Does Japan really need immigrants to be saved?
>>60766515
No, it's just natural depopulation after their huge economic boom in the 80s
either immigration or big improvements in efficiency
>>60766515
No they just need to bribe people to have kids.
i blame anime
But then who will pay for the immigrants once they get old?
>>60766515
They could solve it with fiscal policy but they won't because Keynesian economics is considered the devil.
i doubt the correlation between economic condition and birthrate because it was constantly decreasing even in the 80's, and uneducated poor people tend to have more kids than educated rich.
no, their manufacturing has already been shipped overseas.
they do need a healthcare sector though since its in decline. there are plenty of skilled labor in asia for this though.
>>60766659
its really only the post-war generation in countries, its a real problem in most countries
>>60766659
no one but for what ive seen here people immigrate, work, save some dough then come back and retire but their offsprings thats another tale.
no gaijin waitto piggu go homu!
>>60766727
>its really only the post-war generation in countries, its a real problem in most countries
please elaborate.
Have old people be honorabru and commit sudoku -> problem solved
>>60766515
>low birthrate because of economic conditions
Economic conditions my ass. If all those nips became millionaires they'd still be single and just buy toys or some stupid shit. It's the same if all the European posters here instantly got rich. That minecraft guy became a billionaire but he got divorced in a year.
The problem isn't the economy, the problem is Europeans are socially awkward manchildren who are incapable of managing a family.
immigrant song
>>60766515
Basically No immigrants desu.
Especially no more Korean and Chinese. Japan has already accepted more than 2 million Korean and 1 million Chinese.
However, limited number of good and love-Japan immigrants who can become 侍 or 鬼女 would be accepted. My wife is also european desu.
>>60766515
i have this crazy idea
instead of bringing in immigrants
they could have more kids
wew
>>60766515
Deflation point is wrong.
Deflation is a government policy choice. They can easily deficit spend to create demand and wage push inflation.
Deflation is not inevitable any more than needing immigrants. The TINA argument is bull in both cases.
>>60768461
That applies to most Americans, Jorge.
>>60766515
we don't need lazy immigrants
if we accepted immigrants, we will force them to hard-work like slaves just as Japanese do
immigration to Japan is not good for both Japanese and immigrants
>>60768461
Why would anyone want to have a family? Have you seriously thought of that even for a second?
>>60766515
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Pq-S557XQU
When robotics take all the transportation jobs immigration is going to be hard to justify.
Birth rate is in increasing trend after 2005. Birth number increased last year.
So the issue will be solved by 2030.
>>60768128
post war baby boom created the biggest generation in history. leveled off since then.
>>60766515
I will fix this problem in your picture by going to Japan and impregnating their women. I know that I can satisfy them because I have seen Japanese pornography and my dick is much bigger than those of the male performers. The real cause of the problem in your picture is that most Japanese men have embarrassingly small penises.
>>60766724
What the fuck happened in the mid 1960's to have that steep anomaly in birth rates?
>>60772649
Urbanisation
>>60766515
We can welcome except Russians, criminals, and terrorists
YEEEEEEEEEES IMMIGRATION IS THE WAY FORWARD
>>60766515
The just need more mechanisation, but redistribution of wealth because mechanisation inevitably goes hand in hand with great inequality.
>>60772931
>mechanisation inevitably goes hand in hand with great inequality.
yeah, but... NO.
>>60766515
Japan needs love
>>60766515
Europeans welcome
Asians get out
>>60773030
Let me illustrate it.
One man owns 5 robots that produce more wealth than they cost, taking the place of 5 employees.
If they continue to produce wealth ad infinitum, his income can only grow, while his number of human employees stays the same.
This means that he will keep growing, all the while taking the places of more and more potential employees.
This is not a bad thing if you have a great shortage of potential employees, but only if you somehow redistribute the wealth so one man does not grow infinitely rich.
>>60766515
no thank you
migrant go to usa
get back japan
>>60772880
Listen to the Swede. He knows what he's talking about.
>>60773280
>Asians
>various people
>e.g. Indonesians, Taiwanese, Russians, Indians...etc
>>60773234
nah, the more his incomes and production grows the more he needs employees in other places.
Also, you're just watching at the scale of one business, not society as a whole.
More mechanisation does lead to some inequality, but that's temporary. The jobs just move and change.
Of course adapting isn't fun, so let's just say it's the worse thing ever that will make inequalities bigger.
>>60766515
>low birth rates because of economic conditions
And that's bullshit.
>>60766515
Japan probably needs immigrants to grow according to liberal paradigm of material well-being and GDP/capita growth but Japan must never accept influence of High Finance Jewry in matters of border policy if it is to maintain what remains of its Kokutai and to preserve character of Volksgemeinschaft.
I for one think many of these problems could be solved by somehow cutting benefits for the elderly and focus on policies that allow people to work longer and die sooner less painfully.
>>60774824
>Japan probably needs immigrants to grow according to liberal paradigm of material well-being and GDP/capita growth
No, that's exactly the point: immigration from the third world -decreases- your GDP per capita
>>60766515
That diagram looks like a slow spiral down a drain pipe, not a flourishing civilisation
>>60769197
Because sex [=procreation (=passing down your genes)] is an instinct encoded in all of us by evolution?
>>60774860
Maybe you are right, either way Japan does not need influx of racial foreigners. Zaitokukai and so on need to recognize fact that Japan and ROK are both exceptionally lucky in this day and age to have such homogenous population and be thankful for having such relatively small ethnic problems.
>>60774860
Japan's neighbouring countries are in the 1st/2nd world (Don't count Russia). Then, Indonesia and Malaysia are developing like them too.
Manual labor will be the task of robots, not immigrants.
If AI or high robots become more popular, all developed nations except Japan will be in trouble become of unemployment.
However, Japanese society is underhanded.
It means that we Japanese will be able to be compatible with more robots and AI.
A Japanese Minister of Welfare and Labor said lately on a TV program . What's more, he added;“That's why Japan should accept refugees.”
>>60775141
Those who would have incentives to come to Japan given hypothetical open border policy (if Japan were to refuse welfare benefits for foreigners) would be either those endowed with high skills or those who would can provide cheap lower skilled labor for service sector (such as nursing staff staff) and labor intensive manufacturing. For example many mfgs use 研修生 already.
>>60775191
miss spelling
become of unemployment→ because of employment
Just let robots take care of the elderly.
white people welcome to japan
「rafugee」 are not welcome
>>60775191
sorry, important mistake;
Japan should NOT accept refugees .
>>60775283
Neither should be allowed. White expats are fucking scum. Have you ever interacted with any? You should try when you get the chance.
>>60775191
>What's more, he added;“That's why Japan should accept refugees.”
That seems to go against everything else he was saying
>>60775328
lol
>>60768504
You had a child yet?
Large families are incompatible with developed societies.
>>60775328
>t. English teacher
Japan needs to make robots to handle this. Then they should make them cheap but high quality and sell them to America so I don't have to work either.
I dream of a future where I can masturbate all day while Japanese robots do everything for me.
They are already too much in that small island, so no.
>>60775763
No I'm not you somali socdem faggot how about you take that coon snake and point it somewhere else huh how about that ever thotta that ya didgeridoo
>>60766515
I don't want Japan to be like your country m8
>>60766515
I hate how those kind of cycles NEVER account for how the job market is shrinking faster than the population anyway, and flooding with foreigners does nothing but create a larger yet poorer consumer market that can focus on nothing but necessaries due to its empoverishment.
I can't rightly believe that the fools who make them don't realize this.
>>60768504
If I liked Japan, would you accept me?
Diversity was mistake
Multiculturalism was mistake
Immigrant was mistake
>>60777234
hello tourist
please spend money
>>60777234
That doesn't matter to the netouyo. They'll call you parasite (or something else) whether you like Japan or not. They're insane.
>>60776129
>Japan needs to make robots to handle this.
Let them bet their future on technology that might prove unfeasible!!!
>>60777339
Oh...........
>>60774926
Yes and no.
Sex is, reproducing is complicated.
Basically the less your life is threatened the less you'll reproduce, it's also determined by how long you tend to live.
It's one of the reasons why rich people tend to have more sons than daughters, and third-worlders more daughters than sons. There's a higher chance for to get impregnated and a less chance to impregnate somebody else, so in hostile environment the chance of having a daughter is higher.
At least, that's what most studies tend to tell us.
>>60777105
>huh how about that ever thotta that ya didgeridoo
Are you western expat or proxy?
>>60777602
>>60777339
Isn't it not such a crazy idea for ROK and Japan to have good relations but to keep the constitution of each country's racial characteristics intact
>>60777777
>>60777777
WORST GET EVER
>>60777777
checked
>>60777777
WHAT
A
FUCKING
WASTE
>>60777777
>>60777602
Here is an example of the net right (netouyo). It shows they're nasty.
>>60777786
I know English because I studied in ZOG America for a while. Is that so hard to believe?
>>60777777
I`m pretty sure you can impregnate anyone with these numbers though
>>60777777
Of course it's a French shitty get
Why doesn't the government just pay for people to have kids?
>>60777777
Oi
>>60777777
nice
>>60777882
They have subsidies but they are nowhere near enough
>>60777777
Bravo, no memes
>>60777835
>>60777842
shit. my first and probably only ones I'll ever get...
SUDOKU
>>60777777
Ne les écoutes pas ils sont très bien ces nombres
>>60777777
dumb frogposter
>>60777339
What's a netouyo?
>>60777777
WROST
GET
EVER
>>60777777
câlice de marde
They need the last generation of japs to be dying in nursing homes tortured by somalians for recreational purposes when no ones looking or jews will never be safe
>>60777777
sauce for your claims? Its ~50/50 m/f almost everywhere
>>60766515
robots will save us from the third wolder scums
>>60777777
fuck off french surrender nigger monkey
go blow up some people arab monkey shit
>>60777777
>There's a higher chance for to get impregnated and a less chance to impregnate somebody else
wat
>>60777928
Japanese /pol/.
>>60777953
They are coming whether you like it or not
Blame smart phones for showing your average shitskin how good europe is
>>60777928
Japanese internet rightist
sort of like dumb bits of /pol/ but if you replace jews with chinks n gooks
>>60777777
>that's what most studies tend to tell us
post them, I wanna read about it
No, Japan is fine. This is only a phase.
>>60777777
you make 0 sense
>>60777953
I think it's too late………
You can't kick them out if they already live in your country
Just don't let them in
>>60777953
What will you do when AI asks to get paid?
>>60777928
Japanese alt right racists on the internet that decry Korean and Chinese all the time. They are either mentally retarded or severely schizophrenic.
>>60778243
Does cultural apropriation of japanese culture also trigger them?
>>60777928
The net right. They're not only irrational but ignorant about foreign countries, politics, economics and so on.
In short, crazy people. They should be called shitposters or flamers.
You might think they're typical Japanese people, but I'd hate you to consider them normal.
>>60778364
Nope they are only interested in spitting on Korean and Chinese, and denying warcrimes
>>60772649
that's because of a superstition which stems from a traditional sexagenary cycle. in short, it was said that women born in the year would have a harsh personality and can't marry when they grew up, and so people refrained from procreation to avoid having female babies. lots of japanese people were still superstitious in that era.
>>60778193
Maintaining robots cost money. They gonna have to pay for their existence or deactivate.
>>60778193
>IA on strike
>>60777234
>south korean
>immigration to japan
>>60778542
they when they build themselves and take care of themselves
>>60778542
Unless they learn how to maintain themselves or create others like them
I wish Japan will import their immigrant from Indonesia instead from random ooga booga country
>>60777777
Kill yourself my man.
>>60778629
indonesia is ooga booga though
>>60778696
No, we're friendly with Japan
>>60778575
To be honest, Russians are more dangerous for Japan than Koreans. They cause terrorism (by Russia's support) and take a region of another country over. Also, little people blame them even if they do something wrong.
>>60778721
doesn't change anything
>>60778788
We'll behave well in Japan
>>60778575
But Japan > Korea. There's not a single reason not to go if the citizenship was given to you.
>>60778606
Then we'll just use dumber non-sentient robots.
>>60778483
What do they think of Viets?
Japan is already overcrowded as shit. They don't need immigrants.
>>60768504
>侍 or 鬼女
>samurai or ogress
Really?
>>60778721
In Japan Muslim tourism is popular, and Japanese travel industry needs Muslim customers.
>>60778807
Isn't Japan as a whole extremely xenophobic? I mean, they don't even give decent jobs to foreign citizens (which IMO is absolutely great, Japan is one of the few sane nations left), I would imagine it is even worse towards Koreans and Chinese due to past history.
And South Korea is extremely rich itself, why would you migrate?
>>60766537
If that is true why don't America and the EU have millions of Japanese 'economic refugees'?
Please, come hang out with us Japan ;-;
>>60779020
>South Korea is extremely rich itself
Compared to Bulgaria? We aren't talking about Bulgaria.
>>60779020
>give
>job
Gordon Gekko-marxist here! A job is just a commodity on a market. If you manufacture pokemans, and earmark 10% of the pokemans produced to "the select few" who will get a hefty discount, then your business will be hurt.
>>60778808
According to them, all Asian countries and their citizens except for Korea and China are pro-Japan because Japan liberated Asia from evil whites, so they would say they like them since they love Japan. Also they would especially prefer Viets because they dislike China as them.
The women need to realize that you can't be shallow, vapid, materialistic cuntlords and still expect men to give a fuck about you
>>60779205
>materialistic
Yeah, because producing and getting stuff has never lead to any good, Pol Pot!
>>60779020
>Isn't Japan as a whole extremely xenophobic?
Oh c'mon. We're tolerant enough to joke "white pig go home".
>South Korea is extremely rich itself, why would you migrate?
It's the same reason as you guys migrate to a country in EU.
>>60779141
>liberated Vietnam
>caused a famine due to mismanagement worse than the French
>lost anyways so control reverted back to the French
>cue 20 years of unending bloody warfare
What? How can they be this ignorant?
>>60779020
They are in need of more workers recently thanks to the economic boom. Japanese companies were hiring foreigners especially Koreans because they are better at English than the natives while being able to pick up Japanese relatively fast compared to Westerners. Idk if this is still the case, but I read some articles about it few months ago.
>South Korea is rich
This is an extreme capitalist country we are talking about, where the riches get richer and the poors get even poorer everyday.
>>60779118
Coming from fucking Finland with it's -1% growth and 10% unemployment, kek.
>>60779137
What's your point here? I said that there are no prospects if you're foreigner in Japan, which is true. I mean, I'm not saying you can't make it there, but it's extremely unlikely.
>>60779335
I'm not saying you're outright racist or anything, it's just that you value your culture more than others, and as I said, for me, that's the right way to go.
>>60779372
Ah, didn't know that, thank you for the info.
>>60779141
Some of the immigrants steal so much that japs have to put up Vietnamese signs in shopping malls to tell them to not steal. Literally mexicans of Asia if you ask me. I'm so ashamed.
>>60779364
japs before living vietnam when they knew the war was a lost cause appointed independentists to key posts in vietnam, they knew what would happen.
>>60779619
Over here too, a shame
>>60779364
They immediately turn a deaf ear to whatever damages their glorious Japan fairytale and label it as anti-Japanese propaganda.
They are all retarded and mentally ill
>>60777777
Niceu digitu
>>60779372
t.Needy
>>60778483
>retard detected
>>60779067
Seriously though how come we never get any good refugees? Can't we blow up somewhere nice?
>>60779619
That kind of sign would be usually seen where foreign labor live concentratedly. Not unique to vietnamese. Never mind
>>60779619
>Vietnamese immigrants in Japan
>forced to learn Chinese characters like their ancestors
>>60766515
we are full
>>60780752
I'd rather use that system desu. Roman alphabets are so lame.
>>60781155
Studies show countries that have writing systems based on logographs have small dicks.
>>60766515
Wouldn't the population decline help with career opportunities?
Better wages at least
>>60781240
That would've been the case if there still were a strong market for Japanese goods overseas.
>>60773234
This, like most stupid posts about economics, is rooted in the fallacy that the economic pie is of fixed size and composition; that one man can gain only from another's loss, that demand for a commodity will never collapse.
>>60781028
*Aussie shit*
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