What is the best country and why is it Finland?
>>60912881
>No history
>No future
yeah no
>>60912881
Have you ever been to Finland?
>>60912881
Because a Finn created the USA with his swing vote?
>>60912934
No, but I really want to visit it
>>60912881
>one of the worst economies in Europe
>declining population
>sub-arctic climate an daylight hours in winter
>>60912925
no you, nigger
>>60912998
Finns are literal fucking niggers, lad
>"In wonderful savageness live the nation of the Fenni, and in beastly poverty, destitute of arms, of horses, and of homes; their food, the common herbs; their apparel, skins; their bed, the earth; their only hope in their arrows, which for want of iron they point with bones. Their common support they have from the chase, women as well as men; for with these the former wander up and down, and crave a portion of the prey. Nor other shelter have they even for their babes, against the violence of tempests and ravening beasts, than to cover them with the branches of trees twisted together; this a reception for the old men, and hither resort the young. Such a condition they judge more happy than the painful occupation of cultivating the ground, than the labour of rearing houses, than the agitations of hope and fear attending the defense of their own property or the seizing that of others. Secure against the designs of men, secure against the malignity of the Gods, they have accomplished a thing of infinite difficulty; that to them nothing remains even to be wished."
>le jelliness begins again
>>60913039
>le fantasy maymay
Is being a Finn a ... gift?
>>60913091
I'm afraid not, Pekka.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenni
>>60913115
It could be!
>>60913121
Yeah like those storyteller that used to write greatly about their hosts in the medieval times and shit, Urpo.
>>60913053
Why are you guys so cool
I want to visit the famous Finnish meme factories.
I have a grandma who lives in Finland, how do I find her?
>some say it's nice
>others say it's shit
What is it?
>why is it Finland
They keep babies in cardboard boxes instead of alligators where they belong.
Finn's spell Canada with a K so I hate them
>>60913202
Being cool but still warm is a perk tbqh. It takes thousands of years of evolving in four true seasons.
>>60913308
Nice shit.
i guess finland is decent country. i don't really have anything bad to say about it
I'm going to Finland for vacation in a week and I'll be staying with a Finn I met on here.
Will I be memed to death?
>>60913334
It's spelled with a K in most languages though
>>60913314
stupid faggot
>>60913334
K is a kooler letter.
k?
>>60913406
nope. memes are just memes so you won't get memed when they are just memes
>>60913406
He'll slit your throat while you sleep and wear your skin in a macabre attempt to be beautiful
I feel bad for the people who were not born finnish. But much love to you people. You are better people! Don't hate yourselves for that.
>>60913334
KÄNÄDÄ
>>60913508
>finnish humor
[spoiler]At least I hope so.[/spoiler]
>>60913538
>å
How's the summer heatenings in Funland right now?
We're getting grilled over here, send help
>>60912881
>tfw you'll never have a chance with anna because she lives so far away from you
why even live :DDD
>>60913334
O Kanada, mein Heim und Vaterland!
>>60912881
Why Finland ??
>>60913651
It's quite alright. It was rainy day here in the ARCTIC FUCKING CIRCLE!!! Can you believe that?! But it was also warm so the rain doesn't bother me. Weather has been good this week. +10-20 c
>>60913651
It's been raining for 2 days
>>60913651
>heatenings
hardly
>>60913121
Its literally a fantasy with no base on reality. He didn't know who fenni were and what they did. He basically extrapolated that they would be the same as the people in far south were rumored to be because they were far north and Rome was in the middle and the middle of known world, which in essence makes it pure fantasy.
>>60913202
they live up north, it's to be expected
Wonder what happened to the facts posted by >>60913314
>>60913334
Kanada please, you spell Suomi with F and other wrong letters.
>>60913673
Who is Anna ?
>>60913891
Deutschland and Suomi are pretty cucked by the world, nobody uses their real name.
>>60913673
>tfw you will never have a chance with anna even though she probably lives quite near you
Much more worse feeling.
>>60913919
Meme girl
https://www.instagram.com/annaemiliayy/
>>60913957
That's true for most countries though (Schweiz) and to be fair in the case of Finland it was officially called that long before it became a nation on its own and the Finnish language was codified.
>>60913957
Yep. I think only based Estonians with their Soome call us almost by our real name, can't think of anyone else. The rest use the Swedish name, not cool desu.
>>60914077
Fucking normies.
>>60914216
"Finland" originates from old Norse, not Swedish.
why is it that finns sound whiny and depressed when they speak english
>>60912986
>one of the worst economies in europe
Can someone explain this meme to me?
Who wants to visit Saint Petersburg?
>>60914255
>depressed
Because they are
>>60914077
>21
Her pussy's been fucked into oblivion already
>>60914216
Latvians and Lithuanians also, since they're basically Finnic slavs who got severely cucked
>>60914117
A-At least it's almost always a variation!(Switzerland ->Swiss->Suisse)
>>60914294
Me desu, just want to learn basic Russian first
>>60914247
Ah, I stand corrected. Can't say that we are any better with the country names, our neighbours include Venäjä (Russia), Ruotsi (Sweden), Viro (Estonia) and Norja (Norway, that's at least close to Norge)
>>60914297
Hol' up Sverige...
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO'S DEPRESSED
>>60914398
>Venäjä and Neuvostolitto
Pretty cute, are you actually just tsundere?
>>60913651
+20-30C
>>60913426
>>60913446
>>60913538
>>60913684
>>60913891
DELETE THIS!!!!
>>60913207
Then visit /mämmi/
>>60914401
FUG
:-------DDDD
>>60914077
>long faced girls
Just no, girls need to have some neoteny. Left one is objectively more attractive.
>>60914380
Hey, it'll be a pleasure for me to help you, I'm just bored.
>>60914228
at least finnish normies arent lower-class scum
>>60912961
Why do people always say "i really want to visit it"? Just fucking go and JUST DO IT
>>60914702
I'm afraid that I'll get stabbed. You guys hate swedes
>>60914685
we have no class at all
>>60914805
Just come to the southwest coast.
t. Fennoswede
>>60914685
I bet Helsinki will just be like any other capital in Europe, normie central.
No shitskins hopefully though.
>>60914294
Been there way back in the nineties and liked it. Should I come again in my summer holiday?
>>60914805
Yeah you'll be skinned alive. Don't come.
>>60914702
Will an American be welcomed in Finland?
>>60914587
No, fite me.
>>60914902
There are shitskins just like any other capital in Europe.
>>60914902
>no shitskin
Youll be disappointed. There used to be no shitskins. Now Helsinki is 1% shitskins. Still one of the best places in Finland though.
>>60914805
The swede-hatred is just a meme, we actually like you.
>>60914894
Can you even understand a scanian accent?
>>60914902
>No shitskins hopefully though.
There are both shitskins and shitskin-enablers. The best thing that could happen to this place is if someone would clean it with napalm.
>>60915042
Nigga we watch SVT. Swedish dialects aren't a problem.
>>60914805
Yeah better watch out, the moment you set your foot on this land you'll be killed
>>60915042
>implying anyone can
Its basically the same mongering that the Danish do.
>>60914534
It's just talking about diarrhea and shit and farts.
Ylilauta is the place where the memes come from. Right now it's a shit hole because the master brought the namefags back. And I mean like an hour ago.
>>60914902
Too late. Gypos are camped out in front of the train station always.
>>60914907
Yeah sure, why not? Tho a lot of have changed, we have dirty muslims and hipsters now .
>>60914986
>>60914987
>>60915026
>>60915032
>>60915042
>>60915070
>>60915092
So if I were to visit learning Finnish would be a must right?
>>60914805
nobody really hates swedes, we just don't like that swedish is obligatory in school.
>>60914930
it depends.
some americans are too loud and obnoxius/ ready to ask personal questions too quickly. others are nice and they'll ofc be welcomed.
>>60914930
MFGA!!!!
>>60915126
That's probably native English speaking immigrants or something.
Most younger people know and understand English.
>>60915112
Will I get in trouble if I bait them?
For the most part, I'll be staying in Lathi, anything noteworthy about it?
>>60915126
ofc not wtf.
most people are fluent in english, even though our pronounciation is usually a bit strange.
>>60915126
That would indicate native English speakers.
>>60915126
That's first language.
Pretty much everyone below the age of 50 speak English in the Nordic countries. On a side note, if you're going to places like Åland knowing Swedish would be more beneficial.
>>60913262
How do you not know where your grandmother is?
>>60915126
Nope, we all speak English. Some worse than others but still. English is often refered as the third domestic language. Of course it's polite to learn some basic hello's and so on, but not a must.
>>60915148
>we just don't like that swedish is obligatory in school
That's not really our fault, though. We haven't been in control of Finland for the last 200 years.
>>60915205
While I was there, the police were not shy about telling them to get a move on. But I have no idea if you're get in trouble for fucking with them.
>>60915339
it's not your fault, it's fennoswedes' fault :^)
they feel opressed for no reason
>>60915339
Yep, and we don't blame you for our mandatory svenska. We blame the fennoswedes.
>>60915322
>>60915191
>>60915221
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>>60915250
Thank you friends, I'm going next spring
>>60913891
I think it's the Swedes fault desu.
>>60913957
We used to call Germans Dutch but then that shit happened with Spain so we just call the Netherlands inhabitants Dutch now.
>>60915315
She moved to Finland after my mother's death, and not a word from her.
>>60915522
Presumably that's the way she want's to keep it
Perkele
>>60915611
voi vittu
>>60915607
I want to visit her, I want to show her that I'm not failure like my mother.
Mämmi
>>60915421
>mfw seeing people in my hometown vote RKP and spout fearmongering bullshit.
These folks will never leave the safety of their own town, but still want the rest of the country to know Swedish just because.
If only they were this invested in local politics instead, then they didn't have to cry about what the city council does.
>>60915770
Viina
>>60915770
>>60915784
Sauna
>>60915713
Have you tried genealogy? Although she have maybe changed her names but you should try to find her actually. Facebook post in finnish with your face and you finding your grandma and your mother etc.
>>60915779
Clearly I'm biased, but how is wanting to protect the status of their native tongue a bad thing? Is that not what Finns did after the split up with Sweden?
>>60915815
Umm, the guy I'm staying with invited me to go to the Sauna.
Is it common to go naked or are towels or speedos acceptable?
can someone make one of those ken-sama pics but for finland
>>60915929
Naked yes, towel maybe, speedos fuck no.
>>60915927
I don't se how their language is endangered when there's almost 10 million speakers right next door.
t. different homo
>>60915927
The thing is that they all speak Finnish. They should just assimilate completely or move to Sweden.
>>60915929
Naked. Maybe towel can be accepted, but no fucking speedos.
>>60915929
You're always supposed to go naked.
It's not uncommon to see some foreign visitors going with a towel because they're a little bit embarrassed. I find that really cute :3
But yeah, don't be a pussy, just go naked.
>>60916073
>assimilate completely
But pekka-san Swedish is an official language of Finland. By any reasonable standard they're just as assimilated as you are.
>>60915994
>>60916109
>>60916116
Alrighty, thanks for the advice.
>>60915205
>Lahti
Enjoy getting beat up at a hot dog stand.
>>60915929
Also, nakedness is not a big deal here. I've seen most of my friends naked, some of them being girls as well. And my parents, grandparents, relatives, strangers in public saunas etc. Just relax.
t. >>60916109
>>60915927
If they want to speak swedish as their native language, it's completely fine, but don't start bitching if finns don't have interest preserving their little circle jerk
>>60915927
It's not protecting it. It will live on through other means, but they haven't realized that being a Fennoswede is more than singing snappsvisor or eating crayfish. It's about grilling, sauna and watching icehockey, traditionally Finnish things. But for some reason these people are deathly afraid of speaking Finnish.
A bigger enemy is högsvenska. The garbage they speak in Helsinki. Young people move there and it eats up their dialects.
>>60912881
this meme is still a thing on int.
>couldnt qualify for the euros
what do they even do besides 'not be sweden'?
>>60914216
Baltics do too like he said >>60914319
But there is one other language which doesn't use the Swedish name. Suomi is Suòmaidh in Scottish Gaelic
>>60916225
Wew, at least my finnish friend will protect me :3
>>60916237
Also thanks to you, random citizen.
>>60916311
We lacked a nigger faggot midget this year, we have to find one for the next transgendervision
>>60916204
I know, but the 4% that speaks Swedish can also speak Finnish, so it's reasonable to call it assimilating since it's just a remnant of history.
>>60916398
Suppose you moved to Sweden and learned Swedish, would you stop speaking Finnish then? I reckon you wouldn't.
>>60914401
DELET
I have heard finns have the best educational system in the world, and literally no math
>>60916482
True. Lots of immigrants to Sweden from Finland in the 70's didn't even learn the language. Just started their own outcast communities.
However these weren't exactly the best and the brightest that left the country.
>>60916537
>and literally no math
That's literally retarded José, you just keep building the wall and mind your own business.
>>60916482
They haven't moved to Finland or been swedes to begin
>>60916577
fuk u
>>60916537
>literally no math
what did he mean with this?
>unironically coming to Finland
>unironically learning Finnish
I love my country, but you guys have no idea how hard you got tricked.
>>60916482
Of course I wouldn't, but it most likely wouldn't fend beyond 3 generations. By then my grand-grand children would be just muh heritage faggots who know 3 words of Finnish.
>>60912881
America!
>>60916482
I would speak Finnish of course as well as Swedish, but I wouldn't force feed Finnish to all the Swedes.
t. a different fingol
>>60914902
>normie central.
but finns are very diverse and individualistic
>>60916537
>literally no math
>>60915607
That's not nice
>>60915713
Good for you.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ONm72JG2_o
Is the song about the same stuff as the original one?
>>60916608
But the principle is the same. They're Finns that speak Swedish. Why would they want to erase their heritage?
>>60916646
>>60916701
You think what Sweden did was better then? We used to have a large Finnish speaking population. Bigger than what your Swedish speaking population is today and probably the last 5 decades. But almost all of them were forcefully converted. I honestly think it's a shame.
Fennoswedes aren't even Swedes.
>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1783413
They should just give up and assimilate completely. I know it's hard for them but it would be the right and respectable thing to do. The hours wasted on studying Swedish just isn't worth it.
>>60917003
Being a Swede is not just about genetics though. My genes are primarily Danish (Scania) but I consider myself a Swede nonetheless; mostly anyway.
>>60916633
Finnish is fun when you're a Fennoswede. It's like being a Japanese guy speaking English. Don't know the proper word? Make some shit up!
>Aurinkolainen
>Epälaillinen
>>60912881
Finland is the best because of qt Finns.
>>60916924
>I honestly think it's a shame
It's not. You move to another country, you assimilate completely. They are ought to speak Swedish and be productive members of society instead of falsely compelling the natives.
See, this is the thing with Sweden.
>>60916924
They're welcome to preserve their heritage, but don't force that shit to us
Being part of sweden is not something we reminisce as a positive thing. Swedish language is a relic from that time
>>60917191
No one was forced in Sweden though. Except the Finnish speakers that is. I think it's a shame that the cucks in Stockholm forced Swedish and not just that but THEIR particular kind of faggot Swedish on everyone else. I wouldn't mind a Finnish speaking minority in Sweden. It would strengthen the bands between out countries and that's something at least I'm positive towards.
>>60916924
In the end it's up to each individual what they want to do with their heritage. Just because I get some government papers only in Finnish I won't call it a holocaust unlike some people in this country.
Places like Österbotten won't become blatantly Finnish in one day or even a decade. And if some small town becomes "Finnish", it won't be because of MUH CULTURE, but because of economical reasons.
>>60914805
Du har fel, de flesta av oss älskar Sverige, åtminstone i södra Finland
Greatest ally
>>60917365
And to add to this. The stereotypical "Rich, cultural Fennoswede" is a myth by todays standards.
The average Fennoswede is some rural hick that drives Volvo and listens to Vikingarna. He gets his money from KELA like any other mortal Finn.
The ones with money have embraced both languages a long time ago. Because only fucking retards would ignore the Finnish language.
>>60917193
>but don't force that shit to us
I suppose I can understand that. I wouldn't want Finnish, or any other language for that matter (though I guess English sort of is) to me forced on me. Of course as a Swedish speaker I'm saddened by it, but that's completely emotional and ultimately irrelevant.
>>60917332
I wouldn't mind Swedish speaking minority either due to same band strengthening reasons, as long as they speak Finnish as well. But they are holding on to historic relics and compelling us to retain Swedish as one of the official languages, which is completely 100% unnecessary in my opinion, because literally everyone can speak fluently Finnish.
>>60917618
Even the people of Åland? I read somewhere that they largely communicate with the Finnish speaking parts of Finland in English.
>>60916828
I think so. Many German marches were "translated" to Finnish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RE-uTewAP5Q
>>60917332
I know that southern swedish people hate finnish people there. Those swedish are the loudest ones and they are ruining everything.
>>60917549
they still have the culture of pretending they're well-off though, i have a few salespeople in my family and also friends who work that sort of stuff in ostrobothnia and apparently you can put 10% extra on your price estimates if you're doing business with a fennoswede and not only will they pay it but they'll also not haggle like finns because you have to pretend you don't need to be concerned about such things if you're bättrefolk, even though you're obviously just a regular smalltown farmer
>>60916924
Forcefuly killing languages isn't cool. But still, if you move to a different country, you should learn the language. You can keep your original language at home/your peers iykwim, but otherwise assimilate to the society and a large part of that is speaking the societys language.
>>60914531
>O Kanada!
>Our home and native land!
>True patriot love in all thy sons kommand.
>With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
>The """True North""" strong and free!
>From far and wide,
>O Kanada, we stand on guard for thee.
>Dog keep our land glorious and free!
>>60917665
They're not the same as fennoswedes. They have a lot of special rights.
>What
Japan.
>is
Japan.
>the
Japan.
>best
Japan.
>country
Japan.
>and
Japan.
>why
Japan.
>is
Japan.
>it
Japan.
>Finland?
Japan.
>>60917665
Åland is xenophobic as fuck. Even towards Fennoswedes.
They know jackshit when it comes to Finnish and Finland in general.
>>60917822
To be fair they are part of Finland by a historical fluke
>>60917665
Well, it's up to you if you consider Åland Finland. But yeah you're right, they don't speak Finnish at all but they're extremely tiny fraction of our population. Should 5,5 million people learn the language of few thousand people or vice versa?
>>60917665
I've had some communication with the people from Åland in my job. When they call and speak Swedish, I reply with "do you speak English". Then 99% of the time the reply is "we can speak Finnish", in Finnish of course.
>>60917058
Do you feel a constant inner hygge?
Then your'e a Dane.
>>60912934
This kills the Swede
>>60917961
Doesn't mean Ålanders in general speak Finnish though
>>60917932
>Should 5,5 million people learn the language of few thousand people or vice versa?
As much as it pains me; no, of course not. But then again second languages is not uncommon in European education. We're forced to learn a second language (not sure why it's called that since our second language is primarily English), which is usually German, French or Spanish. How would you feel about being free to choose between a couple of second languages, including Swedish?
>>60918026
It's a mix. We're not like other Swedes though and our landscape is completely different.
>>60918096
I love Finland though, it's very beautiful.
>>60918284
>How would you feel about being free to choose between a couple of second languages, including Swedish?
The vast majority of people campaigning against compulsory Swedish want to replace it with exactly that system. Language learning is good as long as it makes sense and is interesting to the person learning. You can't force a teenager to learn a language they don't want to learn, so giving them a choice is likely to improve results significantly. Hell, it might even increase the amount of people learning Swedish, because currently most Finnish teens deliberately avoid doing so as a form of protest. It's a very silly system where everybody has to sit in classes and only a small percentage actually makes any effort to learn anything.
>>60918284
>How would you feel about being free to choose between a couple of second languages
There are people who are willing to study russian more than swedish. People who are more willing to learn german or french. Yes there are people who want to learn swedish because norway and denmark and iceland. Much easier to leaern those after swedish.
>>60918284
>How would you feel about being free to choose between a couple of second languages, including Swedish?
I'm for it. This is exactly how it should be desu, because a particular language isn't necessarily crucial (except for English) unlike common knowledge about maths, science and all that. It's largely up to you what language will play a big part in your life, hence the 2nd compulsory language should be discretionary.
>>60918473
This.
At the same time there is demand in tourism related jobs for people who can speak russian, german, japanese or some other ching chong languages.
>>60918473
>>60918669
Oh, also, learning German, French, Spanish, Russian etc. as a 4th language is not uncommon as it is.
>finland
>finland
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6SXU2G-juQ
>>60918473
>>60918669
>>60918706
>>60918748
Of course as a Swede I'm incredibly butthurt you don't want to learn Swedish but I think we're in an agreement here.
>>60919374
Forcing swedish is not the way. Nobody wants to learn it only if there is a reason.
>>60919374
Why though? I'm sure huge portion of Finns would be willing to learn it, and they should be able to do so.
>>60920149
Why should they though? It's a (even more) useless language with all of us being able to speak English very well already. I guess historical autism or something.
>>60920316
Well, you're our neighbor so every Finn will visit Sweden at least once in his/her lifetime and it's obviously easier to cope when you can speak it. And you're our trade partner so... Sure we get along with English but there are certainly languages more useless than Swedish.
>>60914702
Can't afford it. Send money please
>>60917813
Japan has awful gun laws and some freedom of speech issues
>>60922253
Literally 1 non-issue and 1 made up issue.
>>60922378
weeb
>>60922378
It's important. Don't become like swedistan.
>>60922378
>He thinks living in Japan is like in Chinese hand puppet shows
>>60915994
>>60916109
>speedos fuck no
That's pretty normal if you go swimming after though. Otherwise it's pretty weird.
Towel I've never seen.
>>60923365
>Towel I've never seen
h-hehe saunas are not p-pupular in swedes I'll pass
how do you Finns not get deathly anxiousness from being naked around strangers?
>>60923365
Speedos in sauna are for teenagers who are insecure about their dicks and shame them. Any adult who has gotten over the fact that you have nothing that they have never seen on you goes in naked.
>>60923709
Read above, your dick is not some top secret CIA weapon. Everyone has one, stop thinking you being naked is something special to them as they are not to you.
>>60923845
b-but I'm ginger
>>60923845
Very few people can be bothered to remove their swimwear when going to sauna after swimming and put them on after sauna over and over again in my experience. It's bothersome and unnecessary.
>>60924028
Speedos are pretty gay though tbqh lad
>>60923881
Well I have seen a ginger dudes dick hair in sauna before so no excuse. You are not the only ginger in the world. May get some bantz depending on the company you are in.
>>60924028
I will just assume you are 14 and are talking about your school swimming class.
>>60924112
Off by 9 years.
>>60923709
>how do you Finns not get deathly anxiousness from being naked around strangers?
You just are and enjoy the sauna. No need to stare at things.
>>60924584
>No need to stare at things
I-I never d-did
>>60924872
sure you didn't, swedebro :3
