>Germany tries to conquer Europe for a third time
>gets c*cked by Great Britain yet again
>tries
they already conquered europe
without britain they can finally go with the plans of the fourth reich
But they have even more power within the EU now?
Yeah, and the USA helped!
C'mon, you know the deal.
>>61446120
Can't conquer all of Europe without controlling the UK
>>61443808
>>61446180
Yes, and now everyone wants to leave even more
>>61443808
>But they have even more power within the EU now?
Is that supposed to be impressive?
>>61446180
>>61446313
whoops
>>61443808
Germans are the problem of Europe, Spaniards hate so much Germans and barbarians.
I stay with you uk
>>61446308
Your country's example will be used for those who'd want to leave in the future
https://youtu.be/xWUG-ILrjYs
Thoughts on this guys analysis? His Syrian videos were spot on
>>61446180
Yes Sadly, but brits are smart and they didnt take the euro.
We took the euro and look my country is a fucking ruin.
Fuck u germany
>>61446465
Yeah, the euro is spains problem alright. Not a terrible work ethic and population.
>>61443808
>Britain leaves EU, causing short term and long term economic regression
>jobs will disappear
>currency will be worth less
>banking (one of britain's most important and historic institutions) will flee to the mainland
>Scotland will secede, leaving just little irrelevant England by itself
>EU will not negotiate nearly as good a trade deal, hurting exports
And British posters still see this as a win? I've always known they were among the most autistic posters, but let's be serious.
We'll just have England by itself, with a shit economy and zero relevancy and Brits will still tell us that we're living in "an English world" or something. Pathetic and delusional cumts.
>>61446308
Quite the opposite famalam, the clusterfuck after your referendum made many people look at EU a bit more positively
>>61446591
Wouldn't this depend on how fast the process goes?
>>61446591
It would be great if British government or the Leave camp knew what are they going to do now. Uncertainty is more harmful than anything for economy.
It doesn't appear anyone had a plan for this result. Brits couldn't possibly be more incompetent. There were two possible outcomes ffs.
>>61446552
But at least they have FREEDOM. If anyone you should be the one to understand the appreciation for freedom murica.
>>61446954
Free trade is freedom, shitsucker. They've voted for nationalism and protectionism, which is not freedom.
>>61446640
Cameron doesn't want to trigger article 50 (it takes 2 years to negotiate terms of divorce after Britain invokes it). He's going to leave that decision to his successor, who will be selected until September.
Boris Johnson (probably the next PM) doesn't intend to trigger it, because that would put Britian in a weak position.
European leaders rejected any informal negotiations before the UK invokes article 50, and nobody can force them to do so.
It's a perfect gridlock.
>>61447011
Having your laws dictated by a foreigner isn't freedom retard
>>61446552
>>61447011
>no current jobs forcast to be cut off
>Currency dip just as much as the Euro
>Banking confirmed none are moving to the mainland
>Scotland Seceding would means they will still be left out of the EU
>Doesn't understand how the current situation IMPROVES exports and the deals are for imports
What is delusional is the bubbling fat mountain known as the American chirping in on something he only read from the guardian and thinks this will change anything.
London still is one of the most bank friendly cities in Europe with so many tax cuts and shortfalls to help banks. Many companies basically have free headquaters buildings in London.
The main problems that face the British economy right now is uncertainty. Everything else is a set lock because business prefers the status quo.
>>61447011
They voted against the undemocratic European union. They got their own sovereignty back and are now free to write their own laws without arbitrary restrictions imposed by unelected officials in Brussels. If anything this was a victory for freedom.
>>61447048
Yes, and in what demonstrable way is the EU dictating your laws? Memes aside? Immigration is the only thing that comes to mind, but that is certainly a fair price to pay for access to the single market while still maintaining your own currency.
Literally anything that follows will put you in worse throes. You've been mislead.
>>61446180
No, actually they'll have a harder time controlling the bloc and keeping France from regulating Ev-er-y-thing
>>61446201
Come on, the US didn't even know what the fuck was going on
>>61447110
Hey nice meme. DEMONSTRATE the lack of freedoms imposed by the EU that are not a fair trade off for single market access.
>>61447156
The UK's Fishing areas, something the UK finish industry was fucking destroyed over.
Basically, we did fucking tons in conserving Fishing populations and in turn we got fucked over because Norway wanted more fish to ruin.
>>61447048
Britain was able to shape and veto those laws. Not anymore.
If you choose to stay in the Norway model, you'll have to adhere by those laws, without having a say in them, you'll keep paying into the EU budget (on a similar level than tody, maybe ven more, because you'll lose your rebate) without ability to use the EU strucural funds.
>MUH FREEDOM
why is this meme word still being used as the be all end all in politics? people don't even agree on what it means to begin with
>>61447085
If there is a worse trade deal (which is. logical progression, and has been hinted at), why would any company choose to stay in the UK? It's not worth it.
>>61446543
I find this incredibly ironic coming from someone who lives in Ireland, a country that had a worse crash than Spain due to the Euro. The only reason your economy recovered is because the UK gave Irish banks and the Irish state so many low interest loans and you are trying to say its not the Euro despite all of these economies crashing at the exact same time. Your country is fucking cucked by germany and the uk and you brag about it
>>61446308
The fire rises.
>>61447317
Because the only country where putting your main HQ and buildings in where it would be profitable to move would be Switzerland.... Who just did a referendum of their own and want to remove free movement anyway.
You have no idea how fucking great the city of London is for Businesses do you?
>>61447256
>fish
A vital industry in the Information Age. Much less important than free trade and growing markets.
Not worth killing economic growth for fucking fish.
>>61447110
For British people nothing will change. They will still have no say in the laws. Almost all their politicians support the EU, so what they will do is simply to keep following EU laws.
Until they can elect new political parties, with new politicians that don't support EU, they will still be bound by what Germany and American corporations say.
>>61447085
>London still is one of the most bank friendly cities in Europe with so many tax cuts and shortfalls to help banks. Many companies basically have free headquaters buildings in London.
Most likely we'll see a movement of London-based foreign companies to Dublin.
>>61447266
Why are you such a butthurt bitch in every one of these threads? What do you have against the UK?
>>61446254
>UK
>Europe
Bad meme
>>61447429
Nothing at all. I love Britain, I'll miss you and don't want to see you suffer.
This was incredibly short-sighted decision.
>>61447418
>Dublin
pls come to Warsaw ;_;
t. msc in finance
>>61447418
Ah yes, Dublin.
The Eu's attempt to create another Switzerland only it fucking tanked because the City just tries to stockpile money for itself.
Do you own a company canadacuck?
Why the fuck would you spend millions moving your HQ to a country with LESS benefits given to you to up your running costs just because of a short term windfall?
>>61447429
Because Brits are idiots who constantly overstate their importance, and are in the running for most autistic posters
>>61447491
No, it was a long sighted one.
Saying everything will be destroyed due to a temporary drop is short sighted.
>>61447521
It's a shame americans beat us every time in that regard.
>>61447394
Fish was just an example and plays a heavy part in the UK's economy
>>61447390
Yeah not anymore and probably not ever to the same degree again.
Nice triple A credit rating btw.
Oh wait.
I feel like brexit was the trigger for young people to start voting and we might see a majority for the labour party this time around.
>>61447509
>Why the fuck would you spend millions moving your HQ to a country with LESS benefits given to you to up your running costs just because of a short term windfall?
Because it's a tax haven with a large number of American tech companies already operating there?
>>61447582
At least something good will come out of this
>>61447418
What will happen is that all major financial firms will open up other offices in Dublin, Frankfurt or anywhere else that gives them access to the EU's financial services passport.
The Swiss who also have a major financial sector have branches of their banks in London because it gives them EU access. Now they and other British companies will open branches in the EU.
Nobody is going to move headquarters from London because it's costly and because the UK is still a great place for finance, particularly for American and Non EU financial companies.
>>61447554
Every economist to speak on the subject is predicting long term affects as well. But you, like the rest of the British electorate know more than experts.
>>61447509
>Why the fuck would you spend millions moving your HQ
>implying the financial institutions didn't have the political risk calculated
Oh and here's something to read for you
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_market
>>61447491
Sure I agree and I'd rather not leave the EU, but what's done is done and we can only make the best of it now, our veto was essentially useless we didn't want any laws forced on us at all from the eu that's why people were unhappy
>>61447521
Most people underestimate our importance so if people start acting like arrogant cunts is because we're so fed up of being seen as some irrelevant island
>>61447656
You may want to look at the legal reasons why London became the world's financial capital, even before the EU existed. American and British firms rely on common law financial arbitration when disputes arise.
That's why you'll see all major corporate law suits conducted in America, Britain and Hong Kong. The British legal system is ideal for finance, and the centralized European approach is not.
>>61447618
>>61447656
>Move to ireland
>Move to a worse tax haven
???
I think you people seem to be forgetting how London was THE financial centre of Europe BEFORE the EU and it'll be the financial centre of Europe AFTER.
>>61447639
This guy has it correct, there is zero fucking point in uprooting your entire fucking company when you can have the best of both worlds with ease.
>>61447702
You're absolutely unimportant to global affairs. No might, no sway, and soon no free trade. Worthless.
>>61443808
>the logic of a leave voter
>>61447807
Then why did the Euro tank when we left?
If we're so unimportant, why is London one of the most important cities on earth.
>>61447807
>No might
UK has something like the fifth(?) strongest army
>no sway
Permanent member on the g7/g8
You really are angry
>>61447875
The Euro tanked because of uncertainty.
Let me ask you a question:
If your leadership asked the American, Russian, or Chinese government to perform a task would they do it?
Now consider the inverse.
You've confused having similar political interests with a major power with actually being a power.
Good to know you're basically a city state.
And I've been to London. It was shit.
>>61446543
It's a part of the problem but only a small part of it. The problem was indeed the bad domestic managing of the economy.
Tbh the euro is a political construction, economically it doesn't make any sense without the political project behind. If the political back up fails, so will the euro.
>>61446591
Yes, but only temporarily. If the EU doesn't fix its shit the rise in support will fade again. If shit keeps happening and the EU doesn't act tough on the UK, more countries will eventually leave as well and it'll be the end of the EU. Europe will be divided again, probly along the lines of a transatlantic Europe (Murica) and a continental-eurasian one. And the Nordics on their own.
>>61447965
The UK could not engage any significant power. India could take the Brits.
>>61447789
>>61447795
I am perfectly aware of that and I don't think they will completely leave, but I hate it when people keep spouting the memes about EU working against the free trade.
Actually, it's been working to minimize the administrative burden and create the biggest market on planet Earth for majority of its history.
The EU administration is really cheap in regards to the size of the market within its zone of influence if you compare it to non-eu european economies.
>>61447085
>Currency dip just as much as the Euro
No, GBP/Euro is going down. Why are you even trying to say that both EU and UK drowning would be a good thing?
>>61448096
>India could take the Brits.
Depends who is on the offensive but India has a bigger military than us. This is just cherry picking tho
>>61448096
We both have nukes, no one wins.
>>61448148
Because most you the retards in this thread are taking a small dip in one currency like the end of the world.
The UK is far from going bankrupt, and the low GBP may actually help exports in the short term.
>>61448148
It's good for net exporters who sell outside the EU (ie Germany).
>>61448197
Yes, and that's pathetic. You exercise less mandate than people who shit in the street.
>>61448245
Nukes are just diplomatic desu
>>61447795
>I think you people seem to be forgetting how London was THE financial centre of Europe BEFORE the EU and it'll be the financial centre of Europe AFTER.
It was also the Workshop of the World too.
How's that been working out for you?
>This guy has it correct, there is zero fucking point in uprooting your entire fucking company when you can have the best of both worlds with ease.
Except for that pesky customs union thing.
>>61448245
>implying the belong to the UK
>>61446308
They won't after the EU completely fucks you over trade-wise as a warning to those that dare leave.
>>61443808
>UK attack 1.5 milion Polacks living in
>Soon bombs will darken the sky of every citiy in England.
Rise Polacks. Rise and show them what it means to attack us. Come chaos, come infiinite night!
>>61447965
>Permanent
>tfw England gets the boot after losing the union
>>61448284
Well meme'd
But the UK has a stronger military than Russia, Germany, Japan, Brazil, Canada whatever etc.
>>61448261
Until you have to negotiate a new trade deal, where the EU will enact punitive articles to ensure that other members don't leave.
The market will shrink, jobs will be lost, exports will suffer.
>>61448378
> Russia
No
>implying that the UK did anything aside from sitting on their shitty islands in ww2
>implying taht the UK destroyed anything but itself
You are so proud of yourself, yet you're so stupid.
>>61448358
Good, the time has come brother. We must join our forces with muslims and bomb this place to dust.
Soon i will strike.
>>61448452
Enemy of my enemy is my ally.
>>61447521
Says the American
>>61448437
>Russia
Arguably, it's not the cold war anymore
>>61448310
So basically, the entire economic world suddenly becomes retarded and flies out of London to Dublin and frankfurt..... because of a small amount of economic uncertainty that will be fixed by September.
None of these large banking companies got where they were by being rash.
>>61448346
>Let's fuck over the UK in trade deals out of spite
>WHY ARE DENMARK AND SWITZERLAND LEAVING?
>>61448394
>The EU will purposely tank it's own economy just to teach those nasty brits a lesson
Hahahaha, these fucking Europhiles are adorable.
I mean fucking hell nigga, you know the UK is going to be the EU president next year?
>>61448261
It also makes imports (Which have a value twice as big as exports, in the UK) more expensive.
Also
>small dip
It literally reached the lowest point in 31 motherfucking years.
>>61448503
Nigga we number one indisputably. Even Putin admitted it.
>>61448513
>SWITZERLAND LEAVING
The drop in the British IQ average when Scotland goes is going to be staggering.
>>61448513
>you know the UK is going to be the EU president next year?
There are already talks about that. Dunno if the will be able to take that from Britain, but whatever.
>>61448510
Spending is not indicative. It's assets, equipment, manpower, supply, materials. Russia has this in spades over you, and plenty still stockpiled from years past.
You know it too.
>>61448513
>SWITZERLAND
>>61448637
Yea fair enough
>>61448513
>Brits will have their cake and eat it too
Who lied to you?
>>61448510
>it's not the cold war anymore
it's the cold war again
>>61448637
>assets, equipment, manpower, supply, materials
Of all these, only manpower doesn't need regular maintenance and replacement.
>>61443808
If people in England are this delusional, you twits deserve everything that is coming to you.
My only hope is that ireland unifies and scotland leaves.
That way you don't drag the good parts of britain down with your sinking ship.
>>61448503
Well, they're the only ones that can say it, desu.
>>61448568
Even though the Scots were right for voting remain it's not because of their IQ
http://www.scotsman.com/news/scotland-lags-europe-in-iq-league-1-487587
>>61448736
>manpower doesn't need regular maintenance
it kinda does tbqh
>>61448701
UKIP
http://www.politico.eu/article/post-brexit-ukip-wants-tariff-free-access-to-eu-single-market/
>>61448510
>it's not the cold war anymore
good joke
>>61448595
They can't, it would literally go against the laws of the EU.
The point is; a bad divorce will hurt everyone. Only the obvious anti-brits think causing the UK to tank will be useful to anyone at all.
Germany is particular in this and will 100% champion the idea of Britain being in the free market. The two countries economies are far too interlinked.
>>61448701
Of course they will. The real thing is the EU and UK will basically try and placate the issue 100%
Let me just ask all you Anti-brits in this thread.
What does Europe Profit from for shutting the UK out of the free market?
>>61448701
Its a delusion at this point. Merkel is going to take a big shit on Britain if only to set an example.
>>61448790
But it's hardly comparable between different countries, lad.
>>61448856
>Merkel
>The biggest advocate for UK to have a close relationship with the EU still
Not really helping your case Americuck.
Even Junker is saying he wants the relationship to remain constructive.
>>61448856
And we deserve it desu, hope it wakes those brexit arseholes up
>>61448853
>What does Europe Profit from for shutting the UK out of the free market?
It's very survival is dependent on freedom of movement of goods, people, services and capital.
If you pick it apart the whole thing will crash down
>>61449005
Why? Because it would be certain that Denmark, the Netherlands and essentaily France will quit too
There is no Union without France
>>61446552
BUT MUH SOVEREIGNTY???????
also remember 48% voted to stay, the poor and the old voted to leave
>>61448378
Countries with nukes dont go to war with each other.
>>61447048
not like they dictated our foregin policy or ran our nhs
they fucking told us how straight our bananas should be
and besides, we had considerable influence in making those very laws.
>>61446591
It's been 4 days you utter moron.
If in a year, or two, or three, the EU looks shit and GB looks great economically, it'll prove the EU is shit. And the EU has struggled post recession, especially compared to the US, so there's a good chance GB will be proven right.
Nothing short term is economically significant.
>>61448853
>What does Europe Profit from for shutting the UK out of the free market?
EU survival, m8. Obviously if you only think about economic issues it doesn't really make sense, but from a political perspective it perfectly makes sense, the european institutions HAVE TO show the other members that leaving the EU is no joke.
>>61446269
UK is black alright.
>>61447256
fishing is way lower than 0.5% of our economy
services is like 80%, and we just made our economy more closed.
youre an absolute moron
>>61448503
Because it's true.
>>61449245
>especially compared to the US
Only a retard compares the US economy to any other country. Once the dollar loses its special status, your economy goes under for years or decades.
>labour party implosion resulting in no real government opposition
>unelected PM will be free to do as he pleases
Taking Back Control™
>>61449096
Let's make this simple.
We all know the UK will keep access to the Free market, anything else causes problems for the EU.
The issue is placating the Immigrant issue.
Denmark don't like Schengen Area.
Neither does Switzerland.
UK joining the Schengen Area is probably a no-go.
So what we'll need to see is will the Schengen Area be revised to acommodate the UK or will the UK get access to the free market without being in the Schengen Area sort of like how the Republic of Ireland is now.
>>61449274
Yeah, and then say goodbye to Denmark and Switzerland, who are in a position the UK is fighting for.
>>61447394
You realise that there are no significant growing markets inside the EU, and that our trade deficit with the EU has been increasing ever since we first joined?
>>61449110
Yea and the rich and young were too fucking lazy to vote
>>61447795
Also, on a non-economic level, don't a lot of bankers, especially younger ones, expect a certain kind of lifestyle? The kind London can provide, but Dublin or Frankfurt can't; a lot of people are attracted to banking jobs because of the prestige.
>>61449395
We aren't in the Schengen area, though.
>>61447807
You can find "global importance metrics" infographics that prove you wrong. GB is top 5 global power, military, culturally, and soft power. Maybe top 3 in some categories.
>>61449455
He didn't say we were, you fucking idiot.
>>61449395
>UK joining the Schengen Area is probably a no-go.
What are you even trying to say, mate? What the fuck
>>61449395
>So what we'll need to see is will the Schengen Area be revised to acommodate the UK or will the UK get access to the free market without being in the Schengen Area
So, like it was before, then?
>>61449274
Fighting for survival against the will of the people is what will lead to the EU's collapse (and has already begun to). People want less integration, but Brussels, and the EU political class in general, live in an echo chamber.
Here's a radical idea - why not do what the people want and go back to being a trading bloc?
>>61449447
>Frankfurt can't
Frankfurt is in a huge urban area.
Besides there's Paris, they already spend their holidays there.
>>61449501
The UK will probably get access to the Euro free market, but will probably not be forced into the Schengen Area as part of the deal.
It'll basically the the stance the UK always wanted.
Trade deals with the EU without all the movement and civic laws.
>>61449537
Exactly, people expecting the UK to be punished or for anything to change don't know economics.
Nobody wants the UK dying because the domino effect would rip up the EU economy.
>>61449571
Paris is a lolretarded city for economics. It's public transport is fucking retarded for one.
>>61448096
UK is most culturally significant country on Earth after the US:
http://softpower30.portland-communications.com/ranking/
Militarily they're top 5.
Your claim that they aren't globally important or whatever it is is objectively wrong and too ignorant for a board on international culture.
It's almost as dumb as saying "Germany doesn't wield great influence in the EU."
>>61449617
>The UK will probably get access to the Euro free market, but will probably not be forced into the Schengen Area as part of the deal.
You're insane if you think that this will actually happen. We'll be like Norway.
>>61449564
>People want less integration
That's not true at all, here in Italy A LOT like A LOT of politicians support the idea of United States of Europe. The problem is that the Commission and the Parliament nowadays decide about pretty much everything, even how we should cook pizza or how we should cultivate basilica. We should instead try to unify things like the army and finance, instead of making laws about things that national Staes should care of.
The United Kingdom is the only country which has always seen the European Union as an economic bloc and not as a political entity.
>>61449734
... No shit? That was the entire plain of Brexit to begin with?
Keep the trade, remove the politics.
>>61449617
Funny, that you mention Merkel
Yesterday, she specifically said this won't happen
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/28/brussels-eu-summit-leaders-push-quick-divorce-cameron-germany-brexit
>>61449475
>You can find "global importance metrics" infographics that prove you wrong. GB is top 5 global power, military, culturally, and soft power.
Oh lordy, the UK is more fucked than a SA80.
>>61449790
Ok, it looks like there's some kind of a misunderstanding
UK won't be and can't be forced into the Schengen (and no one wants that afaik), but you'd have to keep free movement of labour if you want to remain in the common market.
>>61449824
Funny how she was mentioning it before.
Merkel is flip flopping in front of the EU but the fact is the UK needs to be placated.
This is why I said it'll probably see revisions of the Schengen Area over direct favoritism.
>>61449952
It'll see revisions to placate the UK of course.
I fully expect to see Free movement of labour. The Issue with European Immigration is just that.
If people get jobs in the UK and move over for those jobs, that's fantastic.
People moving over THEN finding jobs is the issue.
>>61443808
But you are actually the good guys now.
>>61449957
She said there's no need to antagonise you and you'll probably get the Norway model.
That doesn't mean access to the common market without member fees and free movement of labour isn't a pipe dream
>>61450032
>It'll see revisions to placate the UK of course.
The EU was already bending bacwards to placate the UK. At this point the only placating that will happen is going to be done by the UK.
The EU has most of the cards.
>>61450099
Not really, Norway and Switzerland are already questioning the free movement.
I forsee rewritings of it simply to placate these areas.
member fees is obvious. Nobody was against member fees, we were against paying loads for little reason when we also pay tons privately.
>>61450206
>paying loads
>with the rebate
>>61450206
Both Norway and Switzerland are outside
They can question all they want
>>61450297
Exactly why I said Britain's stance will probably help them all in the long run.
>>61450289
Even with the rebate we still paid alot of money into the EU for very little gain.
I mean the Agriculture stuff was alright, but the scientific grants we already covered ourselves and we give fucking tons to the Scientific community outside of the EU.
>>61448452
Are you the famous polish vermin?
>>61450434
>Sonic
The card is right.
>>61450434
there's something lower than messing with kids?, and I thought that brits were well educated and civilized...
>>61450206
We are? I guess we would if Turkey or Albania joined, but right now people are enjoying the cheap labour and that's not really going to change unless we become a nation of illogical, uneducated dumb fucks who hate cheap labour
>>61450609
Messing with kids is part of english culture
>>61449768
Politicians aren't the people.
Keep going. What could possibly go wrong?
>implying this won't be the end result of #brexit
https://youtu.be/3oXpc-59Cdo?t=5m14s
