How do we make them less butthurt?
Let Russia annex them all and fix them like they were 30 years ago
![7346117[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ONjRR7o.jpg "7346117[1].jpg")
>>61374105
how is that a belt wtf
>>61374159
>>61374229
I rest my case
>>61374105
with nukes and walls, thanks poland czech and romania for flooding UK and now they are out of EU
>How do we make them less butthurt?
Removing the source of the problem is the best option.
Remove Russia. The same measure is neede for China too.
>>61374275
>The same measure is neede for China too
What would that fix? China is a stabilising factor in Asia, far more than South Korea ever would be. Fucking dumb prick
>>61374324
>stabilising factor
In what way? Just look at their territorial claims and constant chimping out over the SCS, China is the biggest detriment to regional stability in Asia
>>61374324
>China is a stabilising factor in Asia
Nice meme Chang.
Don't forget who has been playing the lifeline of North Korea.
>>61374105
I'm not butthurt, YOU TAKE IT BACK RIGHT NOW!!!
>>61374274
>Czechs
>flooding anything
>>61374274
There is as much Spaniards as Romanians in the UK and more than twice as much Spaniards than Czechs.
>>61374257
It's just a blanket term for connected areas known for something
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible_Belt
most famous example
>>61374105
Why would I be butthurt when I can get wasted or blaze up and explore the woods?
Also,
KHAN'D
>>61374105
Slovenes are in no way butthurt towards Russia. We have friendly relations since ever.
>>61374467
>There is as much Spaniards as Romanians in the UK and more than twice as much Spaniards than Czechs.
that difference is that you are poorer and they dont return to your country like poles or romanians.
keep calm gypsi
here in barcelona there are a bunch of eastern europeans.
>>61374736
>here in barcelona there are a bunch of eastern europeans.
wtf I hate Spain now
>>61374105
Why are we always included in the butthurt belt?
Stop, t b h.
>>61374586
was slovxit also manufactured by putin?
>>61374105
What are we butthurt about? Migants? EU?
>>61374771
Slovenia is ok...
>>61374736
>Spaniard calling anybody a gypsy
>>61374736
I've been to UK with school few years ago and Spaniards were working kitchen and tables and other nigger jobs just like Poles. Your 80% unemployment is pretty visible there.
Also calling someone a gypsy when you look like a gypsy yourself is pretty brave senpai
There is like 6 000 Czechs in the whole Spain, if it continues like that we will lose our whole population to you ;_;
Sad how this stupid meme map gets posted over and over again. Not all of those are butthurt, and it's missing some butthurt countries.
Not butthurt, shouldn't be in: Finland
Butthurt, should be in: Greece
>>61374961
spain is for spaniards and spanish speaking people (i am colombian)
here there are a bunch of romanians and eastern europeans who work for minimun salary and they dont return to romania and other eastern shitholes.
shut up
>>61375086
>i am colombian
dirty immigrant, go home
>>61375058
slav immigrant
>>61374105
>yugos
>butthurt about ussr
tito btfo stalin
>>61375086
>colombian
>calls other people gypsies
>>61375086
>congolombians
>>61375058
kek this is the original
but pic in op is actually made by me but I modified it because I wanted to include slovenia, little bitch of a fucking butthurt slav nation
>>61375058
> Butthurt, should be in: Greece
wrong
>>61375113
i was born in spain although my parents are from colombia
it is my home and colombia my second home
Remove russians
>>61374961
>Czech scum
>Not a subhuman
Your opinion is as shit as your country
kys senpai
>>61374252
>Circle tool
>ignoring Holodomor, Katin and other Stalinist atrocities
How's life in Transnistra ?
>>61375162
slovenians are really butthurt
>>61375162
I think the only country that should be red on that map is Shitaly.
>>61375176
>>61375191
>colombian
>>61375191
>>61375171
Wut? Greece is almost as butthurt as Poland.
>>61375641
You are Greek
You are Greek
You are Greek
You are Greek
You are Greek
You are Greek
хeхeхe
Entire Europe is butthurt belt, except for maybe, MAYBE Switzerland.
>>61375086
>spain is for spaniards
yes
>and spanish speaking people.
lol no, go home, dirty sudaca
>>61375822
I never realised how big the UK is desu
Why do the countries of the butthurt belt want hostile relations with Russia?
Wouldn't they benefit the most from peace and trade with Russia?
>>61374736
>gypsi
HOL UP
>>61375086
>I am Colombian
So shut your mouth non european scum. If there will be any deportations immigrants from other continents will be first
Also
>calling people gypsies while being from Colombia
Latin americans are on same level as gypsies
send euros
>>61375909
Many Slavs mixed with Gypsies and look different to whites.
>>61375909
Since green eyes are super rare its safe to assume that blue eyes are most common in 60%+ countries?
>>61375905
We do benefit from the trade, but it doesn't change a fact that those mongols ruined our country.
>>61376101
That doesn't change the fact that Spaniards are literally niggers.
>>61375873
Not for long lmao
>>61376158
so did we, and yet we are friends now
>>61376202
You got massive financial help from America its some absurd number, we got communism that set us decades behind western euros.
That said, Slovakia and Hungary are pro russia, only poland hates them. Czech republic is neutral but leaning towards west
>>61376181
whites love them
>>61376290
My point was that Nazi germany invaded Czech republic and other slavic nations, and yet we are all friends today in EU
So i can't really see a reason why the animosity between eastern europe and russia must continue
>>61376299
>white women are whores
More news at 11
>>61376356
The thing is, there wasn't actual war in czech republic, they surrendered instantly. Also, it was 70 years ago, communism was present here 30 years ago.
>>61376363
Yes and there are more in Slavic countries kek.
>>61376437
I am not only talking about czech republic, but eastern europe in general.
And sure, the memories of communism are more current, but I think we could reduce the timeframe of animosity if we would activly work to improve the relations with Russia.
Plus, it would also benefit eastern europe economically
>>61376448
more of what, niggers?
>>61376528
whores
>>61375086
Czechia is better than Spain in every imaginable way, and you're not even Spanish you filthy colombian nigger.
>>61376630
I won't argue.
>>61375234
was hoping for more (you)s desu
>>61375234
>Holodomor
Natural famine
>Katyn
Nazis did it
>>61376649
>czech
with 800 € wage ,
fucking kek , here it is third world
>>61376684
>Nazis did it
Russians did it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_Operation_of_the_NKVD_(1937%E2%80%9338)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_of_the_Sixteen
Russian concentration camps were worse than German ones.
>>61376507
Because unlike Germany Russia has never given up its imperial ambitions
Merkel didn't say that fall of the Third Reich was the biggest catastrophe of the 20th century
>>61376716
i have been visit czech and is really poor, only prague is decent
>>61376716
You also have three times higher prices than they do, which makes them factually richer since they can afford more with what they earn.
>>61376796
visited*
>>61376796
Czechia also has the lowest unemployment in the EU
>>61376741
>Russian concentration camps were worse than German ones.
Ok pole, I think you've drank too much vodka at this point.
>>61376772
hehe thats right silly goy.
We are peaceful nation now and have no imperial ambitions
>>61376716
That's better than the Spaniards earning literally nothing thanks to no jobs.
>>61376716
You can live comfy life with 800€ wage since everything is cheap as fuck. And you dont have to deal with muslim and colombian immigrants
>>61376772
>le evil russia
>le imperial ambition
we barelly exist at this point and still they make you believe that we are going to eat half of the europe tomorrow
Slovakia, Hungary, Finland and probably Czechia should not be here.
>>61376878
Gulgas were worse than German camps.
And you know why? Because people there had even shittier condition than in German ones. Also, when you expelled Germans and occupied Poland in 1945 you reopened german ones and made then even shittier.
>>61376356
>My point was that Nazi germany invaded Czech republic and other slavic nations, and yet we are all friends today in EU
In case of Poland there are some factors that work in favor of the Germans here.
1) The Third Reich did sign the Geneva Convention prior to the war, USSR did not. Have a guess what that entailed in terms of dealing with POWs.
2) Despite the above both Germans and Russians commited war crimes. The Germans spent last 60 years going "We're sorry.", Russians spent the last 60 years going "USSR did nuffin'! We saved you, now be grateful you scum!"
3) Poland spent ~50 years as a puppet state of the USSR, with all the "benefits" it brought.
>>61377251
I understand why Poland has bad emotions against Russia, but from a rational point of view, it seems to me like Poland could only benefit from having good relations with Russia, both economically and in security aspect
>>61377223
>shittier condition than in German
>you reopened german ones
I think you are having halucinations from anal pain at this point. Do you have anything to confirm this?
>>61376796
I chose a shitty city, so I don't compare the only good place (Prague). Enjoy being 13% more rich than a shit city in a 3rd world country
>>61377324
We're pretty much all butthurt about Russia still.
>>61377479
Brno is actually fairly nice, use Ustí next time.
>>61377135
No, I don't think you're in a same way I don't think America is evil.
You just have different outlook on the world and different interests that are detrimental to ours.
>>61377479
>>61377522
no point comparing the worst shithole with Barcelona. Two second biggest cities are a good comparison
>>61377563
>safety index
>moderate
>>61377442
Historians and historical sources?
Lol...just lol
>>61377691
Sure, come on.
>>61375086
>Be Colombian
>Calling Eastern European countries shitholes
kek
>>61377796
i was born here
>>61377734
They're Polish.
West doesn't give a shit about this. Their pro-russian propaganda doesn't allow it.
>>61377825
A dog born in a stable is not a horse.
>>61377869
Of course they are, thanks for confirming your bullshit.
by killing yourself stupid faggot
>>61376649
>>61376046
Latinos can get citizenship in Spain very quickly, so technically we are not migrants :^)
Also Latam is roughly in the level of the balkans.
>>61377135
Ivan, your own turists, that are our guests here, are boasting that they regret soviet army having to leave, and are hoping that one day WE will come back to them. Not to mention that Russian propaganda is actually claiming, that the invasion of 1968, was brotherly help to suppress neo-nazi counter-revolution, while in fact it was just clash between reformists that just wanted to improve our living conditions, and die-hard Stalinists that wanted to remain in charge of everything and anything.
>>61377223
why not use polish camps against nazis and pro-nazi poles?
>>61377965
>Also Latam is roughly in the level of the balkans.
Is that supposed to be a positive?
>>61377324
Does Russia desire good relations with us?
>>61377965
>Latinos can get citizenship in Spain very quickly, so technically we are not migrants
This is some retard level logic.
>>61377965
Balkans are fucking sad
>>61377223
I have to disagree
I would say Gulags were as bad as Nazi work camps
Death camps were way worse than both
>>61378012
Dude, turists may talk a lot kind of shit. What happened during USSR have nothing to do with what Russia is doing now. You must be delusional if you believe Russia today have any capability to treaten Czechia in any way.
But I mean if you ever want to come back to us, you are welcome. ;3
>>61378025
>>61378130
It is, we used to be much poorer, at least the place is livable now. Being middle class and above in a decent latam country is very comfy.
>>61378111
We are not merely migrants at the eyes of the state at least, and that's what really matters.
>>61376772
> fall of the Third Reich was the biggest catastrophe of the 20th century
it was. (for germans)
They just can't say it but we all know it was catastrophe
Germany was divided into 4 zones and filled with foreign troops, lost huge lands, later 3 zones united and the Federal Republic of Germany was born. After 45 years these 3 occupation zones annexed 4th zone and that's what we call modern germany. Germany was free only in their economic sphere.
>>61375086
>eastern shitholes
>coming from a literal beaner from a country only known for Pablo Escobar, corruption, poverty and unreal level of drug violence
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
Even the completely crap tier eastern countries like Romania and Albania are better off than Colombia.
>>61378012
> your own turists, that are our guests here, are boasting that they regret soviet army having to leave, and are hoping that one day WE will come back to them
I don't understand it.
Are they pro-soviet or what?
>>61378012
>and are hoping that one day WE will come back to them.
Once they:
1.) fix their tuberculosis problem
2.) fix their AIDS problem
3.) fix their drug problems
4.) fix their appaling corruption
5.) fix their democracy deficit
6.) fix their bureaucracy
7.) fix their economy
8.) fix the relations with their neighbours
I see no reason not to leave EU and join Warsaw Pact 2
>>61378440
>Once they fix their "being Russia" problem
There, much shorter
>>61378353
>>coming from a literal beaner from a country only known for Pablo Escobar,
if you know anything about colombia shut up fucking chicano...
>>61378353
We have some really good regions, and some really shit regions. The HDI is an average m8. Which I wouldn't trust too much anyway, since for example, the HDI of Venezuela is higher than Colombia, but Venezuela as a whole is not a better place to live.
>>61378547
Why did your parents leave it then, if it's so good?
>>61378331
>>61378331
>We are not merely migrants at the eyes of the state at least, and that's what really matters.
we arent cosidered inmigrants and spanish society hate so much eastern europeans.....and me too
>>61378648
> spanish society hate so much eastern europeans
not surprising, muslims in general dislike white people
>>61378635
now is still better , netflix movies doesn't work in real life
>>61378547
Not even a Chicano. You cannot deny that outside of soccer, Colombia is only known for cartels and general violence (communist guerillas, right wing paras, cartels holding the government by the balls until the US got involved). Colombia currently has a murder rate of 27.9, which is not only worse than Eastern Europe, it's worse than fucking Africa.
>Fins
why tho ?
>>61378252
The point is that "Russia dindu nuffin" is the official stand of the general public, and anybody who disagree, is pretty much a traitor and agent of the west.
>>61378835
>stance of general public
nigga u high
>>61378440
I think if would be able to fix the point 4, everything else would be fixed much easy.
>>61377796
you conquered my land ,so shut up lazy ,
>>61378334
But that's exactly the point. Germans don't want nazism back and they apologised for their crimes. That makes an enormous difference to their relations with neighbours.
We know that we don't have to fear Germans and can focus on trade, investment, friendly cooperation etc. Everyone benefits.
Latin America confirmed for biggest shithole on Earth
>>61379059
thanks to USA and CIA. Michael
>>61379103
Literal dindu nuffin behavior.
>Congolombians flood the US market with cocaine
>Congolombian gangbangers ruin southern Florida forever
>CIA and DEA get involved and fuck up Congolombian cartels
>WE ARE SHIT AND VIOLENT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE US
>mfw
>>61378077
I don't really see how russians would benefit from bad relations with eastern europe
We're butthurt?
>>61378756
I know plenty of Finns who go "RUSSIA REEEEEE" at the drop of a hat.
>>61378932
>official
nigga learn to read
Of course if you ask some Russian on the streets, he might ever be sorry over what happened back then, but according to official stance, there is nothing to be sorry about, because it was "brotherly help".
>>61379282
Russia isn't post-nationalist and mercantilist like Germany. They want their sphere of influence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Near_abroad
>>61379059
>United States Virgin Islands (US)
>Puert Rico (US)
>(US)
>(((US)))
LOL
>>61379397
I'm not sure why I thought you were talking about the official stance of general czech public
retardation is strong today
>>61379444
They are territories, thankfully not states (yet). We even had an option to annex Mexico after we beat them in a war conquered Mexico City, but our politicians opted not to since "it would drastically change our racial and cultural makeup". And now we're letting these shitskins to the US by truckloads.
>>61379406
Yeah, but they can't really hope to steal countries from EUs sphere of infulence.
Russia has an economy the size of Italy and has no means to wage economic warfare with EU. That's why its in their best interest to maintain good relations with the EU. And the countries within the EU who oppose Russia the most, are naturally in eastern Europe. So Russia would greatly benefit from improving relations with eastern europe
>How do we make them less butthurt?
Have you found the cure for our sickness?
>>61379604
Yes, that would be in Russia's interest, but you're assuming that Putin acts in the best long-term interest of Russia and not according to his own self-preservation.
Russians suffer because of this conflinct and they tend to stand behind their leader in times of crises and blame outsiders for all their problems.
The weaker Russia gets, the more belligerent and desperate it becomes.
>>61379767
>Yes, that would be in Russia's interest, but you're assuming that Putin acts in the best long-term interest of Russia and not according to his own self-preservation.
Yes, I actually have a high opinion on Putin and I think he is a very rational and pragmatic leader, in contrast to his portrayal in our media which see hims as literally Hitler.
>The weaker Russia gets, the more belligerent and desperate it becomes.
And thats why it is in EUs best interest to not see Russia become even more shit. A failed state with nukes on our border cant possibly benefit us
>>61379509
WEW
Only Semelová and similar loonies are believing that we should be actually grateful for the 1968 and two decades of shitty normalization, that will be forever remembered as depressingly gray, and things barely working, or not at all.
After all, Normalization is like Skoda 1203. When it got announced, there were actually people looking forwards to it, when it arrived it was blatantly obsolete, when it's gone, we are looking back laughing just how shitty is was.
>Also Latam is roughly in the level of the balkans.
Mind the contrast
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2aZDWDuJcs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7n0wWDlljRw
>>61380135
Isn't Costa Rica supposed to be like the richest central American country?
>>61380005
You are overestimating Putin. He's not a statesman, only a good manipulator.
Squandered Russia's chances during a period of high commodity prices and didn't diversify Russian economy. Should've let Medvedev take over when he had a chance.
I agree that Russia can't fail, but appeasement is not the way forward.
>>61380005
>rational and pragmatic
in the sense he knows how to get shit for himself and his cronies, but after his invasion of georgia and ukraine under really flimsy pretenses, I can't say that he's really ethical
>>61380005
Having good relations between Eastern states, esp. Poland, and Russia, would be good for everyone.
But we also learned that having good relations with Russia if you border them in any way entails having a lot of military hardware and a solid military alliance. Russia throws a shitfit every time this is brought up, but there is absolutely no way Poland willingly reduces its involvement in NATO.
Many of our politicians aren't helping, though, using this as a way to stick it to the soviets so that they can get a few more votes in the elections. And don't get me started on the whole Putin killed muh president meme.
>>61380238
And yet his actions made him very popular with Russian population.
But in my opinion, there is no rational reason for a conflict between EU and Russia, and it is only happening because Americans are interested in keeping up the image of evil Russian empire, to justify their NATO precense in Europe
>>61380005
>I actually have a high opinion on Putin and I think he is a very rational and pragmatic leader
ayyyyy
It's even funnier than that slovak thinking of russia as an evil empire
>>61380238
>Medvedev
he was just Putin puppet and he is even more useless than Putin tbqh
>>61379059
> US virgin islands
>56 murders
>that high on the scale
how few people live there and why do they kill each other
>>61374105
butthurt belt is actually list of countries that make Russia butthurt
>>61380405
well one good reason is that germany, through the undp, had to sink billions into chernobyl because russia maintained they have no responsibility for a disaster their administration caused
what I don't get, Germany has been trying to win over eastern europe, how can you maintain being friends when you are trying to get weapon contracts and the like
>>61374105
give latvia/estonia back to the livonian order, recreate the commonwealth to calm down the poles and lithuanians, recreate bohemia to calm down the czechs, give hungary back slovakia and croatia so those butthurt countries don't exist anymore and hungary is happy and finally give slovenia back to austria so that's another butthurt country gone
>>61380405
Demagogues and populists could be popular with the electorate. Doesn't mean they're beneficial to the country.
Putin knows how to sell his snake oil to Russia (and to some people abroad).
I'm not a fan of American foreign policy. I find Putin's vision of reactionary and corrupt illiberal democracy that Russia's pushing through conspiracy theories even less appealing though.
>>61380517
howtostartawar.avi
>>61380352
In my opinion, his invasion of Crimea and support of Ukrainian seperatists was a reaction of USA trying to remove Ukraine from Russian sphere of influence.
So in my eyes, he was on the defensive side in this confluict.
>>61380492
For me, the best case scenario would be when Eastern Europe and Russia sort out their differences and become friends.
This way, they could benefit as transit countries from the Russian-German trade, and would relay way less on american protection
>>61380569
Sure, Russia is not a perfect country, not by any stretch of imagination.
But you have to understand that instability is a very real threat in Russia and it could have been balkanized in the years after the fall of Soviet Union.
That's why Russians want a strong leader who can guarantee stability and keep Russia together, even if it meens antogonizing the west
>>61380602
And that's where I fundamentally disagree
Ukraine and Georgia aren't Russian property and they should be able to determine their own future and allies
I don't think you understand this and that's why further discussion isn't possible
>>61380517
>recreate bohemia to calm down the czechs
You should recreate england to calm down the brits desu lad
>>61380602
>his invasion was a defensive action
>invasion
>defensive
If the Ukraine wants to be outside the sphere of influence of Russia (which it has been acting towards even before the Soviet Union fell), why is it russia's right to stop it?
And don't act like germany was not pushing Ukraine away from Russia, mate. You guys wanted those super-cargo planes and defense contracts so bad, not us
If you're willing to interpret things in such a way that a country cannot choose western support as russia can justifiably invade it to protect its own interests, you might as well just go full lebensraum and say russia should be eastern europe.
>>61380705
Better watch out fit putin shills claiming the ukraine isn't real
>>61380705
In an ideal world, each country would be free to choose its own destiniy.
But it is a sad realitiy that in this world, the strong countries rule and turn weak countries into their vassal states.
And keep in mind, USA would have reacted the same way if Russia have tried to sphere one of US neighbours.
I would like to remind you of the Cuba crisis during the cold war
>>61380827
that was because they were putting nukes in Cuba, and russia decided sending its navy to deliver said nukes was not an act of provocation
>>61380753
> If the Ukraine wants to be outside the sphere of influence of Russia (which it has been acting towards even before the Soviet Union fell), why is it russia's right to stop it?
We can't make russia great again without returning lost lands.
I do not recognize borders drew by commies.
Ukraine and belarus is our texas, there is no america without texas and there is no great russia without ukraine.
You all know that
>>61380602
Honestly his invasion of Crimea was the only thing I respected him for, but after he shat on Novorossia and lead us into an even deeper shit I kinda accepted that he will just continue to fuck everything up as he did all these years.
>>61380705
A lot of Ukrainian lands, and not only theirs, were full of Russians and were just given by commies for no particular reason. They should've never been separated to begin with and for me taking them back in that situation seems like not a worst choise.
>>61380859
So I hope you can understand why Russia is against you putting NATO bases next to their border
>>61380889
you can have belarus if you really want another shithole, but the ukraine has fuck all to do with russia ethnically or historically
Crimea was its own clusterfuck but I still don't support an invasion (that the united states has invaded several countries under flimsy pretenses does not escape me, it was just as stupid)
>>61380953
>NATO
NATO ain't run just by the US, it was germany putting pressure for those in the Ukraine, USA was too busy trying to sell people F-35s to give a fuck
>>61380967
>the ukraine has fuck all to do with russia ethnically or historically
I think you know literally nothing about the history of Ukraine to make this statement.
>>61380914
So you think he shouldn't have supported the separatists movement in Ukraine?
>>61380827
World has changed since the 1930s. Turning back the clock and calling it Realpolitik is disingenious.
Russia isn't going to attack the EU directly, the biggest threat is a hybrid war through propaganda.
They don't have to convince you that Russia is always right and best. Its aim is to create an appearance that truth doesn't exist, everybody is lying to you, and everything and everybody is equally shit.
>>61375526
>>61381039
>disciple of stalin trying to tell me about ukraine
yeah you guys were so close in the 1980s that russia gave 0 aid for chernobyl, kek
>>61378130
Hey dude don't be rude
>>61380998
>NATO ain't run just by the US
yes it is.
NATO is basically America and its vassal states
It would be the same as if you claimed warsaw pact wasnt run by russians
>>61380967
> ukraine has fuck all to do with russia ethnically or historically
what a bullshit
>>61381103
> russia gave 0 aid for chernobyl
> ukrainian edukaishun
0/10 bait
>>61381054
>World has changed since the 1930s. Turning back the clock and calling it Realpolitik is disingenious.
Has it though? When I look at recent USA involvement in the middle east, it seems to me like Realpolitic as usual.
>Its aim is to create an appearance that truth doesn't exist, everybody is lying to you, and everything and everybody is equally shit.
Isn't this the case though?
>>61381054
>western powers tell you only truth and don't lie, and if people tell you otherwise it's a Russian propaganda
Shows how much your westen propaganda has advanced compared to our lazy shit
>>61381111
it was run by moscow, but its not like the PACT or NATO are monolithic, despite attempts by the parent country.
under king obongo, we're cutting back out military so hard and fast we're back to pre-World War 1 levels.
I'd prefer to just let europe to its own devices, our founding fathers told us to stay out of its affairs for a reason.
Best america will go back to isolationism, let the world be on fire
>>61381271
>I'd prefer to just let europe to its own devices, our founding fathers told us to stay out of its affairs for a reason.
>Best america will go back to isolationism, let the world be on fire
I would also prefere that. This way, EU could take more responsibility for its own security and stop beeing American vassal. We have certanly the economic means to build our own army, we dont really have to relay on USA
>>61381331
I'm from Belgium, so please don't invade our country again
>>61381357
The idea is to form an EU superstate.
Why would we invade our own clay?
>>61381111
This is literally not true. Take the Iraq war for example, we shilled HARD for the entire NATO to join us but France and Germany flat out refused to join us, because people like Chirac had trade deals with Saddam in place and it made our neocons assblasted to no end.
That alone should disprove the notion that you are our vassals.
Everyone around Russia hates Russia
only ones who don't hate Russia are ones who don't have direct contact with those mongol apes.
>>61381476
Your land gave birth of the most bloody man (Stalin) to this world
You better shut up ;)
>>61381436
Just because you don't have full control over your vassals doesn't mean NATO only exists to support Americas interest.
>>61381570
You should be more thankful to man who turned a rural banana republic into a superpower(until he demised and you are reverting back to banana republic)
>>61381578
Show some gratitude to country that gave you a second chance.
A just nation would salt your entire nation and castrate the surviving men after what you tried to pull off...twice
but benevolent America gave you another chance so be more grateful, Fritz.
>>61381578
>America says "go fight"
>Yuros say "no, fuck off"
>WE ARE STILL VASSALS
Not to mention that de Gaulle told American troops to fuck off from France and they did. Sounds like the burden of proof is on you in this case.
>>61381641
>Georgia
>talking about banana republic
lel
>>61381641
I am grateful that thanks to America not the whole Europe fell under Stalin.
But still, it doesn't mean that we should act against our own interests 70 years later and ignore Americas crimes against humanity.
As a friend of USA, it is our duty to call out their leaders on their bullshit
>>61381641
> You should be more thankful
No thanks
fuck you and stalin.
Georgia LITERALLY brought us only stalin and criminals. Worst country ever existed. Land of hairy thugs and dictators - Georgia.
>>61381696
De Gaulle was based.
And while we didn't follow you to Iraq, we still had to support you in the idiotic war in Afghanistan, although we had no interest in it
>>61381331
>This way, EU could take more responsibility for its own security
>and take away our guns
Sorry, but Eurobolsheviks like Juncker are too busy making our lives shittier, and full of bureaucracy and regulations.
>>61381700
Of course you're a banana republic, your own emperor started taxing people when he learnt that normal people shave and clean themselves if they did not shave or took a bath in what? 18th century? You're wild savages from steppes, don't delude yourself. only time Russia was relevant in world was when it was ruled by a foreigner.
>>61381717
You dont have your interests, your only existence is thanks to America
I think all German people should pay a tribute for their past crimes against humanity.
>>61381796
Afghanistan was different because of Article 5. If Germany got attacked and invoked Article 5 we'd likewise be obliged to help them.
I think years of /pol/faggotry is making some brains rot, not everything in the world works as a master-slave relationship.
>>61381867
I think it is rather questionable if an act of terrorism by some Saudis could be counted as Afghanistan attacking America
>>61381828
>only time Russia was relevant in world was when it was ruled by a foreigner
But Russia has always been ruled by foreigners.
Rurik = Scandi
Romanovs = Germans
Lenin = Jew
Trotsky = Jew
Stalin = Georgian
Beriya = Georgian
Khrushchev = Ukrainian
Andropov = Jew
Gorbachev = Ukrainian
Putin = Veps Finn
I guess Yeltsin was one of the few actual ethnic Russians and he was a monumental failure on top of being an alcoholic retard.
>>61381917
Considering it was the Taliban government that was sheltering and protecting the leader of the organization that conducted the attacks, I don't find it questionable at all.
>>61381964
>alcoholic retard.
tautology
a Russian already implies that,
>>61381828
That's a big bait for someone from a country that was just a bunch of sheep fucking mountain monkeys before Russia brought them civilization.
>>61382017
the same leader who was hiding in pakistan?
>>61382017
Kinda reminds me of the world war 1 to be honest.
Would you say that Austria and Germany were leading a defensive war, aswell?
>be part of neutral countries for the duration of entire cold war
>still get called part of the butthurt post-gommie block
I guess my country is still so irrelevant that it hardly gets mentioned in any anglo-history books. Not that it really matters
>>61382059
He fled to Pakistan months after we attacked.
>>61382077
Depends on your point of view. But I do think Saudi Arabia got off pretty easy when there's a clear proof of their involvement in various terrorist attacks. Blame the fact that half of the US politicians are on Saudi payroll.
>>61382053
>that was just a bunch of sheep fucking mountain monkeys before Russia brought them civilization.
Expect we already have various different written alphabets and was a regional superpower in times of Bronze age meanwhile Russians still stank of shit in 17-18th century until their Emperor who witnessed in Europe that normal people don't stink of pig shit decided to tax Russians who don't shave or bath
>>61382077
I'd say world war 1 was a case of why binding treaties without context is a bad idea
Germany didn't even start the ball rolling on it but was the only power left when it stopped, so it got saddled with all the blame
Everyone thought they were on the defensive in that war, and that the other side was provoking them.
>>61382133
>in times of Bronze age
Where you stayed lel
>who don't shave or bath
It was a tax on the opposite of that, seems you can't even educate yourself now without Russian help
>>61382217
Let's not act as if Germany was innocent there.
If they haven't given Austria a go, they would have never declared war because of this incident
>>61382284
>Where you stayed lel
On the contrary
While Georgians sweooshed through various age
Russians were still hanging on trees until Mongols educated(and enriched) them
>It was a tax on the opposite of that,
It was tax to and sorry attempt to make Russian man resemble a civilized man, learn your own history.
>>61382369
Well yeah, they lost the last of their innocence after invading Belgium.
I still think they became the scapegoat
>>61382098
based on my experience you need a considerable amount of alcohol to become friendly to us
otherwise your attitude is rather hostile
>>61382392
That beer looks delicious.
>>61382217
Actually it was pretty much Germany who started it, everyone knew a big war is gonna break out sooner or later and Wilhelm just felt German odds were the best at the moment. It was Germany who pushed Austria into sending that retarded ultimatum to Serbia.
>>61382392
You are not even trying now famalam.
>>61382432
smoking and drinking(and whoring around) is national culture of married Russian women.
>>61382416
Nah, I think the blame is well deserved.
Because of the retarded poltics of Willhelm II, Germany has isolated itself diplomatically, and it wanted a war against Russia before it became too powerful
>>61382217
I mean, they were the ones that gave Russia impossible terms to leave, knowing they had a civil war on their hands and couldn't continue fighting.
Germany's terms were terrible and stupid, but it was in part because of the terms Germany gave Russia.
>>61382432
Russian beer is even worse than our macrobrews. And even Russian themselves actually realize this so their companies try to dupe their customers by selling beer under fictional Czech and German labels even though it's produced by Russian companies in Russia.
>>61382217
>Everyone thought they were on the defensive in that war
You could make that case for WW2 if you try REALLY hard. But in WW1 Germany was clearly the aggressor.
>>61382705
Honestly, many foreign labels are legit franchises, but since being manufactured here they are still kinda shitty. Some may actually be ok, but not compared to original.
>>61382877
I don't mean legit foreign licenses, I mean crap like this:
http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/zatecky-gus/109917/
This beer outright doesn't exist in Czechia and Baltika just made it up. Read the "commercial description" in the link for further kek, additionally try posting it in /v4/ so Czechs can have a good laugh too.
>>61382705
Our microbrews are fine. It's the manufactured big stuff like Bud that is a problem.
>>61383058
That's what I said. Generic Baltika shit in Russia is even worse than Bud and Coors.
>>61382985
The green bottle should have been a hint.
>>61382985
Yeah, I've heard about this shit already, but I haven't paid that much attention before since it's all made here anyway. Btw this beer is not that bad compared to other shit Baltika does.
>>61383105
>macro
Definitely misread that.
>>61383273
The reviews are pretty great desu.
>Sad brew. Grainy corny with some rubbery grass, chewing paper. Light sweetish mess with light bitterness. You want to drink even more after this beer - but definitely something else
>it smells bad, has a metal aftertaste, and compels your stomach to protest as it is a coloured chemical liquid.
>Bottle from Russia thanks to my mother in law. Clear yellow with no head. Smells like piss, grass, malt. Flavour has grains, malt and a slight bitterness. Strong taste of metal in the end. This is horrible.
>>61382985
also funny how they named it Žatecký (which is correct gramatically) gus, which is non-existant word. It's supposed to mean goose, but goose in Czech is "husa". G is not used in Czech language at all, only in foreign words.
Another made up Czech beer from Russia is "Praga". Ivans are worse than chinks.
>>61383379
The only beer I drink lately is Kozel which is an actual Czech franchise and despite it being the shitty franchise produced here, it's still the best out of shitty Russian beers in my opinion. Not comparable to the original but still.
>>61383633
No bully pls, if only we could be as good at beer as you are.
After all murrican Bud is a made up Czech beer too.
>>61383833
The thing is we aren't trying to market Bud as "authentic Czech beer", everyone knows it's American.
>>61375909
>turkey higher than greece
>also includes kurds
>>61383891
Well, technically they are not saying it's authentic either, it's just named that way.
>>61384135
They are.
>>61381420
>Eu forms empire
>Empires like to lean on some groups for support
>pick a language, ethnicity, culture
>propagate it as a unifying factor to the exclusion of all others
>40~ cultures lost
It happens in China (efforts to marginalize Cantonese and other languages), it happened in Warsaw Pact where the assumption was that we'd all russify eventually, it'll be tried in your krauty "super"state.
Poles didn't struggle in the worst geopolitical place in Europe for an eon to give way to Germans, Arabs or anyone else the euro bureaucrats pick.
>>61383633
Gamlet :DDDDD
Russians don't use the H just as you don't use the G. It's a real cultural short circuit, this specific little beer naming situation.
>>61384259
Lol, technically it can be read as that it's is made from Zatec hops from Czezhia, which may be true, but also can be read as "from Chechia with Zatec hops".
So while you can't say they are outright lying it's indeed still shady.
>>61374105
>what will make them less butthurt
balkanised russia
>>61384504
Why would there be a loss of culture?
In a federal Europe, each nation would be able to keep its culture and language, similar as how in America or Germany, each state has a high amount of independance and self-gouvernment
>>61384710
Power has it's own logic. Diversity is only a talking point, when you pass critical mass and start to perceive the centrifugal forces as the main threat to your power you answer with consolidation efforts.
This is why replacement immigration is so loved in Western Europe. Rootless newcomers neutralize regionalisms.
The ultimate image of Europe of people who lead it now is the mirror image of that which was described in Praktischer Idealismus. That is without identity beyond the "European" identity - which will be whatever is convenient at the time. For political elites, who long ago forsook any commonality with those they lead the only relevant values are measured in physical units of mass and energy. And bodies.
This goes along the lines of internationalism/globalism in general. Any unity that isn't functional to the state power is dangerous. The end goal is a planet with one language, one mentality, one Britney Spears and one comedytard telling you what year it is and what opinions this means you should hold.
Forget about the sum of living human heritage. "Europe" will become an anti-cultural cancer on the face of the earth and will spread South to "unify" Africa.
>>61385475
*if this goes through
