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Within 25 years, these countries will be stable middle class nations responsible for the majority of the worlds economic growth.

Prove me wrong.
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Not if we nuke them first.
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Only ones on there I could agree with are Turkey and Mexico.
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You have to go back
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EU is falling, Trump is the republican nominee, BRICS are ded, US-led globalization is being rejected. the future is unsure as ever
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>>61453339
Poland, China, Peru and Thailand are plausible too.
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>Mongolia
What
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So, the inca empire is going to return?
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yep
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>>61453366
>US-led globalization
>America
>socialism
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>>61453383
No way for Poland. People are fleeing, and they're moving backwards. China, well, is China. I think most of Peru is still too poor, but they will get their eventually, and Thailand is a meme.
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>>61453429
>implying the EU and multiculti shit aren't US made propaganda to weaken national governments, cultural values and give more power to the media and multibillionaires that control international trade, increasing economical disparity.
The reason you guys are electing Trump is literally because of what I said. Because most billionaires are simply moving the jobs toward the third world instead of manufacturing it in the USA
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>>61453471
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>>61453542

It's unlikely Trump will be elected.
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>>61453659
everybody said the same to Brexit 2bh
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>>61453288
This one is better
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>>61453429
Holy shit so dumb
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>>61453659
>Brexit will never happen, the polls couldn't possibly change!
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>>61453339
I can easily imagine Mexican colonies on the moon and Turkey leading the EU with Germany.
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>>61453288
And Brazil.
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>>61453892
>just because brexit happened, doesn't mean trump will win!
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>>61453429
>he doesn't realise that globalization is an Anglo-American scheme

hence the hilarity of Brexit
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>>61453915
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>>61453804
Most of those make sense, but why the losses for Italy and Brazil?
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>>61454033
>Anglos spend a century building up a globalist apparatus to control the world
>Decide they don't like it because they have to interact with outsiders
>Anglos leave this power structure to pursue isolationism without dismantling it
>Germans, Spics and Chinks are left the dominant force in the globalized economy and utilize it to dominate the world

Thanks.
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Mexico strong !

>>61454131
I like Carstens 2bh
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>>61454189
Brazil and Italy have screwed themselves economically and are going to face demographic and tax issues in the near future.
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>>61453288
>Prove me wrong.
In the modern world, the production chains of the biggest companies in the world are disseminated throughout the places where they have comparative advantages. Places like China, India and Vietnam have a comparative advantages in their low wages, meaning that they are the montage portion in the world's manufacturing process.

When the wages rise to untolerable levels in those countries, the multinational companies will shift towards the poorer ones (africa, other asians), leaving nothing behind, since they take special measures to ensure that no know-how is spilled over the receptive country.

And thus, the industrialization process in china will stop as soon as they reach higher standard of livings. Of anything that has the "Made in China" label, at most, 20% of that product was made in actual China. Most of the product's value comes from transport, marketing, sales, research and development, etc.

There is your proof.
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>>61453996

We're past that.

Tbh just stable things and live along.
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>>61454265
DELET THIS
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>>61453288
>Mongolia
Does something even happen in that country? I mean, it's a country with one and half million km of area and just 3 million of habitants
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>>61453892
>>61453676
Polls were pretty much saying truth on Brexit though. It was pendulum swinging from one side to the other with minimal leads.
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>>61454293
China however has actually started to focus on producing their own content through value added supply networks. Here's a minor example. Samsung phones were just ten years ago were manufactured in China with 10% Chinese parts (mostly plastics) with the rest of the parts content imported from Korea. Five years in, these Samsung phones begin to use Chinese components, such as LCD displays. Now Samsung opens a factory in Vietnam two years ago. Labor in China for simple assembly has risen, but now the Chinese competently manufacture components. My Galaxy phone was built in Vietnam with a Chinese PCB, battery and LCD, with only the processor built in Korea. As such, these Chinese component suppliers now also make parts for Huawei, Apple/Pegatron, and LG amongst others.

A similar trend can be seen in Mexico regarding auto parts suppliers supplying German and American owned car factories in Mexico. Economies with higher wages tend to lead to more value added content, which leads to further higher wages. As long as regulation doesn't make these types of industries financially unviable the trend remains. Korea & Japan industrialized this way. China, Mexico, Vietnam and India are following.
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>>61454359
Massive amongst of lithium, live stock, natural resources and arable land that the Chinese want. They're set for the foreseeable future.
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>>61453288
Indonesia and India wil l take longer, rest seems accurate. Might want to add Azerbaijan, Tunisia, Georgia and Ecuador though.
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>>61453804
>Saudi Arabia
One can dream
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>>61454515
So when it goes to some African nation China will do the processor, the PCB battery and LCD Vietnam and said African natiion the plastics?
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>>61453471

i bet you dont know shit about any of those countries, fatyfuck
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>>61453288
Seems too optimistic, but hopefully I'm just being a cynic.
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>>61454690
You tell me, Fong.
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>>61454515
Fair enough.

But that also rises another question, about what is going to happen later. Korea is already rising concern about their industry getting hollow, since most of their productive chain is moving overseas. A simple example can be seen in the US and the tech support, or the back office tasks.
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>>61454942
Simple. Protectionism to keep supply chains local, like what Germany and Japan do.
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>>61455008
>Protectionism to keep supply chains local, like what Germany and Japan do.
How exactly? Wouldn't that be against the WTO?
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>>61455358
Putting tariffs on imports for specific industries. Kind of like how Trump wants to put a 25% tariff on imported cars. IRL, it only works when you implement it before the industry has already shifted overseas, otherwise you just create multiple problems.
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>>61453288
don't count with Colombia
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>>61455408
>Putting tariffs on imports for specific industries. Kind of like how Trump wants to put a 25% tariff on imported cars. IRL, it only works when you implement it before the industry has already shifted overseas, otherwise you just create multiple problems.
But that is against the WTO and you risk sanctions.
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>>61455738
>But that is against the WTO and you risk sanctions.


Yet the Chinese do it for all cars and the US does it on all trucks.
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>>61455358
>Wouldn't that be against the WTO?

HAHAHAHAHA Like the WTO can touch the USA. The WTO is for poor nations that can't ignore it.

See this http://www.npr.org/sections/money/2011/01/26/131192182/cotton
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>>61455933
but according to that article the US decided to follow the demands of brazil made to the WTO
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>>61453288
China, not a chance, unless they end communism.
India has to take care of its street shitting problem before it can worry about anything else.
Mexico is too busy dealing with drug dealers and murderers.
Kazakhstan, maybe. They're already doing relatively well for such an underdeveloped country.
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>>61455791
>>61455933
The world is a hard place if you aren't big
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>>61453288
what did you smoke??? Mexico is going to keep being the same shithole
Also, it's quite hard to make predictions for the next 25 years, i mean, it's hard to make it for the next 5 itself...
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>>61456043
Not really. Japan basically told us to fuck off regarding the importation of cars and Mexico is protectionist with their oil and mining industries.
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>>61453288
> Poland
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>>61456681
>Mexico is protectionist with their oil and mining industries.
How exactly? there are different protectionist policies, tariff is not the only one, but it is one of the policies that risks sanctions.
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>>61453288
there are no good countries south of the usa
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>>61456700
>Germany
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>>61456007
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazil%E2%80%93United_States_cotton_dispute

more in detail.
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>>61453288
I got bad news for any optimism concerning central Asia and the _____-stans
They have kinda reached a tipping point concerning water...
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>stable middle class
>México
lol no, maybe a weird autocracy where we found inner economical independence through cheap mass production and harsh economical practices.
At this point the lower class in the south fights for union's power in a grab anything you can by force scheme. The middle class in the center are white collar exploited consumerists that work 65 hours a week for a salary that only covers the rent of their flat. And industries in the north are being held hostages at gunpoint by the cartel in order to laundry all their money.
God bless this country.
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>>61458211
>At this point the lower class in the south fights for union's power in a grab anything you can by force scheme. The middle class in the center are white collar exploited consumerists that work 65 hours a week for a salary that only covers the rent of their flat. And industries in the north are being held hostages at gunpoint by the cartel in order to laundry all their money.

Sounds just like the US
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>>61458246
>You own a productive farm in south with 800 heads of cattle
>These guys start making settlements inside of it
>You call the authorities and they intervene only because you paid them 200K USD in cash
>They get evicted but they return 2 month later
>They bring weapons now
>You shoot a couple of them and flee from there.
>they start eating your cattle and selling your trucks
Unfortunately these guys get support by socialists in centra Mexico, anyone opposing them gets called a neoliberalist pig or a paid speaker. These guys get behind teacher unions and do whatever the fuck they want.
SAVE US
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>>61458456
How is anyone supposed to help without using force? Would any country even try to help without any benefits for themselves?
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>>61458456
Fucking christ this pisses me off. I know a dude from MX who had something like this happen to him.

>poor indio dude from some shithole village in Chiapas
>works until he's 40 as a farm laborer
>finally makes enough money buy some land and start a small farm
>owns tiny dairy and chicken farm for a few years
>local faggot commie brigade starts hassling him because he owns land on "communal" grounds and won't share his shit
>not even an ejido, he just bought it from another private land owner
>they report him for tax evasion and threaten him and his family regularly
>he's forced to pay off some local government fuckers to clear the false charges
>commies get pissed basically because now he has money and they don't
>wakes up one night to find his property on fire
>cops don't do shit
>has to sell his house to get back any money he had
>ends up migrating here and getting a shit job as a tractor operator in a farm in the middle of nowhere
>now he lives in the US and is perpetually stuck as a lower-middle farm hand after putting in all that work and owning his own farm

Commies need to die. Mexico needs a Pinochet
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>>61458710
Pinochet wasn't that good. though. It was others after him that actually really put in the policies to work. Pinochet was an idiot who ignored many of his economists advice which really ruined the progression since his ideas were counterintuitive.
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>>61458585
Economical sanctions always work. Lower class can survive on its own thanks to the informal market sector, whilst the middle class (10%-20%) can adapt to a shitier life. Done this we'll just have to wait until the higher class bleeds and start to impose real pressure in the government in order to satisfy all of other's nation demands.
Journalism always work, maybe some UN and foreign reporters might help. Is unbelievable how much cases of corruption and illegal activities are known by the average jose in here.
México has opened its borders to the major leagues thanks to NAFTA. Government has enjoyed way too much from it without giving it citizens something in return. Social upraises don't work in here thanks to so many divided political agendas. So this the only plausible way I could come up with.
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>>61453288
>25 years
>Indonesia

Maybe in like 50+ years. The country has serious infrastructure problems that have no plan to be dealt with in the next 10 years.

In all seriousness, 25 years ago was 1991. Which countries have become "stable middle class nations" since then?
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>>61456700
>>61456881
>Both
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>>61453288
>thailand
They are already experiencing decrease in labor force and the country isnt that attractive to draw quality immigrants
>kazakhstan
Their economy is at stake with dropping oil price. They have been doing well but they will really have to develop industry other than digging oils
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>>61458986
Korea and Czech I suppose? It some extents Estonia and other Baltic as well. Chile and Malaysia could have been but I think they will be able to make it in next 25 years
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>>61453804
>France and Germany improving

uhhhh should we tell him?
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>>61453288
>India
half of them shit in the street. Pajet. Go work for your white master in American,you have 45 relatives to feed
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>>61453288
>México
>pretty good, is a spanish colony
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>>61461172
Meanwhile Romania is...Romania.
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>>61453804
Haha saudi wahabi faggot btfo
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No.

First world countries will benefit by far the most from technology automation as poorer countries will be unable to afford it.
500 third world slave-tier workers won't be able to keep up with a single robot.
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>>61453288
>Within 25 years
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>>61453288
>Kazakhstan
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