up
>You are now the president of Turkey
Man, oh man
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Continued. Armenians rose in arms, funded by foreign governments, against a war weakened empire. It was a classic civil war scenario where everyone played dirty. Most of the "direct" crime was done locally as well, Kurds and Armenians (earlier Circassians as well). The Ottoman government did a lot of wrong to Armenians since forever, and a hundred years Armenians pleaded foreign governments to intervene, but no one did. Treaty after treaty was discarded. This is what the West gets, this is how they wanted it. Turkey is not the Ottoman Empire as well
>>Kurds
Work on scattering them through aggressive economic measures (infrastructural development, schools, jobs). Fines for parents not sending children to schools, deploy military in hot zones, disarm the entire region through draconic gun laws, open the borders towards Europe, anywhere else and let them go there (surely Turks will be lost in the process, but it's for stability), stun their natality by immediately introducing Sex ed class, financing contraceptives and plan B pills (appeal to women in a westernized fashion, because financing condoms won't stop male K*rts) in Turkish schools (this is how you conquer the men - conquer the women first)
>>Relations with Russia
Keep it neutral, not cordial, not unfriendly, for economy's sake
>>Cyprus
Work on
>>EU
Integrate economically, forget about diplomatic and political integrations. Turkey doesn't belong in the European union, but the Turkish products do, and EU will help raise industrial standard for Turkish products, making the country more competitive
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Amiable. Work on acquisition of healthy sectors of Greek economy, divert Armenia from Russian interests, work on making them dependent on the Turkish market (and subsequently imports)
>>56414488
are you autistic
he's a criminal as it is
>>56414817
Forgot to finish Cyprus
>Cyprus
Don't let North Cyprus go. It's an imperative to acquire Cyprus, place it under Turkish eyes. It has a strong economy, thanks to its tourism and banking but there are other sectors which Turkey can "undermine" through good relations and import. Acquisitions, acquisitions
>>56414882
>spanish media
He is literally cucked by terrorists so he is bombing them because he is butthurt
>>56413077
>>Wake up
>>You are now the president of Turkey
>>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>>Armenian Genocide denial
Keep denying
>>>Kurds
Genocide and deny
>>>Relations with Russia
Make nice
>>>Cyprus
Is mine
>>>EU
Cuck club not for me
>>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Make nice
>>56414817
very good
Shoot down a Russian plane. That'll sure fix some problems.
At least that is cockroach logic.
>>56413077
>cut rlation with everone
>Autarky liberal economy
>ban immigration, allow emigration
>death penalty
>stronk military for possibility of being invaded
>problem solved forever
>>56414979
if he's bombing them how is he cucked by them
i'm not spanish i just live here and don't watch tv or read the papers
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide
"ok, we admit armenian genocide but you have your own country now - we cool"
>Kurds
"you are now equal rights with turks, however Sami people do OK without their own country so you can do fine without your own country but you can have discounts in our grocery stores"
>Relations with Russia
"sorry russia you were right we were being dicks can we just be friends and play xbox again ok cool"
>Cyprus
"reunify both countries and remove borders - just don't fight again guys let's be buddies"
>EU
"hmm well you let us in eurovision it's up to you guys really we're really muslim so we're kinda like the middle east too so it might not work out, but im sure its not a big deal either way"
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
"let's just stop fighting we have our own countries now - why do we fight"
FUCKING SIMPLE
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide denial
armenian 'genocide'
more like a spring cleaning
>Kurds
since they good bois supported by europeans,
send them to europe.
>Relations with Russia
if they keep financing kurds,finance chechens and churkas in general
if they stop it,try and strengthen a possible friendship
>Cyprus
annex whole island
>EU
open borders lol
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
1-Armenia is objectively a shithole that would starve if not for Russian and diasporal help
2-Greece could be bro-tier if they didnt hate us passionately,try strengthening the relationship
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide denial
Kill any Armenians that claim Turks killed Armenians.
>Kurds
The dead can't ask for independance
>Relations with Russia
Russia is a lot more chill about genocide than the EU. Pay for a new jet hat in hand, let it be the start of a long and prosperous friendship.
>Cyprus
Annex it during WWIII, until then, leave as is.
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
See >>Cyprus
>>56414817
Pretty fucking good except for the Kurds part. It won't work, nothing works.
>>56415030
This is how I'd solve Israeli-Palestine situation. Ground troops in hot zones, gun laws that skew the statistics towards Jews (permits as obstacles education/social situation wise - but no religious requirements (on paper, of course), to disallow any finger pointing) economic manipulation of Muslim regions and when you stun them, you begin to integrate them. Then they are the most willing
But, concessions need to happen on Israeli side, just extending the finger, instead of the arm. This is how you incorporate willing Muslims, make them abandon "Palestinian" identity. "De-religion" the state of Israel. Opt out from the strong Jewish identity for a strong "Israeli" identity
And blabla
>>56414817
Excellent desu senpai
>armenian genocide denial
Keep believing in the truth that it did not happen , state in the world media that there are no proofs. And pay to Russia so she could keep her dogs from barking
>kurds
Seperate good ones from bad ones by founding a big department from stratch just for this one.
Offer good ones shit and genocide the rest
>relations with russia
It'll recover by itself like it always does
>>Cyprus
Buy it , if it doesn't want make up a fake genocide on cypriot turks and annex the island
>EU
keep on touch with the union , do not join it whatever happens but do try to get visa free travel as my people wants
>relations with armenia and greece
literally who
>>56415314
It always happened. It can happen. It needs an aggressive policy and a free for all market approach. The demand will solve the rest (scaled towards ~57 million Turks in Turkey, rather than their minorities)
>>56415113
>make deal ith pkk to get kurish votess
>pkk supply weapons in cities
>elections
>went "nationalist" for getting mhp votes
>kurds annoyed, didnt vote for him
>lose majority in parliament bcuz of kurds
>"i made you respected in cunt but you didnt vote for me REEEEEEE"
>starts operations against pkk for reminding kurds their place + more nationalst votes
>actually worked, got majority back in parliment after more nationalsts and kurds voted for him
>pkk butthurt of operations
>starts bombing
>erdogan still butthurt, bombing back
>his face when, his chaliphate idea wont work since he didnt get aall sunni kurds support
>mfw we turned to midd-eastern shithole bcus of his autistic action
>>56414817
>>56414924
In all seriousness this is the best possible thing for T*rkey. So don't show this to Erdogan kthxbai :^)
>>Armenian Genocide denial
be proud
>>Kurds
opress kill
>>Relations with Russia
shoot down plane fuk slavs they are dead their economy is falling and they are degenerate people kill em all
>>Cyprus
occupy whole island declare war on south take it over forcefully
>>EU
open borders sell all islamists kurds refugees in and keep trading.withdrew application
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
bomb them whenever they talk shit
turks are pretty erdogan tire
- reinstate Byzantium and the Patriarchate of Constantinople
- all politicians and bureaucrats have to be Orthodox
- remove Islam from schools
- don't allow any Türk guilt campaigns because that shit doesn't pass on to Türknoobs
This ends the Türk state and detaches the country from Türk history.
>>56415594
>Erd*gan will never hire me to be his advisor
I wrote walls of text on how-to Turkish economy and avoid the construction bubble burst as well...
>>56415804
oy vey
pretty gud sokullu
>>56413077
in respective order
>deny it harder
>bomb
>cry into your pillow
>deny it harder
>cry into your pillow
>bomb
ITT: I just summarized erdogan
>>56415874
>he thought Lala was dead
Ban alcohol and music.
Ban cars in favour of camels.
Ban women from the workplace and make them wear the veil.
Make polygamy obligatory.
Make turbans and beards obligatory for men, ban pants.
Burn all books in Latin, make Arabic the co-official language, abolish the school system in favour of madrasas.
Destroy all private computers and phones in the country.
Recognize Caliph Al-Baghdadi, invite him to Sultaniyye (my new capital) for a chat, have him strangled, reveal that I am directly descended from Mohammed, declare myself Padishah and Caliph of the [me] Dynasty.
Issue fatwa against all white people and declare jihad on the entire earth.
Have all non-Moslems in the country stoned to death.
Replace the Turkish flag with an actual scimitar. A scimitar hanging from a pole will be our new symbol.
>tfw this is already roughly what Erdogan dreams of at night
>>56414817
Noice
>>56413077
Deny
Oppress
Ruin
Occupy
Jawohl
ISIS is more useful
>>56413175
i would do the same desu
no one likes turks, if i were one i would kill myself
>>Armenian Genocide
Recognize it and give around 2 billion dollars as an apology.
>>Kurds
Give them their state since there are areas where Kurds are a Majority.
>>Russia
Give em a free aircraft as an apology.
>>North Cyprus
Keep it desu the Greek Cypriots want the Turkish Cypriots dead.
>>EU
I don't give a shit desu
>>Armenia & Greece
Eh, I don't know it's already too late.
>>56416372
Not really
>Armenia
Ignore. Or make a statue.
>Kurds
Bomb or make it a tax exception zone to make them friendly
>Russia
Ignore. Make policy to shoot down all illegal Russian army planes that did not have paperwork
>Cyprus
Make it economic zone. Ignore it. Can't be traded for anything of worth, so no selling it
>EU
Keep on scamming them. No seriously, its working fine
>Armenia and Greece
Keep on doing what is been done. Sovereign countries need to walk the talk, otherwise its not worth dealing with them.
>>56416595
>Make it economic zone. Ignore it. Can't be traded for anything of worth, so no selling it
Cyprus is worth nothing to Turkey
and everything
>>56416759
If its worth nothing, you don't give it away for free.
This is nation policy 101
Even the indians understood this, even if they did not understand value of goods
>Wake up
>You are now the president of Turkey
>Go back to sleep
Alternatively,
>>Armenian Genocide denial
What Genocide?
>>Kurds
Send to Greece/Armenia
>>Relations with Russia
Smooth things over but don't move to their sphere
>>Cyprus
Leave it for the next president
>>EU
The more they deny me access the more I lean towards Russia
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Send them Kurds and complain to the EU when they don't take them in under humanitarian reasons
But my first order of business would be to restore autocratic rule and declare Anzu as queen of Turkey
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Deny it
>>Kurds
Start operation "Ethnic cleansing"
>>Relations with Russia
Constantly violate Russian borders and shoot down another jet if they cross the border
>>Cyprus
Annex the other half
>>EU
Open borders and send all refugees to EU
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
No change
r8
>>56413077
>what and how do?
>make it illegal for women to buy televisions
>ban three-wheeled cars
>increase bribes by 5%
after that lean back, have some caj and watch the country run itself
>>56413077
>>Armenian Genocide denial
deny
>>Kurds
integration
>>Relations with Russia
"sorry"
>>Cyprus
who cares about them
>>EU
make turkey a secular state again
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
don't know about armenia but fixing relations with greece is easy
>>56416970
>>56416970
Cyprus is the second backyard of Turkey, right after Kurdish regions in Turkey (and out of Turkey), that need to be addresses immediately
Not poking into the status quo, of course. No one wants a bloody war. What Turkey needs is money, and money from its competitors, investors, money from countries that don't like Turkey are big bonuses. 170 million dollars in exports, imports fell towards ~230 million, meaning you have numbers to work on a more "self-sufficiency" plan (strong mining market, vast resources, evenly distributed economic sectors, strong tourism, textile, general electronics, all good chunks worth of orienting towards and slowing the construction (primarily housing) boom that will blow up in their face. IMMEDIATELY get on the eastern Mediterranean gas gravy train, Israel already has a dominant position there)
But first, solve the fucking inflation, T*rks, God damn it
>>56414817
Thank you.
>>56413077
>>Wake up
>>You are now the president of Turkey
>>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>>Armenian Genocide denial
Admit it happened and apologize
>>>Kurds
Give them clay and tell the crazies to get out, possibly by force, though obviously try very hard to avoid that. Maybe ask for int. support, so as not to look like repeating history.
>>>Relations with Russia
We EU now. Leave us alone.
>>>Cyprus
Give it back to Greeks.
>>>EU
Ask for a large sum of money to properly set up refugee camps and enforce the border, while stop bombing Kurds with the EU money we get under the guise of fighting ISIS. And ACTUALLY do it. Also, start cracking down on these smuggler trash profiting off the refugees. They're scum.
>>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Give back northern clay, apologize for genocide. Stop poking Greece with our military stick and give back Cypriot clay. Open Sophia to prayer. In general stop acting like a douche who thinks he's the second coming of Suleiman and start leading the nation to a modern competitive future. Also, enough with the censoring and control of the media.
Anyone admitting genocide is a fucking moron because that means you'd have to pay war reparations.
Knowing armenian jews, that's one way to kill the Turkish economy.
>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>Armenian Genocide denial
recognize as genocide, build a memorial in ankara and do a public apology for the dead.
>>Kurds
give them the regions around the syrian border, declare it free state of kurdistan and give them the opportunity to change their citizenship if they lay down their turkish ones.
Build wall afterwards
>>Relations with Russia
stall
>>Cyprus
keep up cyprus
>>EU
concentrate on inner politics and keep sending refugees until they beg me to join
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
>caring about grease
lol
>>56418134
1. You now legitimized a Armenian civil war movement.
2. You now started a possible civil war with Kurds, because they will get choked economically and their new leaders is shit
3. Good
4. Stupid, they won't pay for it
5. I agree, but they will still give free money. Might as well bomb turks and then bomb refuge boats, while building camps
6. Why would you give away free clay?
>>56413077
>>56413077
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Solution in step 2
>>Kurds
Genocide Kurds so people stop talking about Armenians
>>Relations with Russia
Try making a cordial accord where we stay out of each others zones
>>Cyprus
Support unified Cyprus based on Bosnian model of decision making
>>EU
Never stick you dick in schizophrenic
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Make deal with Georgia to close the border with Armenia
For Greece, just keep sending refuges and wait for EU to turn the country into a friendly Muslim state
>>56418889
>Genocide Kurds so people stop talking about Armenians
HOLY SHIT THIS MAN IS A GENIUS
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide
Don't accept it as fact but make it legal to talk about. Make some obscure apology
>Kurds
Allow them greater representation and make the main Kurdish language official
>Relationship with Russia
Keep telling them to fuck off.
>Cyprus
keep status quot.
>EU
Officially withdraw application
>Relationship w/ Armenia / Greece
Maintain friendly relationships with Greece, improve relationship with Armenia
There you have it, boring but realistic
>>56421189
So basically what Erdogan already tried.
>>56413077
>Wake up
Im awake
>You are now the president of Turkey
Change my name to Erdonyan
You have to find a solution ot the following:
>Armenian Genocide denial
Sign treaty of Sevres
>Kurds
Give them southeast of turkey they're mayority in that area anyway
>Relations with Russia
Let Rusia shoot down a turkiye fighter jet
>Cyprus
Give it to greece and apologize
>EU
Send more syrian refugees and demand inclusion into the union
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Sign treaty of sevres and change istambul to constantinople, should fix both relations..
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Admitt it and apologize.
>>Kurds
Fuck them
>>Relations with Russia
Try to make amends, but do not demonstrate weakness
>>Cyprus
Leave it
>>EU
Dont Join, but keep a strong relationship
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Ignore Armenia
Improve relations with greece.
>Religion
ABANDON ISLAM.
>Relations with the Middle-East
End relations.
>>56421189
its already not "illegal" to talk about armenian shit in turkey. no one arrests you because of it.
man these foreigners believe they know anything about turkey
>>56421753
hey look, a Iranian Byzaboo. . Or a Spanish Persia-boo? Idk anymore man
>>56422608
He's Armenian
>>56413077
>rename instanbul constantinopolis
>give turkey to greece
>leave laughing
>high five greekbros
>>56413077
Return The City !
>>56421753
>>Cyprus
>Put all Syrian refugees on Cyprus, then give it to greece and apologize
fixed for you
>>56415043
Lol
Just mix things up!
>>56421821
>Armenian as President of Turgay
Gee, what do we have here :^)
>Wake up
>You are now the president of Turkey
>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Admit it was Genocide and give all of Eastern Turkey to Armenia. Only to diaspora though, Soviet shits can fuck off
>>Kurds
Push them into Iraq by claiming lands are returned to Armenia. Push for a Kurdish state in Northern Syria.
>>Relations with Russia
Play careful proxy. Would ally with Armenia and Greece to change dynamic.(Very unlikely though due to pasts and N. Cyprus)
>>Cyprus
Pull out all citizens to make mends with Greece
>>EU
Allow visa free tourism. Allow accommodations for Euros. Convert to Atheism to please the EJew
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Try to make mends in order to spite Russia. Give Armenia East, Greece West. Pay reps :)
So, what is exactly the deal with the Kurd problem?
American media here suck their dicks and say they're special snowflake minority freedom fighters who dindu nuffin ever .
Turks on /int/ HATE Kurds, and many Westerners on here do as well, although not as much. They seem to be looked down upon as extremely stupid and backwards even by turkroaches, which is saying something.
>>56424819
Gypsies are preferred over Kurds, that speaks volumes.
>>56421189
What's Russia ever done to us? All I can remember is about one of their planes spotted off our coast a few months back.
>>56424819
So there is 30 million Kurds in the world.
25 of those millions live on the borders of Iran/Iraq/Turkey and Syria.
So first we need to talk about the Ottoman empire. It was huge. Then it joined WW1, and got dismantled. Then the new Arabic nations had a state of war/displeasement/ethnical crisis, and some borders was somehow drawn. With Turkey with 20% Turks.
Now, this is a issue nobody would normally give a fuck about. But Iran has a questionable place in the world society, and there is enough Kurd Diaspora(in Europa) that the people living on those borders know.
Iraq is a failed state, and it turns out Saddam did a good job.
Then Syria collapsed for the lulz.
Then it turns out Turkey did a horrible job since like the 20s, leading to a Arabic version of the IRA, since thats how things work.
Then Iraq collapsed after invasion, and whatever halfdead Kurds there was, decided it was a good time to be a National Super Terrorist in Turkey.
Then Syria collapsed, and the flames rekindled.
So basically:
1. Turkey is partially a failed state, surviving on its world positon alone
2. Turns out a fuckhuge minority will try to make its own nation if the conditions look ready
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Blame Kurds
>>Kurds
Genocide. Blame Armenia
>>Relations with Russia
Try not to piss them off unnessecarily, I'm sure we'll get along just fine.
>>Cyprus
Maintain status quo. Who cares about this shithole anyway?
>>EU
Keep getting them to give us free stuff in exchange for vague promises of keeping the refugees out.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Neither of them is relevant enough to accomplish anything on their own so who cares about what they think.
>>56422752
BROTIER
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>>56413175
>>56413737
congrats you both just destroyed turkey
>>56414817
8/10, would work
>>56413077
Turkish anon who lives abroad
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Blame Ottoman Empire
>>Kurds
Turn the state into a federal state, give them their small state and some rights like education in their mother language (most of my kurd friends said they learned Turkish in primary school), they won't have any reason for their independence war anymore, if they do you can kill them anyways, tax them hardly and don't spend money for them, let that part of the country turn into a shit hole etc.
>>Relations with Russia
Try to normalize the relations because Turkish economy has been affacted badly. Kiss Putins ass if necessary, blame the previous goverment for recklesness, throw some people in jail for downing that plane and give compensation. Fuking economy lost billions of dollars because of Russian sanctions.
>>Cyprus
Maintain status quo.
>>EU
Get more money for refugees, make a city in Syria and relocate the Syrians there, change laws again according to EU standarts, may be they won't let in EU but extarnal powers are always driving advancment and improvement in Turkey in all aspects of life.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Fuck Armenia, keep good relationship with Greece, improve cultural relations and make friends with their government, lend them money if they ask for it, it's always good to have friends with neighbors especially if they are in EU
>>56424819
they have been bombing civilians in turkey for about 30 years because we are fascist imperialists or some shit like that
they are also niggers of turkey, don't believe the 'we dindu nuffin' narrative, there is a plethora of ethnic minorities that are well integrated in turkish nation whilst keeping their culture intact in turkey and all of them hate the kurds as well
Convert everybody to Evangelical Christians or Shinto-Buddhism
>>56414817
anon, those are good solutions, you should govern Turkey man.!!!!! 10/10 vote for you
>>56414817
>Work on scattering them through aggressive economic measures (infrastructural development, schools, jobs). Fines for parents not sending children to schools, deploy military in hot zones, disarm the entire region through draconic gun laws, open the borders towards Europe, anywhere else and let them go there (surely Turks will be lost in the process, but it's for stability), stun their natality by immediately introducing Sex ed class, financing contraceptives and plan B pills (appeal to women in a westernized fashion, because financing condoms won't stop male K*rts) in Turkish schools (this is how you conquer the men - conquer the women first)
Turkish government has done this and has failed many times.
>>56426336
Turkish government has been a dick. Thats why.
Turns out Diaspora don't integrate when you are dicks to them.
>>56426512
>Turkish government has been a dick. Thats why.
Turkish government? How about blaming the incompatibility that Islam has in creating sectarianism
> Diaspora don't integrate when you are dicks to them.
Integration only happens when less Islam is applied. Meaning no Islam would make the country even better though they would turn into Greece 2.0. A better form of Christianity branching from Lutheranism ideals or questioning the authority itself
>>56426574
Here is how the real world works: Parents is shit, and then kids socialize with neighbors and things go okay.
If your terrorize parents, they won't let the kids interact with neighbors, and they will try to get together with people that don't bully them.
This applies even to the jews.
What in reality happened in Turkey is that:
1. State is shit
2. People that moved away for work integrated
3. Kurds have enough population to remain hateful
4. The entire region has been politically unstable for the entire Cold War, meaning every single large ethnic group will have insane separatist plans
>>56426795
>entire region has been politically unstable for the entire Cold War
You mean for several hundred years? Not only that but Turks do not understand worshiping Ataturk fuels the problem
>>56426962
Ottomans made the region stable for 300 years. Now they was a preindustrial empire, in a place with a lot of inland.
For preindustrial inland? 300% stable.
>>56427084
>Ottomans made the region stable for 300 years
This is some shitty Turkish media propaganda or do you believe everything muslims say?
I will never understand muslim sympathizers
>>56427174
Stable in industrial age, and stable in preindustrial age means different things.
In pre industrial there is no real state of peace, because every single local warlord can go out to pillage somewhere he is not allies with.
>>56425234
>Arabs
>Shows Turkish Sıpahi on the left
No m8
>>56427319
K
>>56426336
Gun ownership in Turkey has a completely new dimension than for example here, in the Balkans. Just because of Turkey's minorities. Obviously, Turkish lawmakers have not been doing enough
Emigration? The VISA regime, which needs to be instituted in exchange for these poor bargaining chips called migrants will accelerate the process. The minuses are, Turks are leaving as well. The pluses are, some of them might come back, qualified, and on the other hand, remittances
Military/gandermerie/police deployment, curfews and such? Not good enough. The police needs to have properly untied hands. When your own minorities bomb you in your own country, in Turkish cities, something is going terribly wrong
The Turkish government tried to control natality of its population, institute sex education, promote gynecology related tests for women (especially Kurdish women), pills and such? What Turkey are you talking about? The government's official stance on the "issue" is "have more kids, ashokrullilah!"
Gun laws to control homicide? Turkey has a pretty standard gun law, very similar to one in Croatia (except the carry policy, I believe they can carry registry weaponry, I'm yet to see someone carrying even a concealed weapon, it's just not "us"), yet people car bomb each other in the middle of the day and Diyarbakir is a literal warzone. Lax gun control is something very different from government concerted effort at gun laws (like Croatia, for example, where they find one hundred ways to fuck with you by shortening and lengthening time and increasing expenses evaluations and so on, just so the people fall through cracks and lose licenses)
But of course, it's easier to read a text, say "it's been done" because things are going down the shitter. Inform yourself, the centralist shitty government in Ankara will not do anything without fairly liberal governing policies - decentralization
>>56427413
Book: Osprey's Man-At-Arms. I think was 13th-18th century Ottomans one.
>>56427456
>Turkish lawmakers have not been doing enough
>Culture prevents that from ever happening
>Let met change the several hundred years of statues quo
> centralist shitty government
Whats with other countries and blaming the government for everything? Its a social issue
>>56413077
Realistically
Come up with a reason that modern turkey isn't responsible
>Cyprus
Open dialogue that doesn't go anywhere so it looks like I'm the peaceful one
>eu
Keep the course turkey can drain a lot of money out of the eu
>armenia
They are reliant on Russia. I could make them more friendly to me by allowing some trade.
>Greece
I Don't think there is any active problems with them atm
>>56427553
>le middle-east was always a shitty place meme
The problem with Kurds started in 1980s after government tried to forcibly assimilate them and during cold war era when PKK was a communist organisation. Nowadays they seem to be Kurdish Nationalist Socialists but the retards damaged Kurds in the area more than Turkish government did.
>>56427584
>Russia
They started it so hold my ground here
>kurds
Cultural assimilation
>>56413077
>>Armenian Genocide denial
keep on denying
>>Kurds
aggressively promote feminism and degeneracy in kurdistan. enforce turkish migration to kurdish provinces. support iraki and syrian kurds, play them against each other and against syrian and iraki government, bind them to turkey
>>Relations with Russia
let things cool down, do business
>>Cyprus
needs more muslim immigrants against racism and sexism ;)
>>EU
fuck them. go for middle eastern countries instead, incorporate them in some sort of alliance including all former ottoman empire territories dominated by turkey
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
>neutral. do not provoke them, dont take no shit either
also: relocate capital back to istanbul and introduce constitutional monarchy
>>56427553
Its sorta like Basqueland, or Catalonia.
So central government does some really stupid shit(police oppression of civilians due ethnicity, and very stupid centralization to Capital).
Basqueland is the best fucking example, because the French Basque give no fucks, because they was not oppressed.
>>56427595
>middle-east was always a shitty place meme
ME was decent place with the Sumerians
>The problem with Kurds started in 1980s
Turks are real stupid about this because the problem is several hundred years. Why did Ataturk kill so many Kurds? Because he felt like it
>>56427739
> Basqueland, or Catalonia
Spain is shit?
>police oppression of civilians due ethnicity
Give them the land and the people will start migrating to spain
>>56427794
>Turks are real stupid about this because the problem is several hundred years.
No, Kurds were never assimilated but this wasn't a problem until the state during cold war era tried to forcibly assimilated them. PKK unified the communists and separatists together thanks to oppression from state.
>Why did Ataturk kill so many Kurds? Because he felt like it
Are you legit retarded? Atatürk never killed any Kurds. What are you even talking about you fucking moron?
I swear Americans always do this let me tell you about your country bullshit without having any actual knowledge but only have heard some opinions on the internet.
>>56427794
Look. Ataturk had a illiterate preindustrial nation, with some industrial output in some cities.
And the nigger somehow fucks up integrating everyone.
Thats how much of a shithead he was.
And he set the standard.
Then some asshole decided it was a good idea to bully Kurds, during the cold war, when radicals of Communist and Capitalist ideas would get shitloads of free terror funding.
>>56427553
If you had an ounce of insight into political situations in Asia minor post Ottoman wars, you'd exactly know what I want to say with that "centralization" and since life is much more beautiful with hints, I'll help you: that same post Ottoman wars Ottoman centralization greatly shaped provincial cultures and we're all witnessing the nationalism (less surprising) and "communi-zation", for example, of K*rts due to their tribal-kinship society arrangement that nobody bothered to "solve"
>>56427844
>state during cold war era
And Ataturk didnt happen?
> Atatürk never killed any Kurds.
He gave them BJ's just because?
>>56427882
The bullying has existed since the Ottomans but want to say its recent? That's some shallow thinking
>>56427905
>tribal-kinship
And so were the Turks?
>>56427915
>And Ataturk didnt happen?
Not related to problem at hand.
>He gave them BJ's just because?
Why is it so hard for people to admit they have no clue what they are talking about?
>Armenian Genocide denial
I continue the denial so there's no possibility of them getting reparations
>Kurds
Ethnically displace them with Turks, reduce their birthrate with free contraceptives
>Relations with Russia
Stay neutral to keep the EU happy
>Cyprus
Argue for removal of the British bases and an independent Cyprus that is in actuality a puppet of Turkey
>EU
Attempt to join the EEC with guarantees we wouldn't join the Union proper or become part of Schengen
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Improve relations with Greece, ignore Armenia
>>56427936
You're confusing them with Turkmens. Turkmens are a part of the Turkish ethnic corpus, however, they differed then from the city dwellers abd your run of the mill peasant from Rumelia or Aydin...
>>56427968
Because every single Turk answers the same way
>Ataturk din duf nuffin he was a good leader very secular
>>56427915
Think of it like flyover states. Sure, most of them are shitty rednecks, and there is no real population over there, but they are sorta American.
Even with that ugly accent and lack of integration.
Now image its the cold war. And somebody had the bright idea to make the greatest redneck terror cell. So instead of dealing with said cell, the local police gets the bright idea to call in the army and then try to bully the Rednecks.
Then there is another problem: Rednecks are not one group. They are funded by like 3-4 foreign superpowers, by proxy, and they actually have no support in the local population.
But since you bully the locals instead of the niggers, you now have a problem. A huge problem.
So instead of stepping down, you are treating it like the IRA, and keep on lynching people.
Then suddenly Texas things its a great idea to succeed and USA is now in a gigantic civil war. While this is happening, the Rednecks which primarly live in one state, ally, and you get a gigantic shitstorm.
Meanwhile some other inbreed group of goatfuckers was left alone back then, so their political conspiracy was ignored, and they integrated.
This is basically the situation with Kurds.
>>56413077
>>Wake up
It is fucking 5:30am here. I woke 1 hour ago. Feels shit tbqhwuf.
>>56428017
Because they were sexing themselves with the Greeks for several hundred years. Not only that but the tribalism still exists in Turkish society
>Oh no we have bombed1
>Let bomb more kurds!
Turkish foreign policy is worse than Russia
>>56427794
>Why did Ataturk kill so many Kurds
bc they were backward and stupid even by 1920's standarts. google up sheikh said rebellion.
>>56428045
>Even with that ugly accent
Southern dialect is a direct descent to posh because websters view on language wasn't pushed...
>and there is no real population
Kurdish population is kinda huge and turks also have mixed relatives with them
>>56428066
>backward and stupid
So were the same perpetrators? Turks were also backward
>>56428066
We should have let Armenians genocide K*rds ;_;
>>56428094
>20% of population
>Huge
kek
Its like you don't even do statistics class.
20% in the middle of nowhere isn't anything. They need to live somewhere important to be huge
>>56428113
lel kamal was really naive i guess. he really thought we could educate and tame kurds. same apllies to erdogan for his first years. he thought giving their cultural rights could be enough. but no, eternal donkey fuckers living in tribes are worse than gypsies.
>>56428017
turkmens had started integrating into city life during seljuk empire. they are the people we call 'turks' today
you are thinking of yoruk turkmens, whom stayed nomadic and started switching to city life in the 17-18th century
>>56427915
you have no clue on what you are talking about do you?
during the ottomans kurds weren't a problem because they weren't so numerous, during ataturks control over turkey his few interactions with the kurds was the crushing of an islamist caliphate rebellion in the east
most of the pkk and red kurd problems come from the cold war era where turkey was purging any communistic groups within turkey to please usa
kurds had some groups like that because the state was not able to integrate them from feudal lord-serf society into the modern era, this problem grew over time into the south-east turkey today
it is getting fixed currently though, i think we are entering the last stages of the pkk problem in turkey
>>56428119
K*rtler are literally Islamified Erm*ni that have survived centuries of onslught and forced conversions ever since they were bro...I mean since they migrated from their ancient M*dian homeland
>>56428170
>he really thought we could educate and tame kurds.
He believed that he was more educated than Kurds? Even though he was the same shit with a different. It was like shit teaching shit not being shit
>>56428193
>problem because they weren't so numerous
And the Cold War these people juust magically appeared through the power of a djinn?
>>56413077
>You are now the president of Turkey
>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>Armenian Genocide denial
What genocide, literally nothing happened; we just moved some people, that's all.
>>Kurds
Sub human filth.. "relocate" them.
>>Relations with Russia
The Russian bear is old and tired, let is roar its harmless roars.
>>Cyprus
Ours. Nuff Said.
>>EU
Fairies and cheese, not important.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
The Greeks are scum, baltics are whiners. Don't worry about them.
>>56413743
there's a reason that everyone hates you guys
>>56428354
that's because we fucked their mothers and grand mothers and great-grandmothers for 500 years
>>56428193
>T*rkmens
>integrating
Alright, Celali
>>56428477
#NOTALLTURKMEN
seriously though a lot of the old families in central anatolia comes from a turkmen background
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide Denial
Keep denying
>Kurd
deport to Iraq an Syria arm them to fight ISIS, build a huge wall on the southern border
>Relations with Russia
not give a fuck
>Cyprus
Reclaim the Island for the vaterland
>EU
stop trying to join
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
pretend to negotiate
>>56428234
6-7 generations of anti biotica and sterile medication is a insane wonderdrug for population growth.
The children of Gen 1 will have children by generation 3. So 6-8 kids -> 14-18 kids -> 60-70 kids
>>56428234
>t. American
>>56429661
Also, 6-8 is a very low human estimate. Full breeder mode is 9-12 children per women.
>>56427794
I don't think Ataturk ever killed k*rds man.
>>56413077
>>>Armenian Genocide denial
Respond that this termin applies to humans
>>>Kurds
Everyone who claims to be kurd get citizenship. Then officialycall all the kurds dirty dogs.
>>>Relations with Russia
Declare war
>>>Cyprus
Move my capital there
>>>EU
Declare I am sultan of Europe. Demand tributes. Also threat to boost more immigrants.
>>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Declare war
Sit and watch what happens.
>>56429984
This sounds like a game of Empire Total War
>>56428119
You'd probably have a much better country in the long run if you did
>>56413077
Consult Koksal Baba for all important decisions
>>56413077
>>>Armenian Genocide denial
What's in the past is in the (Ottoman) past; though, it was mostly rebels being quelled with some casualties on the side.
>>>Kurds
See above (just kidding, they're getting exiled)
>>>Relations with Russia
I wouldn't be above making deals that would better the nation as I would still be looking out for the country first, but I should still act as a NATO member should as that is how we get a good chunk of military surplus from.
>>>Cyprus
Status Quo.
>>>EU
Can get fucked. Keep sending those billions of mercy Euros, while still sneaking Syrians over so I can relieve the Arab congestion that's flood the country.
>>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
It doesn't hurt to improve in any way, but remind them what's what. We should still be friendly neighbors.
>>56429984
The only one with all the right answers, so far.
>>56430500
By the way.
Is it even possible to get trade and firms moving on over to the neighboring countries of Turkey?
I edited "for economic purposes" out, because it seems a bit unlikely.
>>56413077
Admit to genocide, don't apologize.
Escort Kurds to Iraq border.
Seek to fix relations with Russia through an apology.
Withdraw all Turkish presence from Cyprus immediately.
Disassociate from EU.
Build walls around borders, offer to help stave off migrant flow through a Greek-Turk coalition.
>>56425988
>congrats you both just destroyed turkey
ain't that the point ?
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Acknowledge the Genocide. Apologize. Give protections to Christians. Defend churches with the state if necessary.
>>Kurds
Autonomy by Federation. Reorganize the country into two governments, a provincal, then a super-national. Much like how it is in the US or Germany.
>>Relations with Russia
>>Cyprus
Abandon the Turks currently in Cyprus. Evacuate if needed.
>>EU
Abandon any plans for joining the EU.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Give up clay to Armenia. Normalize relations with them.
Greece, depends on how much they're willing to fight, but as it stands, be neutral. Their islands are close, work out that Turkish NATO will fly over.
Other plans:
1.Ban Erodgan, his family, his cronies, everyone found guilty in AKP.
2. Stop the Islamization of schools.
3. Close the border with Syria except for regions which are managed by Kurds.
4. Lower election threshold of political parties from 10% to 5%
5. Restore safeguards in their military
>>56429975
>sheik sait
I just cannot understand why he didn't trade donkey-fuckers with turkmens after we lost mousul
>>56413077
>>Armenian Genocide denial
What genocide?
>>Kurds
Establish Kurdistan, Hakkari to Diyarbakir. Build a very big wall. Deport the rest of the Kurds to that place. Build a big wall.
>>Relations with Russia
It will go back to neutral over time. No need for something else.
>>Cyprus
Either annex the Turkish land, or find a solution they can unite.
>>EU
Integrate like Norway and switzerland, and thats it.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
who cares
>You are now the president of Turkey
YES
>>Armenian Genocide denial
>>Kurds
>>Relations with Russia
>>Cyprus
>>EU
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
I'd attack Russia, then sit back and watch kebab get kebabed, crimea style.
>>56413077
Invade russia
>>56424815
Gee, what do we have here :^)
>Wake up
>You are now the president of Turkey
>You have to find a solution ot the following:
>>Armenian Genocide denial
denial of what? it never happened
>>Kurds
push them to iraq, kill those who refuse to go
>>Relations with Russia
shoot another plane of them because they cant do anything anyways >muh nukes kek
>>Cyprus
invade rest of the island
>>EU
get visa-free travel, give turkish passports to syrians, push them to europe
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
who cares about armenia? try to be bro-tier with greece.
>>56433032
up until 80s there wasnt a k*rd problem at all anyways and k*rds were rebelling under the banner of religion majority of the time instead of a separate state.
>>Armenian Genocide denial
what genocide?
>>Kurds
Start a massive operation against PKK and YPG. Attack them even in Syria and Iraq.
Tell Peshmerga they won't be getting any support if they don't help us.
>>Relations with Russia
No apologizes, but compensate the family of the downed pilot and compensate for a new plane. Call it a "unfortunate incident that shouldn't have happened".
>>Cyprus
Negotiate with Greece. I am willing to give Turkish Cyprus away but only if it's completely independent and not dependent on the Greece government.
>>EU
Tell them I will take care of the refugees but I expect financial support. If they do not, blackmail them by opening the borders until they do.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Armenia is a tough one, I guess I'll try to make bonds stronger without admitting genocide. Give financial aid and help to Greece to make them actually our ally instead of having a hate-friend relationship.
>>56435992
>compensate the family of the downed pilot and compensate for a new plane. Call it a "unfortunate incident that shouldn't have happened".
cuck
>>56437549
How so? I'm basically letting Russia know not to fuck with Turkey and repairing our relationship at the same time.
>>56437581
No you're being a cuck. Russians have in the past even shot down civilian airplanes that flew over their country. Maybe if it was any other country but Russia? Nah fuck them. Also Turkey didn't even kill the pilot. Those were rebels in Syria.
>>56413077
>Armenian Genocide Denial
Get our new foreign policy minister, Based Tones to deal with the Armenians.
>Kurds
Build a wall
>Relations with Russia
Invite Vlad over for a drink
>Cyprus
Stop the boats
>EU
Keep doing what we're doing for the Schengen dole
>Relations with Armenia/Greece
Declare war on them + Serbia then leave the country to witness the removing of kebab from a distance
>>56437642
If that what it takes to save the economy, call me cuck all you want. The Russian sanctions aren't exactly helping Turkey and the market crashed by like 1% after the incident.
Multi-billion dollar projects have been canceled. Turkey is pissing their pants and afraid of bombing Syria because Russia is backing Assad.
You think it's all worth it?
>>56437885
>Turkey is pissing their pants and afraid of bombing Syria
This meme again. When did Turkey bomb Syria other then artillery strikes which still continue today?
And Turkeys economy will be fine. The Russian economy is much more fucked.
>>56438363
Turkey actually sent jets INTO Syria before this incident. Now they're bombing with artillery inside the borders because they're pissing their pants after Russia deployed some beautiful S400's
>>56438669
>Turkey actually sent jets INTO Syria before this incident
proofs?
>>56438850
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turkish_involvement_in_the_Syrian_Civil_War
>Turkish airstrikes and artillery bombing on Kurdish YPG positions in Syria.
>Turkish airstrikes on ISIL positions in Syria.
Notice how airstrikes are not happening anymore after the incident?
>>56413077
>>>Armenian Genocide denial
NATO please help!!!
>>Kurds
NATO please help!!!
>>Relations with Russia
NATO please help!!!
>>Cyprus
NATO please help!!!
>>EU
NATO please help!!!
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
NATO please help!!!
>>56438941
>Early on 24 July, three Turkish F-16 Fighting Falcons struck ISIL targets across the border from Kilis Province with smart bombs, the Turkish government announced
>across the border
You can shoot bombs at Syria with jews from within Turkish airspace. Where is the proofs that they actually flew into Syria?
>>56439023
>jews
Wtf I meant jets.
>>56434400
Yes there were in ww1 era, check "cemiyet"s
>>56413077
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Say sorry to Armenia and admit to genocide
>>Kurds
Give their rightful independence
>>Relations with Russia
Apologize for plane shot down and offer reparations
>>Cyprus
Give up on all claims and tell turkish republic of northern cyprus to fuck off
>>EU
Sign an agreement to never join the EU
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Return all rightful Greek clay.
Fixing the world one step at a time.
>>56413077
Piece of piss. It's only stupid nationalism that means most of these problems can't be fixed within 3 years.
>Armenian Genocide
Own up to it, it was a century ago and it happened. There's no point making a laughing stock out of yourself by continuing denying it. Even the Germans were forgiven.
>Kurds
Create an independent Kurdish state out of the useless waste of space in the bottom right acting as a buffer state with Iran, Iraq and Syria. Make it attractive to all Kurds to go to it and get out of the country, limiting ethnic tension and ending decades of expensive as fuck civil war.
>Relations with Russia
Just treat them like rightful shit without letting it turn into full blown war. Go more pro-EU and NATO by liberalising and acting less like a middle eastern dictatorship.
>Cyprus
Withdraw after forming a unity government with the Cypriots.
>EU
Just stop acting like shit and maybe they'd let us in of their own free will. Have to act less like roaches though so the westerners don't fear us.
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
As soon as you stop being so crazy nationalistic all other problems with these two go away. Allow Greeks to resettle on Tenedos and Imvros as a conciliatory gesture.
>>56413077
>>>Armenian Genocide denial
recognize armenian genocide and proclaim national excuses (nothing more)
>>>Kurds
Stop bombing them in Syria, and propose them a special stauts close to independance (like corsica in France)
>>>Relations with Russia
No changes
>>>Cyprus
Ask for a referendum in whole cyprus over the partition of the country or a federal state.
Will give up according to the answer
>>>EU
I stop sending them refugees in exchange for european military at my syrian border
>>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Don't give a fuck but will stop putting all my military on their borders
>>56413077
>>>Armenian Genocide denial
Deny this shit. Armenians are amongst the worst churkas.
>>>Kurds
Dunno desu, looks like they will get their clay. So, lets them have some autonomous region within the country to avoid civil war.
>>>Relations with Russia
Be friends, no h8 m8. And pay moneys to Russia as a sign of respect. And stay sorry about the jet.
>>>Cyprus
Make a big big international prison over there.
>>>EU
Import mad kurds to EU so they stay mad there, not in Turkey. Do not enter the EU.
>>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Fuck fucking Armenia,
Give greek citizens free access to Constantinope, I dunno.
>>56413077
>>Armenian Genocide denial
Accept it
>>Kurds
Send all kurds to north-Iraq
>>Relations with Russia
Change the name of Istanbul in Constantinople and convert the Hagia Sophia to a church
>>Cyprus
Let unite the two parts with each other, because Turkey amd Cyprus should be in the EU together.
>>EU
Become orthodox and make Istanbul/the capital of Turkey.
>>Relations with Armenia and Greece
Convert Hagia Sophia in a church. Recognize the Armenian genocide and make Turkey an important country for Christianity and Islam.
>>56415804
>>56414817
can you pastebin these?
much appriciated
>>56427844
>Are you legit retarded? Atatürk never killed any Kurds. What are you even talking about you fucking moron?
nigga he literally said "eşiktekini beşiktekini" in his deathbed
also my grandma hided lotsa k*rd children from turkish soldiers
>>56414817
>/int/ cheering on armenian genocide denial
Is this opposite day?
>>56413077
>You are now the president of Turkey
Try as hard as I can to get Turkey nuked
>>Armenian Genocide denial
no one left to deny it
>Kurds
no Kurds left to complain
>Relations with Russia
no longer a problem
>Cyprus
done
>EU
done
>Relations with Armenia and Greece
done
good thread mashallah
>>56415205
kurds already have the same rights as turks
>>56413077
I'd nuke my own country, that would solve all the problems
