Donald Tusk has said the EU must not let Britain profit from leaving the crumbling bloc as it could inspire other states to follow suit.
The president of the European Council said it would be "lethal" to let the UK walk away scot-free as he attempts to avoid a domino effect across the continent in the wake of Brexit.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/689086/Donald-Tusk-European-Union-referendum-Brexit-EU
>>62082530
They were always evil
He will say anything to please Merkel. Nice pic btw.
He is right. Britbongs would want to take what's the best from EU without contributing anything. Free market zone: yes, being a main banking system of Europe: yes, contributing to EU-funds: no, hosting million of Polish gastarbeiters: no. Fuck them, bitches.
>countries work together to get a really shit deal
>meanwhile some of the countries have a referendum about the EU
>they vote leave and have to have the same shit deal
Punishing Britain for something they were allowed to decide by EU constitution is weak and hypocritical
If they did something that had no precedence then maybe it is legit but this is part of the EU stipulation, It is like punishing people for the exercise of their rights
>>62083029
For now nothing really happened. Weakening of British currency was little, because UK is still EU member. That's why we should remove UK from EU as fast as possible. UK government is doing everything it can to prolong this process. If UK doesn't invoke the article 50, EU should do it for them somehow.
>>62082897
desu I think people would be fine with continuing to contribute to the EU budget, as long as it was less than before. Free movement is the real red line.
Isn't it bizarre that EU leaders say that Britain only wants to cherrypick the benefits of the EU and none of the negatives, doesn't that imply they realise the negatives of the free movement of people?
Also, how shitty must your union be if you have to try and make examples of those that leave? If the EU is so great, surely the Commission wouldn't need to act like a wifebeating husband to keep it together.
>>62083172
>Isn't it bizarre that EU leaders say that Britain only wants to cherrypick the benefits of the EU and none of the negatives
But that's the truth
>>62083204
are you incapable of reading the following sentence?
>>62083204
To make another point, if there are 'negatives' to membership as Tusk admits, why are those policies maintained? Is continental Europe just that into masochism when it comes to being dominated by Mutti?
>>62083291
He's polish
>>62083291
You can't have all rights of EU member while being outside of EU. We all are going to pay the price for your stupidity by becoming poorer.
>>62083291
>are you incapable of reading the following sentence?
I can read, you fucking retard. That's what you call a "negative" is basically a contribution being a result of consensus between all members of EU. You want to break the consensus to maximalize your own gain at expense of others. Fuck you then.
>>62083511
>You can't have all rights of EU member while being outside of E
Hence why the UK isn't interested in the vast majority of those 'rights'.
>>62083596
>Hence why the UK isn't interested in the vast majority of those 'rights'.
Yeah, so you will be deprived of these rights like mr Tusk proposes. Invoke the fucking article 50, stop being a pussy
>>62082530
>walk away scot-free
Well, you cannot change the fact that they will indeed be Scot-free.
>>62083595
>That's what you call a "negative"
It's Tusk saying it's a negative, I'm not that bothered about it personally desu.
>>62083646
>Invoke the fucking article 50, stop being a pussy
>people are nations meme
It'll happen sooner or later I'm sure, the question is does the government wait until 2017 when the UK assumes the presidency for maximum bants?
>>62083734
>or later
Nobody is going to talk to your government before it invokes the article 50. It means that you will only prolong your EU membership with all obligations it is tied to.
>>62083723
>>62083793
I know?
The argument for delaying A50 is not to negotiate with EU countries, it's much more about giving time for backroom talks with non EU countries and develop a consensus negotiating position / get the civil service apparatus in place.
>>62083595
Remind me, what does Poland pay into the EU
>>62083734
>wait until 2017 when the UK assumes the presidency for maximum bants?
Uncertainty is one of the biggest enemies of investment, I'd be surprised if the UK does that, because you'd be hurting yourselves more than the EU.
>>62083885
As much as rich Sweden
http://www.statista.com/statistics/316691/european-union-eu-budget-share-of-contributions/
>>62083895
Of course, it wasn't a serious point. However there is a general feeling that the process will take years anyway and a few months are worth the price of not rushing the process.
>>62083933
>gross figures
I mean... come on.
>>62084034
5 bln euro is less than 1% of our GDP. Greece with 4x smaller population and 2x bigger income takes more money from EU than we do. Go fuck yourself, you piece of shit. Poland can exist without EU but EU can't exist without Poland. If we went out, the whole project would go to shit and there wouldn't be any hope for it anymore.
It's funny that if Anglos had the referendum today, just around ~40% would voted to leave.
>>62083933
So four times less than the UK. And how much does Poland get from the EU?
I think it's good that the union can go back to the old agenda of ever closer union without the whiners.
I mean for fucks sake read up on all the optouts and special status shit the brits had (and still have untill they leave).
It's outrageous. I hope we see no more of that.
>>62084069
Hey pal, I'm just providing the net figures. Offered without comment.
>>62084105
See:
>>62084034
>>62084083
Source? Polls are unreliable as fuck anyway, there's a crisis in the polling industry at the moment in the UK with them failing to reach certain demographics. This isn't the first big result they got wrong.
>>62084132
This desu.
>>62084083
Nah because remain voters are still too retarded to vote
>>62082530
Actually read his speech, doesn't sound like he is talking about punishing Britain at all, it more sounds like he is saying they need to be hard with their negotiations and not bend over and let the UK fuck the EU over on their way out.
But I can see why a British news outlet would twist this to make it sound like the EU is the bad guy here.
>>62084204
>But I can see why a British news outlet would twist this to make it sound like the EU is the bad guy here.
The express is a rag.
>>62084069
>The UK are selfish bastards for wanting benefits of the EU without paying for it all (benefits which would also benefit the EU)
>Be Polish and get money for accepting the benefits of the EU (while Poland doesn't benefit anything but the cleanliness of toilets)
Wow, really makes you think
>>62084256
American stupidity is a cancer consuming this chan.
>a EU without the UK
It's sunshine after the rain.
What's so special about this?
Isn't it obvious that UK will be ass fucked?
I will enjoy the show. Finally those pool shitting Island Monkes that attack granmas with beer bottles will live in the shit they consist of.
>>62084034
>However there is a general feeling that the process will take years anyway and a few months are worth the price of not rushing the process.
Yes, this is a several-year process, you have the right to negotiations for at least 2 years, with possible longer times if agreed upon by the EU members and parliament. I just don't think the UK won't be triggering Article 50 within more than a few months, and never reaching to 2017.
I think it would be financial suicide to set it back to 2017.
All in all, I'm guessing summer will have backroom negotiations with late September/early October triggering the Article.
>>62084317
>We provided the rain
P o e t r y
>>62082530
Everybody knew long ago that the EU would make an example of us if we leave to prevent other countries from doing so.
It's not news.
>>62084376
>All in all, I'm guessing summer will have backroom negotiations with late September/early October triggering the Article.
Looks likely.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/14/new-brexit-minister-david-davis-declares-article-50-should-be-tr/
they show their true colors then, if they really just cared about being an economic union to strengthen europe they would be making good deals with the uk. But they fancy themselves a federal superstate and are willing to sacrifice europes economy in order to try and maintain power.
looks like you got out just in time. if there was an eu military they would be trying to use it. these sorts of people just care about their own power and will sacrifice everything for it.
>>62084105
the [polish gdp is worth 474.78 billion US dollars
the eu money they get is worth 12 bn Euro
poland has an average growth of 3-4% a year
this means poland gets less in money than it will grow in a year
Poland is also one of the biggest net benefactors of the EU structural funds
---------------------------------------------
EU funds are breadcrumbs and only poor uneducated britbongers can be convinced otherwise
>if a ayyy hed em 12 bilin, I'd fix da cuntree in ay day
>>62084313
American is speaking the truth.
You poles are the reason why the uk voted to leave.
You fuckers just leech of the eu and contribute nothing.
The eu should've of never given any eastern european shitholes membership.
Donald Tusk should just resign because he just mad that his people can't leech of britain.
>>62084492
>and contribute nothing.
We contribute as much as you, wacko: >>62083933
... plus a lot of more because EU drains our country from most talented and hardworking people that are worth trillions euro.
>>62084543
>We contribute as much as you, wacko
No you fucking don't because you take in more money than you contribute.
polan the eu is just hitler again. tell them to fuck off and redouble your commitment to NATO. it will keep you safe and warm. We may give you more fighter jet, they can go very high, almost to space!
>>62084543
>We contribute as much as you, wacko
>he doesn't understand the difference between net and gross figures.
I genuinely didn't think the Polish education system was this bad.
>>62084492
>You poles are the reason why the uk voted to leave.
I doubt the majority of the people who voted to leave was because of Poland or even Poles.
>>62084447
>they show their true colors then, if they really just cared about being an economic union to strengthen europe they would be making good deals with the uk. But they fancy themselves a federal superstate and are willing to sacrifice europes economy in order to try and maintain power.
Have you been living on the moon for the last 6 years? Of course they don't give a shit about economics. Look at they did to Greece. Or Portugal, Spain, Italy and Ireland.
From day 1 this is about achieving the European Superstate even at the expense of economics.
>>62084189
>Source?
It's obvious man. Everybody in Britain, as I see it, regrets for that decision. Look at Boris Johnson that like a rat disappeared after voting. Farage told about no 350 millions on health care, currency went down, and so on. No one would vote for it.
>>62084543
Then why don't you leave the EU so those Polish superstars have a harder time leaving? I mean, if you're contributing so much to the EU, and aren't getting much in return, why stay?
Anglo always see the Eu as a market when the original objectif was an EU bloc independant of USA and URSS.
De Gaule was Right, Anglo should not be tolerate in the Union.
>>62084646
no. i knew they would do this, ive just been waiting for them to do it so i could point and say "i told you so!"
>>62082530
>EU boss
lmao he's just a figurehead
Juncker is the one in charge
>>62084696
>"i told you so!"
The "I told you so!" moment was Greece years back.
>>62084649
>Source: It's obvious man.
>>62084578
That's not true. Western companies and banks installed in Poland transfer out 15x more money annually than we "take" from EU-funds. And even this money that we "take" from EU-funds comes back to German companies. Moreover, we lost few million people that are worth hundred times more than all money EU could ever "give" to us.
Maybe Poland should be a good boy of the USA and leave your organisation too to kill it without survivors?
>>62084649
>Look at Boris Johnson that like a rat disappeared after voting
Well he's been made Foreign Secretary by the new PM Theresa May, so he'll be representing the UK on the world stage. Interesting times ahead...
>>62084663
He's shitposting.
Trust me we don't actually want any of those losers back. 20% unemployment was not fun.
>>62084722
yeah but it didnt do anything, saying i told you so. because there was not mass rebellion. I assume this is because nobody just cares about greece, right? Now that the UK is exposing the EUs true intentions surely things will change before its too late and we have to liberate germany again, right?
>>62084718
the EU has 3 presidents,
to avoid the clusterfuck we need to start electing an emperor
>>62084791
>we need to start electing an emperor
A Kaiser, you could say?
>>62084726
>>62084791
you need to disband the eu and reform it under a proper constitution that limits government rather than empowering it. you can use ours, its divinely inspired and literally the most perfect earthly government possible.
>>62084726
Those companies probably make that money thanks to INVESTING in Poland.
When you INVEST you make PROFITS, you get to HAVE WHERE EVER THE FUCK YOU WANT.
>>62084835
Why do you even care it's not your concern.
>>62084791
that's like saying having a PM, President and a head of Senate means you have 3 different presidents ruling your country
Juncker is the head of the European Comission, hence he's the most relevant
Tusk is the head of Council of Europe, so he's not nearly as important
Forgot who's the head of the third institution, but you catch my drift
>>62084790
Brexit won't even happen the way 4chan thinks.
They'll stay in the Single market (with free movement of people) and sell it to the public as the best deal they could get. They're already telegraphing this.
>>62084888
They should reinvest all profit that they have in Poland. The problem is that their profit grows exponentially, and they transfer more and more and more money from Poland without investing it here. If this trend continues, Poland will have to nationalize these Western companies.
>>62084881
>you need to disband the eu and reform it under a proper constitution that limits government rather than empowering it.
That goes against the whole point of the institution.
>>62084835
funny you mention that, kaiser, king and tzar are all bastardization of the roman word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_%28title%29
we Rome now
>>62084927
>They'll stay in the Single market
Not according to your Brexit minister
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/philip-hammond-brexit-single-market-eu-referendum-theresa-may-cabinet-chancellor-a7136101.html
>>62084936
(You)
I really hope Netherlands leave the union, then Österreich... and then Le Pen wins in France.
The only way to save Europa is destroying this Frankenstein "Union".
>>62084904
My apologises, Mein Fuhrer.
>>62084992
That's exactly my point. They're going to sell it as "leaving" when it won't be.
>>62084904
Perhaps you'd prefer a Führer instead
>>62084950
Europeans just want to not be free i guess.
Any government founded under the notion that it is anything but a necessary evil is not going to last. It will just turn in the wheel of kyklos and constantly suffer tyany and rebellion into a newer form to become corrupted again.
The only way to break the cycle is to chain government and focus on ensuring it can only do what it is explicitly allowed to do, and with great difficulty.
Fuck tusk up the ass with an islamic sword
jebany skurwiel
HEY BELGIUM
WHY DONT YOU KEEP THIS ASSHOLE JACKOFF CAUSE WE DONT WANT THIS FAGGOT BACK HERE
IN NO WAY DOES THIS PRICK REPRESENT MY COUNTRY
>>62084936
>They should reinvest all profit that they have in Poland.
Are you stupid? Do you even comprehend how retarded that is?
Where the fuck do you think they got the money to invest IN Poland? They're foreigners, you can bet their money wasn't from Poland.
>>62082945
That's because no deal happens to be worse than shit deal.
is he butthurt at poles' treatment in the UK?
>>62085261
He's just baiting for replies
>>62085261
No this leftist prick is just angry his UK neetbux wont be rolling into his bank account anymore.
>>62082530
They're right. Free-riders should not be tolerated.
>>62084904
Did the Brit just uncover your plans?
Don't forget we're still allies, man, call me when the Russians attack.
>>62084624
They voted leave due to immigration
>>62084953
Kaiser and Tsar are, but king is a cognate of könig
>>62085664
>köNIG
SO IT'S CONFIRMED
DEY WUZ KANGS
>>62085602
see thats the thing comrade, socialism is based on riding free till the other guy's money runs out.
Thats the secret this this "union's success"
>>62084337
>that attack granmas with beer bottles
What's this meme about?
>>62085664
I may be misremembering, there were three titles and I figured king was the third.
>>62082530
They look like an old couple.
>>62085800
>free trade is the same as centrally controlled economy
how can you be so stupid and not have a fatal aneurysm?
>join trade union
>lol lets have an elected chamber and a supreme unelected body for all our new laws for the bants eyyyy ;)))
>Britain is too small to survive on her own! We need to Vote Remain!
>You voted to leave? Typical fucking Little Englander
lmao lads
>>62085907
awww poor boogershit communist
whats a matter , brits refuse to pay for your fourth luxury car?
get used to it, because even more countries will be leaving.
Make Bulgaria Great Again
>>62085912
>The heads of the Memberstates decide who will be in the comission
>The democratically ellected Parlament has to accept them
>non democratic
>>62086177
this 2bh
>>62085800
1 - I'm not your comrade
2 - The EU is not socialist
3 - It's the British who want a free ride, because they want the benefits of integration but don't want to pay the costs.
>>62086243
You can argue that it is too indirect.
But actually they don't have that much power so it isn't worth making them some major election thing where you will have to do campaigns all over Europe.
>>62086177
this. A direct election would be retarded: how would you do if the candidates don't speak the same language as the majority of the voters?
>>62086348
you know what my communist monkey comrade?
you should just keep your filthy shit covered nose in brazil's politics and not worry about ours.
>>62086177
this, every single time
>>62086461
You're from Poland and don't even know what socialism is. Go read a book, you politically illiterate imbecile.
>>62086632
what buttfuck stupid monkey you are
just fuck off you disgusting animal
>>62086632
>You're from Poland and don't even know what socialism is
You are right somehow. He is propably 17-19 years old and didn't seen Socialism.
>>62086951
Which is no excuse for not understanding simple distinctions.
