Invited: Lapsed Catholics, Cultural Catholics, Good Catholics, Bad Catholics, A La Carte Catholics, Recovering Catholics, Cafeteria Catholics, Ukrainian Greek Catholics, Maronite Catholics, Syrian Catholics, Coptic Catholics, Albanian Byzantine Catholics.
Allowed on probation: Orthodox
B&: Poo-testants
Song of the Thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DnrOwiYqTcc
Quote of the Thread:
"There is no inconsistency in God's commanding us not to take upon ourselves what belongs to Him alone. For to execute vengeance belongs to none but Him who is Lord of all; for when the powers of the world rightly accomplish this end, God himself does it who appointed them for the purpose."
-Anselm of Canterbury
>>61781799
Bavarian reporting in.
Pope Francis ruined Catholicism for me.
>>61781799
When was the last time we had a Catholic thread on int I thought it got moved to his
I want to be a slutty Catholic girl for her husbando :3
>yfw religion will be gone in 50 years
>allowed on probation
OK I laughed
Who /memorized pater noster in Latin/ here?
>>61781862
If pope Francis is able to tap into the young liberal Catholics religion will survive
>>61781825
>what's humility?
>>61781853
slutty but slightly guilty-feeling Catholic girls are the only thing worth living for in this world
who /taizé/ here?
>>61781825
see >>61781928 this. Maybe you wouldn't do it, or even think highly of any individual who would do that. But the exercise of extreme humility is consistent, honourable, and brave from a person who has dedicated their life to the church.
>>61781946
always thought it was a protestant trick
>>61781862
This is the sort of thing an ex-protestant would say.
Lapsed and "ex"-catholics are still part of the religion regardless of beliefs. That's because we have enough culture, art, and tradition to be appealing and viable even from a secular perspective. That will never, ever, change.
>>61782007
think Roger was, but all confessions are there. most people I encountered were catholic though
>>61781934
I agree. That's why I wanna be a girl, a real girl
Are we allowed to like trap qts?
Pope's visit to America was a great success
Any other /Jesuits/ here??
>>61782403
Only if they are consecrated
>>61781825
Pope Francis is just a Pope, and someday he will be gone.
But God doesn't exist
>>61782403
desu that's a good question
>cum here and confess your sins my son
What do
>>61782688
>what is cultural catholic
>>61782706
DELET
>>61781799
Fucking Cathocucks. Boy fuckers and boy fucker enablers, a stain on Christianity if there ever was one
>>61782706
You are a big guy father
>>61782688
>>61781862
I don't think so. People tend to get more religious as they get old.
>>61782688
who really know, our existence is too limited to answer such a question
>>61782728
Roman Rite is the son of greek philosophy, roman culture and existentialism.
And another one bites the dust.
>>61782724
>>61782731
>>61782799
He's handsome
>waiting patiently for the global tide of secular shitposting to end
some day
>>61781799
>being a roman cuckdick
>the current year
B R A V O P L E B S
>>61781862
rumours of religion's death have been greatly overrated. Voltaire said the same thing 100 years ago.
>>61781946
I am the only one who finds such communities uncanonical as fuck?
I met a Catholic girl who said she mixes her religion with paganism and referred to tarot cards. On a scale of 0 to Double Martin Luther, how heretical is this?
>>61783011
MArtin Luthor is less heretical than this
Thirty Years' War was the best war
>>61781934
>>61782142
You should try repressed muslim girls. It's even better.
>>61783157
W-Wait...are you trying to convert me to Islam?
>tfw your country is the elder daughter of the church but it's also one of the most atheist today
>>61783157
Careful with them. Sometimes the pressure gets too much for them and they just explode.
Here we go, off the top of my head:
In nomine patris et fillii et spirictus sancti:
pater noster qui est in caelis, sanctificeteur nomen tuum, adveniat regnum tuum sicut in caelo et in terra. Panem nostrum quotidanum da nobis hodie. Dimite nobis debita nostra, sicut et nos dimitiumus debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentancionem, sed libera nos a malo.
Amen.
>>61783193
No, just fuck them. For a muslim girl, having relations with a christian man is like the maximum haram shit ever.
God bless hymen repair surgery.
Didn't Benny 16 throw "consubstantial" in the Nicene Creed? What a big ol nerd.
>>61783193
Is it hard being Catholic in Malaysia?
>>61781799
>associating this dumb frog with the Catholic Church
Go fuck yourself desu
>>61783241
I know m8. They are completely fucked up. The sexual repression is too high.
Catholic in Sweden reporting in.
>>61783224
cursed French Revolution!
>>61783360
did you convert or are you a foreigner?
>>61781825
why? Jesus did same
>>61783324
yes because there's only Novus Cuckdo where I live.
The Vatican will burn one day and you'll all realise your mistakes
>>61783342
To one who has faith, no explanation is necessary. To one without faith, no explanation is possible.
>>61783282
That's kinda hot, except I have to convert to Islam to pull this off here >__<
>>61783381
Dunno why my family's catholic but it's just the way it is I guess. I'm Swedish as far back as I know.
>>61783369
Well, before the revolution France was the elder daughter of the church, and our king was the elder son of the church, so France had to protect it.
I don't remember which year it was but for example there was a time the cardinals couldn't manage to vote for a new pope, so a french noble locked them inside their building, and told them they'd only leave once they elected a pope, he said they'd get water and bread, and if they couldn't decide after a week, it would only be water. They quickly found a new pope, and the catholic church was stable once again.
Our king was also called the very christian king, and he was pretty much the first protector of the faith.
I find it fascinating, it's an honor as much as a big responsability, but I'm glad to know that France contributed a lot to the catholic faith.
>>61783495
Pretty funny then that France was instrumental in the war against the Catholic part of the holy roman empire alongside Sweden.
Without France, northern Germany and many other now protestant parts of Europe would probably have been forced to convert back to Catholicism again.
>>61783524
Hey hey hey, nobody's perfect, even us, I know it's hard to believe
>>61783494
interesting. My being Catholic wouldn't seem to line up with my ethnic background either.
Both parents were irreligious of protestant background, but my dad's best friend was a Lebanese Catholic and convinced my dad to send me to Catholic school and he personally got me, and my sister, baptised and confirmed. Sort of strange but sure is better than being protestant.
>>61783495
Oh, it gets better.
He also forbade any unrequired companionship besides one assistant, and when they still didn't get stuff done, he removed the roof from the building. And the guy they picked was just someone who told them to get their stuff together, so they went "Yeah? Well, in that case, you be pope!". Dude didn't want to, but alas.
And at one point, didn't your entire church move from the Vatican to Avignon?
>>61783434
Not converting is the point.
All women are whores. It's incredibly easy to convince them when they are horny.
>>61783610
>And at one point, didn't your entire church move from the Vatican to Avignon?
It did, I don't remember when and why, but I know it happened. It didn't last very long tho
Happy eid lads
>>61783595
So your parents were okay with you being Catholic?
Hey lads, how do I get back into going to church and being a good Catholic?
After I moved out like 6 years ago, I haven't been even once. Been having a strong urge to do so for two years already, just don't know how. I'd feel like an autist in church t.b.h
I come from an irreligious Catholic family, and now that I'm an adult I want to actually get into the religion. How do I get more involved and return to the faith?
>>61783384
The photo shoot was him embracing Syrian refugees.
He is specifically kissing the feet of criminals who invaded Europe under the guise of being a refugee. Does that man look Syrian to you?
>>61783595
>irreligious of protestant background
Such is the end point of protestantism.
Even here, Ukraine was once known as the Bible Belt of the USSR. Now it is the most atheist former-soviet country, and the only existing Churches are the Orthodox and Greek Catholic ones.
Also, JW and Mormons are about to contract hard in the near future, from what i heard.
Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit by itself, unless it abides in the vine, neither can you, unless you abide in me. 5I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing. 6If anyone does not abide in me he is thrown away like a branch and withers; and the branches are gathered, thrown into the fire, and burned.
>>61783572
I'm just saying, in the biggest, world-spanning conflict (because of colonies) between Catholics and protestants, France was on the protestant side. :)
get fugged u catlickers :DDD
>>61783698
yeah they were. The Catholic school thing was basically because the public school system in Cleveland was terrible, and then he convinced my parents that my sister and I would fit in better at school and such if he brought us up Catholic, so he took us to church sometimes and ultimately sponsored us in our confirmations.
>>61783822
OUT
>>61783728
>Such is the end point of protestantism.
That's what happen when you fall for le "faith alone without work" meme.
Your faith isn't worth shit if you don't sacrifice anything.
>>61783822
f-f-fuck off
>>61783900
Dubs speak the truth. For all their bluster about a work ethic, Protestants are the laziest when it comes to religion. They are a branch without a tree rotting to dust, a fish out of water floundering and dying. The presence of God and the glory of an ancient unbroken tradition is not in their churches. The modern atheistic liberal atomization of society has its roots squarely in the Protestant atomization of faith. The end result is a mass of lonely, miserable people without direction or purpose.
>>61781799
Fuck off, religion is a cancer killing that planet. I have enough religious opression IRL to see religiofags in 4chan.
Fuck you.
And give us apologizes for northern crusades.
>>61783900
>>61783993
That's just what my father taught me
And it kept me away from the troublemakers
>>61782715
What is cultural Catholic for you? I was baptized and that's basically it. My parents never even married, my family stopped going to church when I was like 7 or 8, I haven't believed in anything since I was 11, I've never read the Bible, never went to catechism classes or did first communion and we don't do any Christian holidays. So how exactly am I a cultural Catholic?
>>61784042
>I have enough religious opression IRL
In the West is the complete opposite. And 4chan is a contrarian website. Get used.
>>61783900
Tfw they wanted to unite with us, but this happened after they had already made the Ausburg Confession, so after reading their(heavily eastern modified version) declaration of faith, the Ecumenical Patriarch was like "was is this heretical crap?"
>>61782787
> people get more religious as they get older
There's no proof of that and if that were the case then Millennials would be starting to go to church and that's not happening.
>>61783282
Kys
>>61784104
You just have to build wall
>>61781862
Not really. If we extrapolate modern trends: Amount of religioufags would decrease drastically but religiofags left would be very radical and dangerous despite being small in number. You can see this in Russia where overwhelming majority of youth are atheists or just secular while religious youth is totally retarded and radical, and it goes for all religions here. So called orthodox activists attack art exhibitions, use antiblasphemy law to imprison people they dislike, religious Muslim youth goes to ISIS. But those are very small minority while the majority are fedoras. I think it works like that: religiofags see people around leaving the religions, get buttblasted and become more and more radical.
>>61783635
I molested twenty hijab sluts and that's it for me really
>>61783993
I was driving through Kansas the other day, and seeing all of the ridiculous protestant church names and denominations was the most cringey thing ever.
"reformed marzapanilian dualist evangelical church"
"third united unitarian universalist islamo-neo-calvinist congregation"
"quasi-re-magined northern dialect unified south african dialectical kierkegaardian (pbuh) baptist artisinal communal church"
etc
Protestants just ruined the whole thing and it makes me so angry. The spinning out of control hyper-balkanization of Christendom is all their fault and they've made the whole thing absurd and nihilistic. It makes me so angry to think that most young people in the US think of one of the aforementioned protestant denominations when they hear the word "christian." It is no wonder most are irreligious.
Ex-atheist Roman Catholic here.
One life goal is to make a great pilgrimage from Lisbon to Jerusalem.
>>61784233
lol
>>61784233
I did Guadalupe last year and it literally turned me from Lapsed to Recovering. I had never felt so loved and inspired.
>>61783993
Mainline Protestants may be liberal (lazy) af about religion but Evangelicals are way more into it than any other Christian sect, except the weird ones like JW and Mormons. Also, the vast majority of Catholics don't give a shit about their religion either they just keep calling themselves like that because of some cultural Catholic meme.
>>61782403
Obviously no, gays, traps and people who are jerking off would go to hell. Same goes for people who fuck in marriage. Also special orthodox thing: fucking in a pose of rider is considered to be absolutely sinful, also music except for singing, not wearing headscarf for women, not wearing a beard for male, smoking, not fasting, not obeying to your government is considered sinful. There is no way to go to heaven if you really believe that shit so idk why are some people still religious.
Also, seriously, we should ban such a threads on 4chan, it spreads retardness. Religion is not a country or culture so no generals for you.
>>61784042
Kys pagan puta
>>61784302
How long was the pilgrimage?
>>61784190
That only happens in Russia though because it's a primitive shithole. Muslims join isis here too but catholics and pretty much all Christians except Westboro Baptist Church (which is a meme) is completely non violent and non imposing
>>61784329
yeah but the evangelicals have the most insane theology and beliefs ever. They are worse than mainliners if only for their neurosis.
>>61784171
>Catholic thread
>Muslim shithole
Pls go away second-hand mudslime
>>61784370
Once I got to the basilica I just had to wait like 45 minutes in lines and stuff.
>cathohols
>>61784358
No one is forcing you here. You can leave and go create some /r/atheism hugbox and whine about your oppression there.
>>61784387
Yeah, but they're relevant at least and will keep making new converts all the time. On the other hand the only reason why Catholicism grows is because of Africa and some Latin American countries having a high birth rate and Catholicism is also pretty irrelevant to most people's lives.
>>61784500
>Yeah, but they're relevant at least and will keep making new converts all the time.
See what i wrote about Ukraine and mormons:
>>61783728
>>61784418
Nice. I'll probably do a short one too as practice for the more intense ones.
>>61783011
100% heresy punishable by death according to Bible (Book of Levit for example). As said Ioann Zlatoust, father of the church, "God destroys countries which have legalized following sins: murder, sodomy and magic". He is a father of the church. Also it's stated in New Testament multiple times that magicians go to hell with no excuses.
>>61783224
Good, all the world should get rid of medieval barbarism
>>61782862
>wants shitposting to end
>hangs out on 4chins
BRUV....
>>61783595
>Arab catholic
What a cuck, converting to religion of bloody invaders instead of ancient orthodoxy or islam created by Arabs themselves.
>>61784581
MAJICIANS GO TO HELL WITH NO EXCUSES
damn. what about clowns.
>>61783714
You will have punishment for not attending the church for 3 weeks if you say about it to priest. It's called epitimia and you will have to pay money and would be allowed to some parts of liturgy. At least it's like that in orthodoxy.
>>61784500
well yes but they also produce the most militantly anti-theist offspring in the world. Generally the children of evangelicals who lose faith wind up as the most hardcore fedoras in the US.
I have never heard of an irreligious person who calls themselves a "cultural evangelical."
On the other hand... I haven't believed in God for a long time, but I still go to mass sometimes, recite latin prayer, cross myself, read theology, write myself down as Catholic on the census, and I will certainly raise my kids as Catholics.
That's our advantage. Catholicism can spread itself with and without faith.
>>61781825
Pope? More like poop, lol.
>>61783726
Wow, what an edgy poltard. Refugees exist and Syria is not only one real bloodbath, so you have to be totally retarded to condemn people who has fled religious opression, famine and war. For example, there is literal genocide happening right now in Central African Republic.
>>61784730
>having to pay money for not attending church
kek
So that's why all orthodox clerics drive S-Class Mercedes
>>61784112
Wew, where is it said "westerners only" here? We have fuckin anriblasphemy law, relugiotards put people in prison every week. In southern Russia Cossacks may punish you with nagaika (kind of lash) for wearing anything "satanic" or "western". I see religion in it's genuine mode and you see only weakened beast.
>>61783635
hurrrrrrrrrr espana perma nerd detected >_<
>>61781825
Yeaaahhhhhh....no.
what is it with all the kinky foot stuff and catholics. hah!
>>61785015
It's a Jesus thing from the Bible.
Traditionally, the Pope only kisses men's feet. But Pope Francis is also kissing the feet of some very cute ladies. Makes me wonder if he is thoughts are in the right place when he does it.
>>61783718
think less
open your wallet
????
easy to get real religious lollercopters
>>61784376
It's just because you are rich and developed country where things I was talking about are real already. Most of people are fedoras and only small number of radicals are religious. They may not do violent shit but they are still retarded and would be violent if not the society and government standing against them.
Does Hesus wants us to be /fit/?
>>61783714
just bring money, any church will HAPPILY take you.
I wonder if pope Francis had a nice arse when young
>>61785102
top geg
yes, and he wants u to tithe.
and lift.
>>61785086
Stop being retarded. There are chimp outs nowadays still, none which are religiously motivated.
I have no idea where this ebun meme comes from that catholics are the same as the heap of shit that are orthodox or protestants. My religion doesn't teach to be violent or pass judgment.
>>61785102
How can you have a strong spirit without a strong body?
>>61784698
Same, being actor is a sin and all actors go to hell with no excuses. In Russia actors before 1917 were buried out of church graveyards.
II
>>61784358
agreed. religion is not a country or a culture. Delet this shit thread, janny.
JANNY
JANNNNNYYYYYYYYYYYY
WHAT IF I POST HERE COME DAT BOI.
>>61785171
>CATHOLICS
>NOT VIOLENT
>DO NOT PASS JUDGEMENT
WHEW LAD CRUSADES
>>61785213
heehee i forgot that
>>61785281
>barbaric goat fucking tribe comes and conquers half of christendom
>go to take it back
>OMG HOW COULD THEY DO THAT CRUSADES ARE LE EVUB
>>61783637
>It didn't last very long tho
Just more than a hundred years
>>61784870
It's epitimia, when church punishes you for sins. Before 1917 epitimia included things like 10 years in prison for leaving the orthodoxy, monastery prison for cheating your spouse etc. In modern Russia it's usually fine you pay to church or you should have physical punishments (bend over 1000 times in a day before icons etc).
But priest here are rich not because of fines, it's because gifts from rich people, government, money for baptizing, death liturgy, crossing your house or car etc.
>>61785408
Why don't people just not pay it it they don't agree with it? I just don't get why you're so mad
>>61785341
>Crusade
>Sack Greece and Constantinople, leaving the eastern Roman Empire and the center of eastern Christendom (Byzantium) forever weakened.
le brave catlicker men
>>61785281
The crusades started because the byzantine emperor Alexios Komnenos asked the pope for help after a thousand years of being invaded by muslims and because muslims were besieging Constantinople for the eleventh time.
>>61785483
Because he is an edgy atheist
>>61785171
>There are chimp outs nowadays still, none which are religiously motivated.
Oh wow. Of course radicals are tools for politicians, but radicals themselves are religiously motivated idiots.
>My religion doesn't teach to be violent or pass judgment
That's because Pope silences radical preachers. Literally all Christianity is built on violence as all the other abrahamic religions (I don't deny there are good verses too but most of them are violent shit) and you just need to be uneducated and poor, to be disappointed in life to follow that shit and start attacking people, call for antiblasphemy law and dress code on the street etc.
>>61785341
Lol.
1) Islam in that time was way more progressive than Christianity of that time so you were the barbarian tribes invading. Also Islam became so popular in MENA because people has tired of never ending sectarian violence between different Christian groups.
2) You had crusades against orthodoxes too. In the end you always fooled Byzantium and took their land and eventually destroyed Constantinople in 1204. Luckily Russia fought you back in 1241.
>>61785549
Well yeah, that's why having a Pope works well, you have a figure that's accountable for questionable actions.
Nice assumptions there btw. I'm not poor, or uneducated, yet I'm still Catholic. Where's your god now?
>>61785483
Because priest benefit from stupid uneducated people who think they would go to hell if they don't pay. Also it's possible our government would intensify oppression and we would have prison for sins again.
>>61785518
What a bullshit, western shill.
>>61785659
>Also Islam became so popular in MENA because people has tired of never ending sectarian violence between different Christian group
m8 you best be trolling. Islam started out as a literal war mongering religion. Convert, pay extra taxes, or die. No kidding people converted.
You can't blame the faith for infighting like the 4th crusade which were completely motivated by money. If you know anything about it it was just trying to find someone to pay the debpts.
>worship a dead jew and his mother
>>61785518
Then why did the crusaders sack constantinople while trying to set up small catholic kingdoms, like the Latin ''empire'' in Greece?
>>61785835
Basically because a bad business deal between crusaders and the enternal venetian.
>>61785687
Anecdotal evidence.
>>61785789
Oh wow. Very small bunch of Arabs haven't seen any resistance and people became Muslims very fast. In the other case giant Christian masses would destroy any government oppressing them (especially few Arabs on camels) but instead people has fled the Christianity. That's because before it MENA has seen few centuries of sectarian violence. Donatists killings montanists, gnostics killing montanists, nestorians killing orthodoxes and orthodoxes killing everyone. Islam was also way more progressive (divorces in 7th century, dude). If not Mongol invasion destroyed all the world except for west I think Arabs would have invented capitalism, become colonial empires etc and now Europe would be poor retarded war thorn region and Arabs would be biggest fedoras.
>>61785518
and then the good crusaders started pillaging his lands and breaking their oaths by not giving back his turf.
>>61785835
oh yeah, and then they sacked catholic Zara, because why not?
>>61786025
So you be saying we WUZ progressives and SHIT?
>>61785835
Greece not paying their denbts
Hi
>>61786095
Yes. The problem are Mongols. Because of them, Russians, Chinese, Indians, Arabs became retarded compared to Europe and retardness we see now is consequence. Mongols literally destroyed all our lands and Europeans became handicapped and invented capitalism and colonialism first.
>>61786397
As a Muslim I agree. Muhammad is not a pdophile and he's the most perfect example of how a human being should live
>>61786397
Mongols were gud bois. Dindu nuffin.
>>61786496
kys
Finland was Catholic for 300 years
>>61783148
Time to remove again protestants scums
>>61787223
Fuck you traitor protestants collaborators.
>>61788264
wut?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_La_Rochelle
>>61789941
Les français étaient alliés à la Suède et quelques autres puissances alemandes protestantes contre la plupart des monarchies catholiques (SERG et Espagne) durant la guerre de Trente ans, les espagnols l'ont assez mal digéré historiquement
