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2: your thoughts on brexit
Intellectually everyone knows it was a catastrophic idea to leave, but it was worth it for the tears of the fucking liberals and progressives, especially the 75% of those aged 18-24 who voted for Remain.
Fuck you millennial progressives, fucking cunts. You think the world was yours? Fuck you!
>>61234166
The best decision the UK has made in a long time
>>61234166
Scotland will be leave from uk.
>>61234166
Worry about future effect
>>61234166
An incredibly foolish decision.
1: France
2: Glad for the brits, i hope we are the next to leave this shitty merkelkonzentrazionkamp called EU.
>>61234166
I think this is an excellent opportunity to stop handing out visas to British tourists bound for Amsterdam.
I also think it will be nice to see what the impact is on the British economy for leaving the EU, and how long it takes until you guys get cold feet.
Mostly I'm grateful that it happened, because now the EU might finally have a strong enough incentive to actually tighten up the immigration laws, think about deportation, and change the Schengen pact.
Clearly this is not Merkel's agenda, but far right wingers and nationalists are growing everywhere, and the only way to not alienate yourselves from your people as a politician is to put even harsher anti-immigration legislation on the agenda.
/essay
Brits are the Jebus of EU,
they will die and our sins will be lifted.
>>61234422
Only if we let them, if they declare their own independence they have no chance of joining the EU as every country with separatist movements would veto their membership.
>>61234281
>but it was worth it for the tears of the fucking liberals and progressives
No it really, really wasn't. Unless you're not in the UK.
Good riddance. Their neoliberals will no longer infect the EU.
I'm jealous.
Good luck to the free people of GB.
It's fucking insane, stupid decision
The question actually on everyone's mind:
"Will Britain stay in the Eurovision Song Contest?"
I didn't even know what Brexit was until today, I just saw the letters "BR" and assumed it was about Brazil.
It's a good thing. Fuck the EU and centralism.
1.- flag
2.- you're fool now flaklands is going to be argentinians and is all your fault!!
I dont give a shit.
>>61234618
in which we arnt
Well done britain! :D
Good riddance!
>>61234649
>a fuckling medpac
>>61234166
the stars on the eu flag don't represent the members and never have, so it make no sense to sympbolize the uk leave with a star missing
>>61234166
1-Flag
2-Meh, Memes aside, I think it is not going to be so castrofic how the mass media is saying. Yes, You will have some economic problems which will be solved with the time.
>>61234615
Not really. As soon as the Scots get their independence, states like Spain will argue Scotland isn't comparable to Catalonia for instance, so as to discourage them from seeing Scotland as a precedent for their own independence.
Scotland will have a second referendum, and this time they will leave Britain for the EU. Northern Ireland will probably remain. This event will rustle the EU into reforms. The UK will become a mess, and will later return as a diminished country to the EU.
>>61234659
Israel and Australia are allowed in, i think britain is safe
>>61234166
2. The absolute madmen actually did it.
I don't think it will help them in anyway though neither do I see it as the end of the world. I personally just wanted to see the SJWs and multiculturalists shamed and that is exactly what happened.
>>61234618
If I were a bong, I would have voted for Leave if I knew beforehand that result would produce comments such as this:
>My first response was panic. I’m a recent graduate, already facing financial instability, uncertainty in the job market, trying to work out my future. A leave result means more anxiety for me, more instability to navigate and try to understand.
>I’m also a woman of colour. From a young age, I’ve been aware of racist and nationalist attitudes in Britain, spread around the country outside of my home and haven of London. I’ve spent years watching people argue to dismantle the systems that allowed my mother and closest friends into the country to work, to lead better, productive lives. I’ve seen people screaming that my immigrant family (biological and chosen) are worthless, that they contribute nothing. And I’ve always felt unwanted, uncomfortable, underrepresented.
>This result confirms my fears. That my families aren’t seen as people, as human. They’re numbers, they’re a swarm, a threat. They’re not welcome here, and as a product of immigration, neither am I. With this result, England clings on to its colonial history, and I’m ashamed.
>Zainabb Hull, 23, London
Dirty, fucking millennials and progressives
1. my're flag
2. I'm happy for the britbongs. I have never understood why would anyone give up their autonomy for the sake of some socialist utopia. I hope this trend spreads around europe and we'll get more independent nation states.
>>61234824
Calling this too tqbh
>>61234615
Well, honestly I only worry about our economy.
I was really angry and upset at first but now I'm really happy for Scotland and Northern Ireland. It's pretty obvious that they don't deserve to go down with the ship. It will be really funny to see how England fucks itself.
>>61234166
I'm excited because this reinforces the US position of power in the west
>>61234832
I think they should join the EU as well.
I'm in it for the memes, just like all the leave voters. It's about sowing as much chaos as possible to escape the hellish boredom of our lives.
That's why people vote Trump as well
>>61234907
this 2bqhwy
It's a pity they'll still have to be tormented by EU for 2 years until Brexit actually gets launched.
>>61234771
Or the government will block the entrance to Scotland in the EU to prevent our independent to get any ideas. To this day, Spain doesn't recognize Kosovo for this very reason.
>>61234166
1. Murikan
2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciPu4DnKBuM
>>61234871
You shouldn't use words you don't know.
Look up utopia, and you'll see that a socialist utopia doesn't exist, and if it did, everyone would want to join it.
1) Italy
2) Pretty good decision, EU is cancer
>>61234871
>socialist utopia
Why are you saying this like a bad thing? Finland is way more socialist than Britain and your country is run amazingly well (compared to Britain). I want the socialism is bad meme to die.
![Tartan-Day-Parade-GOR-86494-12[2].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/it2SqWv.jpg "Tartan-Day-Parade-GOR-86494-12[2]")
>>61234824
>Scotland will have a second referendum, and this time they will leave Britain for the EU.
Looks like England will have to build a wall in that case.
>>61234166
1) usa
2) I dont think this will hurt the eu a lot in the long run compared to the uk.
Our new state and foothold into europe is soon to come. We will see a rifle in every mans home on the planet and estrogen filled meat in every gutter.
>>61235055
>he hasn't heard of Hadrian's wall
American education
>>61234871
It's going to be fun when the government decides to remain in the EEA and imigration will continue, but the UK will have lost all political influence and democratic rights they previously had.
>>61234166
Economically it's retarded, everyone knows that. Putin will also take advantage of it.
On the ither hand the leftist tears gave me a stiffy. BoJo's premiership and separatism will make politics interesting again.
>>61234871
>socialist utopia
>forced privatisation of public services
you bloody what ?
>>61234281
so much fucking this
Flag
I think brexit is an opportunity for EU to change, maybe our masters are shitting their pants now and they will start to make laws for people instead for banks and now we have a little hope that this refuge welcome madness will end.
We could maybe get a more democratic and political Union without the brits.
I hope both UK and EU will not suffer too much from Brexit.
I believe that EU and Eurozone must become one thing and if a country don't want Euro as currency must leave.
>>61234618
Guess where I am Brit.
>>61234166
The right thing to do.
Fuck the EU
>>61234166
Good boys, dancing by Overlord Putin's tune. Atleast they're still in NATO.
>>61234166
1. my flag
2. Will Spain and Argentina use this to finally claim their rightful clay?
>>61235289
They don't border Russia and they don't have russian minorities inside UK.
>>61234166
Brits are bunch of stupid, delusional, arrogant idiots
Most faggots here act like it's the start of the fall of Rome or some shit and it disgusts me. I think brexit is a great incentive for other countries to break free from our political overlords, but knowing those slimy fucks they'll pull every cord to keep it from happening.
Why the fuck are you lot so pro-EU? What the hell happened?
>>61234931
No.
>>61234166
1) Ireland
2) Crises as the UK is one of our largest trading partners. Opportunity as we are the only english speaking EU country now.
Short term problems and long term gain.
1- flag
2- Hopefully as a direct effect, EU will change and will react fast. I also hope you never recover from this move, economically or politically. At least i can read things like "how stupidity got over the brits" and such, makes me laugh all the time, i thank you for that.
Flag.
Times will get rough it short terms, that was to be expected. They'll benefit from the independence in the long run though. It was all worth it when more cunts follow.
>>61235197
Not really fair to bring up currency when you have jack fucking shit yourself, Grease. Pay denbts.
>>61235197
I agree.
>>61234845
>i have a right to live where ever i want to simply because i want to live there
As someone who greatly values individual freedoms, I have sympathy for such an attitude.
As someone who actually owns something of my own and worked for it and isn't looking for a handout, I have absolutely none.
>>61235359
Spain yes but Argentina has bigger problems than to try and take Malvinas back
I hope this leads to even tighter integration among the 27 (+ hopefully Scotland) remaining countries and eventually a federal European superstate.
>>61234166
1. flag
2. It's an error, but hopefully one we can all learn from sooner rather than later.
>>61234824
Even if there's another referendum, people in Scotland apparently don't yet realise we'll have to join the Euro, as soon as they realise that the referendum will fail
>>61235125
Hadrian's Wall doesn't exist.
usa
bad idea
>>61234166
Denmark is next
>>61234166
1. Flag
2. It's good for all of us.
>>61235428
I stopped being an edgy /pol/tard after 20 y/o
>>61234166
I don't know enough about international politics and economy to even begin to make an opinion that could be anything short of total bullshit.
That being said, I've read about how politicians plan on trying to fuck the shit out of the UK in the coming years with trade deals and such in a hope of preventing other members from leaving the EU, which is utter horseshit and probably the kind of mentality that caused the UK to leave in the first place.
That will backfire on them, I think. Unless Europeans are all actually hypercucks, I can't imagine a country's people willing to live under that kind of threat.
It seems to have been economically unwise, short and long term.
In the short run, there will be a recession and tremendous uncertainty as the markets adjust and everything is negotiated. In the long run, the UK will be in the same position as before, but with less say in how it trades with the EU. It still needs to play by the rules, but it can't influence as much as before. The UK had a generous position in the EU. It's unlikely any country will have as good a deal as that again.
Scotland may leave. That alone would make Brexit a historic mistake from which the UK would never fully recover.
Brexit, as it stands, looks pretty dumb. I'm all for kicking Brussels in the balls, but fucking yourself over so badly to make it happen isn't worth it. The advantages don't outweigh the disadvantages.
>>61235575
Neither does your sexlife, burgercuck.
>>61235428
They WERE anti-EU until they saw the impact on the markets this morning. Now they were always in favour of the EU.
>>61235575
It does, and it prevents cows from illegally crossing between England and a little bit south of the border with Scotland.
>>61235688
Forgot pic
>>61234166
>In 1776, 13 British colonies fought and eventually defeated their tyrannical, English overlords, earning their independence
>In 2016, 4 British countries fought and eventually defeated their tyrannical, German overlords, earning their independence
US and UK, united in their quest for freedom
>>61235737
Nice Meme-wall.
>>61235737
How tall was the wall in its heyday? Was that supposed to keep the picts out?
>>61234678
literally would not even have heard of it except for reading the 4chan.
>american media
>not even once
>>61234166
1. flag
2. I'm curious to see how they'll do on their own, although I'm not optimistic
The EU deserved this.
>>61235760
Can we have a Union Jack one of these?
>>61235633
>That being said, I've read about how politicians plan on trying to fuck the shit out of the UK in the coming years with trade deals and such in a hope of preventing other members from leaving the EU, which is utter horseshit and probably the kind of mentality that caused the UK to leave in the first place.
You realize that this sounds stupid?
>>61235760
>In 2016, 4 British countries fought and eventually defeated their tyrannical, German overlords, earning their independence
Shows how much you know Trumpcuck, 2 of those countries fought to remain, and now they're going to remain anyway because they won't be part of the UK anymore.
Burgerland
I think it's the most disastrous thing since the 08 crash.
It's not even the economics that scares me, what scares me is that we have legitimized the new nationalism mob of the alt-right-- which, if you ask me, is far more damning and pants-on-head retarded than any of the SJW shit we've been seeing for the past decade.
It also absolutely pains me to see the actual fall of the british kingdom. What fucking dolts
>>61235803
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GR6Jcp_vYVg
Do you love gooks?
1: england
2: concerned how this will effect my plan to go study cheap in Denmark In the future, anyone know?
>>61235760
And look how those 13 colonies are off now.
Wouldn't want to live there for the life of me.
>>61235621
Not an argument
So, does it impact my life?
>>61234166
1. Ireland
2. Good
>>61235737
Impressive.
Not even the Hoff could tear this one down.
>>61235646
You're the only American on 4chan, let alone /int/, that i've ever seen demonstrate a proper understanding of the referendum.
>>61234166
>have absolutely no plan whatsoever on how to transition after leaving EU
>only leave because one slightly bigger mob of plebs outvotes a slightly smaller mob of plebs
seems like a bad idea to me
>>61235854
>It also absolutely pains me to see the actual fall of the british kingdom.
This. It's kind of sad but it was also kind of inevitable. Good luck Ireland and Scotland.
>>61235852
Shows how much you know literallywho, nearly half of the colonialists at the time were Loyalists to the Crown and the majority of leaders didn't even want to revolt for the same kind of reasons people are saying it was a bad idea for Brexit, but they also realized that sovereignty is more important than bending knee to someone 10,000 miles away.
1. Spain
2. I'm OK if the UK want to leave.
>>61235887
It'll be up to 2 years of negotiations before an actual leave so maybe you still have time, you can ask for refuge status too
Germany
If it turns out to be a mistake we can learn from it, if it turns out positive all the better.
>>61235854
I think Brexit will be the vaccine that prevents further spread of altright aids.
Shame UK had to go instead of a country of cunts like the Netherlands.
>>61234281
This, I fapped to twitter last night.
The salt was great, it was testament to how shitty liberals are.
Everything goes their own way and they are happy, they don't vote and it does not go their way then everyone is racist, xenophobe and democracy does not work.
>>61235804
It's on the front page of every major American news outlet. Don't blame our media for your ignorance.
>>61235857
kek
A sad day for everyone involved
>>61235921
finish mrt first leh, then can talk about international politics
>>61234281
It has a 50/50 chance of going well I think
And now the EU will start breaking apart
>>61235840
How so? Because I used dirty words that wound your superior intellectualism or because you don't agree with the prognostication of experts?
It's not like I made that up. Go read some of the article floating around about the ramifications of Brexit. It's almost unanimously decided that there will be political backlash from the EU against the UK in an effort to prevent other members from dumping out.
>>61234166
1. Germany
2. I like it. After the UK has become a 3rd world county, nobody will care, if it becomes German property.
>>61236025
That's why in smart countries referendums require at least 65-80% of support for idea. Head to head results are not fair for such serious decisions
USA
I know nothing about these politics. I came on here to find out what happened
>>61234166
1.JPN
2.Brits have made a wise decision
>>61234166
Finally, we're not the only ones who aren't in the EU.
Good for anglos, hope they redeem themselves from the Union Cuckshed.
>>61234907
>NI
Their only option is to stay with us
>Scotland
Uncertain future, still a risk tbqh.
Brexit is 100% EU fault.
>>61235854
Why is trying to prevent the replacement of a population in its own territory, a wrong deed?
>>61235484
This. Ex-UK committing suicide by retardation will be a source of laughter for years to come.
1) England
2) The economists, political analysts, the business leaders, the scientists, the academics, the scientists, the environmentalists (most working in a cross border capacity) all had their thoroughly researched theorems and critiques hand-waved for the sake of simplistic, shallow populism. What the leaders were thinking leaving such a momentous decision to the general population is beyond me. The general population are borderline retarded. Especially the white working class. I know because I and my entire family are white working class. Anti-intellectualism was rife throughout the campaign and we've entered the age of Idiocracy.
>>61235646
The problem is the politicians will still say this is a good thing even when everything is crumbling around them and the working class idiots who have never read anything beside the Sun and Daily Mail will believe them.
>>61236181
But you are. You enjoy benefits of EU while you pay a tithe for it and take refugees
>>61236154
>It's not like I made that up.
Perhaps not. Maybe other people made it up.
>there will be political backlash from the EU
Nobody thinks this outside of Globalresearch.ca and /pol/.
You are retarded.
>>61235889
>And look how those 13 colonies are off now.
At least they're free you cuck. They'll (probably) get better within time. But at least they'll have the satisfaction of knowing they did it with their pride intact unlike you Merkel skitskin bootlickers.
I'm not well versed in European politics so I'm unsure of my opinion, though I'm pretty terrified. How will Europe be affected? My boyfriend is studying in Germany at the moment and I'm worried for him.
>>61234166
>you're
>>61235359
>"""""""""rightful""""""""""""
It'd be a ref for Gib and they'll probably vote to merge with Spain or try and become a microstate
>>61234281
>but it was worth it for the tears of the fucking liberals and progressives
This is exactly the kind of thinking that leads to stupid decisions like this. People see it as an us vs.them thing and care only about their feels instead of what's actually good for their country. It's literally the right wing equivalent of the REFUGEES WELCOME crowd
I think it's sad, but it might be better for the EU on the long term.
>>61236181
>pays EU
>has free movement
>implements regulation
>not EUs bitch
no point in playing tough
>>61236132
Nah EU is not arrogant enough only edgy btitshits
>>61236252
This is the price that champagne socialists and chatterers are paying for their contempt, disregard and attempts to exterminate the white working class. Soon, it will have its revenge across the Atlantic with Trump.
Progressives dug their own graves with attitudes like this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0diJNybk0Mw
>>61236349
>My boyfriend is studying in Germany at the moment and I'm worried for him.
I mean... He'll be fine. It's not that bad. It's not going to start a war. It's more bad for people living in England and Wales.
>>61234166
1.France
2.Greatest day of the last decade, there's a tiny chance that the EU could possibly work, now, without those assholes standing on the brakes to kill every useful advancement and trying to push for the US interests instead of the European ones. Not that I'm really optimist, but at least it's more likely to happen now, even if it's a very small chance
>>61236032
In 1836, 1 American state fought and eventually succumbed to their tyrannical, American overlords, forfeiting their independence.
>>61234166
MALAYSIA
UK = UNKEKED
>>61234166
a prank that went too far
Brexit means
All the rapefugees in calais will get entry to UK.
Lower wages
All the britcucks who reside in the EU need to leave or revoke their citizenship
well done Right wing retards
Seems way to overblown
A non-problem
>>61236349
Tell him to wear a Canadian flag at all times. English speakers are being targeted in violent attacks all over Europe atm
>>61234907
No one is expecting northern ireland to leave and leaving is a very unpopular opnion there, shows how stupid you are
>>61236313
But that's literally wrong. Google "uk leaves eu" and read some of the articles, from literally any news source.
The President Donald Tusk already said that measure would be taken to ensure other member states wouldn't leave the EU.
>>61236111
Ok gan x)
>>61236467
this, I don't dislike brits as people, but they were in the way of the EU train with all the exceptions they had in place for them.
>>61236467
Kill yourself you right winged limp dick fat faggot
>>61236252
Why are you surprised that the white working class fought back against the elite, after they've been trying their hardest to kill it?
>>61236376
I don't see Gib merging with Spain ever. Hell, part of why they voted to remain was to prevent Spanish claims. Nobody wants to be a part of a failing state, at least for the time being.
Politically striving for a microstate might be a possibility though. Spain will make life a pain for them, so they'll seek some form of compromise or escape.
>USA
The left has been dealt its worst defeat on a global stage since Bush won over Gore in 2000. Right now there's a deluge of tears and whining from the 18-24 demographic, but that will go away soon. Nobody likes a loser and, for the first time in more than a decade, the left is the side of the losers.
The forward momentum of the left has been arrested, and now with a couple elections in the USA and continental Europe the pendulum has its chance to swing back hard. People want a winner, they aren't going to wallow in misery with the left for very long. Minds change.
Never been more proud or patriotic. Glad Britain finally got it's balls back and the liberal traitors are defeated.
>>61236549
Maybe you should read beyond the headlines?
All EU officials have said UK will get a fair deal, but no favors.
They don't want them in the EEA because that would include free movement and the brits literally voted against exactly that.
>>61235428
It was economically negative, that's why. People are looking at the short term effects and thinking it was a huge mistake. The stock market and sterling will go back to normal soon, and we will have the same relationship with the EU. Hopefully it will force the EU to make drastic changes to prevent its dissolution that will benefit everyone.
>>61236572
not him, but i'm left and somewhat agree
>>61236231
>Why is trying to prevent the replacement of a population in its own territory, a wrong deed?
Because the logistics of doing so are fucking stupid and won't even solve the problem. Not to mention that the vote doesn't even represent the general opinion of the youth, i.e. the people who will actually inherent the country. The by-far largest voting bloc were people over the age of 60.
>>61236472
Hey, I never said we maintained that ideology. We screwed the fucking pooch as soon as the boat left the dock.
>>61236252
>Anti-intellectualism was rife throughout the campaign and we've entered the age of Idiocracy.
This is happening everywhere.
Democracy was flawed from the very beginning, but when the concept still had some novelty, at least people were more motivated to read up on political issues, and if they were not informed, refrained from voting. That at least is the impression I get.
We've entered an age where the public looks up to people like the Kardashians. We can't have these people deciding the future of their states, but I'm afraid a proposal to restrict voting to the educated will never be approved anywhere in this world.
1. Look at the flag cunt
2. Bad idea, but I suppose there's more to a country than GDP. If having the peace of mind knowing that no immigrants are fucking your shit up is worth fucking over your children's financial future, I'm sure Bob from Northern England will be just fine.
>>61234166
Good.
The europoor union will start falling apart.
>>61236342
>At least they're free you cuck
they're not free. they all bend the knee to their overlords in washington.
1. Poland
2. I only care about EU-funds, and we will be taking them in full size yet for at least 4 years, so i dont give a fuck.
>>61236651
funny how "liberal" has opposite meanings in our languages
>>61236031
Northern Ireland, they're like Wales they rely on us too much, they won't leave.
>>61236483
I can already see all the pensioners walking across the continent back to the UK from Spain like the expulsed Germans did 70 years ago.
Please make it happen.
>>61236420
Holland, France and Denmark have their referendums next. It begins.
>>61236678
I have read beyond the headlines. All EU officials have also already said that they need to take measure to ensure other member states don't follow suit, especially the northern states.
>>61234281
Good job UK.
You get the slim chance of regaining some semblance of a nation now.
I wish we could leave the retarded cuck union as well. With a bit of luck the arabs will push to migrate harder this summer and the EU and every Eastern Euro country will chimp out and this retarded marxist distopian project will finally die.
>>61236767
Theirs is the wrong one of course.
Libertas=freedom, so it should be a term to describe right wingers.
>>61236442
>It's not going to start a war.
Speak for yourself. I voted brexit precisely because I want a war.
>>61235760
How is the EU tyranical? You people are exactly like leftists when it comes to wordgames.
And then a few days from now you'll suddenly flip out at some dumbass lefty for using generalizing incorrect language.
>>61236709
Back in the old day, democracy was restricted to the rich, propertied classes and males. Guess what happened when it began to be expanded into universal franchise around the mid-20th century- it coincides exactly with the decline of the West.
>>61236498
The pound sterling disagrees.
>>61236549
>measure would be taken to ensure other member states wouldn't leave the EU
Is this what constitutes proof of EU reprisal against the UK? I think that's enough computer for one day. Put the glue down and go outside.
>>61236857
Als je ziet hoe onze minpres danst naar de pijpen van Juncker en consorten dan weet je precies waarom.
>>61236791
Those measures are letting the brits blow their brains out themselves.
It requires no exceptional actions from Brussels.
1. Suomi on paras
2. Bye Felicia
>>61234166
Amazing. Great to see the UK decide its own future.
>>61236795
>we
>
the result of a referendum in Bulgaria would not favor a leave
>>61236926
Laat maar zien waar je het over hebt.
>>61236904
Back in the really old day, in ancient Greece, another restriction was having a beard.
I think we should reinstate that rule as well.
>>61236904
It's got nothing to do with gender, moron. If anything women are more cautious voters than men are, and less likely to support pants-on-head retarded shit because "muh feels". It's a matter of psychology.
It amazes me just how poorly educated are some of you supposed first worlders. How do you misuse concepts you clearly are not even close to understand to try to get your (weak) point across. Referring to the EU, a clearly capitalist institution, funded and oriented to the safekeeping of the reproduction of capital within Europe, as a "Marxist political Union" or a "Socialist utopia" is just fucking dumb. Aren't you supposed to be the craddle of intellect? Use your fucking brain and stop believing /pol/ and r/european infographics. Fucking idiots.
>>61237003
Helaas moet ik in dat geval de gemakkelijke weg kiezen en je simpelweg alleen kanker toewensen.
>>61236514
Is that true? Are some Europeans really that angry about it? He speaks German
>>61234166
flag
absolutely amazing, the EU is just another overreaching layer of government not accountable to the people
>>61234166
Honestly now the whole thing seems random as fuck for such an important decision. Everything happened really fast and now the whole Europe is at a crossroads.
You have a bunch of industries and workers from Europe in your country who might have to leave and the gigantic void they leave will be up for you to fill.
You are also looking at a future government of suspicious characters without any real political experience or accomplishment. Not to mention the problems with Scotland and NIR.
You basically meme'd your own country to spite the EU and took others along for the ride.
>>61237010
>being a neckbeard
>>61237066
/int/ beats /pol/ in the degree of anti-intellectualism present
>>61236995
After Brussels sends us 80000 mudslimes in the next 5 years as it is supposed to happen according to our contractual obligations... you seriously think there's a chance we'll stay?!
LMAO.
>>61236752
>they're not free. they all bend the knee to their overlords in washington.
Just like you guys? When I meant free I meant not being duped by their politicians into ruining their own countries.
>>61237024
Women think only with their emotions, not with ratio. They will often vote pro-immigration because of pictures of little crying brown kids.
1. Brazil
2. Better on the long run
Of course the markets would react negatively, this adds a new unknown variable, more risk, but that's temporary.
>>61234622
I don't get it. Why are you so happy for your country to lose more and more of its sovereignty? I see it a lot from Spaniards. Do you hate your country that much? It's sadistic as fuck.
>>61237066
They don't know what Marxism is, it's a buzzword to rally up against.
>>61237066
If you're a leftie, things you don't like are fascist.
If you're a right winger, things you don't like are commie.
>>61237190
yea, any day now
lol
>>61237180
>/int/ beats /pol/ in the degree of anti-intellectualism present
Pffffffffttthahahahahaha
In a perfect world, the EU would be disbanded and it would return to a purely free trade and visa free area. It's not worth the bother or quite frankly the economic benefits when it plans to allow Turkey and Albania into the Union. Not to mention how badly it approached the refugee crisis and the euro crisis. Southern Europe is little more than a protectorate by now. So yes I voted leave, for better or for worse the EU has to either die or be seriously reformed.
>>61237066
Poor working class individuals have always been anti-intellectual no matter where they exist. This isn't a jab against them, it's just the way it is.
Then you have the educated who know Brexit is a bad idea but just want to stick it to immigrants or Brussels.
>>61234166
flag
memes
>>61234166
France
Excellent
Schotland een vrij continent? das wel nice, hun hoofdstad ziet er behoorlijk imperialistisch uit
>>61237282
I doubt more than 1% of /pol/ has even glanced at Das Kapital.
So they spout stale memes about jews and frankfurt.
>>61236767
It has the same meaning in our language too. The poster you're replying to is just retarded.
>>61237302
>>61237180
fug I meant it the other way around
>>61237209
Incorrect. Studies show that women tend to vote with their own self-interest in mind far more often than men do, and tend to stake out the political center and vote for whichever party is most centrist.
This means their voting patterns are more conservative (meaning stable and cautious, not right-wing Conservative) than men's are. Men, especially those with lower education, tend to go with their "gut instinct", which is a nice way of saying "feelz>realz".
http://www.slate.com/articles/double_x/doublex/2012/01/the_gender_gap_in_politics_why_do_women_vote_differently_than_men_.html
>>61237290
If we don't accept them there's a very nice penalty.
So we either get 80K Abdulbakur Ibn I Rape Your Girlfriend Tonight, or we pay out the nose.
Watch some non-meme news some times.
>>61235803
People were a lot smaller back then. Haven't you seen Night at the Museum 2?
>Britbongs compare this to the American War of Independence
>Forget that the US literally pulled a Scotland and sided with the French and continental Europe
The US knew it had to preserve itself and be friends with Europe to not be fucked into oblivious like Haiti would be some years later. It was a time of Empire where competition was not regional but imperial, so it was actually easier to benefit from alliances. The markets have changed and politics will now move to starker regionalism.
I think this is a historical mistake that sends ripples into helping nationalism and the new Far Right movements in Europe gain legitimacy. It is now harder for everyone and more uncertain.
>>61236767
It doesn't, that guy has just spent too much time on /pol/ and adopted American terminology.
>>61237483
Women base decisions on empathy. Men base decisions on gut instinct. Educated people base decisions on logic.
>>61237066
>Socialist utopia
Oxymoron.
>>61235197
>Brits decide themselves to leave the EU party
>Greece is thrown out the 2nd storey window
>>61237573
Don't educated people base decisions on euphoria?
>>61234166
Had to be done eventually, and better to do it now than later.
The economic problems associated with it were ienvitable, the economic problems associated with even doubting the EU were inevitable. But all of these problems are not the fault of any nation that leaves german vassalage, its the fault of germany for trying a sneaky underhanded way at european conquest. You could also say its the fault of people who did not see past their basic ruse in the first place, but dont blame the victim i guess.
Anything bad that happens is germanys fault, just remember that.
Oy m8s, so what are the main points to this Brexit?
I don't watch the news and a friend was just mentioning it the other day. From what I gather people were tired of funding all their takes to immigrants and their children? Also to break free from having some of your cities/business forced to do shit the EU wanted?
>>61237490
yea m8, except the part were all these theoretical things don't get past the voting stage
do you actually read news or do you glance through it while shitposting on /pol/ about the white genocide?
>>61237121
There's this meme again.
>European Council is just heads of government
>Council of the European Union is appointed national ministers
>European Parliament is chosen in public elections
>European Commission is comissars nominated by national governments and agreed upon by the parliament
>hurf durf faceless unaccountable brussels bureaucrats not chosen by the people
Forgive me for my lack of knowledge.
But why exactly did they leave?
Was it just the immigrants?
>>61237483
>>61237573
This. Never changing your view isn't good either.
>>61237563
You didn't choose to side with the French or Spanish. The French and Spanish offered to help you get independence to spite the UK, then you promptly forgot about each other and you wouldn't even help them when they had a revolution. So it sounds pretty damn similar to me.
>>61236068
>reading major american news outlets
topwew
Enjoy your recession stupid bongs
>>61237636
That is correct
>>61234166
I will only see it as a failure if Scotland and NI leave, so I hope the government will start to give them what they want now because we're pretty vulnerable right now. We need to come together again and prove the EU a joke
>>61237573
so, women, men and educated people are three seperate catergories? whew, l@d. Slow down.
>>61237785
Do you want her >>61237348 to vote?
Glad someone send a signal to the EU. Hope things will work out for them and that the EU starts listening to us more.
I don't think we should be talking about a Nexit yet, but the option should be there.
>>61237778
>England is vulnerable
Payback time for the worst allies
>>61237785
Men, women, and Fedorakins.
>>61236572
nah, go fuck yourself
>right winged
you know nothing
and on the contrary that's a big blow to the right wing politics in Europe, as UK was the biggest advocate on extanding more and more to more countries instead of deepening the links between the already existant EU. The biggest advocates for more deregulation, for more fiscal and social dumping, for more free-market to import more cheap worker from eastern Europe. The bigges advocate to prevent any step towards an European army that could have undermined the NATO's and US influence. The biggest trojan horse for the US politic in Europe. The biggest advocate for more TAFTA shit.
Them leaving is the biggest step towards a better built European Union that would actually be an union, rather than a free-market zone searching for more cheap workers. Not that I have much faith in the politics, as right now the trend seems to be "we'll try to fuck UK as hard as we can to make an example of them and show to the people what they must not do", instead of actually trying to say "OK, people want more democracy, more parliament, less behind-closed-doors agreements and European Comission, let's do what we can to bring more democracy and sense of citizenship".
>>61237696
Partially immigrants, partially mistrust and dislike of Brussels and Germany's leadership of the EU, and partly to remove the power the EU has over the UK. The EU is not a nice institution and it's useless at solving the many problems it helps create.
>>61237696
>Brits are unhappy with their politicians
>all the politicians say to stay, except edgy farrage that voices their opinions about dem bloody migrants
>FUCK THE ESTABLISHMENT, ANGLAND
yes, it's a combination of anti-establishment + anti-immigrant sentiment
It's literally Trump - the Uk edition
>>61237066
Does NAFTA fuck your country or just the US?
>>61237890
>rather than a free-market zone
>what the fuck am i reading
It started out as that, yes, but it's far from that right now. We need to go back to that, and tell the socialists to go fuck themselves
>>61237778
This. Scotland will be happy as long as the long term economic situation is not bad. Especially now with low oil prices. Northern Ireland gets a large amount of subsidy from the UK and they don't want to lose this.
>>61237658
Those are all simply triggers and things that were 'final straws' to a lot of people.
The big issue is soverignty and not lettin germany bully them around. On principal the EU is a disaster, and while britain was able to enter with some special terms owing to just how powerful it was, a lot of smaller countries are basically enslaved to the EU, unable to have any will of their own due to their dependency on financial support (which is partially caused by, and certainly reinforced by, various policies and trends caused by germany, watch the video catastroika to understand how the germans consolidate power by making nations indebted to them within the EU)
On principal then, doing everything you can to hurt the EU is the right choice. In the long run the EU needed the UK more than the UK needed the EU. London is a world financial capital, much more so than anything that now remains within the EU. Bankers and the elite would prefer to work with the EU only because it makes things easier for them to get rich. But fuck those people, why do we care about them? England has resources, a decent military considering almost everyone but us has just given up on maintaining any military, they will be fine. In the end its not fictional fiat money moving around in bank servers that is wealth, its hard resources, food, materials, and military capability, that measures a nations strength.
As long as the population realizes they can overcome these temporary hardships they will end up better off than they were.
>>61237658
For me it was just because I was against centralism
Also because I didn't expect it to actually happen and I wanted to be able to say 'it's not my fault I voted out' when the EU piss us off
>>61234931
>Letting literal Jews in the EU
>>61237986
Don't forget the slimy opportunist Boris Johnson, who only backed leave to further his political career.
>>61236641
>Trump elected
>Holland, France and other countries exit the EU, effectively shattering it
>Right wing dominate on a world stage
>???
Per ada astra
>>61236641
>the left
>the left
>the left
Cameron wasn't even on the left. This drivel is most likely coming from someone who calls himself a "national socialist" and calls others comrade on the circlejerk known as /pol/. It's also cute how you think this will make UK win in any shape or form.
>>61237845
But Portugal were always best allies ;_;
>>61237833
>Glad someone send a signal to the EU.
>>61237845
England is part of the reason portugal is it's own nation
>>61237986
You say that, but look at how the politicians approached it - they overtly lied and exaggerated what would happen if we left, gave no specific details as to what would happen and refused to give us a viable alternative. Then they set the unwashed masses on the poll cards. It was an utter shambles from start to finish and Cameron is primarily to blame for that.
>>61238146
>it is own nation
>>61238085
Boris is actually UKs chance at saving some of what survives the initial exodus
He could make a EEA deal, which would betray the referendum indirectly, but save UK in the long term.
He could also fuck it up.
>>61237845
Perplexing post my friend
Celtic super-state when?
>>61238223
I completely agree, I believe 'stay' lost this more than 'leave' won it.
Cameron should kill himself for fucking up this hard.
>>61238233
>He could also fuck it up.
This is far more likely, but we'll see how much Paris and Berlin want to fuck London over in the hope that some of the banks and multinationals move their operations to the continent.
>>61234166
Im country?
>>61238298
>'stay' lost
They were spending tax payer money on stay propaganda and plastering stay all over the entire country.
Or are you saying this revolted people enough to make them vote leave?
>>61238317
>Berlin
Frankfurt more like it, we will see regardless
>>61234166
Its shit, an unrealistic deal, nothing beneficial for anyone except rich idealists and stupid patriots, the shittest economic policy you can ever imagine.
Though its not even a policy, this is just an IDEAL has no pragmatic power to the reality but only gets their economic situations worse IN FACT.
Of course they can get rid of immigrants but that's all. From the point of view, you can easily understand that this is way worse than Abenomics that Japan has done against a recession over years and been bumpy.
They are gonna suffer and get through a bunch of economic problems that come out of Brexit. It definitely will breed a recession and stagnation. And I highly doubt that the effects are ever gonna be cleared up in the near future and things gonna turn out fine. I think it will last for over a decade even in the best case.
They have been misinformed. I know nothing about how media has driven things about Brexit on them but figure this result couldnt have happened without media hyperbole.
>>61238233
I have no idea whether Boris would be good at this or not. I hope that he'll join the EEA and give us a very similar situation to the EU, and then slowly extricate us from the continent as we gain new trade deals.
>>61234166
US
EU fucking sucked, but UK sucks more. If the UK was a human, it would give the best blowjobs on the entire god damn planet
>>61238387
I'm saying they played into the hand of 'leave' at every turn,
They played into the 'project fear' meme, they played into the 'people have had enough of experts' meme. It was a massacre. This referendum was a easy win for stay before they fucked it up, look up what the polls said back then.
>>61234166
The sooner the eu collapses the better
godspeed britbros
>>61238387
Their main campaign was
Don't vote for Farage's Britain
Anyone voting out is an idiot and we laugh at you
If you vote out you'll cause ww3 and the end of western civilisation
Osborne came up with some drivel using projected differences in GDP not taking into account population changes to say that we'd be £5000 a year worse off per household if we leave the EU which any sane person can see is complete bullshit
You can see why people were so repulsed.
Thanks for fucking us.
Hope it was worth it.
EEA entry only if you take our refugees
>>61237072
Of course not. Are you fucking stupid?
The rest of Europe is currently too busy collectively facepalming to punch anyone.
Well, besides the alt-rightist I guess. They think this is the second coming of Christ.
>>61238705
Angela please stop posting
Grexit. Departugal. Italeave. Fruckoff. Czechout. Oustria. Finish. Slovakout. Latervia. Byegium.
which one do you pick?
>>61238705
Thanks for fucking us. You knew we weren't happy, you refused to negotiate and now this happened. Juncker telling us there would be no more negotiation was the catalyst pushing us back to leave.
They actually did it, the absolute madmen.
>>61238655
>Osborne came up with some drivel using projected differences in GDP not taking into account population changes to say that we'd be £5000 a year worse off per household if we leave the EU which any sane person can see is complete bullshit
>>61238759
can it or France will spill more of your wine
this is a FrancoGerman union now
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Hate the UK and the EU, so I wanted this to happen. Even though it is going to fuck us over as well. But it's going to fuck them harder, so whatever.
>>61238821
>Juncker telling us there would be no more negotiation was the catalyst pushing us back to leave.
Do you actually think the leave voters know who Juncker is? The catalyst was immigrants and mondeo-man's inherent fear of immigrants.
>>61238828
Take a look at his actual data. He tried to directly link GDP with household income over a period of 20 years, ignoring changes in population (higher GDP inside EU was primarily down to higher population). It was ripped to pieces by parts of the media but shamefully lauded by the BBC and the remain campaign. It was all disastrous.
>>61238821
why the fuck do you feel entitled to more negotiation? You had already all the optout you wanted
Truth is, Europe was and always will be a scapegoat of your politicians to put aside internal political strife.
You could have been the leading voice in Europe if you were willing to invest in the project more, but evidently it wasn't meant to be.
>>61238985
That was the reason leave was popular. Remain was winning until the day of the election where Juncker said that and it was widely reported in the media. That if we vote remain, nothing will change.
>>61238655
That IS the remain argument though, thats the only argument.
What is the alternative? "If we leave, things will get worse off for a little while."
Most people who think past next tuesday are not going to weigh that against soverignty and think you should thrown out centuries of self governance.
Their only choice is to fabricate extreme consequences of leaving because the only thing truly bad long term that could result from leaving are fictional.
The fact that they took these measures should be evidence that everything is going to work out for the best in the end.
This is how you must analyze a situation. Do not look at whos for something, look at whos against something. Do not look at arguments for a thing, look at arguments against a thing.
The least honest side is the side you want to vote against. You dont need to actually understand anything else about the issue.
>>61235575
ive stood on it fuckface
there's even another one called the antonine wall, further north between edinborough and glasgow but it's more of a ditch
>>61238828
No one claimed the economy was collapsing in January.
This will be remembered as the beginning of the end of the era of democracy. Churchill knew his countrymen well, and he knew they were far too stupid to realize the gravity of what they were voting for.
>>61238869
don't forget Italy, they have more power than people usually think
and the middle/eastern block around Hungary may not have a lot of economic power, but they're loud and stand their ground
>>61238985
I know who juncker is and im a stupid american
>its all because of dem raycists
nope, its because people with sense have saved you from the 4th reich and you hate them for it
>>61239104
>feelz vs realz
Yes, this sure is good critical thinking advice.
>>61234166
>Serbia
>I don't give a fuck because probably nothing will happen.
>>61239090
Because the EU is not a country. It is a club and countries can enter and leave. If you don't keep countries happy, they will leave. We proved that last night. The EU was not giving us the flexibility we needed and the same is the case with many countries, hence Holland, Denmark and maybe even France will leave.
>>61234166
1. Freedomland
2. Seems dumb imo.
EU is ass so I support fully
>>61234649
>says the country that has been prospering through and through outside the EU
>>61239183
>implying churchill would have been for the EU
he hated germans
>>61239090
Britbongs like to think they're "special" but with this move they're going to be about as relevant as the Island of Man or Guernsey.
>>61236680
Basically this.
>>61239227
Europe is a common project, if everyone is caring only about their own business, and if were to accomadate every single one of the countries, the EU might as well not exists.
>>61239104
The remain argument is an analysis of what would happen in either scenario and showing why being in the EU is better. Telling the public it will cause ww3 is dishonest and disdainful and the people could see this. The remain campaign had a reputation as a result of these remarks.
>>61239273
Oh yes being a puppet of USA is much better.
>>61239309
>Britain is comparable to Switzerland
>Switzerland could not gain even more wealth inside the EU
>>61234166
1. Iceland
2. about time you did it
>>61239323
>Island of Man
lol I might start calling it that.
>>61239227
>hence Holland, Denmark and maybe even France will leave.
dream on
1. Quebec
2. I don't know what the fuck is going on, but it's better not starting a WW3 you fucking Britishfags!
>>61236680
>and we will have the same relationship with the EU
that's not going to happen Oliver
Probably was not a good idea.
It was a very democratic process, the majority has voted and their decision must now be respected. That's what I like about Britain and they're right, the EU is heavily beuracratic and certain processes aren't democratic, that needs to change.
However I think most people voted based on feels, as some kind of fuck you to the establishment and a fuck you against immigration. Most of the problems of the poor areas that voted (Wales, Northern England) is caused more by the UK government and not the EU.
Overall the decision will bring instability and will slow down growth in Europe which sucks because the Americans and Chinks are all laughing at us right now.
>>61239383
yes it is
>>61239321
You... Don't even know what I'm referring to, do you?
>>61239115
Again unrelated. This was long term and if you actually read what is written you will see your picture is irrelevant.
>>61239385
Yes.
No.
>>61239196
By all means if you can look at all the factors then go for it, but you almost certainly never can, because everyone who speaks on the matter is going to be lying about it, information is going to be surpressed, 'lost', stalled, classified for security reasons, etc.
The elite want you to be in the dark, and you are, but they are also egotistical enough to have flood lights illuminating every single one of their faces for us peasants to look at. As long as we can keep track of them and see what they say and do, we can match events with their actions. When bad things happen, see who was for it, and then never trust them again for anything.
Its a perfectly reasonable approach.
>>61239227
thats how we started out
>>61239323
>a major power with a population of 65 million is suddenly going to be Guernsey because it stopped caring about a bunch of treaties LOLLL
Kill yourself.
Welcome back england
>>61239450
>Most of the problems of the poor areas that voted (Wales, Northern England) is caused more by the UK government and not the EU.
Some of those places were getting more social services and job training assistance from the EU than from the UK. The sheepfuckers really shot themselves in the foot.
>>61239090
this
From the day they entered after begging several times for it, they claimed shitloads of opt-outs, rebates and special snowflakes rules for everything, and on top of that they got them. Then decades later they came back and said "i-if you don't give us more opt-outs, w-we'll leave, serve your right, a-ahahah!". Ang they got some more. But it was not enough for them. They wanted every advantages and benefits without having any of the obligation. Pure parasitism.
Of course the EU wouldn't stand for that. Even that fucking Junker who led Luxemburg for years and helped his country hiding thousands of billions € in tax evasion.
>>61239383
Puppet of the US or puppet of germany.
Pick one. You could also go to russia i guess.
>>61235549
>federal European superstate.
>>61234166
I have nothing against the British, but thank god they left, along with all their opt outs and special snowflake syndrome. Leaving doesnt set a precedent, all that special treatment does.
I hope this will push integration further creating a stronger and more united block without one of its members always cock blocking stuff.
Also time to cash in on those old brits living in allllgarve even more.
>>61239564
>You could also go to russia i guess.
Only if Corbyn somehow becomes PM. God help us all if that happens.
>>61239490
Nope. Dont have to, supercarriers m8.
Thats how the world works
I know germany should have never been rebuilt.
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They will be alright if they increasely open their market for a non european scenario, but they will sink if they try some protectionist policy. The problem is that the population only care about the short term effects and they will make riots and complain about everything. The EU has more to lose with brexit than the UK.
>>61239383
EU is already the puppet of USA (now with Germany playing the kapo). It was designed for this.
>>61239342
You mean like Germany cares so much about the welfare of the southern shitholes it crushed with the Euro? Your country is dead because of this common project, and you suck up to them still.
>>61239474
That's because you are a burger yourself, the reason I still want an Union of the European countries is because I don't want to be a puppet of USA or being bought by China.
I hope UK will be as indipendent as possible.
>>61239700
My country is dead for other reasons which come from a long time ago. The fact that we're in the Euro only stopped us from deevaluating currency to hide problems.
This just proves how stupid the average englishman is. They are in a REALLY bad position for negotiating trade agreements, and all the international corporations that england were living off of, will probably move to scotland, WHO WILL JOIN THE EU and give uk (soom to be england) the finger.
Good
Fucking
Riddance
I am totally speechless
>>61239541
just like flyover states wanting less gubburment
>>61239560
Considering how much your regulations fucked up the continent, I'm rather glad we decided not to take them on. If you were smarter you would as well, though all your CAP money kept you happy I suppose.
1. Worst Korea
2. A big fuck-you to Krauts and High Priests in Brussels. Nicely done.
>>61239644
You do realise that Russia isn't the USSR anymore, right?
Putin's Russia is incredibly right-wing. Are Jezz is incredibly left-wing. Nigel Farage would be more likely to align us with Russia than Corbyn.
>>61239691
Hell no, the trade war between the EU and new world is absolutely brutal, we banned their fucking bananas just to piss them off.
Doesn't really effect me, like most of the minor EU countries.
Germoney will still give us free euros so who cares about the brits.
>>61239847
This basically confirms Brexit was the wrong decision
>>61239787
The euro means you are unable to recover and are now dependent on Germany. The EU only benefits Poland and Germany as it stands. Your country could easily stand on its own feet again if you were able to control your own currency
>>61239787
How is are the new voting laws coming along? Aren't you having a big vote on those coming up soon?
I'm telling you how it is: The leave campaign was filled with false propoganda and lies, with even Nigel Farage admitting to some of them this morning. Most leave voters are old fucks who have just ruined the future of younger generations. This was a terrible decision and Brits will suffer for it for years if not decades to come. France just overtook Britain as the worlds largest 5th economy. Britain is weakening, and with the expectation of becoming "Great" again, it will have only harmed it's influence in global politics. You're slowly becoming more irrelevant.
>>61239787
Your country is dead... but instead of reviving it artificially with currency devaluation, now Germany is cutting out his corpse to eat it.
>>61234166
Actually American, but living in Scotland.
I wish I could say I find it shocking that the a voting public could ignore every warning from the majority of party leaders within its own country, heads of state of its allies and trading partners, and the overwhelming majority of economists, but I'm frankly not. We've been moving towards this in both countries for years, with concurrent anti-intellectual and anti-establishment sentiments that have taken a popular hold. The result is an electorate that's disenfranchised, but too politically and economically naive to understand what they're disenfranchised over or the arguments on either side for how to actually solve problems and govern a country.
So now you have simple, substance-free slogans like "Hope", "make America great again", and "take back control" that garner a frightening amount of support because they speak to that low/no-information audience who want to be told that things will be better and who are intimidated by people who actually have a detailed understanding of how that can be accomplished.
>inb4 fedora meme
Being educated isn't a bad thing, and it's not "liberal indoctrination". Hell, I'm not even a liberal: if anything I'd be a centerist, I'm just very concerned about democratic procedure and an "informed electorate" is critical to how Western representative democracy works. Trump, Brexit, even Obama's tenure are all just symptoms of a widespread failure to meaningfully engage populations in the democratic process.
>>61239450
>the Americans and Chinks are all laughing at us right now.
not really
UK was the US' biggest and most useful tool to directly influence the EU and have a say in the political and legislative process. Loosing this tool will definitely hurt them.
China has its own fair share of problem right now and in the immediate future, enough to not really have the time to laugh at the EU. Plus they're till massively dependant on their exportation to the EU, and something that could shake its stability is not really good for them on the short term. It could serve them on the long term though, as when it comes to negociating stuff, the little fish UK will have a much weaker voice than the big fish EU. UK might think they've won back their sovereignity, but they've become a significantly smaller fish in the pond without the EU to back them.
>>61235854
>alt-right
Take your fringe movement and fuck off back to /pol/. Most people don't give a shit or have even heard about the alt right.
Nationalism is a good thing, the people chose nationalism over globalism. Stop fear mongering like a fucking nigger.
>>61239977
b-but we'll have billions more pounds for the NHS, r-right?
>>61235852
There were some good Scotsmen. Probably the true ones. Shame we cant identify them :^)
>>61239943
yeah
I don't like them, it doesn't help that they come with a constitutional reform that's a halfway abortion between parlamentarism and presidentialism.
It leaves too much power in the hand of a single party, and it doesn't solve the problems the last one had.
Quite the shitshow.
I'm not sure of how it's going to go.
>>61240064
I know you're beint sarcastic but I urge you and all Brits to watch this:
https://youtu.be/cA3XTYfzd1I
Nigel Farage literally admits to the Leave campaign lying about how the NHS will get more funding if they leave the EU. Sickening.
I'd be very happy with a free trade and free travel union. But if you can't admit that the EU is destroying half of Europe for Germany's gain, then you deserve to die slowly.
>>61240064
I know you're beint sarcastic but I urge you and all Brits to watch this:
https://youtu.be/cA3XTYfzd1I
Nigel Farage literally admits to the Leave campaign lying about how the NHS will get more funding if they leave the EU. Sickening.
>>61239827
less government would free up more money for projects though.
Ideally the number of government employees would be the absolute minimum, and all that money saved would go into free healthcare and guaranteed basic income. It could pay for it all easily.
>>61239813
>They are in a REALLY bad position
They could literally blockade the mediteranian to all shipping. This is how you diplomacy.
We parked a navy off the coast of japan, and now look at them! One of our best allys!
>>61236051
>>61235854
Altright AIDS are the lesser evil when it comes to that particular choice.
However most countries (very much including our own) have bigger problems than what the altright addresses and focuses on (poor brown people) - corruption, lies, theft.
Less potential radical islamists is good, but less important than fixing corruption, lying and theft in most countries.
>>61240064
That's the crazy thing, Bongs on this very board will argue that the precincts that voted to stay get the most support from the EU, but knowing that and voting to leave is either knowingly taking on those precincts as part of an independent United Kingdom with the intention of replacing the EU as the source of redistributed funding, or that they'll cut off those precincts and likely trigger local independence referendums like Indy2.0.
Either you're taking a hit from the money you'd "save" not being part of the EU anymore or you're admitting that you don't give a shit about the Union as a whole: only England. Either way, we're looking at a very real possibility of a Little England instead of a Great Britain, and it's saddening.
>>61240239
cannot fabricate
this should be illegal
>>61240295
Basic income is a terrible idea. Efficient redistribution is taking from those with lots of money and giving it to those with little. Giving the money to everyone only fucks over the middle classes whose taxes end up hiked because the rich don't pay their taxes any way.
>>61236684
>the logistics of doing so
Fuck off you dirty nigger bastard. We're not nations of immigrants, the right of the natives to enjoy the fruits of their and their ancestor's labour comes above the right of some backwater cunt to leech off that work.
>>61239830
CAP was efficient to give Europe its food independance, rather than being dependant on Chinese, Russian or US cereals. But now, the funds are misused and not directed at the good guys, which is a real problem.
Also, France is actually a net funder of the CAP, meaning it gives more to the budget than it receives. Killing the CAP would benefit us. And don't forget that UK is one of the country that receive the most funds from the CAP too.
>>61240363
Yeah, they totally should! Then they will probably die of starvation a little quicker
>>61240205
>Sickening.
Go back to tumblr.
japan
I think merkel is pure evil but brexit is not that good idea for UK.
>>61240451
France receives 1/4 of all CAP funds. We get 9%.
>>61240239
>every notable economist, world leader, and party leader is wrong
What. A. CUNT.
>>61240552
which doesn't invalidate what I said in any way
>>61240584
If the remain campaign actually tried rather than telling scary stories about how brexit would cause another holocaust, perhaps people wouldn't have been taken in.
>>61240584
They are right, only what their goals are is something other than what they say.
Listen to them and do what they say if you want THEM to get stronger, richer, and more powerful.
>>61240678
Take off your tinfoil hat.
>>61240671
It validates what I said. You get a very nice deal out of the EU, which is why we had such rebates and opt outs to stop us from getting pissed off at it.
>>61240678
>every notable economist, world leader, and party leader is making money off our REAL, DECENT PEOPLE
>I know this to be true because reasons
I repeat: what a cunt.
>>61240672
You can't really do much against a hillbilly britbong who uses lying and cloak and dagger tactics to pander to the uneducated and stupid retards that apparently makeup most of the population
>>61240807
This desu
>>61235889
They are pretty well off desu, shouldn't have let go of New Amsterdam
http://www.statista.com/statistics/248063/per-capita-us-real-gross-domestic-product-gdp-by-state/
>>61240807
Maybe calling them stupid retards was part of the problem? Don't fuck with a britbong
>>61240807
They don't just make up most of our population, I'm sure Denmark has just as many stupid uneducated retards as us.
>>61234166
1:Rich Coast
2:It's not the end of the world as media wants to put it. it will be hard times for the UK, lets see what happens next.
How is the next one?
I've read something about Netherlands being the next one, how feasible is it?
>>61240807
Then what exactly are you complaining about? It's done, now we find the best solution for all of us.
>>61240753
>muh conspiracy meme XD
its not a conspiracy, its just human nature.
>>61240786
its hyperbole, but absolutly based in truth.
>>61240986
Just remember you can inspect those cargo ships faster in british ports, so if they simply agree to use britain as the entry point into europe of all atlantic shipping, it can be handled much faster!
>>61240807
>>61240839
There was a televised debate, you know. The Brexiters were repeatedly challenged to "name one notable economist who supports your assessments". In front of a live audience. Their responses were "take back control" and "we know this to be true".
The Brexiters were greeted with thunderous applause. That is the sort of person we were dealing with, upon whom logic has no effect or occasionally even a NEGATIVE effect.
>>61240986
If you voted remain, then i feel really sorry for you, because there is no "best solution for all of us"
so people decided to temporarily sink their own currency (and economy), and massively impact their own economic opportunities in the future all for shitposting and MEMES?
Trolling is supposed to make christopher poole TIME's person of the year. Trolling is not supposed to sink national economies you fucking idiots
>b-but muh SJW tears
please commit yourselves. You're not functioning adults.
>>61241098
There certainly is. You want British trade, we want EU trade. We don't want the extras, so we have a free trade agreement. That's the best scenario.
>>61241089
You're absolutely right. This may sound elitist but seeing as how stupid and ignorant the average voter is, I'm starting to think we shouldn't let the people decide on matters of this scale.
>>61240935
All the stuff Nigel said about Danish majority wanting to leave EU is not true, just fyi
>>61241089
>That is the sort of person we were dealing with, upon whom logic has no effect or occasionally even a NEGATIVE effect.
Kinda like us and Trump supporters.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkCifM0kDd0
>>61241174
But please, magically they'll get rid of immigrants now that they're out of the EU. So definitely worth it, right?
>>61241203
Democracy has always been a bad idea. Cameron made a boo boo when he decided to pledge a referendum.
>>61241174
most leavers were old folk
doubt they did it for the lulz
Anyone else find it weird that Russia can invade with an army, take Crimea, and be seen bombing parts of Ukraine, and people give a shit for about a month. Now England just wants to leave a Union and people are acting like THIS is what's going to cause ww3?
The fuck?
>>61241282
there are reports of at least a couple leave voters who regretted their decision because they didn't think it would actually matter
>>61241289
They're upset that Britain decided to take matters into its own hands and it's impacted them negatively. Economy isn't everything.
>>61241089
What's the solution? Is there a way to make politics and intelligent debate interesting? Or has democracy had its day?
>>61241289
shit is piling up
can't you smell 1939 in the air?
>>61238419
Says the guy from the country with negative interests...
>>61241289
>look at what those leftist retards are saying
>ignore the currency values and stock markets
you have to go back
>>61241192
Yeah, but that is only true of england remains the european capital of trade, which i doubt, even more so if scotland joins the eu party. Basically if scotland leaves you guys you do not have a very good position, imo
>>61241215
The danish leave campaign just needs better scapegoating and catchphrases. That is literally all it will take to put you (or any other country) in the same retarded boat as us.
>britain seen as a backwater by europe nobody cared about
>untill it become a global empire
>now europe wants it back
>it narrowly escapes vassalage
well done!
Remember it was current day EU members who were pillaging your monasterys. Dont trust them, dont need them!
>>61241280
This is true however. Pure democracy is a bad idea, this is why the US is a representative republic. I dont understand why europeans seem to favor straight democracy more.
>>61241289
People were saying ww3 when crimea annexed itself from the fascists too.
While this is a bigger deal, theres also no russian involvement. Whos going to start ww3 exactly? Germany has no nukes so its not like they are going to get all upset and attack england. France and england would never seriously hurt one another, they depend on the rivalry too much for their cultural identity.
Does anyone else in europe even have nukes?
No ww3. France should get out, make an alliance with the UK, which makes an alliance with the US and russia, and then who has nukes to stop us? Let france run the continent, break italy back up into the smaller states since they are cuter that way, give them good trade deals though because i like italians.
We can give control of eastern europe to poland, and then start removing kebab.
>>61241370
The solution is that you spoon feed them.
>>61241289
>former soviet centerpiece gobbling up former soviet states
>Major european nation leaving union that was formed out of a result of 50 years of war.
Russia doing Russian things is to be expected. This is not. Should (and I'm not saying it will) Brexit encourage other EU states to leave, you basically end up in a state of Europe not seen since you fuckers started the two worst wars in human history
>>61241339
I've already seen one /int/ poster saying this.
>>61241623
>the US is a representative republic. I dont understand why europeans seem to favor straight democracy more
derp
>>61241089
So this is how liberty dies...
>>61241223
Trust me, I see the parallels.
>>61241370
Honestly... no, I don't think healthy democracy is something that we can revive because the people who are supposed to be "informed" on the issues confronting their respective nations are either too deep inside their echo chambers (this goes for left and right equally) or just don't WANT to be "informed", and interest groups are too wealthy and too influential.
I fear the US Legislature is a taste of what's to come, with so much gridlock and interest that it becomes literally impossible to govern. Nothing short of a constitutional convention could even stand a chance at fixing things, and not only is that impossible to get enough support for in the current political climate but you'd never get enough people to agree on a single solution.
Hell, you couldn't do it the first time. That's why Connecticut came up with this nifty two-house system that's been a colossal failure on several levels.
>>61241623
You do know geopolitics don't work like a computer videogame GS/RTS right ?
>>61240044
We had a political movement selling hope, patriotism and neutrality in the 1930s. Nothing got better, our state became authoritarian and we lost all of the little influence we had in Western Europe. These same people later gave up our country without firing a single shot and either escaped or got killed.
>>61241759
>derp
A representative totalitarian superstate with out directly elected representation but instead second hand appointed ones is not the same as what we have.
If the EU simply saw the wisdom of our constitution, and modeled itself after that, than something probably influenced by pagan arian germans, i would have no problem with it.
>>61241223
YEAHH, YOU CAN'T CONVINCE US WITH YERRR "ARGUMENTS"
>>61241623
>Does anyone else in europe even have nukes?
Nukes are the only thing that has prevented WW3.
>>61241866
Everyone in europe except few have representative democracy
>>61234622
You realise the entire EU is a neoliberal establishment? If you don't want to be controlled by neoliberals, follow on Britain's path and tear the EU down.
>>61242060
The good thing about the EU is that everyone can hate it, either as UDSSR, neoliberal estabilshment or the 4th reich, all depending on your views.
>>61241902
Oh, i see your point of view. Of course you are right, but understand as an american, my deffinition of 'war' has changed.
To me 'war' is something that is symetric. Asymetric things are 'policing actions' or 'incidents' or such things. Partially so i can say ive never lost a war, and also to keep the whole thing less sensational.
So as long as everyone with nukes is on the same side, then there wont be a real 'war'. There might be some skirmishes or something, but i expect peaceful copitulation, particularly from the more sensible parts of the world who dont have a religion based on getting themselves killed. After all, europe has no religion at all anymore, seems like self preservation will kick in and they will gladly welcome their new french overlords.
By the way, on case anyones wondering. What im doing is 'kidding on the square'. I realize how absurd i sound, how you would take it as some sort of joke or just an idiot on the internet. Im doing my best to present it that way as well, for entertainment purposes. But at the central heart of the matter, i see no reason why we shouldnt just do that. Ive grown to dispise germany over the last 5 years or so. Keep in mind i used to be a wehraboo and think germany got a bad rap in the 20th century, but ive come to recognize that churchill was correct about them, and i see through their plots. Well three strikes and you are out. Nothing against individual germans mind you, they have just never ever been able to govern themselves with out trying to destroy the world.
>>61242196
It's a uniting influence.
>>61241773
>>61241370
>>61241089
> falling for the democracy meme
You will be much happier if you understand that respecting the will of the majority is not the main argument for democracy, but rather a necessary evil.
The majority is usually stupid. Stupid in the sense that most people do not consider different options and logically choose the best one in a Hegelian process. People don't want to listen to any rants about subjective and objective revolutionary conditions, perks and downsides of free trade or the challenges of the welfare state in a multipolar world. They want politicians with balls who shout "WE'RE BETTER THAN THEM! LET'S SHOW THEM!" over and over.
Reminding them that this fact only shows their stupidity in public makes them even more militant.
>>61242196
EU really is the king of all scapegoats. No matter what it is, you can always call it their fault.
>>61242489
So basically it's the 21st century Jew
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