What went wrong?
>>61587404
c*ristianity
>>61587404
Barbarians not being killed off and being integrated
ask /his
>>61587404
Germans killed Europe
>>61587512
/his/ is a meme board not too far from /pol/, unfortunately.
>>61587404
You once had an empire too, you should know.
With time this world domination thing becomes boring, it's better to devote yourself to gay sex and good food.
>>61587404
nothing lasts forever
I kind of miss Roman rule, Wales was quite civilised back them
>>61587448
not only that
people speaking those bar-bar languages not willing to fight or work sitting instead down living off benefits
Germans and Arabs ruined everything
>>61587404
Britaxit
>tfw you will never go out to fight barbarian hordes for the glory of Rome with your contubernium
>tfw you will never go to a bath all day with said contubernium
>>61587404
Germans
>>61587404
german always ruin everything
>>61587404
Vid related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVWx_Dqod_Q
>>61588304
>>you will never go out to kill the barbarians
Want to fight barbarians Hans? You can still accomplish that with suicide.
>>61587433
/thread
Jews. And frog posters.
>>61588374
what a load of bullshit
>>61587433
Christianity turned the Roman empire into the Catholic church
>>61588409
>mfw Caesar killed one million barbarian Gauls
Germanic barbarians
>>61588374
I fucking love Varg.
>>61588374
dumb vargposter
>>61588374
>Thats what he sees when someone is not opening the door by himself
>Germans fucked everything up by being barbarians
>Rome fucked up by trying to promote multiculturalism.
History really fucking does repeat itself.
Turning to feudalism combined with massive invasions. Also Empire has not really fallen, it was slow and gradual transition. People were sure they live in a Roman Empire until 1000s. First empire economy had an era of turbulence with transition to feudalism. Second Empire was fighting invasions of barbarian chiefs. Regions of Empire started seceding from it on an ethnic basis creating vassal relationships of feudalism. Empire let some barbarians settle and lasted for some time with this because Goths gave new recruits and became romanised very quickly but Atills invasion finally crushed the centralized power of Empire and Emperor finally became a symbolic person ruling nothing. Barbarians who came romanised very wuicky though and maintained roman culture for ages before transition of it into the European medieval culture which made enable the possibility of Renaissance.
Also the big problem was a Christianity and other cults which became popular in late roman empire. Society became more conservative and sectarian violence became more popular resulting in increasing grade of economy decline.
>implying anything went wrong
>>61587404
They didn't core all provinces or change culture, they should also have kept autonomy values higher and hired advisors to reduce revolt risk
>>61589070
What's the point of this map? Why not do it as percentage of population??
>>61587404
I just realized for the first time that Neapolis is Napoli
I am retarded
>>61587404
Serbs
>>61588969
>>Rome fucked up by trying to promote multiculturalism.
>He believes in the 'Romans promoted multiculturalism' meme
Romans didn't have the power to forcefully assimilate all their subject populations, though they tried via Italian colonization (hence why France and Iberia speak Latin languages). In reality, they hated non-Greek cultures so much that it wasn't until the first century AD that ethnic Italians from Gaul and Iberia were even allowed in the senate, because the Romans believed living their corrupted with with barbarity.
>>61587404
So... We make the Empire great again?
Muslims
>>61587404
It opposed the will of God and had to be discarded.
>>61589223
fuck the pope
>>61589239
Fuck Israel.
>>61589223
Praise the Pope!
>>61588969
Actually the latter they performed greatly, all the barbarians became Romanized in a few decades, it's a good result for modern age and it was really great for antiquity. Even fuckin vandals famous for being total retards were cosplaying Romans with wine and bathes when Arabs came.
>>61589223
Deus Vult!
>>61587433
>what is bryzantine empire
>>61587404
Nothing
Caeasr is an ancestor of youngest windsor baby (don't remember name)
So basically one family and one region (w. europe) rules the world for over 2k years
>>61589223
High Francisco
>>61589175
They were xenophobic but the other fact is that people in Roman empire became Romanized extremely fast even by modern standards. There was actually no cultural issues in fall of Roman empire, it was pure economical and military thing. The only thing linked to culture was a sectarian violence caused by spreading Christianity and society becoming more conservative.
>>61589223
Deus Vult!
We are waiting for your calls
>>61589223
Please assassinate the commie Argie pope. Be our hero.
>>61589416
>one region (w. europe) rules the world for over 2k years
Well, it's nit correct. Roman Empire ruled only MENA, France and southern Europe, no China or India involved. Before the 1400s Europe was an irrelevant shithole. Than Mongol invasion happened and shitted countries from China to Egypt not touching Europe at all (it's the reason why the Russia is retarded compared to the West). So Europeans got the handicap and invented capitalism first becomin world hegemons.
>>61589504
He is not long for this world anyway.
>>61587404
KERNOW HA CYMRU BYDNER CORCHFYKW
>>61591018
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>61589223
Post proof that you're not a proxy.
>>61589543
>This fucking delusion
Uncontrolled immigration, women's rights, fragmentation of power.
Dividing the empire into Western & Eastern was the greatest mistake ever made.
>>61592260
At least the eastern part survived for almost a millennia more.
>>61587433
first post best post
>>61587580
well well, talk me about /int/
>>61592260
>women's rights
Oh wow. Are you serious? Late roman empire was extremely conservative due to Christianity.
>immigration
Actually it was what helped empire last longer. Barbarians who were allowed to live in empire were Romanized very quickly giving empire more recruits to fight Atilla and more retarded barbarians than previous ones.
>>61589381
never heard of the bryzantine empire
>>61587404
>What went wrong?
Pestilence essentially, wide a side of overextension in the wrong directions.
Caracalla and the continual political instability were pretty bad too.
>>61594121
>Actually it was what helped empire last longer.
Well considering the empire fell due to the germans already in rather than the ones pushing from outside, one would argue that they killed it.
That said, the situation is not like nowadays. The germs had to be let in because after the plague there was like noone left on the northern frontiers.
>>61589223
jew
>>61587404
Overextension.
Grew too large to manage effectively at the time.
>>61589223
>>61589257
FUCK THE POPE
>>61587404
The eternal kraut
>>61587433
>t. uneducated muslim
The eastern part was more christian than the western empire and still survived.
>>61587404
The Dictatorship fell and was replaced by a Republican Senate again. Corruption reemerged which literally became the end of Rome.
This mans come and fuck your everything
:-DDD
>>61587433
HNNNNNNG
>>61587433
>debunked bullshit theory from the enlightenment.
>>61600364
yeter amk her tiradda bunu görüyorum
>>61600488
bizde resim çok gülüm :d
The eternal teuton got to it
>>61600606
>>61587404
Shitty governing methods.
>Italians
>governing properly
It caused civil wars and revolts which barbarians took advantage of to strike the Coup De Grâce
To put it simply, Belgians
If the Franks hadn't fucked up Soissons and Gaul with their Memepire, Byzantium could have cakewalked the Justinianic reconquest
>>61587404
unconquered bitchez
>>61588374
>stabs a man on the back to death
>becomes honorable viking traditionalist
Typical
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crisis_of_the_Third_Century
>>61588374
how can one man be so retarded
>>61587404
>what went wrong?
Socialism, immigration, atheism, liberalism and restriction of gun ownership.
>>61587433
Their borders were too wide and they didn't have the manpower to protect it all.
>>61587404
There are many factors and even if I typed them all out here nobody would even fucking read them because this boards is filled with inbred retards and normies who want to call eachother non white and pretend they aren't /pol/ lite
>>61603250
10/10
hunnic fucking shits
refugees
>>61589257
wtf i love the pope now
>>61589070
>Atheistugal
>>61587580
>not too far from /pol
lol this is bullshit
>>61589011
russian guy knows his shit
>>61588747
delet
>>61603250
literally this thread
>>61587404
Didn't christianize the arabs to a great enough extent before the time of Mohammad
>>61587580
they're pretty neutral, if not left leaning actually.
there are a few poltards here and there, but eh, they infest this site like roaches
>>61611692
You mean like Turks :-)
>>61587433
based
Purely a military defeat at the hands of invaders caused by climate change
The degeneracy thing is just a meme
>>61587404
Gay, alcohol, democracy, forgetting Pantheon gods.
>>61587404
Literally pic related
>>61589070
God bless
>>61589381
... exactly.
>>61589223
Cur non emisti restem suspendio?
>>61589223
The Roman Empire survived through all the Middle Age (and it has been a first "Europa") with the name of Sacred Roman Empire, Francesco
>>61587404
There are two official reasons:
- the "barbar invasions" theory (bullshit)
- the lost of muh latin appartenance theory
Roma actually "exported democracy" (or, well, "its" democracy) and the "product" they sold was regarded as valuable between the populations involved. "Divide et impera" (leaving regional customs alive) was a way to "attract" populations to Roma. There were mainly a latin and a roman citizenship.
With the time and the riches, the army switched from a compulsory army for all roman citizens to an army of mercenaries.
A nation that does not have a mandatory army is half a nation, people were interested only in living the NEET life and accepted the barbarian invasions and various jewish tricks to keep the old empire alive (with the fictio iuris named in the latin brocardium "unum imperioum unum ius")
Man it's a complex and long story and 2bh I should have followed what my m8 >>61603358 suggested
tl;dr read a book
>>61614204
>Sacrum
>Imperium
>Romanum
Enjoy lads, feed your heads:
http://thehistoryofrome.typepad.com/the_history_of_rome/2007/07/index.html
>>61587404
Around Krauts, watch out.
>>61614666
>Germany caused WWI
whatever you say satan
>>61614697
Austrians are Germans.
>>61614719
Then so are the english
>>61614733
How so?
>>61587433
>decline of rome starts when it's still fully pagan
>hurr christianity killed rome!!!!
>>61614761
>anglo-SAXONS
>>61587404
Italians bit off more than they could chew. A large professional army was no longer profitable, leading to an overreliance on mainland European troops.
>>61587404
The lack of a peaceful and consistent system of succession for the emperors, concentration of wealth and several world-ending plagues.
>>61614814
They make up part of us, but so do many other peoples. It's not even close to comparable to the Austrian situation whereby they historically inhabited the same nation as their fellow Germans (the HRE) and even today speak the same language as them.
Austrians only stopped considering themselves Germans after their spat with Prussia.
>>61614204
>The Roman Empire survived through all the Middle Age (and it has been a first "Europa") with the name of Sacred Roman Empire
Padano pls. I understand you want your heritage to feel more important, but the true successor was the Byzantine Empire. Constantine relocated the capital to Constantinople during his reign. Needless to say, the empire controlled by the barbarians was vastly inferior in all levels compared to the real one until it's fall.
>>61614920
>East could've united Rome again but the fucking italians didn't want to anymore and the pope wouldn't give up power
>>61587404
White people. You see the first romans was ruled by kings who was black. Tarquinius superbus the last black king of rome was overthrown by the whiteys who ruled rome for a couple of centuries. Until sulla the great black general overthrew the whiteys and exterminated them in the social war. Now blacks was running rome again and a whitey wasnt seen in the region again until it was sacked by alaric and the whiteys eventually killed or sent the black romans to africa. Julius caesar was black
>>61587404
>Long ass comment ahead
>The Byzantines have been defeated.
>In the nearest land. But they, after their defeat, will overcome.
>Within three to nine years. To God belongs the command before and after. And that day the believers will rejoice
>In the victory of God . He gives victory to whom He wills, and He is the Exalted in Might, the Merciful.
>[It is] the promise of the Lord . God does not fail in His promise, but most of the people do not know.
>They know what is apparent of the worldly life, but they, of the Hereafter, are unaware.
>Do they not contemplate within themselves? God has not created the heavens and the earth and what is between them except in truth and for a specified term. And indeed, many of the people, in [the matter of] the meeting with their Lord, are disbelievers.
>Have they not traveled through the earth and observed how was the end of those before them? They were greater than them in power, and they plowed the earth and built it up more than they have built it up, and their messengers came to them with clear evidences. And God would not ever have wronged them, but they were wronging themselves.
>Then the end of those who did evil was the worst [consequence] because they denied the signs of God and used to ridicule them.
>God begins creation; then He will repeat it; then to Him you will be returned.
>And the Day the Hour appears the criminals will be in despair.
>And there will not be for them among their [alleged] partners any intercessors, and they will [then] be disbelievers in their partners.
>And the Day the Hour appears - that Day they will become separated.
>And as for those who had believed and done righteous deeds, they will be in a garden [of Paradise], delighted.
>But as for those who disbelieved and denied Our verses and the meeting of the Hereafter, those will be brought into the punishment [to remain].
>So exalted is God when you reach the evening and when you reach the morning.
>>61589223
Rare
>>61589070
Feels kind of bad
