>Letting LITERAL DUMB ASSES destroy A WHOLE CONTINENT
fucking kek england
>>61203768
lad we are stronger without them
they're also guilty for your crisis?
Intelligent people are more susceptible to propaganda.
t. Chomsky
how does your whole continent get destroyed when one, not even the biggest, of 27 nations leaves?
>>61203768
kek
KEK
K E K
Democracy, everyone
>>61203768
that's discrimination man
stop it
>>61203910
domino effect
france is the next one
>lefty students doing gender studies are remain
>>61203901
On that topic Noam, remind us how Cambodia turned out?
>>61203768
You mean Merkel ?
>>61203768
s-source?
>>61203768
If Scotland voted Remain, does that mean Scots are the smartest people in the UK?
>>61204012
our government is already forcing laws through the National Assembly and restricting protests, no way they will authorise a referendum for Fraxit
>>61204067
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng-interactive/2016/jun/23/eu-referendum-live-results-and-analysis
also, how surprising the number of immigrants that voted remain
MUZZIES BTFO, LEFTIES BTFO. FREXIT WHEN?
>>61204039
Merkel is not a dumbass though, she's just plain evil
like Cristina and Hillary
>>61203768
Those graphs came out pretty fast uh.
>>61204257
elect M A R I N E
>>61204393
>implying
She's like the others and will not have shit done
>Higher education = intelligence
I go to a uni full of people who will have voted remain and they are mainly brain dead retards who killed the few brain cells they had through frequent use of hard drugs. Thank you, good night.
>>61204442
doesn't she want to leave the eu?
she dislikes a shitton of european laws, it's eassier to leave now that we're in a kind of collapse moment
>>61204484
I mean, I don't want to be an elitist douchebag, but the average guy on a college campus is more intelligent than your average construction worker/line cook drinking beer on the bus on their way home from work
>>61204484
t. McDonalds employee
Good. Intellectuals have rationalized driving the western world into the ground for too long. They're getting what they deserve.
>>61205219
Intelligence is almost totally unrelated to education. Book smarts is not intelligence. Some of the dumbest people I know have a Master's Degree. Coincidentally, they've never done an honest day's work in their life.
I too remember when the left stood for the working class and not against it
>>61203768
>21% unemployment
How's the EU working out for you?
Also, your country sounds like the one preparing to chimp out and ruin everything by threatening to take Gibraltar.
>>61204492
yet being eurodeputy is what pays her
>>61207209
t.landscaper
>>61203768
>HOW DARE YOU LET THE PEOPLE VOICE THEIR OPINION?!?!?
t.Eurocuck
>>61207209
t. graduate of the school of hard knocks
Leftists: I'm pro democracy until I don't like the result
>>61204024
noam "leninism is evil please vote democrat to achive anarchism" chompsky
Chomsky merely maintains that Cambodia was unfairly focused on while similar atrocities were going on in Timor‐Leste at the same time, but not at the hands of nominal communists.
>>61207371
I'm an engineer but ok.
Intelligent people are almost always educated but intelligence is pretty inherent. You're either smart or you're not, learning a lot can make you smarter but Einstein was born smart. Fuckers who get a master's degree in women's studies aren't smart. I'd argue they're actually really dumb.
>>61207406
>>61207371
>t. Last Week Tonight viewers
>>61207209
>crying about an honest day's work shit
People not having to work shitty blue collar jobs and being educated is literally what separates the 1st world and the 3rd world. Unskilled labor doesn't change much from England to Somalia. Quality of life does, but that's the doing of the educated people.
>>61207209
t. real niggas work the streets
>>61207459
/thread
Either go full elitist "Voters need to pass an IQ test and hold a degree from a respectable university", or shut the fuck up about how "democracy has failed because people voted wrong"
>>61207209
>Intelligence is almost totally unrelated to education
That's obviously nonsense. Even if you take the view that intelligence is innate and education doesn't CAUSE intelligence, you still have to be smarter to make your way through university. University might be just a way of sorting people by intelligence, but someone with a PhD is still going to be a lot smarter on average than someone who didn't finish high school.
>>61203910
How does a building fall over if you take out one of the supports?
>>61207496
>current year
>being a resident of poo peeland
>>61207495
>engineer
Uh huh. That's what an angry landscaper would say his job was just to sound smart.
>never worked a day in their lives
>education is job training attitude
>>61207495
Do you understand that: ''intelligence is inherent'', and ''people who hold high levels of educational attainment are on average more intelligent than those who don't'' aren't mutually exclusive statements?
>>61207569
Depends really on what they go for.
Learning a bunch of bullshit for 8 years is what I'd call a total waste of time and money. Learning astrophysics or nuclear engineering or brain surgery is a pretty good way to spend 8 years though.
I lost all faith in "the educated people will fix it!" meme when Ivy League grads and the philosophy that those on Wall Street were so smart they could easily regulate themselves...resulted in the 2008 Financial Crisis
>>61207459
Well, no, see the left and right wings have no direct bearing on democracy. As a rule, democracy is associated with centrism and its off-centre neighbours. You can have right wing governments that oppose democracy just like how you can have left wing governments that oppose democracy.
>>61207731
Well just because you're smart and well educated doesn't mean you're good at making decisions. Political dogma can very much get in the way of practicality and knowledge and lead to fucking up everything long term for a short term goal.
>>61207764
Yes, but in Western democracies the trend has been towards liberal politics for the last 40 years so it's more prominent in the discussion
>>61207695
Nope, I guarantee you that if you took a group of University graduates in any subject, and compared them to a random group that didn't attend University; the Uni grads would be smarter. IQ test them. The engineering grads would probably have higher average IQs than the sociology grads, but the non-University group would be lower than both
>>61207819
>Well just because you're smart and well educated doesn't mean you're good at making decisions.
Again, /thread
>>61207731
That was an issue of people thinking intelligence and education somehow included morality. They were brilliant, really.
>cause huge financial collapse
>pretty much none of them get in trouble
>get millions from the government because they made their institutions too big to fail
>still get their Christmas bonuses and vacations
This is like the basic concept of democracy, the poor uneducated people who were not benefiting from europe voted to go out, not because they were dumb and got tricked.
You can frame it however you want though.
>>61207695
kek
>going to school is just job training
>thinking people who approached education as job training ever advanced their fields or did anything truly great
>>61207907
>That was an issue of people thinking intelligence and education somehow included morality.
The point remains that most of the justification for deregulation of the American finance industry came from the meme that all those Ivy League grads and quants flocking to finance meant that there was little need for any oversight or regulation because "Dude, everyone involved is just such a fucking a whiz kid that there won't be any problems brah"
Good now they can do what they've always wanted: replace their poles with pakis
>>61204020
most people are in the middle
>>61207471
Noam "Pinochet is another Hitler but Pol Pot dindu nuffin" Chumpsky
>>61203768
These threads would be a lot more relatable if they weren't started by countries that receive tens of billions of euros in aid money from the EU
>>61208030
>majority of economists are conservative
>majority of wall street advisors were liberals
>economy fucks up
Whadaya meeeean they were wrong?
>>61208065
Gnome "Khmer Rouge? I hardly knew her!" Nomsky
>>61207920
Also
>implying all those lefty liberal arts majors who are always involved in fucking everything up (a good portion of them women) are "educated" vs indoctrinated.
higher education and intelligence are not correlated
if you don't believe me, go take a step inside any western liberal arts university
>>61207907
>That was an issue of people thinking intelligence and education somehow included morality. They were brilliant, really.
It's not uprising when a great deal of academics view the destruction of western society as the greatest moral aim.
>>61203901
Bullshit
Source it
>>61207495
>Glorified technician calling other people dumb
>>61208416
Feminism.
>the more educated a woman becomes, the more stupid her beliefs become
Not to just sound like a complete and total misogynist but almost all the females I know that went to college came back with some batshit crazy ideas about how the world should go.
I met a girl at 18 who was a little kinky but ultimately grounded and conservative. 3 years later she was in an open relationship, fucking people for food, and using xe xer pronouns, cut off her hair and dyed the rest of it.
>>61208333
Kek, I love it when people try to rationalize the fact that people who are informed about issues tend to be liberal and people who are uninformed tend to be conservative.
>>61208333
>We are told that...
>But this is nonsense
Well argued, Mr Powell
>>61208030
It wasn't that at all you seething fucking pseudo-intellectual.
Neoliberalism was used by the banks because they knew the government would still bail them out regardless because of the value they provided.
They knew what would happen, they just didn't give a fuck.
Stick to tradie school you inbred pleb bogan.
>KEEP ALL THE MIGRRANTS OUT MUH MUH SOVEREIGNTY
>literally keep all the "shitskins" you hate and kick out all the EU citizens who do all the "dirty work" in the UK
>>61208675
>came back with some batshit crazy ideas about how the world should go
While this does happen in the first or second year of college, I feel like they eventually settle down and think less fervently and with more critical thought. It's better than the average person who wasn't exposed to a wider array of academic ideas.
>>61208867
Maybe, but I pretty much lost my friend entirely. She used to be a progun country girl and now she's just a trashy slut with a bad haircut that wants to vote Bernie.
>>61208333
Oh boy, is this a 'Steve Jobs dropped out of uni so uni dropouts are smarter than graduates' episode?
>>61208841
This is what I don't get. They complain about 'muh Muzzies/Pakis/Curry' invading Britain and yet they are non-EU immigrants. The ones that get fucked are the Poles/Eastern Europeans. Well regardless England is either going to become more brown or more inbred.
>>61207495
don't listen to those other cunts.
I'm an electrical engineering student, people in my program are dumb as shit when it comes to things that matter outside school. Being in higher education is so easy to achieve as well, makes me worried about future voters
>>61208717
I don't understand the anti-intellectualism that is running rampant these days.
>>61208935
>implying Bernie isn't based
Nobody else is going to take on international plutocracy Anon.
>>61209018
It's literally just mad /pol/ fags and their ilk raging about how reality doesn't fit their narrative.
>>61209041
Bernie is a fucking faggot lame duck politician with disastrous ideas for how the world works. A literal posterboy for the silver spoon rich kid living in a bubble.
>>61208976
What you do not see is that people outside are dumber even
>>61209091
>r-r-reality doesn't fit their narrative!
>now why am I $300,000 in debt for a sociology degree?!
>>61209045
>Intended college majors
We're talking about graduates here. If you don't see the difference between ''attending college'' and ''graduating college'' then I can't help you.
>>61209045
But aren't IQ tests designed specifically to test things pertaining to math and science? Numerical proficiency, spatial awareness, etc. Doesn't say anything about skills of critical analysis.
>>61209045
>graph starts at 100
>not labeled
intentionally dishonest
>>61209045
>Philosophy
I thought you said that liberal arts majors were stupid.
>>61203768
Having a higher education implies that you're a relatively wealthy upper middle class citizen who is barely affected by EU labor and trade laws at all. Not having one implies that you're a manual laborer who actually has his ability to make a living impeded by EU policies.
>>61209112
M8 you know most of his ideas are already implemented elsewhere? The people who call him radical are literally living in such an American bubble it's not even funny.
>>61209112
Oh please like Trump and Hillary are any better (Not-voting master race)
>>61209045
>unlabeled x axis
???????????????
>>61209192
this
it's like the spoiled rich fucks who vote for bernie and ask why poor people are voting for trump
>>61209045
>>61209144
Also, even if we go by the 'intended major' graph, the lowest major is still above 100 which is above average
>>61209208
At least Trump doesn't want to ban weapons.
>>61209119
Job markets and understanding issues don't really have much to do with each other Anon. Also the whole unemployed arts grad is kind of a myth.
>>61208965
If people were informed and not affected by cheap populism, we wouldn't have today's results.
Now watch the end of UK as we know it, only because some twats said "why not".
>>61209192
leaving the EU will destroy manufacturing jobs and take away funding from working class british towns that were built up by EU money tho. it will literally do nothing for manual laborers to leave
Wow, it's almost as if the EU was screwing over the low skilled workers that don't have access to white collar jobs, so continually lost their blue collar jobs to the migrants being shoved up their ass, along with the shit treatment from the EU...
really makes you think huh...
>>61209208
>(Not-voting master race)
>>61208333
When you consider the current system, it certainly is. Anyone intelligent is ushered into institutions of higher education.
That doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of contemporary humanities and social sciences (including economics) are mental poison.
>>61209119
>$300,000
So they have a masters or higher from Harvard? I'm sure the unemployment rate isn't too high for that cohort.
>>61207988
This desu
>>61207516
kek
>>61203768
Britbongs fucked that one hard, especially Cameroon. You don't give such important questions to the general population, it's stupid.
80 years old former coal miners deciding the fate of your country, kek.
>>61209284
>Also the whole unemployed arts grad is kind of a myth.
how much do they pay you to post here?
>>61208717
>who are informed about issues tend to be liberal
Anti GMO,pro nuclear shutdown,fiscally liberal policies or anti fracking are so inteligent...
Daily reminder that conservatives are the only ones pulling economic miracles like Singapure,S.Korea or Chile,while liberals crash their countries with no survivors like Venezuela or Argentina
>>61209320
The fishing industry disagrees
>>61209333
>Le alt-right straw man maymays
>>61209405
this
bernie sanders literally wants to immediately shut down all US nuclear plants
>>61209333
OH FUCK!! A strawman! What should I ever do?!?!?
>>61207209
Mexican strawberry pickers confirmed to be smarter than the entirety of Silicon Valley
>>61209418
but that's literally what abstaining means. either that or you think you're too stupid to make the right decision even 50% of the time.
>>61208782
Look into the remarks that Greenspan and other vaunted "financial experts" made in the '90s and '00s you wannabe-intellectual fuckwit
>Neoliberalism was used by the banks because they knew the government would still bail them out regardless because of the value they provided.
The fuck are you on about? The banks were bailed out because they - and their supporter's, whose dicks Obama was sucking - insisted that it was one of those unforeseeable events that no-one could have ever predicted, therefore it was unfair to punish anyone for the housing bubble
>>61203901
Unintelligent people are more susceptible to associating anything they don't agree with as propaganda.
Two can play this game.
>>61209405
americans were the ones who crashed latam with no survivors wtf
especially argentina, training and arming the people who would replace argentina's democratically-elected president with a fascist dictator in a violent coup.
>>61209426
I am lib but even that is so stupid, especially since I am pro-environment and Nuclear Energy is infinitely better than coal. What's the harm other than thyroid problems for some people and the threat of Snackbars flying a plane into one
>>61209119
>all higher education is useless because a few degrees deal with subject that trigger /pol/acks
weeew lad
funny thing is that sociology major will probably be making $60k (well above average) working in public services and at the same time will be more educated about all subjects than your average wikipedia educated alt-right neet
better strawman would be art degrees but do to the high demand for creative work in the states even those are not as bad as people make them out to be
blame your idiotic education financing system that forces even those who you deem as studying worthy degrees into debtslaves :^)
>>61209192
Good insight
>>61209380
You think having a degree makes you somehow more likely to be unemployed than not having one? What's the mechanism?
>>61209405
>Chile
>>61209207
>M8 you know most of his ideas are already implemented elsewhere?
Which one? His retarded stance of fracking that would crash the US economy? Bigger fiscal pressure that has lead the EU to a net growth 4 times smaller than America? His renewable policies that have failed all around europe?
>But muh free shit
Bernie would have crashed the economy with his low IQ
>>61209483
>right decision
or maybe they just don't like either choice lol
>>61209506
>funny thing is that sociology major will probably be making $60k (well above average) working in public services and at the same time will be more educated about all subjects than your average wikipedia educated alt-right neet
Perhaps, but their primary skill they've developed by pursuing such an education is harming their countrymen. Not matter what they contribute, they will inevitably cause more harm.
>>61204024
>noam chomsky supports the khmer rouge xD
This mean is worse than "Trudeau is a Muslim"
>>61209483
Or you know that, mathematically, a single vote doesn't sway an election so voting and not voting is practically the same thing. Or you genuinely dislike all the candidates and realise that not-voting is still ''expressing an opinion''. Or many other reasons not included in your maymay.
>>61203768
> implying the continent wasn't destroyed in the 18th and 19th centuries by jewish bankers
stupid shit skin
>>61209542
https://cew.georgetown.edu/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Unemployment.Final_.update1.pdf
it's actually a fact, art degrees have terrible employment rates, liberal arts is often higher than the average unemployment rate.
>>61209320
The EU is destroying manufacturing jobs,not the other way around. Just take a look at the share of industry of Spain and France before and after the EU. While countries like Switzerland still keep a strong manufacturing sector outside of the EU.
>>61209501
The U.S. trained those people 10 years before Peron was even elected though. The CIA supported whoever came out as long as they weren't friendly with the soviets
>>61203768
It doesn't matter.
Smart or not, in the end everybody voted with muh feels.
More educated people tend to be younger and liberal and go muh muslim, muh refugees, muh lgbqtbbq
While less educated people tend to be older and more conservative and go muh freedom, muh jobs, muh fuck faggots
The later felt harder.
>>61209207
Like where? Greece, Spain and Brazil?
>>61209609
I'm talking public post secondary education and healthcare for one. Also as for fracking it's contaminating water supplies and causing earthquakes, not to mention the who climate change thing, so yeah I'd say staying away from it is a good idea.
>B-but muh economy!
You know what's bad for the economy? Droughts, wildfires, and hurricanes.
>>61209208
Holy shit. He might actually win unless the immediate effects of Brexit tanks the UK
>>61209730
Germany, Sweden, Finland. The guy is a run of the mill social democrat by Euro standards.
>>61209714
What did Brexit have to do with Islam or gays?
>>61209230
Literally the opposite from my experience.
>>61209501
>americans were the ones who crashed latam with no survivors wtf
No. Only populist retards think this way. Latam fucked itself voting retards like Allende or supporting people like Castro,which crashed their countries.
Perón destroyed Argentina forever. All the leaders after him,followed his dumb policies.
>>61209695
Yep, all because of EU. There are absolutely no other reasons.
>WORKING CLASS PEOPLE ARE STUPID AND SHOULDN'T BE ALLOWED TO VOTE!
>I'M A SOCIALIST BTW
Really makes you think...
>>61209808
Because leftist said so.
>>61209611
you have to think both are perfectly equally shitty or else you'd still prefer one slightly less terrible flavor of shit
>>61209666
a single vote has actually decided an american election, though. and not voting doesn't just mean not voting, it usually also means refusing to take part in the conversation which also determines how your peers may vote (and a lot of abstainers work to convince other people that abstaining is the 'best' option). especially in the global information age individuals each hold an unprecedented amount of power.
>>61209646
So studying human social behaviour is "harming your countrymen"? Sounds like you're just buttmad that people who's job it is to understand these issues will tell you how retarded you are.
>>61209405
A planned economy was needed to industrialize Korea
>>61209808
Islams voted for brexit. Less white immigrants, more muslim immigrants will now result.
>>61209847
Are you a burger doing a semester abroad or something?
Only a burger would be ignorant of their own meddling in other countries affairs.
>>61209333
What if the candidates I liked most are out of the race? Should I just choose one for giggles?
>>61209847
>allende
>retard
>>61209901
>GDP is a good measure of economic development
Wew lad.
>>61209969
because comunism is so much better eh
>the amount of shilling on 4chan right now
What the fuck is going on?
>>61209930
>Islams voted for brexit. Less white immigrants, more muslim immigrants will now result.
Everyone keeps saying this with literally nothing to back it up, how will this cause MORE muslim immigration?
>>61209994
Allende had some weird shit going on though
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cybersyn
>>61204020
>everyone that disagrees with me is a stupid dumb poopyhead INEXPERIENCED teenager that does gender studies ecks dee
kill yourself, faggot
>>61210013
Never said that, but having America constantly undermine the political stability of the continent and prop up brutal and corrupt regimes certainly didn't help anybody.
>>61210032
Why would anyone shill after the election is finished?
>>61209758
>I'm talking public post secondary education and healthcare for one.
Which would force the country to increase its fiscal pressure that has worked wonders in the EU.
> Also as for fracking it's contaminating water supplies and causing earthquakes, not to mention the who climate change thing,
You are ignorant as fuck
1)The EPA showed in the last report that the water claims were bullshit.
2) Fracking has reduced CO2 emissions more than wind and solar combined,due the transition from coal to gas.
You were seripusly calling anyone else anti-intelectual? Because you pretty much no nothing about what you are talking about
>>61203768
>liberal studies, sociology and shit careers
>higher education
It is just a more sofisticated and more expensive brainwash/propaganda center
>>61210071
You do knmow that the army acted in most of those countries to prevent comunism you left wing retard
>>61209879
I'm a socialist because I hate the poor and want to abolish social hierarchy to get rid of them
>>61210032
I know, right? Before it was
"UK won't Brexit because they're cucks."
Now it's:
"HAHAHA THEY LEFT, WHAT KEKS."
>>61210042
Because like it or not immigrants are an important part of Britain's economy. Now that Poles and the like will have a harder time immigrating, the UK will have to take more immigrants from elsewhere to pick up the slack.
>>61209986
the most logical choice would be the candidate you like the most (or hate the least, they both mean the same thing) from the only two with reasonable odds of winning
>>61207459
Rightists: Freedom of speech is great but if they disagree with me they are LITERAL SJW OPPRESSORS
>>61203768
>my constituency voted 70% for remain
fucking kill me, why do I have to share a country with so many mongoloids
>>61210074
You tell me
>>61209873
The EU imposed some regulations that made local manufacturing plain unprofitable,and fomented delocalization. So pretty much the EU fucked up the economy.
>>61210114
Prevent communism and put in place authoritarian police states that allowed American companies you rape your countries sure.
>>61209900
But that isn't what they do. They serve the purpose advancing leftist polices (liberal ones in the case of economics) and how to manipulate human behavior to better do so.
It's gotten so bad that anyone who's so much as read a line of Foucault needs to be removed from the academic world.
>>61210042
More proportionally. Britain gets immigration from its former empire and from poor EU countries. Soon it will only get the former.
>>61210134
Look at the stats, the brexit group are objectively the mongoloids
>>61210177
That made Brazil grow at a miracle rate sure
>>61210177
>literal leaf communist
>>61210114
Or
>>61210120
Who says they have to be Muslims, though? They could (and probably would) be from the Commonwealth, they could still be from the EU, they could be fucking Asians for christ's sakes. Why Muslims in particular? And how would this be MORE Muslims than they're currently forced to take, especially the ones that are unskilled and so would not be normally taken anyway?
>>61210114
Or just the shadow of communism, aka "being left-wing".
And because a fascist dictatorship is so much better than communism, right?
>>61209994
>Mr. Bob Mugabe is the only one that can increase inflation faster than me
>Not a retard
>>61210184
Nothing wrong with Foucault my man
>>61210120
Not if the working class becomes more independent and brings in more wealth, which is a possibility without the EU.
>>61210199
Sorry, I wasn't clear. I voted remain.
>>61210199
I guess the norwegian people are mongoloids too
>>61210232
I'd rather live in Chile than Cuba friend
>>61203768
Ah yes, the statistics that predicted a bremain vote. I think we can safely say that these results are invalid.
>>61209969
>Graphic unironically defends Manuel Noriega
I'm not the biggest fan of US foreign policy myself but Jesus Christ
>>61210011
It is whe every indicator like HDI or university enrollment has increased a lot. Chile is a net recipient of inmigrants at this moment,and there is a reason for this.
>>61210013
In Latin America it often is. Compare Cuba to the Dominican Republic to see how liberal capitalism isn't always better.
The problem with socialism is that it's easier for things to go wrong if unskilled people have positions of power. Look at Venezuela, where the major strides of the Chavez regime were rendered moot by the greed of power-hungry incompetents.
Post the entire thing, it's funnier
Lower class, uneducated retards just destroyed their country because they hate pakis hahahahaha
>>61210284
Would you have at the time, though? My Spanish teacher's father was rounded up and brutally tortured at the time, some of their friends vanished without a trace, her family escaped to Canada when the latter was taking refugees. It's not fun and games.
>brits unironically voted in favour of commonwealth(paki and african mainly) immigrants over qt slavs
>>61209926
And? It was a conservative goverment. Protectionism has always been a conservative policy. There is conservatism outside of the GOP
>>61210100
M8 fracking extracts fossil fuels which fuel climate change.
>fracking cuts co2
Shale gas produces less co2 than other sources, but they are also fracking for oil.
>>61210042
Alright kiddo, I'll explain how immigration works in the 21st century to you.
>Corporate lobbyists want cheap labour.
>Now who's prepared to do shit jobs for minimum pay in a strong economy?
>Immigrants!
>So where do these immigrants come from?
>Well Europe, being closest and easiest place to get them from.
>Now the UK has left the union they need another easy source of cheap labour from countries where they can easily get immigrants into the UK from.
>Ex-Commonwealth countries like Nigeria, India and Pakistan already have thousands of immigrants in the UK and even more can be brought in easily thanks to family immigration right laws.
>More jobs for third world immigrants, more incentive for them to come.
K?
>>61203768
>using the x-axis to be representative of a binary choice
shit tier pleb
>>61210042
http://edition.cnn.com/2016/06/11/europe/brexit-britain-eu-referendum-curry/
>>61210349
If you were a socialist sure, but at that time everybody said how there was less crime and people werent retarded
>>61210321
>he believed Cuban propaganda
>>61207209
t. graduated from school of life and works in construction
>>61209119
This post is a perfect example of what he's talking about, though.
>$300,000
>one degree
>>61210050
He made some major blunders, but compared to fucking Pinochet? lol
The truly intelligent and properly educated people in the UK are from families that have been around for centuries. Those people choose to leave the EU because they want to see Britannia return to her former glory and know that remaining part of a cancerous union designed to destroy the great nations of Europe can offer nothing good.
The children who were raised by liberal teachers and media are the ones choosing to remain because they believe nationalism is the root of all evil.
Anyone against brexit and for the continued homogonization of vastly different cultures is a fool. End of story. No arguments.
>>61208717
That image has to be my favorite straw man may may.
>>61209405
>Daily reminder that conservatives are the only ones pulling economic miracles like Singapure,S.Korea or Chile
This is technically true but our conservatives are very different from conservatives in the west.
If they were in America they'd be labelled as 'liberals'.
>>61210376
The points further to the right have a higher portion of leave voters and vice versa, dumbass
>>61210340
>not born in the UK
>>61210367
The US CO2 emissions have been reduced,something that solar and wind havent achieve. Only hydraulic and nuclear energy have reduced proportionally more CO2 emissions than fracking.
>>61210368
>all immigrants are unskilled immigrants
Nice meme.
Also, the UK didn't suddenly blast off into fucking space or end up in the middle of the arctic ocean, Europe is still the closest place to get them.
>India is a Muslim country
10/10.
>>61209208
>heh, good joke
>it's not a joke
https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
>>61210308
M8 all of Latin America has taken off like that. Hell Venezuela was doing great until recently, and they still have a higher HDI than Columbia.
>>61210518
India literally has more muslims than any country on Earth
>>61210402
that leaf responding makes me sad for my country
Thank you mono for putting him in his place
>>61207404
maybe try not having inbred people next time
>>61210480
>they'd be labelled as 'liberals'.
No. They are more paleocons than anything else. American liberals are far in the left comapred to any Korean party. Correct if I am wrong,but the conservative parties there are mostly anti regulations,fiscal conservative and kond of interventionist,which is something that people like Franco did,and no one would call Franco a liberal.
>>61210402
>If you were a socialist sure, but at that time everybody said how there was less crime and people werent retarded
Less crime because if you committed a crime against the state you fucking disappeared, sure.
>>61210563
It also has more people in general than any country on Earth bar China. 80% of their fucking country is Hindu.
>>61210544
>and they still have a higher HDI than Columbia.
that's not saying much, or anything at all, really.
>>61210184
>It's gotten so bad that anyone who's so much as read a line of Foucault needs to be removed from the academic world.
>how dare people read anything that doesn't agree with my politics and beliefs!!!
>b-but Trump should be held blameless for the stupid shit he says because FREE SPEECH!
You can't have it both ways.
>>61210511
So renewables (and nuclear which I'm all for) have reduced co2 emissions? How is that an argument to continue fracking and using fossil fuels?
>>61210238
Perhaps, but what is work is used to justify is rather horrific.
I'd also have to tack on Fanon, Said, Rawls, Marcuse, etc.
>>61210500
Yeah, shows how absolutely fucking retarded native brits are
>>61210340
>not born in the UK
i thought only people born in the UK were allowed to vote
anyway, thanks Tatcher for the huge class divide that made all this possible
>>61210638
Yea, this was never a easy country friend now we have people running aroung with military grade weapons raiding hospitals, you decide where you want to live
>>61210648
It's saying something when the whole argument is "lol commies r dumb" and yet they still are more developed than you even in the middle of a crisis.
>pampered middle class people who don't have to deal with the daily realities of living in working class areas filled with Muslim gangs and drunken Poles want to stay
what a shock
>>61205219
That depends on what they're majoring in. Most people who attend college major in something useless
>>61210518
>Nice meme.
Yeah those millions of Pakistanis and Indians are all highly educated STEM graduates. Lmao.
And it doesn't work like that. Even though Britain wasn't in the Schengen zone, European migrants still had special rights which facilitate migrating there.
>>61210402
Even third party analyses show Cuba as better than much of Latin America in all ways except GDP per capita and freedom of expression
Cuba has huge, huge problems, but would probably be worse with liberalism. Again, look at the Dominican.
>>61210696
They dont have toilet paper nor food, thats pretty dumb to me
>>61210653
>So renewables (and nuclear which I'm all for) have reduced co2 emissions?
Yes,they have,but only nuclear and Hydraulic have been seriois alternatives for reducing it.
> How is that an argument to continue fracking and using fossil fuels?
Ecause we are not ready to phase fossil fuels out? Gas>>>>>coal,so fracking has been one of the best things that had happen to reduce CO2 emissions in the US
>>61210648
Colombians are illegally going into Ecuador, and that place is a shit hole
t. Ecuadorian who left
>>61210736
Dude, if you go there they ask you to give them shit like thooth brushes and soap, if Cuba is so great why are they fleeing to america
>>61210736
>Even third party analyses show Cuba as better than much of Latin America in all ways except GDP per capita and freedom of expression
Because those things happened before Castro? Cuba before Castro was as wealthy as Austria,had more Doctprs per Capita than the UK,and was the most well feed country in America,surprassing the US or Argentina. So Cuba,has gone backwards by every standard. If that is progress for you,I dont know what to say.
>most educated people in the country are ZL (United Left) voters
>their pre-election program litearally included "abolishment of Capitalism", "pro immigration", "democratic socialism"
And then /int/ tells me these people are smart. They're just out of touch retards that think the world is flowers and strawberries and vote for a bunch of feel good bullshit becuase they never experienced the real world in their ivory towers.
P.S. some of the biggest idiots I know, especially a couple of women, are supposed to be the "educated" ones.
>>61210722
College isn't a trade school though. The degree might be useless for finding employment, but not for educating yourself.
>>61210696
half of our country isn't even developed and most educated people leave the country after college since the 90s or so.
>>61210725
>And it doesn't work like that. Even though Britain wasn't in the Schengen zone, European migrants still had special rights which facilitate migrating there.
That doesn't somehow magically mean they're not allowed to migrate there, especially since you don't have to be in the EU to be in the Schengen zone (Switzerland, for example). It depends on what the UK decides to do for its migrant policies.
>Yeah those millions of Pakistanis and Indians are all highly educated STEM graduates. Lmao.
Haven't a fucking clue desu, they could be.
>>61210650
You're making several incorrect assumptions about me. I don't support free speech nor do I have any fondness for Trump.
I'm merely an anti-intellectual, and on the subject of Foucault, having such destructive thoughts enter your mind should be enough to have you declared mentally ill.
>>61210743
The thing is we're reaching the point where irreversible climate change is beginning to set in, so we don't have the luxury of gradually shifting our economy. One way or another the shock will come as desertification and natural disasters cause havoc or we make a sudden, huge shift towards renewables. Both choices involve economic catastrophe, but only one involves massive environmental destruction.
>>61210791
But people from all of Latin America are fleeing to America. Cuba is poor as shit, but it was poor under Batista and will still be poor if it abandons socialism.
>>61210890
>You're making several incorrect assumptions about me
In fairness I was mostly strawmanning anti-intellectual Trump supporters as a whole.
Hmm.
>LITERAL DUMBASSES voted LEAVE
>most brits on /int/ and /pol/ voted leave
?????
>>61210930
>Cuba is poor as shit
There, maybe if they dropped communism they'd at least have internet and soap
>>61210865
way to oversimplify things mate
>>61210951
It's no secret that 4chan is home to a lot of dumbasses
I don't even fully understand what this means but I'm liking how everyone's yelling at each other
Why does nothing dramatic ever happen here?
>>61211016
The internet in general is home to us dumbasses.
>>61211061
welcome to being both passive and irrelevant, please enjoy your stay
>>61203901
Chomsky is a moron, though.
>>61210744
There's 30k ecuadorians here, and apparently colombians in ecuador don't even chart.
>>61203768
Universities are just leftism indoctrination centres
>muh womyn's studies degree is worth the same as any STEM degree
>t. Remain voter
>>61210951
Silly Goy, don't you know /pol/ is satire.
>>61210897
>The thing is we're reaching the point where irreversible climate change is beginning to set in, so we don't have the luxury of gradually shifting our economy
No. We have,and there are clear alternatives,for example France example,that only 8% of their energy productiom is due fossil fuels. But you know where most of their energy come from? Nuclear,and liberals are opposing it,specially the more liberal ones.
You know what couod solve any food shortages problem? GMO's. You know who oppose them? Liberals. I see liberals like Sanders as a bigger threat to the environment than people like Trump.
>>61211001
I didn't over simplify anything, the OP did. Going by his logic the smartest people want to abolish capitalism (literally).
That is if you think education = smart. My entire point was that Education is worth jack shit in this context and is misleading to say the least. But its usefull for the left at this moment because it show that the leave voters are a "bunch of uneducated bafoons"
>>61211061
lucky bastards
>>61210845
1950s Austria is s very poor example, as it had been devastated by the war and didn't respond as well to the Marshall Plan.
>>61211061
Because we live on an island separated from the rest of the world
The only "exciting" things that happen here is voting for more debt or voting for even more debt
>>61211111
>Universities are just leftism indoctrination centres
Most people I know who say this have no idea what they're talking about.
>mfw graduate student
>mfw there's a pretty even distribution between lefties and righties among my peers
>mfw colleague wears a MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN hat every day and nobody really minds
>>61211132
>Going by his logic the smartest people want to abolish capitalism (literally)
you're 10 steps ahead, this is not what the referendum was about. Education is worth something every time you vote, it allows you not to think with your guts which is a good thing.
>>61211132
>he thinks capitalism shouldn't be abolished
You cute lil cuck
>>61211167
Do you like Italy better? Cuba was twice as wealthy as Spain,and the median income was 70% of the American one.
>>61211207
We have lots of exciting things. We had the flag referendum. That was fun for a while.
Before that it was probably Shrek the Sheep
>>61203768
>higher education
>in gender studies
>>61210982
A wealthy class would benefit, but education would drop massively, crime would skyrocket, healthcare would be nonexistent, and poverty (both nominal and relative) would rise substantially
>>61211118
Cool strawmanning friend.
For liberals it's renewable energy > nuclear > fossil fuels. And non-gmo > gmo > famine.
>>61210982
>maybe if sanctions were dropped they'd at least have Internet and soap
FTFY
>>61210950
>In fairness I was mostly strawmanning anti-intellectual Trump supporters as a whole.
It's hardly a strawman. I've met people exactly like that, but I doubt they think of themselves as anti-intellectuals.
>>61211111
>muh womyn's studies degree is worth the same as any STEM degree
It's funny how people who jerk about STEM degrees and their superiority haven't ever actually studied shit
I'm still sore about falling for this meme and going for a physics degree. It's literally worse than a fucking woman's studies degree. At least they can get a job in HR or something. I'm now enjoying my fourth year of unemployment after graduating.
>>61211343
>t. basement dweller who dropped out of highschool
>>61211451
why in god's name would you go for fucking physics? what did you expect to accomplish with it? when people say that shit they mean stuff like compsci or engineering.
>>61211397
Those things already exist you retard, do you really believe that Cuba is so great, have you seen a pic of their hospitals, did you know that they have 2 different types of currency and both go back to the goverment did you know that the only thing that keeps the island going is the money sent by relatives that fled
>>61211451
>be me
>get degree in biology
>find literally no job
>get degree in languages
>hired 3 months after my graduation
wew
>>61211343
Better than no education, no matter what you insist
>>61211420
>sanctions
Just like the one that didnt let Brazil built a billion dollar Port on it
>>61211110
Chart?
When I went on a vacation in Ecuador 4 years ago (I only lived there for 1 year when I was born), I was near the Colombian border on a bus, and an army convoy stops us. They check all our luggages, and bodies for drugs. They have some assualt rifles pointed at us and demanding our papers. I've never been more scared desu.
Your women are hot, not like the cholas there.
>>61211451
When people in 4chan say STEM they mean engineering.
>>61208717
Yet japan who has higher average IQs than everyone around the world is predominantly center to right.
>>61211526
Yeah, that's why they make you take gen-eds before specializing in your last couple of years/grad school.
The point of a college education isn't to stuff you full of just one subject. You have to get a little sip of everything before progressing to your field.
It surprises me how few people outside of college know about this.
>>61211434
>It's hardly a strawman.
Maybe not, but as it applies to you it was. I was generalizing and exaggerating, mostly for humor, rather than addressing you directly.
>>61211451
I have a physics degree and quite employable. You must be doing something wrong. It's one of the best degrees to have. Maybe Finland just sucks for jobs and you have to look elsewhere in Europe? Except UK of course, they won't take in white immigrants anymore.
>>61211513
And those things are mostly worse in Brazil ,
:^)
http://country-facts.findthedata.com/compare/18-129/Cuba-vs-Brazil
>>61211526
topkek. gender studies and post-modernism have effects similar to dementia. you unlearn any capacity for logical thought if you had any.
>>61211460
I have Ph.D. in math so it's as useless.
>>61203768
This doesn't really mean anything now that we have lesbian dance degrees. You could argue that people with "higher education" might be less smart on average since they get tricked into buying worthless degrees.
>>61211411
>For liberals it's renewable energy > nuclear > fossil fuels. And non-gmo > gmo > famine.
Because you say so? Liberals want nuclear shut down pushed by "the greens" in Germany,and look at what happened.
And the anti gmo collective says crap like transgenic food produces cancer.
The only people pushing for nuclear shutdowns are liberals.
>>61211649
Gender studies is very impractical but not worthless. The education provided offers a pretty important understanding of the history and nuances of gender, which anybody who wishes to enter a field directly relating to gender must understand.
The people who take those courses tend to be a little fanatical, but an uneducated person is substantially more ignorant the someone with a gender studies degree.
>>61211291
How deluded do you have to be to believe a piece of paper allows you to think on your own? That's what formal education is, a piece of paper, it gives you no inherent knowledge of politics and does in no way give you the ability to judge things better than anyone else.
See my point yet again. The most educated people in the country apparently think that abolishing capitalism is a smart idea. You're saying these very same people somehow have a better grasp of the state of affairs?
>>61211299
Even our socialists shot people like that lad.
>>61211642
And guess what we are almost commies too, i can almost see a patern here
>>61211761
>an uneducated person is substantially more ignorant the someone with a gender studies degree.
I'm willing to bet gender studies majors have an IQ lower than 100.
>waahh, why did dumb, working-class little-englanders vote for brexit and parties other than labor?
>waahh, why do inbred, racist working class whites vote for Trump?
The modern left in a nutshell.
>>61211761
I can guarantee someone with 4 years of work experience is more knowledgeable than someone who spent daddy's money for 4 years obtaining a shit degree like gender studies.
>>61211683
>Because you say so? Liberals want nuclear shut down pushed by "the greens" in Germany,and look at what happened.
Exactly, what happened? Something did just because they 'wanted'? Kek
Liberals are pushing for a shutdown of both nuclear and fossil fuels.
Looking forward to you showing me an actual high profile liberal politician saying something like that about GMOs, and by high profile I mean as high profile as a presidential candidate of burgerland with nearly 50% approval saying that vaccines cause autism.
>>61203768
Aren't you guys supposed to be all for the proletariat?
>>61211683
Those aren't real liberals. Liberals want fewer restrictions on the market and culture, not more restrictions.
>>61203768
Higher education means fuck all, most people at uni do BA in English, Art, Sport, Gender Studies or some other stupid shit you can get jobs with in the real world. I know loads of people who went to rolls Royce with apprenticeships to make jet engines, which wont be classed as higher education.
Also most leave will be older people who have skilled jobs which didn't used to need degrees for everything. I mean you need a degree to work in Tesco's now.
What a joke. & FYI I got a good degree in Engineering at a red brick uni and voted out. Have fun bailing out the shit countries and ultimately the collapse the EU (especially if it works out well for the UK).
>>61212130
He's a burger/burger indoctrinated idiot who substitutes 'leftist' for 'liberal'.
Fucking hell my stocks went down 6 percent this morning because of you limeys
>>61211766
>That's what formal education is, a piece of pape
a piece of paper you've earned after years of study in your field of interest, unless we're talking about meme courses like feminism 101 you learn some basic things no matter what you study and one of these is questioning yourself. Now this is important when it comes to situations like this: if you can question yourself chances are you're gonna put some more thought into who you're voting for.
>You're saying these very same people somehow have a better grasp of the state of affairs?
If we want to keep it down to earth then yes, especially if the other side is a very general "immigrants=bad EU=bad"
>>61212029
>Exactly, what happened?
That coal spiked again.
Sanders is anti gmo and almost got the democratic convention.
>>61203768
This is nvidia tier data presentation
That is such a bs way to present that data. And why is there even an x axis? Could you vote degrees of how much you want to leave?
>>61212130
I am using american terminology,as it is the consensus here. Liberals in Europe is wjat americans call libertarians.
>>61203768
>higher education
>makes you a better human being
Also, the majority of leave voters were older people, so it makes sense they don't have degrees in social diversity.
>>61212220
And they will go right back up and continue with normal growth when people stop falling for media paranoia
Buy more
>>61212069
The left traded advocating working-class interests for virtue-signalling, LGBTQ rights, and importing cheap labor for the corporations they supposedly despise.
>>61212285
>coal miraculously spiked because the liberals are supposedly anti-nuclear
>sanders is anti-gmo even though he says he isn't on his official website
Okay, I will just ignore you from now on.
>>61212245
grazie
>>61209408
>all that fishing we do
>>61203901
I feel like that's a clever quip.
In this case, it's supposed to mock the unintelligent, all you have to do is replace the word propaganda with facts.
If you really want to know who's most susceptible to propaganda, look at the final result, the OP chart, and the following image.
>>61204393
>>61204492
>Implying Marine's "WE LEAVE EU GET OUR MONEY BACK, HONEST" isn't as retarded as Hollande's "I'LL MAKE FIRING ILLEGAL AND TRIPLE SALARIES, HONEST"
Fuck democracy, seriously, most people shouldn't be able to vote
>>61212490
>spiked because the liberals are supposedly anti-nuclear
Coal spiked because they closed nuclear plants dumbass.
Sanders wants to lable GMO and is suspicious about him. I dont know what you are talking about.
>>61212538
I believe that was his point.
>>61207404
It's not their opinions though, for the most part. It's the opinions of their favourite news source.
How many people bothered to read the Lisbon Treaty during this whole mess? I did. Instantly showed most of the calls against it to be BS.
>>61212538
Wow I wonder why
>>61212686
>It's not their opinions though, for the most part. It's the opinions of their favourite news source.
Just like most people voting in all elections
Policy idea: only those who pass a basic knowledge and IQ test may become voters. This ought to be a hit with the progressives
>>61212367
You don't understand the implications. Neither so voters. Brexit essentially means London's era as a financial center is over. The banking and finance sector of UK is fucked.
>>61207404
52-48% is hardly "the voice of the people"
I would be pissed as fuck if we passed something this important on a 4% difference.
>>61212574
I've looked it up and it's only a temporary increase until they replace both with renewable resources.
>labeling GMOs is being anti-GMO
Okay.
>>61212785
>international finance will cease having such a strangehold on the country
The reward is worth the pain
>>61212245
>a piece of paper you've earned after years of study in your field of interest,
It's still just a piece of paper. You get the same working in a specific field for years. For fucks sake our ex-prime minister (unelected at that) could barely speak English and she's highly educated, yet at the same time you can't even pass elementary school without passing English classes. Half the degrees out there are useless by this point.
Even in our family, there's two examples like that, my borthers wife-highly educated-works as a glorified secretary. My older brother has his own company, only had elementary school when he founded it, finished high school on the side, earns more than my dad. My dad, who's one of the few people in the country in his field, both highly educated formally and informally, earns 1500€-2000€ a month.
>and one of these is questioning yourself.
Really now? You need colledge to question yourself?
>unless we're talking about meme courses like feminism 101
Half the degrees are useless shit by now. No surprise half the population goes to colledge and there's an over abundance of educated people without jobs. Shit like economists that end up working as a bank teller or literally graduates that end up as secretaries. Especially Social science degrees that half the population picks up and literally include commie propaganda in the curriculum.
No wonder then that these "educated" people vote for literal communists in election. A point you keep skiddding aside. There's no way you can convince me in any shape or form that somehow formal education makes you smarter or indeed makes you a better judge of politics.
If that was the actual case the party with the highest % of people with higher education would not be communists. Period.
>>61209695
>implying that Brits are as organised or as skilled as the Swiss
People still believe in MUH EMPIRE shit. This is just as bad as WE WUZ KINGZ.
>>61212804
>labeling GMOs is being anti-GMO
It is as it is an arbitrary regulation based on feelings.
>labelling jews is antisemite
>Ok
>>61212885
Do you seriously believe that the EU is good for manufacturing? Serious question.
>>61212783
desu. Referendum should really be banned altogether. Sure, it's max democracy, but it's expensive, drawn-out, and dangerously easy to manipulate with a large enough platform.
>>61210239
Kek
Now they have no racial minorities to assault, they'll be too depressed to do any work.
>>61212832
We're not talking about degrees being useful, we're talking about university giving you some basic mental tools that might make you not vote "with your guts" thus making your vote much more meaningful
>If that was the actual case the party with the highest % of people with higher education would not be communists.
and what would it be then? Tories (that have won) or maybe UKIP (kek)? Or maybe the LibDems (lmao)?
>>61212909
>labeling your food is like labeling people
Okay, now I'm done for good.
>>61212909
You deserve to be gassed for that analogy.
>>61213027
This. I'm doing a university course at college, and one of the 14 credits is a sort of social development class. No tests or anything, you just attend. They develop your rational thinking capability to make you more employable.
>>61212826
You sound quite confident. Normal for someone who doesn't understand economy. London just lost its single biggest reason for having attracted all the big financial companies. You don't understand how dependent London is on the financial sector, and how badly it will now be fucked without access to the EU.
>>61213029
When the labeling is totally arbitrary with no objective basis? Prerty much.
>>61213027
>we're talking about university giving you some basic mental tools that might make you not vote "with your guts" thus making your vote much more meaningful
Only if you're an idiot. See? That was is. I can make unsubstantiated claims that can't be proven or disproven too. How's that working out for you right now?
>and what would it be then? Tories (that have won) or maybe UKIP (kek)? Or maybe the LibDems (lmao)?
I'm talking in our specific case, tard.
In Slovenia, the United Left, literally has the highest percentage of people with higher education. Thus disproving your entire point out of hand. Unles, that is, you think Communists are smart and rational people that don't vote with their gut feelings in which case you should be sent to an institution.
>>61213177
They literally do that at the unemployment centre here, sned you to classes like that. Unemplyed confirmed for best voters.
I'm not sure what everyone's so excited about. This is only the beginning.
>>61213248
Fucking this
The economists who've been desperately pointing this out must be staring at their handgun right now
>>61213351
>You know, if you stick your hand in to that fire, you're going to get burned.
>It's always doom and gloom with you, have some faith in my genetic material.
>>61213294
1 your first point makes no sense, filtering your feelings through your brain in order to make the most rational decision possible is important and should be an essential component in every democracy and this is taught in pretty much every university. So probably an educated person is gonna think MORE about who they're voting for. If you think this is unsubstantiated I'm sorry but you must be blind, the number of uneducated people unable to justify who they're voting for in any way that isn't a slogan or something like X is bad is sky high.
Pretty convenient to use your own country as an example innit? I have no idea how it works, for all I know the opposition is made of complete retards and communists are in fact the lesser evil
>>61213385
I work in the finance industry. And you bet there is panic in London. Thousands of employees are scared shitless about their jobs. They will either be cut or relocated. You are going to see the financial sector scatter from London to places like Paris and Frankfurt.
>>61207209
Thanks for the keks, anon.
>>61214144
>I work in the finance industry.
>tobleroneland
Kinda redundant, don't you think?
>>61207209
It depends on the type of education. A gender studies major is dumber than a bag of hammers.
>>61214351
Yea, but just wanted to make sure. It's maybe a 50% chance with this flag.
Funny thing is, our company now will have no EU office. That means we have to set up a new shop somewhere like Frankfurt now that our London office can no longer handle the EU market.
>>61214408
Let's be honest, we all know a Degree is only STEM. Anything else is a wall hanging.
>>61207548
It would be easier to simply make them pass a logic reasoning test. If you can't use logic to make decisions you shouldn't vote, ever.
Come at me.
>>61210702
I've lived in working class areas full of white gangs, where no one is non-white.
>>61214144
>I have to watch my country crumble into pieces because of stupid poor people
>>61214440
Fair enough.
Also, helden sterben nicht.
>>61210702
>massive generalisation massive generalisation massive generalisation massive generalisation massive generalisation massive generalisation massive generalisation massive generalisation
ahhh yes very impressive
>>61210526
>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
Someone please shot this faggot dead before he crashes America.
This is just a hypothetical...
But does anyone else wonder would people on the "leave" side have had such explosive reactions had the vote swung the other way?
>>61214568
Come to Scotland. We are your last hope.
>>61214734
since the pro leave crowd was mostly pakis and moslems I reckon they would have had a much more explosive reaction
>>61209273
>doesn't want to ban weapons.
>talks shit about vaccines, which prevent diseases.
Yeah... Socrates can't hold a candle to him... Truly a sage...
>>61214734
They wanted to give back control to a government that they didn't trust to the point that they took their own pens to the ballots. They were convinced it was rigged. If it had gone the other way, there would have been a demanded recount by now.
>>61214817
since when has scotland done anything but leech off of other countries and establishments?
>>61214729
>>61210526
It's not a satire twitter account?
>>61214886
Since before your country was born.
>>61214909
>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
I double-checked just to be sure. That's actually him.
>>61214909
>https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/449525268529815552?lang=en
See that blue tick next to his name?
This person might be president of the most powerful nation in a bunch of months if enough inbred fools decide to vote.
>>61215005
care to give an example? preferably from the past ~100 years or so.
We've yet to have an event quite like bringing down the wall (for the lack of a better historic event).
What'll it be?
>>61209208
The UK might fall apart and become irrelevant but it's nothing compared to what's going to happen to America when this dumb fuck gets elected.
>>61213820
>So probably an educated person is gonna think MORE about who they're voting for.
Ah, I see, you're an educated person that's not using his gut RIGHT NOW, right? You have scientific data supporting your view? Correct?
Oh, wait.
>neducated people unable to justify who they're voting for in any way that isn't a slogan or something like X is bad is sky high.
Oh, you mean like all that gender identity crap and other non-issues coming from the universities today? Talk about shooting yourself in the leg. I vote for X cause gay rights. I vote for Y because female/sex/race representation, I vote for Z because C is homophobic, racist, islamophobic, etc.
>Pretty convenient to use your own country as an example innit? I have no idea how it works, for all I know the opposition is made of complete retards and communists are in fact the lesser evil
You're an idiot then. Do I need to strees how stupid you sound when the communist party literally puts forth "abolishment of capitalism" as a political aim prior to the elections?
>Pretty convenient to use your own country as an example innit? I have no idea how it works, for all I know the opposition is made of complete retards and communists are in fact the lesser evil
Yes, it's pretty convenient, and pretty unconvenient for you as you have no way to rationalize it so once again you're going with your gut feeling, exactly what you claim the "uneducated" do.
Thanks for proving my point troughout this conversation.
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It's probably because most of the rest of the Americans are asleep, but it's nice to call out Trump as the idiot asshole he is without being buried in memes and called a cuck 2000 times.
I mean, I probably just jinxed it, but it's nice for the moment.
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>You're an idiot then. Do I need to strees how stupid you sound when the communist party literally puts forth "abolishment of capitalism" as a political aim prior to the elections?
Again, for all I know thy're claiming that just to catch as many votes as possible and don't intend to enforce any anti-capitalist laws, I do not know your system and I have no intention of judging it. If you think I'm thinking with my guts you're wrong
As for the other thing, we're talking about probabilities, nothing scientific and from my experience educated people tend not to reduce everything to oversimplified issues. Of course there plenty exceptions on both sides but you get the jist m8
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>Again, for all I know thy're claiming that just to catch as many votes as possible and don't intend to enforce any anti-capitalist laws
that literally doesn't matter because it still means that people are voting for them on the basis of this promise
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>Again, for all I know thy're claiming that just to catch as many votes as possible
So, why do they then have the highest percentage of high educated voters?
Are high educated voters idiots?
> If you think I'm thinking with my guts you're wrong
But you are, your entire premise is based on guts and feelings.
>As for the other thing, we're talking about probabilities, nothing scientific
Probabilities are math, math is scientific. You're basing your judgment on nothing but your gut feeling. Your assumptions are that X is more likely to Y without anything backing it up.
