The EU five years from now
>>61863924
>france leaving the eu
What?
>>61863924
I made a meme map like this before
here you go
>>61864036
We don't need the EU, and we don't like it.
>>61864059
nice
>brexiters really believe this
>>61864036
We voted against the EU constitution but our official still signed it. We don't like the EU, I can't wait for us to leave this nightmare.
The EU five years from now will have all the countries from today, including britain
>>61863924
We can't leave, our elite are all pro EU and it's leave the EU will die, they'll never let us
>>61864262
seconded
>>61863924
by itself Poland is probably never going to leave unless something extraordinary happens
Anglo-French armies vs European coalition, when ?
Can't wait to make France great (literally) again :^)
>>61863924
Gofuck yoursel
>>61864774
They might end the deal with Norway/Switzerland since it clearly played a huge role in brexiter rhethoric
>>61864230
but you invented this fucking idiot.... Spain doesn't need that
>>61865715
We don't want it anymore
>>61865715
We we're Pro-EU when based De Gaulle was in power and it was a French Empire, now the EU is a Germancuck Empire and we don't want it.
>>61865738
me toó but ironically your country cooperates with Germany
>>61863924
why the fuck should Estonia leave?
>>61866336
well when you get conquered by putin I don't think he's gonna let you stay in
Our government will never allow us to have a referendum about that. Almost all our parties said that.
>>61866389
Because it's against your constitution
>>61866370
implying that if putin would try to fuck with the baltics he would limit himself to only invading Estonia and leaving Latvia and Lithuania alone
>>61863924
EU in 5 years is also with Israel & Faroe
>>61864059
Why single out Warsaw
>Cantabria independient
What?
>there are people who believe the EU will exist in 5 years
the fools
>>61864814
PSD
the eu five years from now
>>61867743
T. Achmed Mchaggis
FU = Free Union with England, Greece, Albania and Turkey
My prediction.
>>61867720
Your fucking mother's in PSD you fucking cocksucker don't ever say that
>>61867800
corrected map
>>61864230
yes, you need the EU because your nigger colony would be bankrupt 5 seconds after leaving the EU
same for Spain, Italy and Greece obviously
>>61868983
Shut up Filthy Nazi we don't need you, it's you we need us, you have no army and you're cucks the day we quit the EU will be the day when you become (again) Russia's lil' bitches like Ukraine.
Also here is trade made by France, see which have the most to lose if we quit the EU :)
>>61869444
>we need us
who need us*
>Also here is trade made by France
Also here is the trade made by France
>>61864378
Who is this we, peasant?
>>61864230
You overtook us on the global economy ranking after we left. Loads of business is going to move from London to Paris. Leaving would be beyond retarded.
>>61871458
Your economy will become normal again in a few months and look at this pic>>61869444
Once we leave the EU, the EU will collapse because there will be no army strong enough to act as deterrent against Russia.
>>61871801
>Once we leave the EU, the EU will collapse because there will be no army strong enough to act as deterrent against Russia.
That's the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Deter Russia from what? They're not going to attack the EU.
>>61871801
The UK hasn't actually left the EU yet so you cant see the effects yet
>>61867416
Poles not from Warsaw seem to hate it with a passion. An older one I work with said the people there are stuck up but he also admits he may be biased from the commie b.s. he had to go through there when he'd go back to visit his parents.
>>61872050
>t. naive swede who think Russia will limit itself to Ukraine
Swedes aren't fit for geopolitical discussion, you should stay in your nordic kindergarten and let the adults argue about the future of the EU.
>>61863924
>>61872544
Not an argument. I'll ask you again: deter Russia from what? You will find that most EU countries are NATO members and more relevant than Ukraine. And even if France wasn't a member it would still be in their best interest to not let the Russians invade.
What exactly do you think Russia is going to do? I want details, not just some paranoid speculation.
>>61871458
my father is economist and he says that your economy will be fine after 4 or 5 years like iceland.
>>61872672
Deter russia from invading the Baltic States for example, because american projection is limited and America by itself has no way to fight on equal ground with Russia in Europe.
Also, Read this :
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1253/RAND_RR1253.pdf
>>61867743
The only change is you'd kick Croatia out ?
why ?!?
>>61872922
France is a NATO member you dimwit. It doesn't matter if you're in the EU (which is not a defensive or military union for that matter) or not, you're still obliged to defend the Baltic states if article 5 is invoked.
You're seriously paranoid. Try taking off the tinfoil hat every now and then, it'd do you good.
>>61872672
>>61872922
I can't think of an excuse for Putin to do so. We have rebels in Ukraine and it was Ukrainians who started the shit on Maidan but Baltics are chill and they have no serious problems to escalate. There should be some fire to fuel or at least wood to make the fire. How do people in Europe see it?
>>61872654
and count your guys in. and now we have the eastern bloc back.
>>61873044
>France is a NATO member you dimwit.
Sarkozy made us re-enter in the NATO but we will never fight a war for it, because the President who will make the french army fight for NATO will never be elected again same goes for his party, merely a joke and we will leave once the far right or the far left is elected.
> It doesn't matter if you're in the EU (which is not a defensive or military union for that matter) or not, you're still obliged to defend the Baltic states if article 5 is invoked.
Nope, Turkey for example, when the tensions were rising between it and Russia, NATO said it will not fight for Turkey, which led to the actual behavior of Ergodan who shamelessly suck Putin's dick.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3455934/Nato-warns-Turkey-t-count-support-conflict-Russia-tensions-escalate.html
But since you're a swede and your country doesn't have any national interests except the well-being of the somalians rapists your country is welcoming, i don't blame you.
>>61873101
With what happened to Ukraine it's easy to foresee what will happen to the Baltic States especially those with a russian minority once the EU reach a certain state of weakness.
>>61864262
Brexiters are not the smartest of folks.It is to be expected from them to think retarded shit like that.
>>61863924
>Brexit causes resurgence in pro-EU leanings across continent
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jul/08/brexit-causes-resurgence-in-pro-eu-leanings-across-continent
THE EU IS GONNA BREAK UP GAIS
TRUST ME THE NETHERLANDS IS NEXT
OTHERS ARE GONNA START LEAVING SOON
ITS ALL GONNA BREAK UP
GUYS? guys??!
>>61873769
Britain sacrificed itself for the good of all,for a stronger Europe.
Press F to pay respects.
>>61873674
What's there to foresee? Foresee?
>>61873101
Most people in Europe tend to see it as Russians that turned some embers into an inferno.
People like Frenchie think of it as the first step in Europe's imminent subjugation by the Kremlin
>>61874079
Do they know NATO exist?
>>61874153
They think the EU is taking away their rights, instead of knowing their own politicians are taking away their rights with just a splash of help from the EU.
They don't really know anything
>>61873674
>but we will never fight a war for it, because the President who will make the french army fight for NATO will never be elected again same goes for his party
But the one who breaks the agreement will? You're bound by it and there will be consequences if you don't uphold you end of the bargain. The United States have a prime interest in NATO and will not take kindly on those who would so blatantly break the agreement. And breaking that agreement would look incredibly bad for France internationally. Who would trust the French to uphold other agreements then? No, I find it very difficult to believe that France wouldn't uphold its part. Not just out of the self-interest to have a good reputation, but out of solidarity for the Baltic states. I don't believe the French people would tolerate the Russians invading them.
>NATO said it will not fight for Turkey
Because NATO is a defensive pact. It doesn't partake in aggressive warfare or, in the case of Turkey, a conflict that itself is solely responsible for creating. Turkey can pursue its own interests in the region (namely preventing the creation of a Kurdish state) if it so desires, but NATO will not intervene if it backfires. I think that is fairly reasonable.
>But since you're a swede and your cou[..]
Not once have I insulted France, nor will I. I would ask you return the favor, regardless of what you actually think. It's not relevant to the discussion nor am I interested in hearing it.
>With what happened to Ukraine it's easy to foresee what will happen to the Baltic States
No, it's not. All Baltic states are NATO member. All Baltic states have a strategical value to NATO, the EU and the US. Russia is not going to risk an armed conflict with the US, NATO and/or the EU over the Baltic states. It's simply not worth it.
They'll continue doing provocative exercises near the border and make vague threats. But that is where it ends. The cold war is long over. Russia is not the devil it was made out to be.
THE WORLD 88 YEARS FROM NOW ACCORDING TO THE FREEDOM FIGHTERS OF 4CHAN!!!!!!
>>61874676
>Either America
>White or christian according to memes
You're doing it wrong, the distinction is between
>Islamic shitholes with plenty of goatfucking, harems and detonating people
>Communist socialist dystopian totalitarian shitholes like in 1948
>Lawless niggerlands with lots of violence and rape
>Combinations of the above
>>61874303
>And breaking that agreement would look incredibly bad for France internationally. Who would trust the French to uphold other agreements then? No, I find it very difficult to believe that France wouldn't uphold its part. Not just out of the self-interest to have a good reputation, but out of solidarity for the Baltic states. I don't believe the French people would tolerate the Russians invading them.
We have already broken agreement, the Russian Mistral for example ,but it didn't impact our armement industry(pic related), once again your thinking is too academic and not enough pragmatic. And the french don't care about others at most it will make us happy to see the collapse of the german fourth reich.
>Because NATO is a defensive pact. It doesn't partake in aggressive warfare or, in the case of Turkey, a conflict that itself is solely responsible for creating. Turkey can pursue its own interests in the region (namely preventing the creation of a Kurdish state) if it so desires, but NATO will not intervene if it backfires. I think that is fairly reasonable.
This is not about being reasonable, NATO backed off because it don't have enough power to sustain a full-scale conflict with Russia,especially with Iran as a pontential ally of Russia.
>>61875140
>Not once have I insulted France, nor will I. I would ask you return the favor, regardless of what you actually think. It's not relevant to the discussion nor am I interested in hearing it.
You can insult France all you want, i'm old enough for not being angered by some unknow anon in the darkness place of the internet, but it's true i was a bit rash.
> Russia is not going to risk an armed conflict with the US, NATO and/or the EU over the Baltic states. It's simply not worth it.
Invading the Baltic States can bring a lot of benefits to Russia, and i don't have enough time to list them but all is in the pdf i posted(above) :
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1253/RAND_RR1253.pdf
https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/files/chathamhouse/public/Research/Russia%20and%20Eurasia/0812bp_grigas.pdf
http://www.rieas.gr/research-areas/2014-07-30-08-58-27/russian-studies/2082-the-geopolitics-of-the-baltic-states
http://ehvgknh.eastviewpress.com/Files/IA_FROM%20THE%20ARCHIVES_No.3%202013.pdf
I don't have time to argue with you, but i can recommend a few readings.
http://www.silkroadstudies.org/resources/1409GrandStrategy.pdf
http://sam.gov.tr/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/3Anna_Kireeva.pdf
https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/research_reports/RR1200/RR1253/RAND_RR1253.pdf
http://carnegieendowment.org/files/trenin_middle_east.pdf
>>61874969
Actually, if you look at crime and suicide rates, the Arab states are actually on the bottom, alongside Western European states when it comes to violent crimes. The only thing wrong with the Arab/Muslim states is terrorism which we really didn't fuel, but fueled by outside parties.
>>61864774
Please don't joke about this, They're going. They're finally going. Don't you dare try to take that momentous occasion from us.
>>61873101
Most people don't give a shit. They care about jobs and football and shit. Also laughing at the French when they go 'Hionhonhonhoninhonhob la France cest indispensable pour l'Europe et mon armee de frappee et etc.'
Kek. Stupid frogs.
Also the clusterfuck that is theM.E with regugees and shit. This would actually go straight up to number 1 issue.
The shit of eastern ucraine and Russia gonna invade you all and eat your babies is just crap spouted by those shilling for a Eurasia vs Oceania scenario. Basically the Eternal Anglo and his minions.
>>61864378
>>We voted against the EU constitution but our official still signed it.
The Lisbon treaty is nothing like the original EU constitution. That one would actually have given a lot of power to the European Parliament.
>>61875140
>but it didn't impact our armement industry(pic related)
Wrong pic*
>>61863924
Oh yes god please let it be Poland who leaves the EU next
>>61875815
You will never leave.
>>61876734
Unless Poland becomes an oblast.
Leaving the EU would cripple France, their whole economy relies on EU subsidies
>>61863924
The EU five years from now
>>61876802
PLease, no, I don't like Polished peoples, I'm from a place with lots of Polish, they're too hotheaded and emotional, my granddad was Polish, he was a real madman, even though he was incredibly good at building.
>scotland
>leaving uk
nice meme
>>61874676
People are ironic here khalid don't get your panties in a twist
>>61873373
Would actually have even more countries than the eastern block had
>>61880144
That's EU after 15 years
>>61880481
Gray countries = bankrupt
>>61879909
>I'm from a place with lots of Polish,
There is no Polish people in Russia, except those who were sent by Stalin to Siberia and somehow managed to survive it, but they are not Polish either today.
>>61871801
Is it really thanks to the EU that there hasn't been war between European countries these past decades?
>>61880665
As you say, lol.
>>61880912
>Is it really thanks to the EU that there hasn't been war between European countries these past decades?
Yes, that's the only reason.
>>61863924
>no Libya
>5 years from now
>Ukraine, Belarus, and Baltics not part of Russia
>>61869444
Stop talking like this to my best neighbour, French faggot.
