We're all basically in agreement about this, right?
>>61627430
Irish federation should just be Ireland. Call it Irish federation once you annex South Africa.
>>61627430
Include Scots and Mann in our confederation and you have my vote.
>>61627430
Memes aside, are you lot really going to this scenario?
>>61627676
Norn Iron has a fuckton of people who vehemently deny a union with Dublin. A federation is probably the first step in making it workable, e.g. Ireland and England both share custody over Norn Iron.
Then NI has devolved status in Ireland
Then NI is directly ruled by Dublin
You missed off The Republic of Greater Northumbria
>>61627430
No fuck off. Northern Ireland is a leech. It would take a third of our revenue to fund it.
>>61627818
The rest of the country leeches off of Dublin, should we just sell everything out of the GDA?
Fuck off you cunt, that land is ours, and in the long run, we would make FAR more than we would spend if we incorporated Northern Ireland.
>>61627676
Most of the Ulster protestant / Unionist population are of Scots descent, and identify as such. If Scotland leaves the UK it will create a serious identity crisis in this community that may lead to them seeking to join with Ireland.
>>61627818
Please post from a proxy so that your westbrit cuck statements are not associated with my flag.
You forgot about the Grand Duchy of Jersey and the Shetland Empire.
>>61627989
Ireland-Scotland Union when?
No, this is stupid. Why do you want to balkanise the UK? Who /EireRejoinsUK/ here
>>61627430
:^)
>>61628294
don't want the north, don't want to rejoin the UK either.
Also its Ireland, not Eire, not the 'irish republic', not 'the republic of ireland', just Ireland.
>>61628444
>Its Ireland not Eire
Okay well you're wrong, Thomas.
>>61627818
This, fuck the north and fuck the Northern Irish they are not Irish.
Uk can keep those fucks.
>>61628294
When you apologize for Cromwell and admit he committed genocide
>>61628444
Southern Ireland? :^)
>>61628498
Go back to Blackrock you Seánín cunt.
/Republic of Wales/ when?
Gareth Bale as the Prime Minister.
>>61628505
>apologize
do you unironically spell like yanks in Southern Ireland to be contrary or is this the work of the devil (spellcheck) ?
>>61628552
Kek I am from west Cork senpai, you can't get much southern or western than this.
Why don't you fuck off and ruin Europe some more Hans.
>>61628564
>Wanting a bunch of football hooligans worse than niggers and cost more than wales or Scotland in terms of welfare.
Yeah I am the cuck, I am the cuck because I don't want the Republic fucked because of some pipe dream.
Would you really go back into another recession and make our country forever piss poor because of a couple of counties.
>>61628505
also I'm sorry. Will you rejoin now :3
>>61628567
Union of Israeles when
>>61628478
The correct name is Éire not Eire you overseas cunt.
>>61628527
STOP IT
>>61628761
>fictional creature as emblem
That's so silly.
Is there any country with a werewolf/zombie/vampire on its flag?
makes me laugh whenever a forigner honestly believes we're going to rejoin with Ireland any time soon
these old fuck politicians are stubborn bastards
>>61628872
you should visit Wales. I can unironically imagine that there were dragons there once upon a time desu.
Rate my idea lads
PROPOSAL FOR THE FEDERATION OF IRELAND
Taxes:
Taxes will be equalised across both regions, with exceptions made for low tax areas to attract investment - Western Ireland, Northern Ireland, and the Midlands.
Politics:
Stormont may remain in sitting for a period of 8 years to ensure all precautions are taken to safeguard the interests of the people, and will eventually be phased out to a full transition into Dáil Éireann.
The Oireachtas shall devolve powers to Stormont. The Dáil shall be expanded to 213 seats (1 TD per 30,000 population), 60 in the North and 153 in the Republic.
A Council for Consultation shall take place between the First and Deputy First Ministers of Northern Ireland, An Taoiseach, the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and, if applicable, the Prime Minister of Scotland. It shall deliberate on mutual policies bi-yearly including: trade, travel, and defence.
>>61628669
>west cork
That makes sense. You don't want the North to suck up your welfare pennies.
>Hans
I'm Irish you thick bogger cunt.
>>61627430
It kinda makes me happy that I am gonna see the end of anglo empire in a few years.
The perfidious albion had it coming
>>61628979
horrible, HORRIBLE idea
>>61629072
>It kinda makes me happy that I am gonna see the end of anglo empire in a few years.
literally happened years ago (hong kong) but k
>>61629059
Then why do you have a cuck flag, also cork is far away from bogger territory.
>>61627818
Northern Ireland is in the state it's in due to its status within the union, unification with the south would attract investment from abroad to ni - which would benefit the entire island
>>61629059
muh heritage
>>61629084
We get the North, Stormont gets to suck up cash, Unionists get to have British input on the country, and we get to finally have a party other than Sinn fucking Fein leading the Nationalists in the North
>>61629127
>>61629131
Brits voting out doesn't mean other EU citizens don't still have free travel :^)
>>61629124
hong kong was just a oversea colony.
now we are gonna see britain losing its core territory
Come on lads - let's just put our past differences behind us and all join together again!
>>61629192
As an emigrant you shouldn't have any say in our politics.
>>61629275
No, that would just be english rule again, we're fine being independent but in the EU. Any reunification would just start troubles again.
>>61629192
if Northern Ireland ever joined Ireland all the Irish Nationalists in Northern Ireland would emigrate, it is in their nature
anyone with any sense knows this is the only way
>>61629334
>all the Irish Nationalists in Northern Ireland would emigrate, it is in their nature
that makes no sense
the unionists would emigrate, not the nationalists
>>61629321
As an underage cuck faggot you shouldn't have any say in reunification.
>>61629334
Nobody would take them, their accent is quite incomprehensible to foreigners.
>>61629392
your picture is what I mean, it is ingrained in the Irish to emigrate, once a united Ireland happens a new batch of Irish will do so
>>61629445
>it is ingrained in the Irish to emigrate
yeah but its england's fault
>>61629321
>reunification would start troubles again
Nah - a substantial minority in ni would vote pragmatically / economically on a border poll rather than on any nationalistic lines- whatever way this group vote would decide the future of ni within the union
Due to the effect brexit will have on ni it is very very likely that this grouping would support irish unification in the future
>>61628669
In 2008 caused a recession by spending $400bn to guarantee the banks. Less then ten years later we are now back as the wealthiest country in the EU.
The most alarmist estimate is that it would cost us $10bn to integrate NI. Doing so would be an absolute piece of piss considering the world economy is roaring.
This 'NI is too expensive' lie needs to die, I hear it way too often from cucks with ulterior motives.
>>61628979
Retarded. The Unionists will reject out of hand anything other that a 'home rule' government in perpetuity.
>>61629494
people in ROI still emigrate now to live in the UK
>>61629445
THIS.
Literally both my mum and Dad's side of the family both emigrated from Ireland. I swear the Irish also fuck like rabbits considering how many Irish relatives people have down here.
Wake up Ireland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_lweBl70N0
Should have kept the name Scotia desu
>tfw scotland steals your names
>>61629275
Nah, no interest in joining the United Cuckdom of New Pakistan
>>61629771
>2:00
>A shop called "Sinn Fein" with an palestinian flag inside
Oh lordy
>>61629593
That's fine. Let them have Home Rule, and then we dictate their budget after a decade. If they vote against it, they would be overruled by the other constituencies in the country (like how Westminster ultimately has power over them).
By then, moderate Protestants will have stable jobs and the economy will be improving.
>>61629916
Refer to >>61629771
>>61629917
I love the bit just after that where he's filmed a couple of black girls who are clearly Murikan tourists (just like him) from their accents. lol.
>>61629546
The difference would be we have very little wiggle room for debt. During 2007, our debt was only 25% of GDP (it's low-90% now, was 125% during the peak of our crisis).
We wouldn't have a WHOLE lot of wiggle room but with a proper budget and US investment influx, we could easily incorporate them without any massive tax hikes.
>>61629771
>hurr, there are some black people in Ireland, therefore Ireland is collapsing demographically
way to project, Nigel.
>>61629939
Why the fuck would they ever agree to that.
This United Ireland thing is like selling a car. The onus is on us to convince them they want it. Why would they make any concessions whatsoever to achieve something they actively don't want?
>>61630042
Demographic of dublin, specifically the city center it seems. Which is not the same as the country at large, even the suburbs have a vastly different composition.
Seriously the area north of henry street is a veritable ghetto
>Giving back that shit hole to Ireland
take it
>>61630123
Because we're not trying to appeal to hardliners. Unionists were split during the Brexit Campaign, which is why Remain won.
We can easily appeal to the moderate Protestants and allay their fears of economic doom and persecution, by offering them a carrot in the form of Home Rule.
The hardliners don't make up enough of a population to do anything themselves.
>>61630190
sorry, no backsies.
>>61630139
The same as literally every other city that matters. Having high foreigner population is the price of being a world city
>>61630227
Moderate protestants are still overwhelmingly in favour of Unionism mate.
>>61630334
Before Brexit, yes.
>>61630371
I admire your persistence but you are out of your mind if you think Brexit is going to shift the polls by FOURTY points
>>61630227
Not
Going
To
Happen
Remain only won by about %10, and even still, people feel way more strongly British than European. Have you actually been to Northern Ireland? They would beat the shit out of you for even suggesting such a thing as this.
>>61630371
The remain vote in the north was rather a slim majority, and most people wouldn't favour the EU over the UK as the UK is their nation. It will hold a stronger place in their hearts than the EU by far.
>>61630042
it's happening here too, apparently :((
this guy seems like a real philosopher. I like the way his documentaries allow you (the viewer) to reach your own conclusion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sce2f0lvVU
>>61630371
there was less than 10% difference in votes in NI I think.
sorry nobody likes your union
>Isle of Mann
>part of a kingdom
>>61630496
The circumstances have changed dramatically and you are in no position to say this
>>61630496
The circumstances have changed dramatically, and you are in no position to claim that this is any longer the case
>>61630708
It's a crown dependency lad
>>61630487
>>61630653
I suppose we will just have to see how the next couple years turn out, how Ireland's economy does (we're expected to thrive and remain fastest growing in Europe for at least 2 years), and what sort of trade deal Britain gets from the EU.
People will vote pragmatically, and one can only hope Ireland's economy recovers enough to make this a feasible and viable proposal.
You brits fucked up in 1920 by not splitting the crowns and not making us a separate kingdom again.
>>61630999
Would have accepted The Big Fellow as my King desu
>>61630965
>People will vote pragmatically
I wish I shared in your delusion, it seems so pleasant.
>>61631057
>delusion
If they didn't, Fine Gael would have been eviscerated like FF did, and wouldn't be the largest party in the Dáil right now m8
>>61630042
>USA, 12,475
>Rest of America, 8,649
Doesn't make any sense since America refers to the United States. There is no America outside of the USA. Whoever made this chart should take a geography class some time
>>61630965
>>61631116
>by 2030
That's a loss in projected GDP, not an actual loss in GDP.
The European Commission revised our estimate upwards to 4% or some shit, and trade with Brits won't be affected until you actually leave. You're still a member for at least 2 years.
>>61630895
Yeah, technically it's not part of the kingdom.
>>61631192
the good thing is that you guys are fucked up by this decision too, which is nice, because we can use you as leverage/a hostage in negotiating our position.
>>61631278
We'll of course shill for a good agreement, just like Germany would.
But the loss in trade will probably be offset by the increase in FDI as firms relocate to the only English speaking country in the EU.
Migration here will also spike probably, but so long as the economy remains competitive and strong, we should be fine.
>>61631103
What the hell are you talking about?
FG and FF were withing 30k votes of each other. Overall it was a 10.5% drop for FG and a rise of 6.9% for FF.
Some real pragmatic voting, leave us with a minority which will likely fail at the budget
>>61631278
Primarily out imports will be fucked, we'll need to use the continent more.
>>61631519
FG and FF are both up several points in the most recent public opinion poll.
>>61631555
also you export A LOT of agricultural products (meat, dairy etc.) to the UK. Like an absolute fuck load. I wasn't being "cruel" in what I said btw even if my tone was off, Legitimately the UK/Ireland are too intertwined for the EU to punish us too harshly.
>>61631394
The FDI is speculation at this point. If we are closed out from some sectors though I would expect a certain amount of migration to Dublin from the UK jobwise.
>>61627738
Northern Ireland would burst into flame the minute someone even took this idea remotely seriously. And good luck having the rest of Ireland being able to upkeep it.
>>61627818
> Would take 1/3 of revenue
> Would be nearly 1/3 of the population
That's not a problem.
>>61630530
>this guy seems like a real philosopher. I like the way his documentaries allow you (the viewer) to reach your own conclusion.
he literally just takes pictures of black people and whinges about it kek. why are racists so stupid?
>>61631683
Of course it's just speculation. So is the potential impact on our economy.
>>61631821
>upkeep
We could literally sell off 25% of our US debt and be able to fix Northern Ireland (we own about $250bn of US debt iirc), it's not like we don't have the assets.
Northern Ireland would be a net gain to our economy within five years. Public expenditure would decrease, private investment/exports would skyrocket due to Ireland's reputation, our eurozone access, and our low corporation tax.
Hell, people from the North would be able to trade more with the Republic just because we wouldn't need currency exchanges.
"The republic can't afford the north" is a complete and utter fabrication by fear mongering Unionists, aided and abetted by politicians who just want to keep the funds to their local constituency flowing.
>>61631519
FG took harsher budgetary measures than FF did, and they didn't lose as many seats as FF did in 2011.
I would have rathered a FG majority but that wasn't going to happen.
>>61633011
That's not how sovereign debt works. You own treasury bonds, which can't be cashed in at will. They have set maturation periods.
>>61633383
I think he means trade those bonds to a third party for some immediate payoff and they get the maturity.
>>61631108
yawn
>>61628590
If you use -ise it means you are uneducated. Even Oxford recommends -ize.
>>61627430
Like the idea of an Irish Federation. Not sure about the flag.
>>61631116
We're growing at 7% a year famalia, you can't touch us
>>61633782
6%*
...
5%*
Also, what would the Irish Federal anthem be?
Anything but that fucking 'Ireland's Call'.
>>61633752
no it doesn't you doughnut. if you use -ize you can't spell.
>>61633926
Obviously this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv0hlbWpa1w
Or something by the Dropkick Murphys
>>61633951
>Oxford spelling can be recognized by its use of the suffix ‑ize instead of -ise: organization, privatize and recognizable, instead of organisation, privatise and recognisable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxford_spelling
Good lord you Brits are stupid
>>61634059
>listening to experts
lmaoing @ ur life 2bh
>>61633926
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZQoJvI8XUa0
>>61634100
>gets proven wrong
>lmaoing @ ur life 2bh
A FUCKING ASTERISK
>>61627430
No and no one would support that there or anywhere in the world
>>61633383
You know you can sell them to other people right? That's why variable bond rates change.
Are there any actual parties in Ireland calling for a Federal Ireland, or is it just an outside idea?
>>61634825
Just that one crazy group that hasn't been relevant for a hundred years
>>61634825
Just an outside idea, though Fine Gael was contemplating running candidates in Northern Ireland (making them the only party other than Sinn Fein to do so on an all-Ireland basis). No idea if they will bother doing it or not.
>>61634825
The second and third biggest parties both explicitly support reunification.
>>61628872
GIB BAK PALESTINE
>>61628872
As an Irishman I support Israel as long as you erase the palestinians so we stop seeing shit about you lot on the news.
>>61635864
Explicitly Federalism, or just a general, unitary state?
>>61627430
>implying Northern Ireland should be recognised as a separate entity to begin with
Post flags for the most glorious Federal Republic of Ireland.
>>61627430
Looks good to me
>>61636764
Surely it'd just be a step towards getting a fully united Ireland without the North exploding in the meantime?
>>61636539
I don't think anybody has an explicit plan for what a United Ireland would look like, mainly because it's a pipe-dream. I do have to wonder how it could be done constitutionally, the amendments from the Good Friday Agreement probably make federation possible but I'm too dumb to read the legalese. I'd worry that so many constitutional reforms would be needed that it would only be considered practical to give the Dáil a time limited power to amend the constitutional themselves, which seems pretty dangerous.
>>61638090
>I don't think anybody has an explicit plan for what a United Ireland would look like
this concept was popular among some republicans a few decades ago: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Éire_Nua
What are the demographics in NI? What are the birth rates between the communities?
>>61627430
Who gives a shit what happens on a few inbred fucking Islands
>>61638458
It doesn't matter now, most "Irish"/Catholic background there are becoming small 'u' unionists because of Westminster welfare.
>>61627430
>Kingdom of England and Wales
Nice try, but it's just the Kingdom of England. Wales doesn't deserve to be included in the name, like the good old days. Get that childish dragon of St. George's cross.
>>61638687
But do they identify as Irish people? Nationalism makes people do stupid things, in the UK we bribe Scotland to stay in the UK under a thing called the Barnett formula and they still want to leave because of nationalism. English national voted the UK out of the EU because of "bloody continentals" I imagine nationalism among Irish people in NI must be stronger because of the weight of history.
>>61638858
>But do they identify as Irish people?
They usually do, sometimes they meme it up and call themselves "Northern Irish" despite it not being a real ethnicity but I think that's more of a Protestant thing. The truth is that nowadays a lot of Irish people are very apathetic about their nationalism and will drop it for the chance at some welfare.
>>61638858
>But do they identify as Irish people?
You can identify as Irish in the north and still see yourself as British or Northern Irish. They are not mutually exclusive to some. What does seem to be occurring is more people identifying as Northern Irish chiefly rather than just Irish or British.
>>61639063
>>61639125
That is interesting, I suppose it makes sense as NI is pretty unique from Roi or GB
Lads pls gib passport. My granny was Irish but not born there :((
>>61637057
Red on green is ugly af bro
>>61639344
I think it's time we reformed our citizenship laws. Make it mandatory to show minimal competence in Irish at least.
>>61637057
>>61639404
This. If you can't cite at least five Father Ted quotes you get your citizenship revoked
>>61639598
>Father Ted
British TV show 2bh :^)
>>61627430
All rightful English clay desu
>>61639598
Father Ted is a good show but going on about it is worse paddywhackery than "DAE Tayto vs King"
>>61640142
Like it or not it's a cultural touchstone that all Irish people are familiar with. It's basically our Qur'an
>>61640364
Not an argument. Still a British programme :^)
>>61640364
>tfw Irish people have become so Anglo and bereft of their own culture they're obsessed with using insubstantial shit like crisp brands and one good sitcom that was made in England as markers of identity
Britain can have Father Ted, Ireland can claim Mrs. Brown's Boys.
>>61640560
By that logic James Bond is American
>>61627627
Not that I'm against that idea, but why South Africa?
>>61640852
But James Bond is produced by Eon Productions, a British production company albeit founded by an American, and is made at Pinewood Studios in the UK.
>>61640560
No one cares mate. If you're trying to riles us up try harder lad
>>61640961
I thought the production studio was owned by an American company, suppose I'm wrong then .
>>61641042
I think it is actually.
>>61627627
>Irish federation should just be Ireland.
This is true. The question is to what to name the jursidiction which currently constitutes the state of Ireland. "Republic of Ireland" doesn't make sense because presumably the whole state is a republic. My vote is Saint de Valera Territory.
>lol stupid europeans, don't you realize the Iliad is greek? don't you have any literature of your own?
>>61628498
>>61627818
Good proxy m8
>>61641193
Malvinas takeback when?
England conquered Wales and Ireland, and then cucked scotland, and gradually they've lost everything.
What happened? Did the English simply give up on life?
>>61627430
It should be called the Welsh empire
>>61629771
literally nothing wrong with this every capital is like that
also FOY dont film me or my country ever again
>>61641273
All our best lads died in the world wars
>>61641273
>what happened
>>61641273
FUCK OFF
>>61640719
No we'll just take both.
You can keep the cube.
>>61641245
Soon
>>61628444
>tfw met Irish people who didn't realise the state is not actually named "Republic of Ireland"
>>61641038
still not an argument.
>>61641813
It's called Southern Ireland officially, right?
>>61640852
& by yours Game of Thrones is British?
>it's a "proxy fag and brits take a hissy fit" episode
>>61639388
Is that an Irish Gommunism flag?
>>61642331
Yes, proving how stupid that logic is.
>>61628872
>fictional king's star as emblem
I think Scotland leaving the Union could be the trigger for a united Ireland. Unionists identify with the Union (naturally) and don't really have any ties with England. Ethnically, religiously and historically the Unionist communities have stronger ties with Scotland.
TL;DR Scotland is the first domino.
>>61642963
I'd say so only if they prospered from doing so more than staying with them.
>>61628113
soon
>>61643095
Agreed, I think it'll come down to economics - and given that the British government really, really doesn't give a shit about NI, I can't imagine the economic future is too rosy.
>>61643133
It was supposed to be a Pan-Celtic union, but Wales and Cornwall messed it up.
>>61642963
They only really emphasised their Scottish connection and loyalism as a means to an end, their identity has largely been constructed around Presbyterianism/anti-Catholicism and loyalism to the crown.
>>61642963
>Ethnically, religiously and historically the Unionist communities have stronger ties with Scotland.
Then isn't it just as likely they'd join an independent Scotland?
>>61643283
No because Scotland would never ever agree to it.
>>61643283
>Scotland wanting NI
hahahahaahahah
>Unionists want to join Scotland.
>Nationalists want to join Ireland.
>N.I. becomes the final link in creating the Hiberno-Scottish Federation.
>>61643473
Nah it would never work, Scots are too anti-Gaelic.
>>61643261
Some Loyalists aren't too fond of the British government either due to what they see as a capitulation to Nationalists with the GFA, and they obviously aren't too fond of the SNP. They really don't have many friends left.
>>61643920
I read there was a brief 'Independence for Northern Ireland' movement, but it died out.
Exciting times folks three weeks ago would you of guessed you would even seriously thinking some of this...?
>>61644419
Britain is trying hard to make /int/'s crazy hypothetical threads a reality.
>>61643283
Ulster Protestants are extremely conservative/anti-degeneracy religious fanatics basically time travelled from the 1600s, while the Scots have become full on POZ swapping, nigger loving, holocaust affirming, halal eating dick shitting feminist leftists.
A Union of the two would be hilarious to say the least
>>61627430
>Irish still trying to landgrub
>"It must be ours because it's on the same island"
Nationalist forces are already stirring in Europe. The last thing you need is to make yourself a target of the UK again.
>>61646520
>it must be ours because it's on the same island
So all those years of it actually being a whole Island with no third party involvement and before it was a separate entity just up and went, right?
There literally isn't a country more land grubby than yours.
>>61646520
The funny thing is, I don't really think nationalism is the big question here, but economics.
I read somewhere that Northern Irish farmers are far more dependent on EU subsidies than other parts of the UK.
>>61646693
It's more like they never existed. It's like claiming Saxon England was a unified force.
>inb4 muh High King
>>61646520
EXTREMELY good post.
>>61646693
this is a troll post right? Well here's your (You.) Bogniggers were killing each other left, right and centre before we turned up to keep the peace...
>>61643191
>implying the brythonic master race would ever want a union with gay-licks
>>61646907
>inb4 muh King
More like inb4 actual evidence that refutes my claims so I'll beat him to it by saying inb4.
That still wasn't the point, besides that it was a country without a third party involvement, I.e you.
>>61646952
>killing each other left and right
And you weren't?
Your country literally fought the same way. War of the roses for example. Don't flatter yourself lad.
>>61628843
Why wasn't that made clear when your countrymen wrote it all over the island?
>>61646952
>Keep the peace
>Almost wiping out an entire language, people, race, and identity.
Who taught you how to keep the peace? The US?
>>61647201
When an event literally called "the emergency" comes along you don't really care about the details more than the point of it getting across.
>>61628843
>Éire
Even if you become united again and the language becomes revived, the english name is still Ireland. The English name of a country is the name of a country. You're not special. We don't call Sweden Sverige, stop trying to correct people for saying Ireland when they're speaking English. Jesus Christ it's annoying. Someone missing a little mark doesn't change what they meant. Éire is still Ireland, and the official name will always be Ireland even if Irish is the only spoken language there.
>>61647227
t. fucking hypocrite
what you did to the natives is extremely disgusting and you ought to be ashamed of yourself.
>>61647800
We are. But at least we admit what we did was wrong. Furthermore, good job making yourself look like a complete retard and ignoring the fact that I referenced that and that the post was a joke. Did you even read the bottom part or did you just read the greentext?
>>61646091
Where's that pic of your man saying Ulster Protestants were Israelis and the most ancient people in Britain and Ireland.
>>61647457
Did you completely miss the context of his post? He said himself the name of the country is Ireland not Eire.
The constitution gives the official name of the state explicitly as Ireland in the English language (Éire being the Irish). The use of "Eire" (not Éire) in English became controversial as (up until 1998) the British government and media made a point of it using it rather than "Ireland", in particular because its use would be seen to legitimise the republic constitutional claim to the north. That wasn't that long ago so Brits often still use of names like "Eire", "Southern Ireland", "Irish republic" etc. even when Ireland would be unambiguous. It doesn't help that the soccer team is actually called "Republic of Ireland", which serves to promote a myth that there is no state called "Ireland".
>>61634100
I thought you Brits stopped listening to experts just a week ago?
>>61628872
>implying it is fictional
