FRANCE IS NOW THE WORLD'S FIFTH LARGEST ECONOMY
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The British Pound has has fallen so far that France has overtaken them
FRANK'D
FRANK'D
GALLIC'D
just
>>61219038
>And now remain gone illegitimate faced buggerfolk! And, if you think you got nasty taunting this time, you ain't heard nothing yet! Daffy English kniggets!
FRENCH FRIED
It's been ~5 hours, do these people not know what quarterlies are?
>>61219264
fuck
>lost to Normans, lost their Anglo-Saxon kingdom
>lost to Americans, lost their Empire
>lost to Frenchmen, lost their United Kingdom
JUST
>>61219038
le lel
>>61219038
I'm really really really sad about the UK leaving the union, what a tragic day
BASED FROGS
>POST TFW WHEN YOU WILL SEE BRITKEKS CLEANING POLISH TOILETS IN YOUR LIFETIME
Euro has dropped too how does that work
But Brits don't have to pay anything to EU now. They are saving money :^)
>>61219038
this is funnier than i expected
>>61219776
>pasty British hands
>able to handle a toilet
>>61219038
So, do France have new hero like Napoleon?
Who can be Napoleon of our times?
doesn't this mean the UK ranks below California? fucking kek
>>61219554
It might be a good thing.
Brits where never passionate about Europe, in fact they were trying to hold back EU the best they could.
Now with UK gone, we finally can acchieve some goals that are long overdue, like the finacial transaction tax
>>61220015
Le Pen
>>61219554
>Le Continental Cucking System 200 years later has been activated
>>61220120
Or like destroying it once and for all
>>61219882
You dropped more and faster.
>>61220402
That's a risk, for sure, but I dont think this is gonna happen.
In fact, if Britain goes to shit, the people in Europe might learn to appreciate EU more
>>61220120
>finacial transaction tax
>literally Tobin tax
Don't get ahead of ourselves now
It'll bounce back in a week
we used to call gzregorz to fix the toilet
now rasheed will call us to find out what the white porcelain thing is in their water room
>>61219554
I'm pretty unsure about what to think, probably because I don't know enough about the causes and consequences of that act.
Could someone educate me a little bit on the subject?
Right now I guess I'm just experiencing some kind of Schadenfreude about how Europe is going to blow up.
>>61219882
it's just a bunch of businessmonkeys going full panic mode over nothing.
shit will normalize and not that much will change.
brits will go from EU fees and paperwork to trading fees and paperwork. almost every expert says they'll lose out on it but nobody really knows so fuck it.
nothing will change. nothing to see here. move along.
>Japan has halted trading on the pound and UK stocks. The financial meltdown underway is unparalleled.
>https://twitter.com/dkberman
Oh you know the brits fucked up , kek. Good luck , UK!!!
>>61221210
It started to fall again after than peak.
>>61220120
>in fact they were trying to hold back EU the best they could.
To the extent that it was becoming more a more like a bloated federal superstate in its own right instead of a mere political and trading union between partners. I hope you enjoy the trappings of imperalism again, it'll suit you far better than does us.
>>61220823
>In fact, if Britain goes to shit, the people in Europe might learn to appreciate EU more
That's probably unlikely. Whatever happens now the EU will look vindictive and harsh in its attempts to stop future members attempting to leave.
>california has a higher gdp than france
>>61221014
UK is crashing this plane
>>61221060
don't forget that your country got fucked by those 'businessmonkeys' more than once
what does that say about it?
>>61221210
>>61221479
It's 1.37 right now
>>61221210
Wait for New York to open.
It should be fun.
>Getting the entirety of europe to dislike you and creating your own recession
>it's just temporary guys, we'll recover don't worry
new insight into Britain 2025
>>61220900
economy
>>61221653
forever
>>61221634
>>Getting the entirety of europe to dislike you
Why would they dislike us? This would be a pathetic and petty reason to dislike us. If exercising the rights any nation-state can take is considered distasteful to countries like France and Italy then they can honestly go fuck themselves if they're not going to be mature about the whole process.
Nobody in the UK hates the French or Germans or Italians. This isn't about them.
>>61221634
>>it's just temporary guys, we'll recover don't worry
When have we not recovered? Britain is the most stable country on the planet. We haven't had a serious invasion in over three centuries.
>>61221490
A federal superstate is exactly what Europe needs, to be able to compete with USA, China, and other growing powers of the future.
>Whatever happens now the EU will look vindictive and harsh in its attempts to stop future members attempting to leave.
Yes, and it is in EUs best interest to see the UK fail
>>61221620
1.36 now.
>>61221740
>If exercising the rights any nation-state can take is considered distasteful
So no country could ever get upset if you went to war with them because it's any nation-state has the right to enact war onto another country?
wew laddy.
>>61221765
>A federal superstate is exactly what Europe needs
>look at your flag
ah yes
lel these funds have started to unleash the 1st setup lelel
>>61221847
every relevant European country had its Empire
Only thing we had were Hitlers 12 years of Autism
We be part of an Empire, for once
>>61221765
>Yes, and it is in EUs best interest to see the UK fail
And you don't think that that vindictive shittiness would cause anger and resentment to grow amongst countries in the EU?
>A federal superstate is exactly what Europe needs, to be able to compete with USA, China, and other growing powers of the future.
I would love for there to be a federal superstate. But not by the year 2040. Everything you and France have done with the EU has been in the pursuit of a European peace, sure it's a noble goal, but you didn't have to act like non-violent imperialists in order to reach that objective. If the Commission had been slower and less nakedly ambitious and ideological, Britain would have grown comfortable with it. Most young people here are already massive Europhiles.
>>61221842
Don't be an ass. The closest analogy I can think of is if you're a Scientologist and then you try to leave the Church, then get brutally hounded on the way out and stalked and your personal finances ruined, for the sole purpose of discouraging others from leaving. It's a dick move.
>>61221765
>A federal superstate is exactly what Europe needs
Are you trying to trick me again Hans ?
>Vote, Great Britain, claim your independence
>And what must we give in return?
>Everything
>>61221905
What is the HRE, dingus.
Also, being one of napoleons bitches might count.
Also roman empire.
>UK HAS NOW ALSO A SMALLER ECONOMY THAN CALIFORNIA
>>61221905
>every relevant European country had its Empire
>European country
>country
let's play a game of spot the hole in your logic
>>61221956
>What is the HRE
>"Holy"
>"Roman"
>""""Empire""""
>expressing GDP in currency exchange rates
>>61220015
me, I am italian too like napoleon
>>61221490
>Whatever happens now the EU will look vindictive and harsh in its attempts to stop future members attempting to leave.
To be honest most of the EU hates you now, not likely
>>61219038
Value of £ = size of the economy
You know what, I really used to think it didn't, thanks for educating me 4chan
>>61222008
Suck it up my gallo-roman friend.
>>61221765
>Yes, and it is in EUs best interest to see the UK fail
Mon ami. Let's rejoice ! We have a continent to rebuild !
>>61222038
Yes, but why? What about this whole thing could possibly make the rest of Europe hate us?
Is this just a board meme where you consider everyone with a flag as indicative of that entire country, or do you genuinely now feel slightly disgusted with the UK?
>>61222107
I mean seriously, everyone who was ever in some way involved with the Holy Roman Empire should just bury the memory deep down inside and pretend it never happened.
Even just thinking about it gives me second-hand embarassment.
>>61221931
UK was always the biggest roadblocker
Now France and Germany are the sole big powers in EU.
And since we have a very good mutual understanding, I think futher integration is more than likely
>>61221956
HRE was shit and Napoleon failed eventually
But this time around, we have the chance to create an Empire, not by conquest and blood, but by peaceful negotiation and cooperation
>>61222069
They import almost everything though, the currency drop is quite bad, catastrophic if it doesn't bounce back in a few days
>>61219038
It has nothing to do with the Brexit desu, France has always been ahead. The UK just add very generous estimations of their "illegal economy" such as prostitution or drug dealing to their GPD to make it looks bigger.
>>61222162
As a french I never liked you much but I sure hate you now. You're making the europeean project in peril for a foolish nationalism shitty project and put the already suffering economies to test again. Also you never played by the rules so fuck you
>>61222256
yes yes France
HOWEVER
>>61222162
>What about this whole thing could possibly make the rest of Europe hate us?
Mmmm. . .
Yes, Yes, Well done Brexit... Well done Brexit...
HOWEVER
>>61222162
Everyone with whom I talked today kinda hates your guts after this and these are not people that browse 4chan.
>>61222162
>do you genuinely now feel slightly disgusted with the UK?
I do now, a little bit, yes. I don't know about everone in your country but 52% of them may be actually retarded. You're now in a weak as fuck position to negotiate with the EU and you're already with the emotional manipulation: "dont be vindictive guise", "we can still be friends :DD" like some slut caught cheating.
I don't know, maybe I'm irrational but I don't have a lot of respect for the UK right now.
>b-but spain is worse
>>61220120
As a Brit, I think it would be fucking hilarious if the EU used this as an opportunity to implement all the reforms that they need, completely sorted its shit out without being weighed down by UKIP's dead weight parliament members, and became something great. Then in a couple of years Boris and all the retarded fucking "MUH IMMIGRATION MUH GOLDEN AGE" reactionaries will be stuck living in their fucking 130,395 km2 version of Luton, remembering a time when they had clean water and some semblance of order and any economic or political influence at all on the global stage, and will come begging to be let back into the EU, and the EU will laugh at them and tell them to fuck off.
I cannot wait to leave this godforsaken fucking country.
>>61222273
>Also you never played by the rules so fuck you
British judges famously are obsessed with EU law and apply it all over the fucking place, far beyond the level it is applied in France and Germany. If that isn't playing by the rules i'm not sure what the fuck you're talking about. We were never part of the Eurozone so obviously we had 'special treatment' in that respect, but that meant we had no say over EU fiscal policy which was a huge drawback.
>You're making the europeean project in peril for a foolish nationalism shitty project and put the already suffering economies to test again
If you think stopping the total obliteration of English and Welsh culture and the end of a free NHS is is a foolish nationalism project then you're a tool.
>As a french I never liked you much but I sure hate you now
I think you're letting /int/posting get the better of you. The fuck Anon.
>>61222256
France could be economically as strong as economy if you would cut your social entitlements and wouldnt strike so much
>>61219038
kek
>>61222473
Yeah yeah, we could be all mighty if we'd stop eating, sleeping and having fun.
Unfortunately we're human beings, unlike Germans, and we care about something else in life than "muh GPD".
>>61222356
>>61222439
>>61222446
The markets get spooked by anything, they're controlled by complete fucking idiots who never look more than a month ahead and see uncertainty as something terrifying instead of an opportunity unlike the capitalists of the 1980s.
>>61219038
>france
lmao.
bremain butthurt sure is intense. MUH 2 HOUR ECONOMIC OUTLOOKS
>>61220015
Me, a french american
the holy union between the two greatest countries to ever grace this earth
>>61222446
And adding to that, Cameron resigned, which means he'll only be a mediator, which gives the british government frailty at this point.
>>61222450
I feel sorry for reasonable Brits like you.
But I think the biggest problem of UK is that it is still trapped in it glorious past, still thinking it is a relevant Empire and still has to keep the continent weak and divided.
And while I am sure Brexit will hurt UK a lot, it is a great opportunity for EU
>>61222555
Fucking amateurs
>>61222473
>you would cut your social entitlements and wouldnt strike so much
We know, and we'd be there had we had some opportunity to oust the left from our country. Unfortunately, from the Second World War onwards, they've been able to conflate the right-wing with nazis and Vichy, and we'll never get our country.
What's horrible about the left is that they clearly know that they're ruining the country. In the words of my father Gilles Bonaparte-Clairon, "to be a leftist, you either have to be smart but corrupt, or plain retarded".
>>61222463
I usually never come to /int/ but today is a special day. UK at first laughed to the european construction then cried and begged to come in when it saw its economy was behind and we let you in.
It was a mistake, your only interest was economic and it never changed. UK was alwats against a political integration because it is its doctrine since centuries.
Now that you're out, me might have a chance to start this shit anew or not. But it will be without you
If you voted for Brexit, you are a racist
Thank's old mans
AHAAHAHAHAHHA
>tfw going on UK holiday tomorrow
My holiday just got a lot cheaper
>>61222107
the HRE is a meme my kraut friend
>>61222610
>valuing the America-France alliance, over the Russia-French Dual Entente
:c
So what is going to hapen now in european institutions?
The british will be ejected in due time, which will be a tremendous blow to euroscepticism. That's good, right?
>>61222664
tbf the French right-wing have some pretty questionable views
>>61222555
>Unfortunately we're human beings, unlike Germans, and we care about something else in life than "muh GPD".
This attitude is the reason why we conquered you in 2 weeks
>>61222664
Pray Juppé gets real and elected and finally puts his reforms from 95 to motion. That's the last chance we have before the country explodes
>>61222693
better secure those seats
>>61222738
Such as?
They're honestly as right-wing as your Labour is, quite regrettably for us. Thank the Heavens for Thatcher changing the consensus in your country.
>>61222747
Four weeks.
Or are you talking about 1870 ?
>>61222615
>But I think the biggest problem of UK is that it is still trapped in it glorious past, still thinking it is a relevant Empire and still has to keep the continent weak and divided.
Nobody thinks that. We think that the UK is still one of the richest and most influential countries in the world, because it is. That doesn't translate to being some sort of empire or superpower.
>and still has to keep the continent weak and divided.
Nobody thinks that either. There is no fear of the EU as an entity from the outside, the fear was from being inside it.
>>61222667
>UK at first laughed to the european construction then cried and begged to come in when it saw its economy was behind and we let you in.
What are you talking about? Charles De Gaulle vetoed us.
>UK was alwats against a political integration because it is its doctrine since centuries.
Not always. Political integration in the long run is good, but you're a complete and total cuck if you think being part of an organisation that is unable to reform in as basic a way as allowing government by elected officials instead of unelected Commissioners is a good idea.
>me might have a chance to start this shit anew or not. But it will be without you
You're not reforming the old empire of Charlemagne. A grand old Franco-Allemande alliance which had the entire continent at its feet.
>>61222801
Everybody knows that the FN are antisemitic scum which was created by collabos after the war. Don't act as it is pure anon
>>61222747
>This attitude is the reason why we conquered you in 2 weeks
Don't listen to him. He's a "muh happiness" leftist, and it was under those very same leftits that our war effort faltered in 1940.
Had there been a right-wing then, as we had been ruled over in 1914, we'd have strained your invasion a lot more. But at that time, the leftists were of a "ah fuck it" attitude with the war, and inevitably we lost.
>>61222716
>not going on holiday in France
shame on you, nigger.
>>61222664
I am not too familiar with French domestic policies, but aren't your strong unions and agricultur lobby the problem?
For example, I remember seeing pictures of French peasants destroying trucks that import food from other EU countries and actually getting away with it. Such shit wouldnt fly in outher countries
>>61222820
Charles de Gaulle vetoed you because he knew what was up : you were closer to the US than you were to Europe and only profit interested you
>>61222769
>Pray Juppé gets real and elected and finally puts his reforms from 95 to motion
I don't get it. Why must everyone praise him as someone's that's "libéral". He's so clearly leftist.
>>61222895
The german empire was the biggest guy on the block, maybe behind russia and possibly the uk.
One on one I don't know who would have been able to win pre ww1.
>>61222895
>But at that time, the leftists were of a "ah fuck it" attitude with the war, and inevitably we lost.
The only complain we can do about the leftists prior to 1939 is theirs laxism towards Hitler and their will to avoid conflict. The defeat in 1940 is a strategical one and has few to do with politics
>>61219089
>>61219107
What?
We Franks had nothing to do with this.
>>61222917
This, he knew what was coming. Trying to make a political union with the 52nd state of the US was a bad idea from the get go
>>61222942
>He's so clearly leftist
How so ?
>>61222982
we wuz frankz n shit
>>61222917
This. De Gaulle was so based
>fights Nazi
>cockblocks Nato
>cockblocks the eternal Anglo
Too bad we dont have any politicians like him in Europe these days
>>61222909
>but aren't your strong unions and agricultur lobby the problem?
They aren't nowadays. They'd once embodied 40% of the active population, but these days, only 1% or so of the population pertains to those trade unions.
Which is why they're so desperate to be heard. It's undemocratic for 1% of the country to be dictating the government's course of actions with their strikes.
And nah, that was when they'd destroyed their own produce from what I recall, because the EU slowly has to downgrade the budget for the CAP, so farmers aren't earning what they once did. But it's necesarry sadly. We can't be spending too much these days.
>>61223058
Also was against letting in algerians.
he was right about everything.
>>61221740
The rest of EU see the Brexit more like a failed political move of Cameroom than a popular movement. In matter of Diplomatie, Uk just succes to piss of: Eu for causing brexit in a full imigration crisis, USA cause Uk is there own lapdog in EU.
TL;DR: Everyone hate you for being self centered jerk.
>>61223058
I know. We lack a proper guidance and strong, upright political will to accomplish precise goals
France should leave EU and join the African Union because they are niggers
>>61222571
Yeah m8, the entire world fucked up except you
>>61221922
>And you don't think that that vindictive shittiness would cause anger and resentment to grow amongst countries in the EU?
In Hungary, maybe. But otherwise, no one will care. If Britain chooses to leave the EU then it doesn't get to complain when the EU sees them as a competitor.
>>61223058
>cockblocks the eternal Anglo
>after they shelter you and help you liberate your own country
You don't see anything wrong with this?
>>61222978
>The defeat in 1940 is a strategical one and has few to do with politics
We were bereft of planes because the Front Populaire had not busied themselves with renewing our army's armament, and I can't even tell you how much we lost by letting the Stukas have aerial domination. And the military service had been shortened by their will.
It may be a strategical defeat, but our retreat would've been much later had it not been for the left's policies.
>>61223080
Based Algerian ouiaboos
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harki
>>61223138
>Literal penal colony accuses another country of being niggers
kek
>>61223192
He knew you only wanted to join the Union for economic benefits and to keep Europe weak and divided
>>61223186
>If Britain chooses to leave the EU then it doesn't get to complain when the EU sees them as a competitor.
You don't get my point. There's a difference between fairly allowing the UK to leave and treating it as a competitor, that's reasonable. There's a big difference between that and being as deliberately shitty as possible in order to make an example of us. Most Britons would like to one day rejoin the EU if it was reformed but something like that would permanently turn Britain against them, and for a project supposedly geared around peace in Europe that's probably a stupid idea.
>>61223232
The only good Algerian is a Harki.
Stick to that philosophy and you're set for life.
>>61222693
In 31 years they can have a referendum again for the EU.
>>61222571
>complete fucking idiots who never look more than a month ahead and see uncertainty as something terrifying instead of an opportunity
Perfectly describes the Brexit camp tbqh
>>61223264
Don't be so cocky just because you voted out m8
You're still years behind us in stopping the boats
>>61223285
Harkis are literal collaborators and cucks.
>chose to leave the EU
>"EU please be nice to us we gud bois"
Fuck that, we need to make an example out of these cucks
>>61223217
Yeah right, the economic crisis has nothing to do with it either. I mean it's not like we had no money left to buy new equipment. No what we had to do was either :
1/ invade germany sooner when it was unprepared
2/not getting fucked in the Ardennes
If not for the Ardennes we would have never suffered such a débâcle in 40
>>61223273
>rejoin
oce kaki nece kaki
>>61223267
>He knew you only wanted to join the Union for economic benefits and to keep Europe weak and divided
This wasn't 1815. We are talking about post-war, when the U.S had demanded the total winding up of the Empire.
>>61223192
>iimplying harbouring french revolutionaries was not a perfidious move to later profit on it
Please.
>>61223314
Collaborating with France is the shit though!
>>61223273
I don't think EU will go out of this way do deliberatly fuck UK over, but you must understand that it is in the best interest of EU too see UK fail, to deter other member states from following the British example.
So i really doubt UK can hope for favourable trade deals
>>61223273
>There's a big difference between that and being as deliberately shitty as possible in order to make an example of us
Too late to complain about that m8
>>61223303
Most of the brexit camp will be dead in one month anyway, most of them are 65 years old and more.
>>61221765
if the EU wasnt trying to out sjw twitter and actually cared more about europe and its people then id actually agree with you
>>61223273
>Most Britons would like to one day rejoin the EU
TOP JAJA
Rejoin so you can leave again when daddy grounds you for laundering money for the russian mafia? Come on son
>>61223346
>This wasn't 1815
For Britain, it was. You were still trapped in the Empire mentality back then. You are even trapped in this mentality right now
CAN'T PRANK THE FRANK
CAN'T APPALL THE GAUL
>>61223341
>1/ invade germany sooner when it was unprepared
>2/not getting fucked in the Ardennes
>If not for the Ardennes we would have never suffered such a débâcle in 40
True. Germans may never concede this, but they got so fucking lucky for being unchallenged whilst assaulting France from the Ardennes, and that France hesitated to invade them in 1939.
Would've been funny for WW2 to last only a year, and be confined only to german and polish lands.
>>61223273
>there's a big difference between that and being as deliberately shitty as possible in order to make an example of us
But they're not going to do it to make an example out of you, they're doing it because it is in their best interests.
>Most Britons would like to one day rejoin the EU
Then they shouldn't have voted to leave, rejoining will now be almost impossible and even if it did you'd have to make more concessions to the EU.
>>61223441
I think you fell for the /pol/ boogieman, friend
>>61222647
>ANDALUCIA
Laziest and most glorious of meme-lands.
>>61223479
Fuck you Algieran go back to Algiers
>>61223273
In fact, you'd really have to beg to be let back into the EU.
>>61223491
And now we still have to suffer from the shame of this defeat up to this day
>>61221740
>Nobody in the UK hates the French or Germans or Italians.
Sure.
Fabricated stock crash, so it's cheaper to rearrange ownership of British business after this declaration of independence.
>>61223585
Not if I twist the situation on its head by invading GErmany in merely under one week.
All we'd have to do nowadays is enlist our muslim population, and at the sight of them prowling on the German-french border, the germans would all fall to their knees for these muslim "refugees" and would give them control of their country in less than a day's work.
And now Germans might carry the shame.
>>61223572
There would a massive opposition and understandably so. The EU needs some estability and the UK has showed that, as a society, can't offer that. Im sorry but I think this is forever. I'm sure they would remain some preferential trade in the bilateral agreements and some other perks but the UK is on its own now for everything else: dealing with Russia, the muslims, the economy, whatever
good thing wont come free
>>61223585
don't worry frenchbro. the more time that passes the more history becomes a blur, and the Battle of France will eventually be no better remembered than pic related
>>61223661
Hey we should do like in this swedish series where the EU asks Russia to invade the country to make sure the oil keepd getting pumped to the union
>>61223709
*retain
"Too hot to think here"
Spanish Empire unofficial motto
>>61222725
>Russiaboo
THE TRASH
#REKT
best europe
>>61223138
t. an abo
>>61219038
Protip:
INVEST in pounds like you're on fire for fucks sake!
>pic is literally the UK to the muscular independent colonies now
>>61223709
I don't give a shit, to be fair. Roll on Scottish independence.
>>61223507
not at all m8
its actually rather obvious
>>61223705
That might actually work. That's not like they have an army anymore anyway
>>61223756
Good times
>>61223756
Davout truly is my spirit animal.
>>61223525
100% French, boyo
>>61223819
EU cares about economics, not about american social justice ideals
>>61221740
Nobody "hates" you but EU will definitely try to cripple you now to show that leaving EU is not good.
In fact Schäuble and Merkel are already preparing exactly that
http://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/international/brexit-referendum/brexit-news/eu-ohne-grossbritannien-schaeubles-geheimplan-fuer-den-brexit/13783492.html
>>61222165
Have you paid any attention to EU politics for the last 4 years?
When Sarkozy was president Germany and France had a very good working relationship and acted as the core of the EU but since France has shifted further towards left-wing protectionism that close relationship has largely broken down and Germany alone has become the core of the EU.
It is why Germany has been one of the leading voices against Brexit, because the UK, being more right-wing and pro-market, has become a necessary counterbalance against France. Without the UK it means Germany is at serious risk of losing its status as unofficial leader of the EU as the balance of power shifts to the southern bloc.
Further integration is now certainly more likely but it would almost certainly mean integration on terms less favourable to Germany.
>>61221962
AND THE HOME OF THE BRAVE
>>61223911
Honestly at my uni i dont know anyone whos on the level of the american tumblrtards. Even the girls with dyed hair and glasses are still tolerable.
>>61223911
This, other than peaceful status quo the EU has been mainly an economic endeavor in order let the region have parity with Russia/USA and now China.
Britkeks what were you thinking? The only immigrants you fucked over were the Eastern Europeans, which as far as I know weren't the group you were afraid of.
>>61222895
Most of the resistants were communists,while all the "silent majority" cows like you were the collaborators, my surrender monkey friend.
>>61224029
France will go right again in one year though
GBP/USD hit 1.38 in March. Today it's 1.37
also did you know that a weaker currency helps exports? If your currency is cheaper so are your products. China keeps their currency artificially weak, which has powered their economic boom over the last 20 years
>>61223987
My german is very rusty, what does it say ?
>>61224072
>Most of the resistants were communists
No, in fact most of the communists were collaborators before 1942.
>>61224029
Hollande wont remain president forever, and I hope for France to get their shit together eventually.
With a strong France, Germany doesnt have to stand on the top alone, and the combined goodwill of both contries will allow for futher integration steps to happen eventually.
>>61224029
>pro-market
>against free trade
Jesus christ
>>61220120
This
>>61224072
They sabotaged our own industry, all because the Third International had ordered them to revoke their allegiance to France, and be "gud bois" to Hitler.
Fucking leftists.
>>61222463
>Thinks that leaving the EU will preserve the NHS
Osborne and Hunt are going to obliterate it.
>>61224072
>le resistants were communists meme
>>61223870
>100% French
Your English is very good considering its your third language...
Unless maybe it's your second behind Arabic of course
>>61220120
fuck off Merkel and fucking die you Europe ruining piece of shit
>>61224093
>Exports
Niggers what does this mean for my british passport??
Can i still live in france???!!??!
>>61219038
It's just temporary I guess
>>61222895
>He's a "muh happiness" leftist
Unreal fucking world where you are allowed to express your opinion freely
>>61221740
>Nobody in the UK hates the French or Germans or Italians.
wew lad
>>61224324
Not for long Charles
>>61223815
That would be stupid.The pound will fall down even more.They will be made an example of.
RIP Britain.
>>61224298
>this is the economic position Brexiters want us to renegotiate our trade agreements with Europe from
At this point I'm not sure we haven't earned it.
>>61224093
Literally the only export is Scotch.
So what happens when Scotland leaves?
>>61224241
>I'm going to call it a meme so I can end the discussion and feel like I won the argument
>>61224324
Until the EU and the UK agree the UK's exit, which WILL happen within 2 years at most, you're free to go to France. After that you're fucked.
Can a Spanish friend tell me where their government is about the Gibraltar question ? It's time for some rebalancing.
As for France, I think we should stop taking care of those dirty migrants in Calais and let our british "friends" welcome them. Our city is filthy right now because of them
>>61224443
You tell me
>>61224443
Scotland has oil
>the size of the California economy surpassed France earlier this year
>French economy has now surpassed British
top kek
>>61224419
Indeed. The EU indeed will most certainly not want to do a deal with their biggest customer. Who needs to sell them automobiles and the like?
The German car industry alone will cuck Merkel into giving in.
>>61224298
that's probably due to artificially strong currency. People follow incentives and trade will restructure to accommodate pricing. The image you posted is a good reason to leave the EU for countries like Spain and such that have overvalued currencies determined by German economic might.
In fact the high value of the Euro is largely due to the Export strength of Germany, it would be beneficial for countries with trade deficits to leave the Euro Zone. In the case of the UK the overvalued GBP is largely due to the power of the City and the huge amount of Financial Services trade, leaving the less educated people in Trade jobs in a shitty position.
Bankers giving the poor the shaft, never heard of that one before
>>61224543
To be fair, California had basically been in an economic boom since the gold rush. It's kinda fantastic to see.
>>61219254
GAUL'D*
>>61222555
Double Trips of truth
>>61221060
Nothing will change in the long run. Except we got an unneeded setback to economic recovery and all of Europe lost billions for nothing.
There is literally no upside to this. Just lots of money and time wasted.
>>61224656
Hey, you're Swiss. At least your buying power is increasing once again.
>>61224443
See>>61224521
Scotland gets 90% of the known oil in the North Sea and all of the unexplored claims around Orkney (iirc) if it attains independence. Edinburgh and Glasgow are also financial and manufacturing centers as well, so while Scotland wouldn't be a powerhouse it wouldn't be badly off.
>>61224631
GOA'ULD*
>>61224740
Those same financial companies that were ready to run south of the border if Scotland voted independent last time?
Sure okay.
>>61224567
>that's probably due to artificially strong currency
No, it is because we have fuck all industry. Thatcher deliberately took it apart and tried to make the UK a service economy. Now, it's just far cheaper to do it all in India and China.
The UK can't compete without a massive reduction in the quality of life and massive investment which is just not going to happen.
>>61224472
>I'm going to call this nationalist "collabo" so I can end the discussion and feel like I won the argument
>>61224401
>>61224488
Kk, thx bros
>>61224708
It's not good for us either. We are dependent on the well-being of the rest of Europe.
>>61221014
UK just cucked themselves out of voting rights in the EU while their economy will either continue to be integrated into EU through a EEA agreement (that will include free movement and paying EU)
Or their economy will literally burn to the ground because it will become highly uncompetitive with whatever trade deal EU gives them.
>inb4 trade with anglosphere
USA has no reason to give you a better deal than EU besides their 'special relationship' (pic related)
>>61224796
That was when England was a safe bet, and still a part of Europe. Money is moving elsewhere due to volatility, and it things go as badly in the long term for London as many economists seem to think it might an independent Scotland that's still a part of Europe could be a very attractive alternative.
>>61224796
Financial companies are preparing to run out of London since they will lose their ability to sell into the EU and handle euro-denominated transactions.
>>61224766
Hah!
You deserve a GOAULD medal, brother.
>>61224796
But now its 'Stay in Scotland which will most definitely join the EU' or 'Go to non-EU member Britain'.
>>61219038
One year ago:
>UK set to overtake Germany as 4th largest economy
Now:
>UK drops behind France
Top kek.
>all this salt from continental cucks
>>61224914
Doubtful. The financial institutes would run to Frankfurt before they ever went anywhere near Scotland.
>>61222450
Come here lad
If you can use a hammer Christchurch needs you
>>61222162
I always felt disgusted with UK and its people since the day i met them for the first time.
>>61222450
The EU HAS to capitalize on your stupidity (as a country, not yours) otherwise we'll just appear as weaker then you are, and that would mean the downfall of the EU.
I so wish things could have gone otherwise, my dearest Brit friend.
There is no future for France without England :(
>mfw frogs and krauts don't realise their own industry will cuck them into giving into the UK
>>61224796
They were running to London precisely BECAUSE it would still be in the EU.
>>61222982
>>61223040
Ahum,WE wuz Frankz 'n sheeet
>>61224398
>Nobody in the UK hates the French or Germans or Italians
We don't though.
>>61225025
I'm not talking about where they were going, but rather the fact they were leaving.
Scotland isn't a safe bet for anyone. Those same institutes would run to the continent immediately.
>>61224418
>That would be stupid.
Want to own a lot in the future? Invest. Buy. Brits aren't coming back to EU in a while and even quitting will take up to 10 years, so yes. Invest and buy foundation!
>>61224957
>from continental
That's salty >>61224029
Summary:
>Waaaah you need us whaaaa ;_; _;_;
We just healed us from cancer.
>>61224740
It was a rhetorical question.
The UK's exports are nearly non-existent, scotch alone comprises nearly 1/4 of all UK food and drinks exports. It also has a fair chunk of the UK's beef and dairy herd and the UK's fishing fleet. If (or maybe when) Scotland goes, it takes all this with it.
>>61221740
I've always been interested in british culture. While I'm sad bremainers lost I don't hate anyone
>>61225100
Good luck healing as the EU project comes crashing down around you.
We're only the beginning. You're already fucked as it is now we're going, but when the Netherlands follows suit it's all over.
>>61224961
I don't know what makes you say that, but even if that were the case, it key thing is that the banks already in Scotland would be far, far less likely to leave in the event of Indy.
>>61222769
>implying he wont die before the election
he is fucking 70 something
>>61221740
>Most stable country on the planet
>Just left the EU
>Currency plummeting
>Shares plummeting
>One nation is threatening to leave the UK and another says they're considering it
Very stable
>>61225213
Regardless. By the time Scotland gets round to holding a second indy ref (if they even do at all which is doubtful IMO), the EU won't exist in the way it does today.
The cracks have grown significantly overnight, and all it takes is the Netherlands and Denmark to vote leave and it will break.
>>61225184
The EU will be fine. It has taken a substantial hit but if anyone needs luck it's going to be the UK. That people are still cheering over leave winning with everything crashing down around them is mindboggling. So yeah, sincerely, good luck. You're going to need it.
>>61225184
>We are so very important and meaningful
>What we do affects you so much
No?
>>61225133
That means food prices in the UK will rise due to the devaluation.
>>61225066
>Scotland isn't a safe bet for anyone. Those same institutes would run to the continent immediately
You completely overestimate the negative effect Indy would have.
>>61221740
>that pic
Jesus Christ, I was the one who originally made it and posted it on /tv/ 3 years ago. How time flies.
Based Mark Antony
>>61225300
I think the next few weeks and months are going to be enlightening for those of you who think the way you do.
>>61225232
>Cultural Revolution
The fact that this is the most unstable time in our nation since the War is hilarious. This is literally a non-issue. Compare this to something like the strikes paralyzing France or the FARC conflict. This is only a big thing because it is Britain, the most dull and boringly dependable country in Europe after Germany.
>>61224072
Bullshit commie were pro nazi during half the war
>>61225281
I hope you have a plan B
>>61224914
But you still have Ireland in the union which you can use as a bit of a proxy. So you both appease Trump and can still participate behind the scenes so to speak.
>>61225066
The banks were leaving because Scotland's EU membership was in doubt. Now, if anything, independence would provide them with certainty.
>>61225232
I suppose that's why China bought 2000 ton gold safe in London.
>>61219038
>Don't worry guys we are the 5th biggest economy, everything will be fine
>>61225307
And Scotland would have a hungry new market.
>>61225370
>300 year union of England and Scotland is in danger
>literally a non-issue
What?
>>61225184
>this delusion
boy I would pay to see Magaluf this summer
>>61225294
>Said the noncountry Merkelbot.
Heil to you as well. \o
>>61225405
We're talking over overestimating, and I think you're heavily overestimating Scotland's prowess on the world stage.
They were leaving because Scotland as a nation of 5 million on the world stage is insignificant.
Regardless of EU membership or not, London was always a safer bet because they had the protection of the Bank of England for starters.
>>61224398
This French cunts right.
>>61225232
They are in damage control.
>>61225221
He's born in 1945. It's a good year
>>61225184
netherlands leaving would make even less sense
>>61225370
>UK won't exist in 2018
>literally a non-issue
>>61225369
Only thing that happens is that you are EFTA now.
You still will follow all our regulations still 80% of your trade is done in EU.
Only difference is that you don't have any say anymore about what happens to you.
This is realistic. You Self-entitled Chavbrain is not realistic.
You see?
>>61225488
You of all people can't afford to be spiteful. The Brits are pretty much keeping the last scraps of your economy alive.
>Direct Democracy was a mistake
>>61225370
Shit the denial is fucking real. British literally don't see how deep in shit they are that's crazy
>>61225281
That smacks entirely of wishful thinking desu.
>>61225558
shut up Nigel, we are already paying it back 1 cent a day aren't we?
>>61225558
HAHAHAH
fuck m8 I'm going to miss your sense of humour
>>61219554
kek
>>61225553
>80% of your trade is done in EU.
Oh dear. Try 49%
>>61225480
I don't think your domestic production is nearly enough to satisfy the demand. However, it would surely benefit the agicultural bussines, who btw. can't hire poles anymore so they would have to employ british citizens and pay decent wages.
>>61225690
>implying it's still not fucking half of your trade
>>61225673
At least there won't be as much rubbish when the Brits all leave eh?
Shame there won't be a country to return to, so who knows.
>>61225691
>pay decent wages.
Therefore not being competitive against the subsidized EU agro
>>61225691
>they would have to employ british citizens
You mean pakis rapists ?
>>61225281
If that was the case, and the EU crashed then the main reason for banks to leave Scotland, the lack of EU membership, would be irrelevant.
That also opens the possibility of Scotland, rather than being a bit player in the EU, could be a founding member in a North Eastern Atlantic Union with Eire, the Scandis and maybe even England.
>>61225307
The pound will stabalise and rise in the coming weeks. I wouldn't pay too much attention just yet.
The markets were poised for the wrong outcome because some dickhead forgot to mention it might actually happen. All you saw were jews selling off and making mad profits last night.
>Napoleon's Continental System has finally achieved its goal
Britain is Fucked.
>>61225743
Oh which we're a net importer, the EU's largest customer in fact.
Which all goes against the EU unless of course they'd rather tell their car industry, or wine and cheese industries to stop selling to us. I'm sure they would oblige.
It's not like the German car industry sells 800K cars per year in the UK (largest international market for them) or anything...
>>61219038
It will be fixed within months
>>61225434
Yes, because China would love to have the UK under it's thumb economically, as payback for the Opium wars as much as anything.
Finally we can have our French-German superstate.
So long US Trojan horse
>>61225691
literally russia logic
>is ok, we make everything ourselves nao
>>61225743
"Hmm, should I trade near or very far away..."
>Basic economics, maybe?
>>61225690
>defictit of £23.9bn this year
Noice.
>>61225797
Be careful. Sounds awfully like Salmond's Celtic tiger prophecy he'd rather forget he said.
>http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/11/sinn-fein-irish-reunification-vote-brexit-eu-referendum?CMP=share_btn_tw
>muh independence
>lose half your kingdom
Kek, this is like leaving your wife for a 25 y/o model who ends up being a gold-digging tranny
>>61225784
Well, all wages in the UK have been lowered with atleast 10% now, compared to yesterday.
>>61225894
you also get slav(e)s
I guess it's time to learn french
>>61225793
This isn't the time but kek
What have the 52% done
>>61225890
China most likely will go for the economic victory, in CIV terms. They have enough wealth to start some serious takeovers.
>>61225912
Which means you sell more to us than we do to you to the tune of £23.9bn.
You do realise that means it hurts you more than it does us if you put up barriers yes?
We can make up that deficit elsewhere in the world since we're free to do so, so who loses in that scenario?
Sure it may hurt here a little in the short term, but the EU industries will suffer far longer.
>>61225864
>being this arrogant
I hope the Union puts its boot on your fucking face and drives your country to the mud
>>61225744
I was thinking now about the half a million old as fuck expats you guys have here leeching our healthcare, not counting the literally thousands of chavs our healthcare save from alcohol poisoning every year on our dime, those guys are fucked right?
Boy what a time to be alive
>>61225864
It's not like you can keep up with your own demands because your industry is fucking shit.
You'll always need to import from us.
>>61225980
To be fair, I can envision a lot of Chinese money coming into the UK going forward.
>britain just barely won the battle of britain 2.0 against the 4th reich.
>the french are celebrating
fucking vichy french are at it again.
russia is gonna fuck 4th reich from the east. and murrica with trump in charge will ally with britain and take back europe.
its happening all over again, just economically this time
>>61225513
No, I think because Scotland would be far less significant on the world's stage that the banks would stay, because would need them far more then they need Scotland.
I mean the same is precisely true of the UK, even when it had EU membership. The UK would be literally nothing without the City.
>>61221740
>Why would they dislike us?
:^)
>>61221740
i wonder who help UK when The Witch was in power
>>61225982
What you don't understand is that the prices for goods, being either union's products or from other places will rise and you will lose money too. The poor will get hit the most as usual but guess what they voted for that the madmen
>>61225999
You do realise the NHS pays for all their healthcare needs?
If anything, they'll be free to leech after we leave.
>>61225995
They won't cut off their nose to spite their face.
>>61226021
>You'll always need to import from us.
Which is bad for you because you've allowed us to become your largest customer. We can go elsewhere if required, whereas you won't find that level of purchase elsewhere so quickly.
All you JFs were desperate to mock us for voting remain
Now you're a bit lost aren't you
Bless
>>61226021
>what is merrica
>what is brics.
the only reason europe has been importing from european countries is because of the EU tarrif wall
>>61222693
fucking topkek
>>61225982
We are already going to lose much of that superavit with your memecurrency going to shit so whatever. Besides this Trump tier logic that "we costumah we demand shit" it's not how it works, the private business are the ones who decide where to buy and they'll keep coming to the EU just paying tariffs
>>61226094
You're making assumptions upon which you have no evidence.
>>61225982
EU won't put up any barriers.
You will be the one who put them up otherwise we will drain you empty.
I just realized what this means for your economy.
You are kill.
>>61225691
Well, no because Scotland produces prestige goods rather than daily bread and butter: Scotch whisky, Aberdeen Angus beef, Scottish smoked salmon.
>>61226027
True, true.
>british imports from the EU: 19270 million
>british exports to the EU: 11073 million
>"They need us more than we need them!"
>>61226146
Said memecurrency will recover in the coming weeks, so then what?
But you said this....
>the private business are the ones who decide where to buy and they'll keep coming to the EU just paying tariffs
They do indeed decide where to buy, and they will go where the cheapest option is. Which means the EU with a tariff wall would price themselves out of the market....great strategy.
>>61226110
>>61226103
And you think you'll get a better deal now?
Now that your bargaining position is the weakest it has ever been?
>>61226158
Yeah that's not what every brit economist or from other nationality has been saying since the beginning. Every britain inhabitant is gonna lose money and inflation is gonna rise as soon as UK is gonna leave. Good luck
>>61222693
Everyone under 30 and over 70 shouldn't be able to vote.
>>61225955
Nie mam problemu z słowianskich ludzi. You're pretty cool people.
I don't know about Bulgaria but when I lived in Poland, it was pretty obvious the country benefited a lot from the EU.
The EU is not perfect, far from it but we achieve a lot together
>>61225691
No, but we're talking about an independent Scotland in the EU.
>>61226169
>The EU is the only place in the world you can trade with
This is where you fail in your analogy.
>>61226205
If you're talking from a UK perspective that's entirely true. The EU do need us more than we need them. We can sell our shit all over the place. The EU will lose their largest customer if they spite themselves.
The EU lose in that situation.
>>61226169
what the fuck are you even on about? the demand runs the market, not the supply.
you are the supply, britain is the demand. how the fuck do you "drain" out your demand, and why the fuck would you do it?
>>61226103
UK pays a small % of their healthcare ensurance in here, being out of the EU means they get no healthcare at all unless every family gets a private ensurance and hire a private clinic for them, either way it will cost you extra.
>>61225923
Bad example m8
>>61226205
That's the definition of they need us more than we need them
>>61226247
They also said we'd tank if we didn't join the Euro. Look how that went.
>>61226238
Nobody says we'll get a better deal. But if you honestly think you're industries would even let the bureaucrats put up barriers and tariffs to make things difficult, then you're living in a fantasy land.
Your own CBI said as much earlier this week.
>>61225919
I don't see the problem with the Celtic Tiger, other than in terms of publicity. Ireland's already bounced back way harder than the UK has.
>>61226224
>will recover in the coming weeks
After the Scots announce another referendum, this one with the option to stay not having a chance in hell you mean? Sure, it'll recover very much
>>61226323
Indeed. Although UK tourism as a whole from our perspective to the likes of Spain etc is falling.
We prefer our holidays further afield in the Caribbean and the USA these days so that cost isn't even a factor.
>>61226238
>And you think you'll get a better deal now?
well since brics and merrica are competing over customers. yes they will be better off.
there is more competition outside of the EU than inside, and that will mean better deals. unless you are exporting alot.
>>61226293
British money comes to us.
Our money doesn't go to UK.
He says that we would make trade blockades but I say that we won't.
The UK will make them.
You know they will not only block our peoducts but also investors will not go there anymore because i's very risky if a state allowes such a hand over the market.
So the trade has to stay open and we will sell shit there no matter if they are in the EU or not.
Is this more clear?
>>61226379
You forget it was the UK who bailed Ireland out (after the EU refused of course).
>>61226383
>After the Scots announce another referendum
You'd be lucky to see one announced before 2018.
>>61225864
They're gonna sell, but you guys are going to have to pay more.
The Germans are just salty because we've blown up their takeover of Europe for the third time in 100 years.
>>61226471
They could just pull an Iceland next time.
>>61226463
oh so you're saying that it wont get any worse for britain than what it is already in the EU.
well I agree, and I think thats what the bong is telling you too.
but dont be so sure that british money will come to you at the same rate anymore, since you will have to compete with the rest of the world at equal footing
>>61226539
And then we wouldn't buy in such large numbers, which hurts their industry. They simply would not allow that to happen, or are you not understanding this?
There are plenty of other car manufacturers around the world. It's pretty much a given the price of Japanese motors will come down in this country thanks to not having the EU stand in our way.
>>61226549
Actually, you just made Germany much stronger in the EU
>>61226370
The issue is that any deal would take years not only to get negotiated but also to get ratified.
Even if Germany arranges relatively good terms for Britain, which is unlikely given the public stance of the politicians there, many of the other EU countries like France are going to cockblock a British trade agreement that looks too generous. The Canada-EU trade agreement took seven years for negotiations and is still not in force.
Basically, Britain is facing a decade of trade uncertainty.
>>61226471
>You'd be lucky to see one announced before 2018.
You mean you'd expect to see a referendum before 2018, since the Scots would push for one before the two-year exit transition period is up.
>>61226027
Chinese will use this opportunity to buy a lot of the UK while it's weak. Then when it slowly returns to normal and part of Europe again, China will have a foothold in Europe much stronger than before.
>>61226645
>Germany is stronger in a failing union which is crumbling more rapidly than ever
Nice position you got there.
>>61226367
Not with the pound where it is. It will be a lot easier for the EU to export to the UK and a lot harder for the UK to import from Europe. It will be bad for both sides, but worse for Britain.
>>61226037
> Implying the krauts ever were the bad guys
> implying Trump will get elected
> implying your opinion is relevant
> mfw the shitstorm is about to hit the UK by its own doing
>>61226706
>crumbling
>this delusional
If there's any union that looks like it's crumbling it's yours
>>61226707
low pound means good exports for britain, but low imports. its the other way around
>>61226579
>since you will have to compete with the rest of the world at equal footing
>the mighty competing on euqual footing
kek
>>61226706
>a failing union which is crumbling more rapidly than ever
this is nowhere to be seen
>>61226603
>There are plenty of other car manufacturers around the world. It's pretty much a given the price of Japanese motors will come down in this country thanks to not having the EU stand in our way.
How does the EU stand in your way and how will the prices go down?
>>61226650
The politicians won't really be able to do much about trade with the UK. The industry rules the EU, and they will want to continue selling their goods here unhindered.
But why does everyone (even those in other parts of the world) forget that the EU isn't the only fucking place on the planet?
The EU want to spite us? Fine we'll buy more cars from Toyota and Honda in Japan.
France don't want to sell their wine to us? Okay sure we'll buy more from Australia.
I could go on.
The amount of delusion from the English in this thread is unbelievable. No wonder they voted for brexit, if this is represents British education.
>>61226742
old krauts did nothing wrong, but fucking merkel is literally hitler infused with liberals.
yesterday we said
>implying brits will vote brexit
you never know frog.
the fucking EUSSR are crumbling and im loving it
>>61226836
The EU have a 10% tariff on Japanese goods of which the consumer pays.
The UK would circumvent that and you bring the cost down by 10% immediately.
>>61226742
> Implying the krauts ever were the bad guys
This. Albion was always the true ennemy
>>61226797
They import everything though, a weak pound means automatically inflation, which means they are less competitive and eating away the effects of the currency drop. The Bank of England has always kept the sterling as strong as they could for that reason
>>61226706
The EU isn't crumbling. It only took some bad publicity due to the migrant crisis. A point your government made sure to blow up so they could convince the ignorant masses to vote leave. Their timing was impeccable.
Crumbling though? Definitely not. The UK is in a worse state of affairs so I suggest you stop believing your UK propaganda.
>>61226758
>>61226706
NO SURVIVORS
>>61226882
We shall see.
>>61226463
>British money comes to us.
>Our money doesn't go to UK.
Actually we sell double the amount than they buy from us.
If the trading with them stops we are the ones losing.
>>61226840
>buying aussie wine
don't do it brits are supposed to have taste
>>61226829
Of all people Italy, you should be feeling the effects more than most.
Let's see how you all feel after Greece receives even more bailout money.
>>61226816
>in EU.
>buy shit from the internal market, or pay shitloads of tarrifs if you buy from outside the wall
>outside of EU
>buy shit from the EU
>or buy shit from the brics/merrica without any tarrifs
thats how it works in a free market my german drone friend
>>61226238
You are thinking the wrong way. What you think is being bargained about isn't what is being bargained about.
>>61226758
#shotsfired
>>61226912
So you believe you will be paying no tariffs or additional costs when purchasing from Japan?
>>61226986
So they gonna full suicide by leaving their own economy compete with China/India wage level?
This won't happen.
>>61226929
yeah thats true, they loose out since they are so reliant on imports, but so do the EU since alot of those imports are from the EU
>>61226971
It's not Greece that bothers me but leech countries like Poland. Those and of course the EU's retarded immigration laws, if the whole unions crumbles down over boat people and "refugees" I'm gonna be legit pissed
>>61226929
A weak pound would be good if the UK were an export-driven economy. It's not. And its biggest industry, finance and insurance, is now scrambling to look for plan B. Expect quite a few financial companies to move from London to the mainland.
>>61227069
We'll leave that up to the folks who negotiate a deal with Japan on behalf of the UK.
>>61226963
It was an example. I'm not saying we'd actually do it.
>>61226935
>The EU isn't crumbling
>literal nazis popping out of the woodworks all over the continent
>ALL IS FINE NOTHING TO SEE HERE!
>>61227113
Well it depends who makes the jump next.
Netherlands are looking to vote. Possibly Denmark. Hell I even heard FN are pushing for one in France now also.
>>61227074
just like the dead economies of norway, the swiss, and iceland am i right?
competing with the chinks are fine, you just have to adapt and specialise
>>61227244
Your economy is protectionistic.
Switzerland is the only country that you can consider free. And they produce Luxuries mainly so of course nobody can compete there.
>>61227110
Yes but what could we do, right? This retarded country has decided to suicide bomb itself and the EU must react somehow. If they want to implement tariffs that's cool, but they'll keep buying from the EU and tariff would go straight to inflation, destroying their economy even further. Bottom line is they are fucked, they need to negotiate a lot of bilateral agreements with the EU to keep things as they are and in all those deals they have the weakest position. I said in another thread but I'll repeat, I wouldn''t be surprised if Merkel makes them accept refugees as a slap in the face, it wouldn't surprise me at all
>>61220120
>like the finacial transaction tax
Fuck off with that shit you dumb kraut
>>61225995
what the fug are you doing here
I-im surprised there are frenchies in singapore that browse /int/
>>61227144
>We'll leave that up to the folks who negotiate a deal with Japan on behalf of the UK.
Yeah good luck with that.
>>61227370
>Merkel makes them accept refugees as a slap in the face, it wouldn't surprise me at all
Holy shit I'm so erect right now
>>61227525
What makes you think ill of that? The EU put those tariffs up, not Japan.
>>61227476
I don't browse /int/ usually but today is special right ?
>>61227370
Then no deal would be done, simple as. We'll trade with the rest of the world and the Germans will be forced to produce 800,000 less cars per year.
>>61227533
"you shall pay in refugees" - t.merkel
>>61227659
A-are you a qt trap
but yes today is a special day, what brings you here to singapore?
>>61227370
Sure if Merkel wants to lose $96bn in exports. I'm sure she could sell that to the electorate.
>>61227677
>>61227525
you dont need a fucking deal to trade with japan. the tarrifs are the EU wall, outside the EU, trade is mostly free and dont need any fucking deals
>>61227753
Which is what I was trying to get at.
I'll happily buy a Honda over a VW any day of the week.
>>61227677
Boy you delusional lads are in for a ride lmao
>>61227677
>>61227753
meant to quote >>61227596
>>61227750
I'm not a qt trap [spoiler]unfortunately[/spoiler] and I came here to do an internship. Nice city btw
>>61227799
seriously everyone that has said NO to the EU has it better than those that said yes. that should be enough leave that fucking shit union
>>61226840
>The politicians won't really be able to do much about trade with the UK
But they will? As in, any trade deal needs to be ratified by the European Parliament. This is the part that will take the most time, more than the negotiation process, and politics will be the supreme consideration here.
The EU counts more than anything else because it makes up half of British trade on a very favorable basis compared to whatever Japanese cars and Australian wines that may be imported now. Simple import substitution isn't going to make up for a trade setback of this magnitude, though the weaker pound will lower absolute import volumes.
>>61227677
>produce 800,000 less cars per year.
No, what will actually happen is that the Germans will produce 300,000 less cars, and Brits will pay more for the remaining 500,000.
>>61227799
You may think so and that's alright. Sure there will be a short term hit, nobody ever really denied that.
But ultimately the governments of their respective countries will have to explain the electorate why they now have a £10bn shortfall, or in the case of Germany...to the tune of 4-5 times that, all of a sudden.
>>61227872
Sure, but we have a less favourable deal with Japan & Australia BECAUSE of the EU.
Leaving removes those barriers.
I know the EU thinks they hold all the cards, but they don't. We are free to go elsewhere from now on and they know that.
>>61227872
>No, what will actually happen is that the Germans will produce 300,000 less cars, and Brits will pay more for the remaining 500,000.
There will still be purchases yes, but swap the numbers and I think you're closer to the mark.
But are you suggesting the German car manufacturers would accept 300K-500K reduction in sales per annum?
What's up with all these delusional brexiters talking about Danish and Dutch referendums?
There is no way in hell that ever happens, unless Germany or France decide to leave first.
Denmark will never have a referendum and even if we had one, it would be a comfortable remain vote.
The EU is very popular here, as long as the plebs get to keep their precious Danish coins instead of the Euro.
>>61228029
You might want to check your latest polling data mate.
>>61227872
this
>>61227899
They'll explain it by saying brits are fucking retarded and we all will understand it. You leave a free trade based union, your trade is going to be fucked,, no need to be a genius to notice that
>>61227998
You will rather buy Indian Tata cars in the future or end up without being able to afford a car?
We are fine, 300k less we will find a solution.
But what's with you? It's already quite expensive to live in UK. And now it's not going to be better.
>>61228082
I did earlier today and it said 54% are in favour of staying while 30% want to leave. Seems extremely comfortable to me.
this thread gave me the impression like angry women voted to damage the EU no matter how much damage they take themself.
I wonder if such an emotional decision can have something good.
>>61227952
>BECAUSE of the EU.
No, the EU's larger economic size gives you more leverage in trade deals with non-EU entities. In addition, trade deals are political poison right now in most of the developed world, so it will take a longer time than in the past to get those deals.
>>61227998
>But are you suggesting the German car manufacturers would accept 300K-500K reduction in sales per annum?
Yes, because the German government can easily justify it as "it was Britain's fault." Giving Britain a new deal that is as good as an actual EU member without freedom of movement will be a complete political non-starter, and adding freedom of movement will cause Brexit supporters in the UK to oppose such a deal even if it hurts economically. Because after all, that is what happened just now.
>>61228133
No we'll buy from Japan, you know home of one of the world's largest car manufacturers.
>>61228209
Yes. The EU in the case of Japan has put up a 10% tariff.
>Yes, because the German government can easily justify it as "it was Britain's fault."
Yes okay and I'm sure the likes of VW and BMW would just go with that.
Back to reality, they will force the hand of the German government who in turn would force the hand of the EU.
>>61228209
but you dont need to make trade deals anon. they only exist because of tarrifs and import/export regulations. outside of EU there are much less of those and you dont need trade deals for every little fucking thing
>>61228186
That's exactly what it looks like to me.
Cunts on 4chan talking about how this will 'show the big banks/globalists/leftists' too.
You would have thought people would approach a decision like this with a serious amount of rationality.
>>61228440
reminder that keyboard warriors are retarded no matter their said, tl;dr /pol/tards are tumblrinas
>>61228440
Demagogy is the cancer of democracy. Shit like this is too important to let the people decide, unfortunately
>>61228223
http://atlas.media.mit.edu/en/profile/country/gbr/#Origins
Sorry, but the 1.6% of imports that Japan represents isn't going to come close to the 15% that Germany does.
>>61228288
>who in turn would force the hand of the EU.
Do you really think France and Spain are going to ratify a sweetheart trade deal anytime in the next decade regardless of German influence? They are going to try really hard to dissuade separatist political factions, and they are going to do that by punting on a British trade deal as much as they can.
Look at CETA, it isn't even ratified and a relationship with Canada has none of these additional headwinds we're talking about.
>>61228322
>outside of EU there are much less of those
I hope you're not serious right now. You ever look at India and Brazil's protectionism?
The standard WTO trade relationship, which is what Britain will default to in the absence of deals, has far less generous terms than the EU Common Market.
>>61228563
This is 100% true
>>61228223
Japan has very little investments in the UK, while Germany (the people I mean) for example has thousands of millions in share in UK bonds and UK based company shares and it's also true the other way around. British banks finance the same companies that produce the cars AND the ones that import them and sell them to you cucks. The UK economy is HUGELY interconnected with the EU's, the substitution of EU imports with Asian ones is not as easy as you imagine, as a matter of fact it simply won't happen. If you guys have tariffs, your economy is fucked, and if you don't, the deficit remains as much as your currency desintegrating allows it. That's how it works.
Now, about security, tax, transport, defense and the other million bilateral agreements (not counting trade), you guys are going to eat shit and maybe take some Syrian boys with you if Frau Merkel feels that way because you can't have those deals with anyone else and you will be on your knees while negotiating. You guys shot yourselves in the feet with this shit and I'm sorry, I really am
>>61228440
There was no rationality behind any of this. The leave campaign played on the emotions of the people, mostly the working class (along with racists), and it worked. The working class will be feeling this the hardest too. It boggles the mind.
>>61228209
>top 5 economy needs additional leverage
maybe pooland or lelgium needs this not britain
>>61227069
maybe you've heard of the WTO
>>61228825
You mean top 6 now :^)
>>61228825
>top 5
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