You have to reborn in a Balkan country
Where would it be?
>Romania (Transylvania)
Slovenia is nice.
>>60989223
>Slovenia
>Romania
>Balkan states
2bh I would choose Croatia so I could live among my East Slovene brothers.
>>60989223
youve got serbia twice on pic
Montenegro because the Casinos
>>60989223
Hrvatska
Slovenia ofc
>>60989223
monteniggro ili obala grčka
Greece, because I am a Greek
>>60989223
I like it here, so I'd chose Greece again
If I had to chose another country though, I'd chose Croatia.
Slovenia. Richest of them all considering gdp.
Also closer to the north and further away from the turks.
>>60989223
>>60989319
technically, he has parts of greater Serbia on there, he'll get back to his powerful former self, also I would like to be reborn in Serbia, maybe Croatia because they are nice to me in here
>>60989223
Easy. Slovenia.
I'd kill myself desu
I can't belive how many people chose Slovenia, country full of bitter suicidal alcoholics.
I'd probably choose Greece, because it seems like a country of happy people, beautiful beaches and cool music and culture.
I'd say here because I already lived here but we're just an embarassment to Europe so I'd say Slovenia senpai
>>60990314
Nah, you're ok
Slovenia or Croatia
Bulgaria
>>60989223
republika srbija
>>60989223
>been to all of these countries
Has to be Slovenia or Croatia.
At a push Romania (Transylvania)
Slovenia, Croatia or Greece, obviously.
How is this even a debate?
>You have to reborn in a Balkan country
oh God, not again
1.Slovenia
2.Montenegro
3.Romania
4.Bulgaria
5.Croatia
>>60989308
Romania mos def is a Balkan state. It was under the Turks and remains influenced by MENA culture, ergo it's Balkanic.
Slovenia on the other hand is not in the Balkans, as evidenced by our superior quality of life stemming from our decidedly non-oriental mentality.
>>60989223
>Be Serbia
>Lose clay
>Lose more clay
I could live in a country that can somehow justify themselves losing and losing and losing and still brag about themselves on internet fora.
>>60992864
Romania is considered Balkan just because of the Dobrugea
>>60989223
Greece and Croatia seem nice can't decide from the two though.
greece even tho it's rough times there right now they are first world. i went to greece, fyrom, serbia and croatia and it's like the us/mexico border when you go to slavland
>>60989223
Born as an Aromanian in Greece
>>60989223
Montenegro cause those people are tall as fuck
>>60993377
aromanians in greece are treated worse than turks
>>60989223
Greece for sure.
>>60989223
Transylvania is the best choice out of those, no question,especially if you like nature.
So i choose Transylvania in Brasov.
>>60993611
Brasov :3
Pacat ca n-are o facultate decenta...
>>60993555
That's because you can't tell a Turk apart from a Greek. Not the case with aromanians
Slovenia is the best country in Eastern Europe, although that's not saying much. They're still poorer than Southern Italy even.
>>60993555
Nope, they're treated as Greeks
>>60993724
>they're treated as Greeks
yes,a little to much.Grrek government does not recognise aromanians as an ethno-linguistical group, just a linguistical group.According to chauvinist greek government, aromanians are just greeks who learned a "barbar latin".Even albanians traet aromanians better.
>>60989393
>>60993782
Vlachs consider themselves part of the Greek ethnos though, they share no kinship with Romanians
Genetically they might not be Greeks, but they are considered Greeks and they consider themselves Greeks
>>60993132
This is hilarious. Soon, the border of Balkans will be on the Atlantic and Baltic Sea. Italy should be a Balkan country, too.
>>60993821
>Vlachs consider themselves part of the Greek ethnos though
Vlachs assimilate very easy.It is very easy to consider yourself greek when you dont have a state.
Genetically&linguistically* they are not greeks
>>60993854
So?
Should we consider them as different from the Greeks even though they themselves don't?
>>60992010
Because we're too naive, believing people here would choose to live somewhere not only because it has a higher number on an internet site or a piece of paper, you empty shell of a man
Just offer people any other choice and they will always choose the one that has a higher GDP, even it is a change within decimal. And then we bitch about the refugees skipping a dozen countries on their way to Sweden or Germany and the ruins of our fair "marriage institution" because women now choose the best, Chads and whatnot. You God damn, duplicitous leeches
I went to Slovenia twice. It is a lovely country, its small size adding to its charm. Cleaner than Croatia, more expensive but people have a better standard. The mountains were nice too. That's it. The hills, the villages, the nuevo-commie blocks, the seaside, thr loud Bosnians, the kebab stands, nothing I've missed, as a Croat.That's what Slovenia has. Turkey, Greece, Bulgaria for fuck sake, have a hundred times more variety and culture. They have splendid rivers, high mountains, good food, and their economy is not as far as Slovenes. Let's not mention Romania, which has even more variety and culture, it's economy going up
Come on, you fucking clueless idiots. Money's not the only parameter you'd choose to live somewhere, you miserable fucks? An average Slovene is wealthier than the average Romanian, but Romania's food is dirt cheap, their country consists of 30 Slovenia's, they have the Carpathians, the Black sea coast, the culture and thr language, fast growing IT and shit like that. Romania being just one example
>>60993882
O course SOME do, when greeks do not have any respect for any minority.Try and open a aromanian school in Greece, you would be harassed worse than a muslim.
But it gets even worse.Vlachs from Albania&Fyrom are getting payed by greeks to declare themelvs as greeks.
>>60993930
>Vlachs from Albania&Fyrom are getting payed by greeks to declare themelvs as greeks
Greeks are not even paid properly and you think we're handing out cash for retarded reasons like that?
>SOME do
All of them do, I've been in Thessaly, I've spent some months in Metsovo, they speak Greek and they act Greek, some just speak another language and have some different customs
>harassed if you open an aromanian school
I doubt it, there are Jewish schools here in Greece even though they themselves are a minority
>>60993611
>>60993644
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>>60989223
Probably Bulgaria, our greatest ally
Also:
>Kosovo
>state
>>60994013
>>60993930
>my simple post has set ablaze an argument
wew
>>60994059
>Probably Bulgaria, our greatest ally
T-Thanks Serbia
>>60994063
It's just an autist that thinks Vlachs here are mistreated
Which is utter bullcrap
>>60994083
Sarcasm, my Greek brother, you know quite well they have back-stabbed us many times throughout history
>>60994059
I'm surprised you didn't choose bring a Serb in Croatia. You enter the local Serbian party, yell "Ustaše" or anything containing that word, no matter the context, and you get paid a thousand euros at least. The government secures your paycheck, so no worries of budget cuts and sacking
>>60994167
What do you expect from a bunch of Turks pretending to be Slavs pretending to be Turks?
>>60994013
>All of them do, I've been in Thessaly, I've spent some months in Metsovo, they speak Greek and they act Greek, some just speak another language and have some different customs
Because your FUCKING GOVERNMENT FORCED ASSIMILATE THEM
When you were never recognised as a ethno-linguistical group, as a minority, when you dont have a state, you will eventually get assimilated.But there are still REAL aromanians, that did not fall for greeks filthy tricks.
>Greeks are not even paid properly and you think we're handing out cash for retarded reasons like that?
It is well known that Greek government pays the aromanians from South Albania, to declare themselvs as greeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewsxr1hgrPI
https://albaniaperomaneste.com/relatiile-albanezo-romane/aromanii-din-albania/
>>60994116
http://www.romanii.ro/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=58:romanii-din-grecia-&catid=45:romanii-de-langa-noi&Itemid=59
read more.In 1945 Greece banned all aromanian schools .
>>60994184
Probably because I am one of those Serbs who thinks that Croatian and Serbian nationalists who are fighting over stupid shit are more retarded than all Down syndrome patients combined
>>60994193
AT LEAST to not flank us during the worst years of WW1, insufferable cunts
http://minorityrights.org/minorities/vlachs/
Vlach cultural societies are permitted, and there is a Panhellenic Union of Vlach Cultural Associations. Vlachs are more tolerated than other minority groups by the Greek state. However, the official view is that Vlachs are Greeks who speak an unusual dialect, and there is popular hostility to the use of the Aromanian language, which has been internalized by many Vlachs themselves. This, combined with urbanization and other social, political and economic factors, has resulted in the language’s decline.
Eat shit greek scums.
>>60994231
>a Romanian site
>unbiased evidence
Nice one
>>60994305
>During the Second World War an army of Vlach fascists was set up – ‘The Roman Legion’
I wonder why the Greeks would later think negatively of the vlachs there... HMMMMMM
>>60993887
You gave no compelling evidence that Bulgaria or Romania have more culture than Slovenia. Maybe you're just confusing the Middle Eastern wailing sound of Balkan music and the Middle Eastern taste of Balkan food with cultural richness.
>>60994305
> The Federation asserted that Vlach-speaking Greeks never asked to be recognized as a minority by the Greek state as both historically and culturally they were, and still are an integral part of Hellenism
Come on now
Serbia because I would feel like at home.
>>60994359
Yes. I am unfortunate enough to consider it culture, just as I consider Atomik Harmonik, prežganka and "generic hochdeutsch musik vol.2" as invaluable and inalienable Slovene fultural legacy
>>60994556
k bby stay jelly
>>60994537
We have a whole region on par with latinos. Siesta/fiesta, Mediterranean type. I think you'd feel at home here...
>>60989223
Greece looks comfy desu
Obviously Montenegro
slovenia undoubtedly
>>60994401
come on what?Your PM hismelf said at one point that vlachs in greece are greeks who learned a barbar language
>>60994357
i gave you video from aromanians themselvs dumb fuck
>>60993887
haha funnypost
>reborn
>still in balkans
WEW
pls no
>>60994762
>beach culture
No thanks.
t. Bogotáfag
>>60990149
hahaha look at the Bosnian banter, bitching about people/country 50x more advanced
as a question goes, easy, Slovenia or Croatia
>>60989223
Turkey is objectively the best country among those butthurt shitholes. And it's objectively the only true answer.
>>60989433
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>>60994944
Yes they were forced assimilated. Their language is fading away. They consider themselves greek. In the revolution they fought for Greece's independence and they will never be recognized as a minority because they don't even want to.
Feels good desu : ^)
Nice dubs m8, checked
>>60989223
If not Greece again,then serbia or croatia
i like them equally
>>60994289
fuck off serb, we had to attack you during the yugo wars, too
>>60995180
turk
>>60989223
Serbia, Montenegro or Greece. Doesn't matter much. It seems more comfortable to be reborn Slavic.
>>60995525
>Greece
>Slavic
>>60994359
how can you even compare your historically non-existent country to that of Bulgaria and Romania in culture?
>>60996609
Congratulations, your country existed for a few decades more.
Romania so i can still be latin
>>60989223
Croatia
>>60996657
go throbble that austriak cock before Romania annexes you :)
>>60994359
You're autistic if you think Slovenia can be compared to Bulgaria in terms of culture.
I am croat diaspora so I think croatia would suit me nicely
>>60996789
oh yes the great Bulgarian culture of collecting copper
Would I feel confortable in Montenegro if I'm only 5'9 tall?
>>60996789
WE
>>60996779
I really wish UNICEF stepped up so that Romanian children wouldn't have to steal copper to survive.
>>60996935
>>60997045
No really, tell me. What the fuck kind of culture does your almost-country have that can beat Bulgaria's? Please explain.
Montenegro has a richer culture and history than Slovenia.
>>60989223
u Srbiji
>>60989319
Ovo
sLOVEnia
>>60997212
ZLOvenia
1.Slovenia-only normal country from these...central european culture and mindset. Amazing nature(mountains) and very cool mix of cuisines
2.Greece-best beaches in Europe and still civilzed
3.Croatia-ok beaches, ok economy
4. Romania-still poor af but its always cool be part of booming economy and start some business
5. Bulgaria-at least its in EU
Rest are shitholes, Africa tier with Turkey mentality
>>60997231
BURGLARia
>>60997262
POOland
>>60996789
these famous bulgarian....eh....?
>>60997124
We have superior alpine culture, t*tar.
>>60997330
>slovene
>culture
all you have you stole from italians and austrians
now that I think about it that does make you 100% balkan in culture
>>60997421
#REKT
>>60997124
the word culture is a meme, you can observe this frequently when a brit making 35k/year points out that an american making 100k/year has no culture, so it's better being poorer and to look at old houses which have pakis living in them and believing in old superstitions and let's not forget that Bulgars used to be a bunch of turks who got cucked by slavs, I mean why are you on a mongolian throat singing forum when you could be outside enjoying the culture of gypsies?
>>60997421
true you gave us the idea to push you into fojbas so you could be granted eternal siestas
>>60997308
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bulgarians
>>60997491
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Bulgarians
>Kaloyan of Bulgaria
he was ethnic vlach, even though he was bulgarian by nationality.
>>60997421
>>60997467
>>60997124
I've got to give it to you gypsies, at least you stick together.
>>60997480
you're autistic as fuck m8, I asked you to tell me how Slovenian culture even compares to Bulgarian and all you do is insult, you're an autistic faggot who resorts to b8 when he can't prove his point
>>60997594
how was that bait the burden of proof lies on you faggot
>>60997491
literally who?
seriously thats pretty pathetic list
>>60989223
Slovenia it seems the least shitty and it's close to real countries.
>>60997647
>Literally who?
well it's gonna be the same thing if i check your people i'd probably recognise only a small handful.
>>60994193
Better than a much of Turks pretending to be Ancient Greeks.
>>60997522
wrong
>>60997633
just look at your flag m8
you're one of the few countries which has almost no culture or history of their own
>>60997716
>small handful
from that list I know only Berbatov
>>60989770
>maybe Croatia because they are nice to me in here
They only like us because NATO bombed their retarded Orthodox inbred cousins.
>>60997773
Nothing wrong.it was already argued and I won.
https://desustorage.org/int/thread/60739518/#60753829
>>60993887
basically this
OP should just post "choose richest country to move in"
>>60997836
That's not me but it looks like you lost that one lmao.
>>60989223
Turkey has the best food desu, so Turkey.
>>60997887
where did i lose anything from that thread?
I adressed every point and i was the only one that brought actual facts.
So we established that Ioanitsa Caloian was vlach, and that second bulgarian empire was called Vlacho-Bulgarian Empire during his reign.We also established that vlachs started the revolt that created the Empire.
>>60997648
if you were born here statistically you'd live a year longer because you won't be shot by niggers
>>60997773
oh how will i live with myself knowing that the poor gypsies of bulgaria were kangz n shit oh the humanity
>>60997773
>you're one of the few countries which has almost no culture or history of their own
Says the guy whose people's history literally starts with a bunch of random Slavs getting cucked by steppe people so hard they take their name and continues with a lot of Turkish rape.
>>60990149
>country full of bitter suicidal alcoholics.
Bosnia is faar more depressing than Slovenia. All that war torn buildings and poverty makes me wanna kill myself.
>>60997960
Yeah, I'm sure romanian history books teach you that. Didn't know r*manians were such subhumans to steal history like the "macedonians" 2bh.
>>60993821
>Genetically they might not be Greeks, but they are considered Greeks and they consider themselves Greeks
As should be. Now if the fucking Latin Americans would forget their shitty culture they might get somewhere here.
>>60998004
>romanian history books
>only contemporany sources and chronicles presented
kek keep the denial my bolg*rian friend ;)
>>60998000
lol this
>>60998077
weak b8
I think it's obvious to everyone that Slovenia is closer culturally to /v4/ than to balkanites.
>>60998153
I didnt know I was the one baiting.
>>60998159
that's because they have no culture
>>60998180
either you're b8ing or you genuinely believe, with all your heart, that you're right
just like Ivance Stojcevski from Skopje believes with all his heart that he is descendant from Alexander and Cleopatra
>>60989223
I have been to all these countries and Slovenia was the nicest so I choose that even though they aren't really Balkan.
>>60998200
>V4
>no culture
I laugh at you Eastern European
Probably Bosna or Crnagora, both have beautiful landscapes and relevancy is severely overrated. Though, am I born now or at the time I was IRL? Because '94 kinda makes Bosnia a no go.
>>60998252
are you idiot?That Caloian was vlach is a fact as testified as Hitler being austriak.When the Pope,all contemporany chronicles and writitngs from that time, call him vlach, it mens he was vlach.
>>60998330
xaxaxa so much delusion
literally WE WUZ ALEXANDER N SHIET
>>60998291
bulgarian culture is this
cuisine is bascily turkish or meat on stick
we eben have song about bulgarians
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EzMdAskU9M
>>60997963
>year longer because you won't be shot by niggers
Memes aside it's mostly niggers shot by niggers so that's not a concern for me.
>Slovenia has no history
Balkanites will actually believe this
>>60998494
ask anyone anywhere if they ever heard anything about your history, without googling it.
>>60998450
is the pic you just posted supposed to be insulting? it's an orthodox festival called Yordanovden/Bogoyavlenie and it's tradition for the priest to throw the cross into the freezing waters and bulgarian men jump after it to catch it, and whoever catches it will have good health throughout the year
this is culture
not subhuman ex-yu or v4 catholic cuckness
>>60998575
That counts for nothing though. The territory of Slovenia didn't just pop into existence in the 20th century, which means that we have a history that is just as long as any other nation's of comparable size.
>defending your shitty country this much on anonymous image board
Slovenian posters are all underage desu
>>60998695
that tradition to throw the water a cross during the coldest day of the Winter is also in Romania and is not orthodox but pre-christian.
>>60998803
in water
>>60996609
so you are saying there is no bask or catalan culture?
>>60998851
are you dumb moor?Im talking with slovenian poster
>>60998707
???
literally no one has any idea when slovenia popped up or how
the average european confuses you with slovakia and can't tell the 2 flags apart
europeans from nations that don't border you have no idea where you are on the map
Any bulgarian can answer where did they got this ritual?From the vlachs from Moesia?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUEFWuyzq9Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7QdQ8R5BUU
>>60998888
sure, but stupid argument is still stupid
also, romanian gypsy calling anybody moor is just funny, go pack that crappy van of yours and start driving to italy, that's your main economic branch isn't it?
>>60989223
Serbia without question
>>60999103
stupid how?Im talking here about culture not what you tried to imply.
Gypsies?They are a minority here treated like absolulte subhumans, but its a fact that portugalian people are not white.
>>60999123
You'd be treated nice in Vojvodina, there are a lot of your bros in the North too.
>>60989223
Either Bulgaria (for their women)
or
Romania (for their women)
>>60999070
there's no vlachs in moesia
also what ritual lmao? they're just dancing
an actual ritual we have is running/dancing bare feet in fire, it's called nestinarstvo
>>60999191
I wouldn't mind to be a Serb either. I love that country, maybe the second favourite European country of mine is Serbia, after Hungary.
>>60999249
>also what ritual lmao? they're just dancing
an ritual attested at UNESCO while yours is a copy from the vlachs of Balkan Mountains.
>an actual ritual we have is running/dancing bare feet in fire,
I dont care about this one, the one i posted is a exact copy of the romanian Calush, at one point it even uses the romanian music.
>there's no vlachs in moesia
you realise that before slavs split the vlachs, both north and south of danube was inhabited by vlachs mainly?
>>60999258
Oh, that's really nice. Not many people like Serbia. Being a Serb may pose a problem sometimes too, we're not exactly well liked.
>>60998888
No matter who you talk to. Country or non-country, culture only later in history became dependant on our border making. No one is saying Slovenia has no culture, or has no culture because it's small. It's hard to have our own cultures when we're small countries. We're bound to accept influences from larger cultural centres.
The thing is, people here equate "I know jack shit about X country" with "X country has no culture", because everyone here would rather pat himself on the back, reassured that he knows something than admit that he doesn't, and still has much to learn. It's when you apply it and defend it fervently. Simply admit that you don't know, with or without the will to learn more about it, when you reach that threshold of memes and you know that you're certainly entering a shitfest. Save yourself some time
>>60999382
it is true, we hate you, you are horrible people and deserve all the misery you bring upon yourself.
cheerio.
Requesting Romanians to join us in here for a special /int/ edition: >>60999061.
>>60999164
You are obviously slow so let me try again; you were implying that Slovenes, since they didn't have a country till 90s cannot have a rich culture, so I asked if that means that there is also no catalan or bask culture since they still dont have a country. Get it?
>>60999359
i read some comments from bulgarians in that vid and they call the autistc cucks from the begining with the masks rusalii and kalushari, so it might be something vlach, but there's no vlachs in the balkan mountains
only in the very north of bulgaria on the border of romania
>>60998935
>implying that people would know what the fuck the artificial state of italy is if there weren't 120 million of you shitskins all over the world
>>60999382
Actually every single guy who I know that likes Serbia only does it for
>le remuv kebab xddddd
meme. I'm not one of them, I like you guys because of your lifestyle and for the fact that for some reason I always have a familiar feeling when I'm in Serbia. Also, the country is beautiful.
Norway because they invented teleportation and time travel, I like sci fi things and Norway was something I felt since the day I was born.
>>60999434
Like I have already said, i know what you mean moor.And I dont care what others have or do not have, I comapred the culture of the historically non-existent country of Slovenia
>>60999446
yes rusalii and calushari are romanian tradition.
ofcoruse that today vlachs from balkan countries are very small number, they were assimilated during over 1 thousand years
>>60999359
vlachs were all over the balkans
vlach just means a latin speaker from the balkans, not romanian
there were vlachs in greece, serbia, albania etc
>>60999513
>slovenians can't even fuck themselves into relevancy
l m a o at ur nation f a m
>>60999600
>vlach just means a latin speaker from the balkans, not romanian
Vlach meant a carphato-balkanic romance speaker(romanian-aromanian plus the dialects).
In Greece and Albania they are aromanians, in Serbia&Croatia&Bosnia there existed mauro-vlachs,krko-vlachs, in Bulgaria megleno-romanians and romanians.Evne in Moravia existed moravian vlachs that migrated from Romania, same for the vlachs from Istria etc
STOP ARGUING ABOUT THIS
>>60989223
Anywhere if its by the Adriatic coast
1. Croatia
2. Greece (any other sea)
3. Montenegro
4. Albania
5. Zlovenia
>>60999741
thats the map of today, with the vlachs from balkans assimilated
>>60999431
Expected no less from a Croat, thanks for the kind words. The 'love' is mutual.
It's funny how a whole country's national identity is about hating Serbs. But enough about that, let the others fight in the thread in peace.
>>60999517
Yeah, we don't really like the 'love' they give us. Muh removers...we didn't want to kill. We're not proud with what happened in the '90's, but we will not bend to accusations. It turns out that we were the only ones killing in the wars, and how everyone is good and kind except us.
>>60999573
>yes rusalii and calushari are romanian tradition.
yeah i looked it up, maybe those cucks up north got it from the vlachs
wikipedia said something about a secret romanian society lmao
>>60999741
Half-related, but I heard an interesting thing and I want to know whether it's true or nah.
Gheorghe Hagi was an Aromanian?
>>60999816
romanians confirmed for slavs
>>60999827
>It's funny how a whole country's national identity is about hating Serbs
Serbs believe this
>>60999573
>romania strong
>we wuz kangz n shit
>but then we were ottomans
>then we wuz kangz n shit
>then we wuz soviet and shit
>now we are gypsies but we used to be kangz n shit
you got cucked by bigger powers but you were kangz n shit
>>60999661
sorry that we aren't r-selection based
>>60992864
>Slovenia on the other hand is not in the Balkans, as evidenced by our superior quality of life stemming from our decidedly non-oriental mentality.
100% ITALIAN
>>60999828
they didnt got it, they already have it.They are the vlachs from Bulgary, wahts left of them
>>60999833
Hagi was born in Săcele, Romania, from an ethnic Aromanian family.[9][10][11]
>>60999873
map doesnt show the slavs, but the expansion.It only shows the vlachs,hungarians and the limit of the empires plus maximal expansions.
>>60999998
My life in a nutshell
>>60999998
Splendid digits.
>>60999827
I think our fate is kinda similar. We lost a bunch of ethnic Hungarian territory after WW1, and we're still blamed for what happened. You guys lost a bunch of ethnic Serbian territory after Yugo collapse, and still blamed for the happenings. Even though Croats and Bosniaks made massacres as well, but those were silenced by the Western media.
>>60999881
Stobit guys.
>>60999881
You hate us infinitely more than we hate you. Seselj is the only one who mentions Croatia these days, no one else gives a shit about you, while we are in your newspapers, TV and websites daily. It is a part of Croatian pride to be hateful of Serbs and Serbia
>>60999956
Thanks mate. Really interesting.
>>60999956
>they didnt got it, they already have it.They are the vlachs from Bulgary
no
>>61000116
Well, I can only talk for Serbia, but atleast we don't hate you. It does linger in the back of our heads that you were always our enemies, but the Hungarians in Serbia are treated well. Because we live with you, we know that you're good.
Although, we do get pissed off when Hungarians claim Vojvodina and talk about Trianon and whatnot, not going to lie about that.
>>61000195
yes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V72qxbTu5ao
It also exists in isolated zones from UK, when it was under Roman Empire, as "Morris", probably from the thracian troops situated there
>>61000257
dont trust the hungarian
these people would destroy your country for Vojvodina.Visit hungary.posters with Greater Hungary at every corner.
>>61000282
>yes
no, it's bulgarians who are doing the ritual, not vlachs
>>60999953
>Slovenians wanting to be Italian
People here really don't know a single thing about us, do they?
>>61000350
assimilated vlachs*
>>61000257
Well, here it's controversial. The ultranationalists, who you mentioned, hate Serbians and literally wants your blood. Otherwise you're neutral for like everyone here. We still have an ethnic Serb majority village here, and two major cities that has Serb heritage (Szentendre and Ráckeve - Rác means Serb in older Hungarian), and they're treated well.
The only thing that impedes the further development of our relations here is that many people likes Croatia, there are even some opinions that states our "brotherhood". Which is funny, considering that their biggest national hero wanted to backstab us in 1848.
>>61000282
>probably from the thracian troops situated there
xaxaxa you're reaching a bit far there m8
>The name is first recorded in the mid-15th century as Morisk dance, moreys daunce, morisse daunce, i.e. "Moorish dance".
http://terradacicaaeterna.blogspot.ro/2012/02/calusarii-or-sacred-dance.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sImsZJ7cX0o
>>61000323
What are you talking about, mate? I think your image of Hungarians solely based on Magyar Gárda and Jobbik.
>>61000388
just bulgarians, actually
>>61000496
who cares where it was recorded first and who recorded it first?
see >>61000498
The Calush Dance was recorded by Romania at UNESCO as a pre-christian thraco-dacian ritual.
MPAЗЯ БЪЛГAPCКИ ГPAMATИКA!!
>>61000363
>implying anyone in the world does
>>61000128
I'm too tired man. I think the hate is 50/50
also your newspapers are as retarded as ours
http://www.kurir.rs/sport/fudbal/srpski-istoricar-dokazao-u-reprezentaciji-hrvatske-sve-srbin-do-srbina-clanak-1464697
read the comments
>>61000323
We're aware of the Greater Hungaria posters, we're also aware that on every friday on their most watched TV channel there's a talkshow which features Hungarians from Serbia who propagate Greater Hungaria. We're not blind.
But I do wish for our to peoples to be friendly.
Although, that's tricky. Because we like Romanians, you're the only neighbour who never once attacked us, but you and Hungarians don't really like eachother.
>>61000498
>>61000546
xaxaxaxa what the fuck this is just regular horo
there's nothing thraco-dacian in this, everyone on balkans does it
>>61000457
Well, it's understandable that it's controversial.
I read somewhere, that there are a lot of Serbs around Sent Andreja, albeit they're probably well assimilated by now.
>>61000563
It's a strange relationship between us, we get along well, because we understand eachother, but we still hate eachother because of the past.
Also, about kurir, nobody really takes that newspaper seriously. Kurir and other newspapers, are mostly full of cancer. They promote hatred and vulgarities. Obviously, the people who read them aren't too bright either.
>>61000580
>everyone on balkans does it
guess from who you got it :) say thanks
Xenophon ( Anabasis, VI,I 5-6) describes the ancient Thracian dance of the swords as such: "The Thracians started to dance, weapons in hand, on the sound of panpipes, while jumping in the air waving their daggers. At the end, after one of them overpowered another and all thought that the fallen one was dead: he fell with a great art".
>>61000563
>uskoči na odgovor drugom posteru iako mu nitko ništa nije rekao
>"ej, preumoran sam da se svađam"
a budale
>>61000733
Gornji kekan.
Ja mislim da se stranci uvek smeju, kad naprave klupko o Balkanu, kad krenu svi da se svađaju.
>>61000710
thracians lived in the entire territory of bulgaria and parts of northern greece, but they had nothing to do with horo
>The name (spelled differently in different countries) is cognate to the Greek χορός: 'dance' which is cognate with the ancient Greek art form of χορεία; see Chorea. The original meaning of the Greek word χορός may have been 'circle'. The course of the seasons was also symbolically described as the dance of the Greco-Roman Horae, and they were accordingly given the attributes of spring flowers, fragrance and graceful freshness.
Also, the word is present in Slavic languages and "hora" and "oro" are found in many Slavic languages and have the meaning of round (dance) and the verb 'oriti' means to speak, sound, sing which previously meant to celebrate.
>>61000841
IDIOT
I was not speaking of "HORA" thats a dance,.
Im talking about "Calushar" ritual.Hora is a different story.
>thracians lived in the entire territory of bulgaria and parts of northern greece, but they had nothing to do with horo
No, thracians lived up untill Lithuania,they had over 100 tribes.
>>61000710
>say thanks
why would I say thanks when romanians have nothing to do with it
>>61000959
You got it from vlachs.
>>61000825
>Gornji kekan.
A ti..
ti tu sam cmizdriš nešto pasivno-agresivno. pa tko je prvi rekao da vas srbe nitko ne voli, ti ili ja? ti si prvi počeo cmizdrit, valjda sam ja trebao doć na jebeni 4chan i reć
>no, Anon, people dont hate you serbs, peace and tolerance yaddayadda
jebeš to, ako kažeš da vas se ne voli, ok, ne volimo vas, nisam mama da te tješim
>>61000940
I'm saying that your retarded ritual is just hora, it looks exactly the same, there is nothing special
>>61000996
vlachs invented hora? xaxaxa what's next? vlachs discovered america?
TRANSITANIA
>>60989657
But all the Turks are in Germany, not Turkey.
>>61001094
are you idiot?The ritual has nothing to do with the dance hora, stop fucking changing the subject and accept your defeat already.Just because they hold their hands toghter at some point, it does not mean its hora.
this is hora:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foh_JXidSVI
this is Calush:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sImsZJ7cX0o
Nothing similar.
>>61000457
Our biggest national hero is not Jelačić. He is "one of". We don't celebrate him because he attacked Hungary but because he put Croatian interest above others. I'm sure Hungarians, looking back, can relate to that. We consider Hungarians our friendly neighbours and feel close to your people due to our shared and suffering histories. We also have the best opinions of you, among all our neighbours
>>61000940
>>61001204
>because he put Croatian interest above others
What did he do?
Albania is best state.
>>60989223
Croatia.
A Canadian can do real well there.
Hrvatska
>>61001243
He saw an opportunity to further Croatia from the Hungarian crown by putting his army at Austrian disposal, believing Austrians will, in the new "order" of things, give us equality in our affairs. Wouldn't be the first time the H*bsburgs promised us autonomy under Hungary and then placating Hungarians when they chimp out
>>61001230
those are the thracians from Bulgaria.They dont hsitorically have a name, so they are simply called Thracians and their country Thracia.
You forgot that dacians,getae,illyrians,carphians,messagetae etc were also thracian tribes
>>61001287
You know we kicked him last week, right? he was the prime minister for half a year.
>>61001398
Oh damn. How come?
>>61001395
dacians were thacians but with scythian influence
they spoke a similar language but they weren't the same
i don't know about illyrians
were they thracians?
>>61001389
fiction, all of it, no historical proof whatsoever.
if you claimed that same thing about Ante Pavelić, atleast there would be some proof in real world about your claim.
>>61001398
>you know....right?
No, he doesn't. Who gives a rat's ass what's happening here
>>61001530
>dacians
they were killed off by the romans. they do not exist. and neither do thracians.
>>61001449
its interesting, but complicated and of no interest to you. the point is his government is down, we'll have new elections, probably at the start of fall because nobody wants elections in the summer.
>>61001536
You're high as a kite or what? That's the most objective version of 1848 events. The dude saw an opportunity to administer a more autonomous unit, got his balls together and went to do it. Croats truly thought they could grt away with it
>>61001615
dacians were not killed by the romans,this is a 19th century myth created by hungarians.
>>61001530
they were the same people, described the same.sure they had also scythian influence.
>>61001285
If it gets burned to the ground
>>61001615
they weren't killed, half of our genetic make up comes from native balkanians AKA thracians
they were assimilated
thracians were described by Herodot as 2nd in number after indians.They are to balkans what nords are to scandinavians.
>>61001670
he was a soldier of the Habsburg empire and did what the emperor told him to do.
>>61001765
xaxaxaxaxa he meant the thracians living in in modern bulgaria, greece and macedonia, not the whole of eastern europe
>>61001812
who meant what?
why do you keep laughing like a fool?you are embarrasing yourself.
All these countries fucking suck. I would kill myself the second I was birthed in any of these.
How often do serbs chimp out during soccer games?
Definitely Slovenia
>>61001866
herodotus you dumb fuck
>>61000699
It's a fact that the most frequent surnames are ending with -ics in that area, but you're right. The only thing they kept is the Orthodox faith.
>>61001775
He was a commander of an army, you clown. A commander that led a separate front into Hungary. His failure to achieve goals is another matter. First you ask me what he did, I respond, then you negate it, I elaborate, and then you negate his role. Zero contribution. We're going to play reduction to absurd now? I respond with the above and you reiterate your previous negation or do another simplifying one?
>>61001923
Within Serbia, with Serbian teams, too often.
With foreigners in competitions, rarely.
TURKEY IS NOT BALKAN WE ARE ANATOLIAN!!!!!!
>>60989223
>Make thread on /int/
>turns into a /balk/ clusterfuck
>>61002034
Herodotus (425 BC) would write: "The Thracian people is the most numerous one of the world, except, of course, the Indians; ; the Thracians have several names, according to their specific regions, but their habits are more or less the same."
how fucking dumb are you?Just because other tribes were not called "Thrcian"it didnt meant they werent thracians.
>>61002171
>we wuz anatulienz n sheeiit
Btw you're right. Turks aren' Balkan people. They're Central Asians.
>>61002279
The usual.
>>61002301
What the fuck do you think the WORLD to him was at the time you autistic faggot? Do you think he meant the entire Europe? No. Thracians lived mainly in Northern Greece, Bulgaria, FYROM and parts of modern Romania (if we can consider Dacians as thracian)
>>61002444
>f we can consider Dacians as thracian)
dacians,boii,burii,carpi,getae were thracians too etc ther are over 100 tribe names
>>61002127
as i said, there is no historical proof. you could claim his goal was to open a Stargate in Budapest, it's just that he failed. the original question is still the same
What did he actually do