Let's talk about one of my favorite languages, my native tongue, English. Do you say any words a certain way or have a certain slang which is specific to your region?
I've noticed one division is turning -ar to ah, and a to -ar. Brits do this. New Englanders. Aussies.
>>61424473
>"Oh, yeah, I saw it last night!"
>Oh yee, A sorit last noit!"
hello
>>61424914
Australian: "nohyt"
Obviously I have a Dutch accent.
And Dutch people like to literally translate figurative speech. Because it's not always clear which sayings and metafores exist in English.
>>61424473
it always fucks me with how inconsistent we are with some a's
for example we will say dahnce and arse
but we'll say fr-ance (unless you're from south australia)
and sometime we just throw them up in the air and choose like with graph (which can be gr-arph or gr-aff)
fucking annoys me
>>61426351
wait no we wont say dahnce
haha i even get it wrong when typing it! what am i like!
I'm of Irish descent so I try my best to speak with an Irish accent irl in order to honor my ancestors
>Chicago
Ending sentences with a preposition. "Are you coming with?"... the with is wholly unnecessary. With who? With what? Us? Them? Him? WHATS WITH THE WITH? Dont hear this much anywhere else in the USA, or even the world. I dont hear the French saying "est-ce qu'il vient AVEC"
Whatever.
English is boring and ugly
>>61426611
I worked with a woman who started almost every sentence "Is the thing about that is, ___"
I don't know where she picked that habit up but I wanted to drown her in a lagoon for it before it spreads to any more humans.
>>61426473
Fuck right off.
>>61426858
Get out of my forefathers country.
>>61426630
English has a huge variety of intelligible dialects, ways to express itself and is the lingua franca of the world.
>>61428218
True enough.
>>61428180
Doesn't change anything. Its boring, primitive and sounds bad except for English accent
>>61426473
> i speak with an irish accent to honor my ancestors
kek
>>61426473
Voocaroo
>>61428686
>Is useful
>Language from two of the most powerful cultural forces on the planet
"It's bad cause reasons and primitive"
Pretty sure this is b8
>>61424473
Hiberno-English tbqh
>>61428965
Thanks bae
>>61428934
Its useful. Doesnt change anything about what i said
>>61424473
The West Midlands has this weird thing where we pronounce "ight" as "oyt". E.g. fight->foyt, alright->alroyt.
>>61429061
What flag is that anyway
>>61429169
Which part of the West Midlands? I Think you're chatting bollocks mate.
>>61429061
>>61428686
>>61426630
Are you that same Slovak from the 'EU dropping English as an official language' thread?
Linguistics and accent stuff is pretty fuckin neato for me.
I myself suffer from the Canadian raising https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_raising
Shit like lake when I say it turns into leik and anything with the "au" sound gets rounded out into more of an "ooh". Also anything with uh turns into ah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9rSBmOgpcDE basically this all the time in northern Ontario
>>61426473
epic meme broseph
>>61426351
thats called non-rhoticism. r's are only pronounced if they are followed by a vowel
>There are places without a second person plural
Yall are nuts tbqh familia.
>>61434189
"Y'all" is singular you idiot
"All y'all" is the proper plural pronoun
>>61434189
southern accent is my favorite
I am Greek
I find Scottish accent to be most fascinating
>>61424473
One thing I've learnt in recent weeks is that Americans have pronounce the word "exit" as "egg-zit" and now I cannot stop noticing it.
Seriously, cut that shit out.
>>61434883
>Americans say "how come"
>it's a calque from Dutch "hoekom"
lmao
>>61426302
Why can't Dutch people pronounce /s/"?
>>61426302
the dutch people i've met speak with a nearly perfect english accent. I think because english and dutch are the same language family we pronounce stuff in the same way
>>61435037
you're thinking of Frisians
dutchmen are close but still closer to northern germans than to you
>>61434934
And yankee is from jan kees which was a a sterotypical name for Dutch colonists in New York
>>61434998
We can't? News to me.
>>61434883
http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/exit
I'm only hearing the subtlest of differences.
>>61435176
It's a bit of a stereotype in English that Dutch people can't pronounce /s/. Take for example Goldmember (from Austin Powers) who pronounces every /s/ as an /sh/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnzH15hwt48
>>61435149
maybe, i've only spoken to a couple people from the netherlands so i could be wrong
>>61434833
Thanks but why?
>>61435218
Strange, that's not how I've been hearing it pronounced lately. Compare the UK voices to the USA ones here: http://forvo.com/word/exit/#en
>>61435312
what I dislike the most about English is the non-rhoticity so Scottish comes as a pleasant surprise
plus vowels are more sensible to a Pole
>>61435444
>not extending vowels
Literally the most unwhite thing you can do
>>61428180
>is the lingua franca of those who speak it
Fixed. Accept the fact more than 6 billion people don't speak your lingua franca.
>inb4 ebin ad hominem
>inb5 "english is spoken by all the ppl worth talking to"
>>61428686
English is actually a relatively recent development from a fusion of middle saxon and high norse. A low IQ trolltongue like you of course confuses elegance with simplicity
>>61438281
A lingua franca just means its used in trade and diplomacy. Not everyone is a stock market man or diplomat
>>61424473
The UK has many different accents
>>61438788
>>61434272
pronoun: y'all
(in the southern US) you (used to refer to more than one person)
"how are you-all?"
>>61438890
>>61438890
>what the fuck is "tig"
>scroll down to London
>oh, they mean "he/it"
Fucking northerners with their retarded words
>>61439385
I've always said "it" but I live in Bucks
Bloody London influence
>>61426630
So is your flag and your mother.
I have a northern Irish accent
Accents in the north do vary alot- alot of northern Irish accents have a twang that sounds nearly American
Alot of accents here are also indistinguishable to Scottish
irish, how is this pronounced?
"tiocfaidh ár lá"
>>61438281
>>inb5 "english is spoken by all the ppl worth talking to"
You're just mad because it is true.
>>61438507
>English
>Elegant
>>61438788
they don't eat bread in the Highlands?
Norwich in English is nor-idge
Norwich in Norwich is n'aarrch
>>61439999
Chucky ar lah
>>61438678
>lingua franca literally means "french language"
you might want to learn some other languages as well. Would help you to really appreciate yours.
>>61438281
if the english were tyrants, francophone colonialists were inhuman devils. Your methods of torture and enslavement, to THIS DAY in the New World and in Africa ,all from your sense of entitlement, will forever remain as some of the darkest pages in human history.
>>61438890
That maps incorrect. Where I live it's tag but on the map it says tig. I've never heard the word tig in my life before.
>>61441498
tig you're it
>>61439025
In Scotland, the native gaelic word is "heroin"
>>61439025
Derby here, I here all three terms used interchangeably.
Kind of stupid how those maps infer only one word is used in any one area.
>>61441234
then why the fucking "f" mate? why the fucking f?
>>61441362
WRONG ! LIES !
>>61426611
In German we say the same "Kommst du mit?"
>>61439999
see this song for a guide to the irish ""language"":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htV8pffqhbE
>>61424473
i got a strong new england thing going when i speak. but my slang is mostly that of a new yorker. i kind of half grew up in vermont and mass but now i live in new york state. never really noticed the difference but that is because i am used to speaking with lots of people from around the world.
one big one i get made fun of is the word "hotdog". i say it more like "hutdog". when i say the word "hot" i say it normally but for whatever reason hutdog is hardwired into my brain.
one really strange thing i've noticed about new york state is that in a lot of rural places in western new york and the southern tier, people have this weird kind of half-southern twang to their speech. really strange considering we are almost as north as it gets.
>>61441895
thanks
>>61441843
This is probably where our "coming with" comes from, via yiddish immigrants.
>>61439960
Guess who settled here
>>61438788
A teacake isn't a barm though, it has raisins for starters.
>>61439385
You're a fucking idiot son.
>>61441362
I've learned French, the fact that he is going "OH BUDDY SOME LINGUA FRANCA" despite it not necessarily meaning everyone speaks it is dumb especially considering I bet less people spoken French back when it was lingua franca than people speak English now
>>61442004
They have that twang because they are hicks with the Appalachian dialect influence
>>61441641
To show some respect, of course.
>>61442906
>less
"fewer".
>>61442998
No that's just a normal country accent
>>61443114
>pointsfingertonotefallacybutinthenextsquarerealisesthereisapointtothatargumentcomic.jpg
>english speakers talking about "accents"
>saying pop or soda constitutes an "accent"
>>61444735
Shouldn't you be posting a picture of a vampire and saying goodnight?
>>61444836
That's some other guy.
>>61444735
TBQH you must be on the autism spectrum if you can't recognize accent differences in English. Probably way more variations in dialect than Slovekian.
>>61444931
I'll give you ten American dollars if you find that guy and break his posting finger.
>>61444931
You really expect me to believe that more than one person can afford a computer and internet access in Slovenia?
californian "accent"
best "accent"
>>61445065
Slovenia is pretty wealthy
>>61445044
That's the Slovene equivalent of a numbers station.
>>61444964
>accent differences
>pop vs. soda
ayy
>>61445126
I, for one, am glad that the people who love to live in California, do.
>>61445127
I kid, Slovenes are okay. Really though, find that goodnight guy and break his arms. We'll get a collection up.
>>61445065
We can afford it since we don't have to spend money on free schooling and health care :^)
>>61445148
>numbers station
>(You)
I don't have an accent if I do it's practically non existent
>>61445468
>There are Americans who say this with a straight face
>>61445418
You're safe as long as he keeps posting.
>>61445468
>>61445638
i admit to an accent
whats your accident
>>61444735
THIS
it's a dialect you stupid fucks
>>61445687
Manc.
>>61435149
Dutch actually sounds a lot like a mix between English and German: "Ik eet de appel"
>>61445687
Great lakes I guess if that's not a thing then Midwestern
>>61434883
Yup, that's how I pronounce it. Not changing
>>61435275
Can't, or don't? Plenty of Germans say willage just because they can't keep straight, whether w or v is pronounced that way
>>61442004
Western PA gets a bit of a twang to it as well, depending how rural you get.
I don't notice many crazy weird accent qualities, at least compared to New England or southern accents. One thing I realized at college was that apparently it's weird to use the word "anyway" as a term for agreement, as in:
>Person 1: "I just don't understand why English is so retarded sometimes"
>Person 2: "Yeah, anyway!"
Plenty of my friends from south central PA did this so I just accepted it as normal my whole life.
My one friend turns any "oo" sound into an "uh" as well (e.g. broom to brum, room to rum, etc.)
I wish I picked up PA dutch accentuations from my grandfather, but I never really do too well at picking up accents I'm exposed to.
>>61446258
"Oh? Well, we're off to go fishing up near CITY next Tuesday."
(Generic control group American-English)
"Oh ya well den weer ofta go fishin up near Bemidji next toosday."
(Minnesota)
"Oh jeez well den wher off ta go fishing up neer Eau Claire nixt toosdee."
(Wisconsin)
"Eh, well, wur awfta go fishin' up nur Lacon necks Tuuzdae."
(Chicago)
"Ragrgle barhlede yahbabababa hpadji-deek deen Tuesday."
(Iowa)
>>61444735
This. If I drive an hour here, I have trouble understanding people
>>61443772
Where did you learn to speak Turkish?
>>61446736
It's similar here. Everyone kinda gravitates towards the general standard when they write though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xan2xU-ZFic
>>61446595
>One thing I realized at college was that apparently it's weird to use the word "anyway" as a term for agreement, as in:
It's not for agreement; it's for changing the subject.
>>61447095
Yeah, that's what screwed my friend from Philly up when he first heard me and a buddy say it. Idk how it came to be but most of my friends/people from my hometown at least used it as an exclamation of agreement.
>>61426445
People pronounce those words both ways. I myself say most of those words both ways
>>61434189
Yeah this is a fact which annoys me greatly.
>>61446598
Where's Michigan at tho
>>61445468
>Actually believing you don't have an accent
This is absolute ethnocentrism. Please don't be this fucking retarded
>>61446939
turkish: amerikalılaştıramadıklarımızdan mısınız?
english: are you one of those people whom we unsuccessfully tried to make the citizens of the US?
>>61434272
"all yall" is used to refer to every single member of a group, usually emphatically
>>61424473
>-ar to ah
Yup this is how it is throughout England. None of us pronounce "car" as "carrrrr" like you do. We say more like "cahhh", whether you're from the South or the North
>a to -ar
This differs between North and South. In the South we do indeed have an "ar" sound for the letter a, e.g. bath is pronounced "barrth", grass is pronounced "grarrss"
In the North though, they say "bahth" and "grahss"
>>61449891
>bath is pronounced "barrth", grass is pronounced "grarrss"
This is called "intrusive r" and is a feature of the appalachian dialect here actually. Kinda funny how two accents of such completely different prestige share a such a distinguishing feature. It only happens in certain words like wash, though.
>>61426473
Oh boy...
>>61449847
This is really the only regional term I've picked up and use unironically. I've lived my entire life well enough above the Mason-Dixon, but "y'all" is just so easy to say.
"All y'all" only really happens when I'm drunk.
>>61435444
>vowels are more sensible to a Pole
TOP KEK
BATKAKLVRSWRZCHGZWA
>>61438788
delete this
>>61450204
it's the best word desu, can't believe we southerners of all people had to invent a second person plural. step it up yankees and brits.
>>61441895
what an excellent video
Reminder if you don't live in the East Midlands or the South you sound like shit.
>>61450757
better than being the colour of shit ahmed
>>61450837
Pooloos can not afforded to live in rich areas sorry John.
>>61426473
lmao
>>61424473
A female Irish accent (that aren't stereotypical) is one of the most attractive accents I can think of.
>>61432890
I went to sault ste marie, ON a few weeks ago. It was strange, in the US our accents kind of shade into each other as you travel from region to region, but as soon as i crossed the border i could hear the difference in accents, even though michigan was still in sight across the river.
>>61451248
>most attractive accent
>female irish
that's a funny way to spell "southern US of either sex."
>>61451404
Opinions
>>61451404
Honestly you can't really blanket southern accents like that. In my mind there's a huge difference between a "twang" and a "drawl". A southern twang imo only sounds good from females (and even then it can still be too thick), whereas a drawl can sound good from both sexes.
>>61448373
Gow ask your maaaaaahhhhhm
>>61450454
"you" used to be plural, "thou" was singular. now "you" is the new "thou" and "y'all" is the new "you"
>>61426473
I hate plastic paddys
>>61424914
Ah yeah, ah sahit lahs niat
>>61438996
t. Bama
I love our accent.
>>61439960
>Accents in the north do vary alot- alot of northern Irish accents have a twang that sounds nearly American
Thats because the american accent is pretty much derived from the northern irish one
>>61446736
So just like england?
>>61424473
yes
frappe vs milkshake
bubbler vs wate fountain
scawllop vs scaellop
wicked vs good
mad vs a lot of
tits as an acronym
carriage vs stroller
statie vs state trooper
masshole
>>61451896
No, you was informal and thou was formal
>>61447157
Huh, weird.
>>61445468
Yes you do. Everyone has an accent, you just have one that's common to your area.
>>61426473
Wew
>>61452729
are you retarded or trolling?
>>61426473
American accents sound fake to me. On TV it sounds normal, but in real life they sound like they're trying to sound cool.
>>61452913
People in movies and television learn how to speak a neutral accent when they take acting classes.
>>61424473
NYC English: standing "on line" rather than "in line"
Your meal at a restaurant is "to stay or to go", not "for here"
Every once in a while my mother will end her sentences with a British-like tone and my grandmother says "warsh" instead of "wash".
They have no recent British ancestry and otherwise have typical American accents.
What the fuck?
>>61424914
This. Britain BTFO
>>61426630
We have an absolutely huge vocabulary, which lends itself brilliantly to poetry, literature and music.
It also doesn't sound like ass like Spanish and Chinese.
I am proud of our little Germanic tree variant, even if we did get raped by the French language a bit half way through.
>>61451896
>>61452729
>>61452901
i can't believe you guys are arguing about this very common knowledge
þu, þe, þin (thu, thee, thine)
2nd person singular
ge, eow, eower (ye, you, your)
2nd person plural aka "formal address"
source. search "old english magic sheet" and look at the personal pronouns
>>61452913
I'm curious why sounding bland would be perceived as trying to be cool. Wouldn't they try to talk with a more distinct accent instead? Genuinely fascinated.
>>61452913
We are just that cool.
>>61453096
She watches too much BBC
>>61453136
American is a distinct accent.
Australian, for example, is a very natural accent. It's a 'lazy' accent, where the words just come out. American, however, twists every word very specifically. Your weird 'R' for example.
>>61445638
A lot of German speakers believe there is an accent free German.
>>61446736
>implying that is a good thing
>>61453200
A natural accent is relative to the speaker.
>>61445468
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American
>>61453200
I always thought American accents were autistic and uncreative. Interesting.
>>61439385
That is the most retarded thing I've ever read.
>>61453096
I am from East Texas and we all say "warsh" instead of "wash"
>>61446736
>Implying it's not worse in england
I work 14 miles away from where I was born and raised and don't understand a fucking word they say half of the time.
>>61453349
General American is kinda outdated now considering the northern cities vowel shift. all speakers have regional/ethnic influences in their language anyway.
>>61453343
By natural I mean that Australian doesn't put much into the words, it just lets them out as they form in the mouth.
American puts all these twists on them, and emphasises weird parts.
>>61453553
I've always thought that southern american english sounded pretty chill desu. Brit/yankee talk always seems more stifled.
>>61453465
General American =/= Midwest and Midlands accents. They're very similar and GA has its origins there but like you said they've developed their own peculiarities. Standard accents and dialects are usually idealized fictions that no one actually speaks.
>>61444735
>>61446736
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vb4MknMqwmA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03iwAY4KlIU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dABo_DCIdpM
learn yourselves some things
>>61426473
>>61455045
I live in Western PA and the older people here have moderate appalachian accents. I honestly don't think it's that differentiated, at least not as much as the dialects of most languages. Most accents in the US are mutually intelligible.
Do any non-native english speakers here have any difficulty understanding unusual accents like appalachian or ebonics? How different does they sound to you?
I have what is seemingly a General American accent with a Texas overtone. It becomes noisy apparent in my diction, anytime I say "reckon" "y'all" "gander" or "howdy" it's pretty obvious, but I wish I had more of a drawl. It would give me more character when traveling abroad. I was once asked if I was Canadian or American by an Australian I was chatting with at the top of the Sir Walter Scott monument in Edinburgh.
Is it too late to garner an accent? My mother lost her twang from when she grew up in Georgia so it must be possible.
>>61456229
*becomes most apparent
>>61426473
Muh
Heritage
tfw in the tiny civilized area in a sea of red and orange.
>>61450054
>>61449891
Holy shit no, this is hilarious. Op is talking about intrusive-r but not like either of you mentioned.
He mean things like "the idea is" becoming the "the idear is" and that some times happening at the end of a sentence. I remember joke likes
>what do you call a blind dinosaur
>Idontthinkhesaurus
>what do you call a blind deer
>no eyed deer
>and a legless blind deer
>still no eyed deer
The warsh and stuff is unrelated to that kind of r adding or the Bahhth thing in England.
Now the Barth thing for Bath is just funny. There is no r sound in the way southern English people say bath, it's the same sound as the first syllable of father. To Americans that would mostly be written as ~ahh.
>>61435441
http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/us/definition/english/exit
Here's a British dictionary that has recordings in English accents for both pronunciations. I don't think this is one of those American vs Britain things as it is Brits vs other Brits and one side points at the US as an accusation to "win".
>>61442653
>>61452473
More so East Anglians, West Country, and the Midlands. Northern Irish wasn't all that influential.
>>61434883
it's regional. i say ecks-it, as does everyone in my family.
>accents
that example is more like.. dialect
>>61426611
Autism.
>With who? With what? Us? Them? Him? WHATS WITH THE WITH?
Welcome to context.
Portugal's Portuguese sounds to us like the bread is almost ready to leave the oven.
Th, L,R
I have light Swedish accent in English. What's the best in your opinion?
why it says "connection error" when I'm trying to reply by quick form?
Guess I'm only the one person in my 10k shithole who can into English. My favourite language is Russian and I have basic "seluyk" accent, it sounds like Ukrainian but it doesn't. In English I don't care about it because I've never seen english speaking people here.
>>61438890
It was always it for me, never tag
>>61426351
>fucking annoys me
AND ME
>Hello, 'was a nice dA -y ?
>>61434045
not to 'well actually' but you're mistaken about what the post is trying to convey
trap-bath split: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_English_%E2%9F%A8a%E2%9F%A9#Trap.E2.80.93bath_split
>>61426351
this is curious to me personally bc just across the ditch we say all those words the same ('frahnce', 'dahnce', 'grahph')
'ass' with NA 'a' sees far more use than UK 'arse', though (they are separate words as far as I've always considered it)
RE: 'eggsit': fun fact, that is because 'g' is the 'voiced' version of consonant 'k'
(see table. 2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_(phonetics)#English_examples)
which is the sound 'x' turns into at the end of a syllable
I don't know what causes the emphasised 'g' in US pronunciation; it feels related to a generally more dramatic cadence ala
>>61453553
but as we can see from this thread, that is a relative sentiment
not that it /needs/ to have a reason to have developed - often these things just mysteriously mutate & propogate on their own - but theorising over nothing is fun
Everyone except Americans:
>put the butter in the water bottle
Americans:
>pud the budder in the wader boddle
singaporeans typically speak with either:
-stereotypical chinese/malay/indian accent
-poor english, otherwise known as singlish
usually together
i personally speak with a "vague non-asian, white accent" so i get asked whether im a local all the time
>>61435037
>>61435302
Most dutch people who are under 30 or so speak near fluent english with no discernable accent from what I've encountered through having a dutch GF and visiting the NL.
It is really fucking annoying when they apologise for their accent every time you meet them though.
>>61424473
>slept herbs
>yanks pronounce it "-erbs"
>>61464453
This is my biggest pet peeve.
![Sara-Sampaio-Out-For-Lunch-In-Beverly-Hills-5-1[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CPO6yHr.jpg "Sara-Sampaio-Out-For-Lunch-In-Beverly-Hills-5-1[1].jpg")
>>61424473
I have the good tier Californian accent, so thanks to our tv/movies it is the most familiar to people; actors have to learn it in order to land work. It amazes me to meet people from the Anglo Sphere who sound like SOCAL natives and the way they can turn it on and off.
>>61464453
>>61464530
Wait, what? I thought it was Brits that dropped the h. Everyone I know pronounces it as herb
>>61464654
Perhaps it varies from region to region in the US?
All of my american friends (from california, utah, virginia, florida and oregon) pronounce it as 'erb, and I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that here.
>>61464654
yea thats a weird one, we defo dont say it that way but every time it comes up some yanks say "wait i thought that was you"
it's probably regional
Euro English is the best, we use English, but use our own language as a base and use the same slangs and idioms, then expect others to understand what the fuck we are about.
