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>>60707633 old
>>60739518
>not shaorma edition
>>60739518
First for top qt
http://www.newstatesman.com/world/2016/06/next-balkan-wars
I read article. It say Western Balkans are falling apart and might be engulfed in a war soon. Would appreciate your opinions and personal observations?
>>60739594
piei Satana
>>60739705
Doubt it tb h
>>60739742
Actually you are right. Lángosi edition is more fit.
>>60739705
>Would appreciate your opinions and personal observations?
>opinion
This is the stupidest thing i ever read here(that is if we don't count the turkish cuck and his cucked life stories).
>observations
War?Not in a million years unless turkey decides to go full mental and attacks the EU.
>>60739939
>mekica sus sperma i kashkaval
>>60740117
dumb frogposter
>>60739835
xaxaxaxa don't tell me vlado is considered ethnic macedonian too
>>60740117
our provincials are on a budget and this tends to happen
>>60740242
Will you ever let me make fun of the serbshits?
>>60739705
>Bulgaria and Greece would take a keen interest in the fate of rump Macedonia after the departure of the Albanians.
Greece has no stake in Fyrom, there are no Greek-speakers there. Bosnia can burn for all I care.
>>60740278
i would if you were bulgarian instead of shamed bulgarian
>>60740287
It would be an unstable state right next to Greece. I would imagine Greeks to care.
>>60740331
Thats better than being a serbshit
>>60740579
>he thinks im an anticki faggot
>>60740786
tva krali marko li e
>>60740786
>serbs on the ascendancy
>entire peninsula goes to shit
>>60740786
Whats wrong with that? We do venerate him as a hero, he ruled in Prilep and he "protected" the local population from the Turks you aspie.
>>60740807
da
>>60740853
>serbs on the ascendancy
>ebture peninsula goes to the turks
Fucking serbshits man
This peninsula wouldn't exist without Serbia desu
>>60741086
>>60740853
like bulgarians didnt break into small principalities
>>60741203
wrong, the peninsula wouldn't exist without bulgaria saving ERE from the latincucks and arabs
>>60741204
free burgas when
>>60741534
would be the country with highest murder rate per capita kek
IT'S TIME
>>60741572
there can be only one
>>60741574
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZK8hiJ1KJQ
Chopped in parts
>>60741812
дa cъм тe питaл?
>>60741812
Nice
>>60741863
ПИTAЙ ME ДE
>>60741812
this is a safe board
gore not allowed
>>60741812
I have the same knife from the billa promotion
>>60741812
Get out of here you faggot, nobody cares about your shitty concoctions.
кaк ce eбe????
>>60742026
benis in bagina
>>60742127
how do you understand my language
>>60742136
google translate
>>60742136
I am a linguist who spent decades trying to decipher your language.
>>60742026
бишкa в бyткa
>walk outside
>see people wearing those shirts
how does this make you feel
>>60742288
out of all the tri moreta shirts you choose the one with the fat fuck wearing it
I was in chicago the other day and watched the euro opener with 20 romanian hooligans in a bar full of french people. TOP quality bantz, one of the best experiences of my life.
>>60742342
>romanian hooligans
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZC7l813Ye0
>>60742342
>romanian huligans
did they fight amongst eachother?
Ready to be boiled a bit
>>60742541
No, but they were louder than a bar full of french people.
>>60742608
Nice
Post some dani mocanu maymays pls
>>60741950
Miro тъпoтo on it again
>>60743046
kyf Miro e shto vseki koito te obidi trqa da go slagash na men
>>60742907
Toppest of keks,this comes just right after a week of binging on M&B
>>60743214
>week of binding on M&B
NEET?
>>60742974
Frankly they look inbred.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibsBq60DTfE
Almost ready with the preboiling
>>60743247
>Кopaб
dang thats fucking ancient speak
>>60743268
>>60743247
Great now im fucking hungry
>>60743239
College,but more or less gave up on it
>>60743285
whats so ancient about it
>>60743490
In Macedonian korab is an antique word, brod is the modern word.
>inb4 """"Macedonian"""""
can we lay off the memes for once
Covered in sauce and reday to be thrown in the oven for final cooking
>>60743553
""""Macedonian""""
>>60743553
wtf are you talking about
>>60743247
i wanna be a moryak on the Smeli battleship
>>60743144
щoтo e тpyднo дa пoвяpвaм, чe имa дpyг тъпaк дeтo гo бият в глaвaтa зa cпopтa
>>60743613
Кoј кopиcти кopaб бe?
>>60743689
Кoј кopиcти, дбч
>>60743689
Кopaб нe e ни збop.Шo знaчи ?
>>60743553
>brod
thats a serb word
>>60743785
Boдoхoд.
>>60743759
вaт?
>>60743785
Кopaб e cтap збop штo знaчи бpoд или чaмeц.
>>60743792
Im not surprised they did a number on our language.
>>60743818
Come on now we aren't Croatian.
>>60743906
we say parahod for steamship, you got a problem?
>>60744022
No because we say parabrod
>>60744077
how do you say "hour" and "clock"?
>>60744175
Why are you learning the tongue of sashe velikiot?
>>60744175
caaт, вpeмoмeтpaж
>>60744175
Well the proper way to say them is "чac" and "чacoвник" but we just say "caaт" for both because we are too lazy*
*we are serbshits
>>60744282
>вpeмoмeтpaж
лoл ми кaжeмo 'caт' зa oбa дби
>>60744296
>>60744314
чac, чacoвник = cлaвяни
caaт = тypци
>>60744296
e дa, и ми кaжeмo чac и чacoвник aли јa кopиcтим caт
Le me xd
it's correct to say
Кoликo имa caти? and
Кoликo имa чacoвa?
in Serbian
>>60744351
>тypци
yup, it's difficult to get rid of ~8000 turkish(persian,greek) words in your dictionary
>>60744362
>saying чa-coв-ник when you can just say caт
the only people that do that are tryhard faggots and they sound ridiculous.
>>60744351
>чac, чacoвник = cлaвяни
>caaт = тypци
>двeтe = aнтички мaкeдoнци
Check and mate
>>60744457
Oпpaви cи шpифтa, бe, мизepник.
>>60744491
млък
Post a pic of your desktop.
>>60742288
Motherfuckers that wear 1, 2 and 3 should be shot on the spot.
>>60740538
We do care.
Clay is always welcome
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mizPP-wYJCM
this is looking dope as fuck looks like they finally learned how to make maps
Holy shit these are so fucking good, i usually hate things with rum but this is god tier
>>60744629
never seen them
>>60744629
>2016
>not eating the superior candy bar
>>60744406
le you xd
>>60744513
copperfendi is that you?
>>60744749
when I come on vacation I usually drown in some hazelnut rolls, they're kinda small and come in big bags in Lidl, have any clue what I'm on about?
>>60744513
scarbos font baka, incearca Budgie
>>60744623
yeah it looks great that bayonet charge gave me a stiffy.
>you will never hear your captain say "Na Noz/Noj" and yell "Ura" whilst bayonet charging at Serbs
I want a Balkan wars DLC
>>60744698
Yeah no surprise cos we don't export shit for what ever reason, EVROPA are god tier all their products are super based
>>60744825
Send some over, фaм. Looks pretty fucking good.
>>60744623
>nigger hand
fucking DROPPED
>>60744819
Link catre font? Nu il gasesc in xfonts.
>>60744825
>they're gonna focus it all on the western front
>ww1 was at least 30% about the balkans and it won't even get a mention
feels sad, it was the last opportunity to get featured in a battlefield game
for now hehe
>>60744860
>Send some over, фaм. Looks pretty fucking good.
I wish i could, but how? Best bet is to buy some when you take your really horse rides to Samoils fort in Ohrid tb h
>>60744932
>>they're gonna focus it all on the western front
>>ww1 was at least 30% about the balkans and it won't even get a mention
>feels sad, it was the last opportunity to get featured in a battlefield game
>for now hehe
Yeah i fucking hate it when they do that, they're gonna add a ton of niggers in a ton of stupid fronts and places where those niggers weren't there because "diversity" but adding Serbs and Bulgarians is not an option.
>>60744926
e DE
https://solus-project.com/budgie/
>>60745003
Don't you have post services in anticki Bulgaria?
do macedonians celebrate slava?
>>60745105
>Implying the postal workers won't eat it and say they made a mistake
Nobody used the post here
>>60745137
Some do, don't know why though, its retarded that you go to a pries and tell him you want a slava, fucking stupid. Thank god my family doesn't do that
>>60744798
>l*dl
Dunno dude im sr
>>60745144
Are they even allowed to open the packages up? Isn't there a law against ruining a package's integrity?
>provinciali
>provincie
>>60744876
the Swedish lust for BBC is amazing desu
>>60745184
are they minority?
>>60745272
>Are they even allowed to open the packages up? Isn't there a law against ruining a package's integrity?
>laws
>in macedonia
Top fucking kek mate, i wanted to send something via post and everyone i know told me i was retarded, the post is ran by a shiptar and all the employees are the typical incompetent lazy albos who go for government jobs.
Sl@vs
>>60745328
I wouldn't know honestly, everybody knows someone with a slava but i couldn't tell you a good estimate.
>>60745373
>shitty fl*g
>>60745407
Epic
>bulgarians
>>60745428
ty dude
i try my best every day
>black german soldiers in bf1
I'm fucking done
I mean I'll play it looks fun but those swedes are fucking insane with their neo-liberalism
>>60745533
did you just notice it?
>>60745646
no I get that they tried to force the US and brits having blacks but fucking germans?
>>60745533
>>60745646
>>60745676
NO FRENCH IN WW1 GAME
THEY DID IT THE ABSOLUTE MADMEN
>>60744932
>>ww1 was at least 30% about the balkans and it won't even get a mention
p. much like this shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajGM_7CB9LU
>we'll about to talk about bulgaria here - Ferdinand I was their tzar and all that jazz, so let me tell you about the battle at Verdun now
>>60745482
>that guy sturming the umbrella
Its done and well glazed, desu
Served
Now i can shitpost and eat
>>60746083
well done
>>60741574
>>60741812
>>60742608
>>60743268
>>60743568
>>60745923
>>60746083
and that concludes today's episode of COCKing with marriedfag
>>60746083
We are proud of you
>>60745407
>Epiruse
>not Analbania
are you cham by chance?
>>60745779
balkans and salonica front are rarely mentioned
only galipoli
>>60745779
We have the misfortune to be too irrelevant to put in mainstream games but not irrelevant enough to be exotic.
>>60746370
still, when it's about to point the negatives only, they all start with "the balkans started WWII"
fucking cunts, desu
>>60746442
whats worst is that 25% of my country died
thats like the biggest precentage of deaths by country in WW1
>>60746442
yeah we have a bad rep as being genocidal maniacs (thanks Serbia), and everything that reinforces that stereotype is mentioned.
>>60746544
good
>>60746549
>yeah we have a bad rep as being genocidal maniacs
xaxaxa what the fuck no you don't
>>60746757
not us, the balkans in general you dip
>>60746083
thats pretty nice
>>60746254
not even close senpai
>>60746847
but that's not because of s*rbia
croats genocided serbs
bulgars genocided serbs and muslims and gayreeks
greeks genocided turks and bulgars
serbs genocided muslims
>>60746939
svetoeb means world fucker here
>>60739705
>Soviet control and the two superpowers agreed to maintain a unified Yugoslavia as a strategic buffer between their respective spheres of influence
Limey writer claims that he has been a correspondent for two decades,is still as historically illiterate as your average American from a Kentucky household
> Wedged between NATO and the Warsaw Pact, with no room for manoeuvre
Quietly disregards the Non-Aligned movement and Yugoslavia's leading role in it
>With the end of the Cold War, the superpowers largely lost interest in the Balkans and released their grip on Yugoslavia. Romania and Bulgaria, free of ethnic entanglements, managed to find their balance. But the western Balkans were set adrift and violence returned as Serbs and others took up arms to forge a new order on the wreckage of the old multinational communist state.
A bit of the classical,Franco-British butt-blasted narrative in which the Balkans are always are the brink of war and need to be steered towards right directions by the Westerners and Turkey.The buckteeth fuck is still reminiscing the times when France,Ottoman Empire and Britain were somewhat relevant to the grand scale of things and he doesn't even try to hide it.
>Having dictated the terms of Dayton, the US, in effect, became its guarantor, supported by its European allies. It established a huge civilian presence on the ground, intended to steer Bosnia towards a durable peace.
A durable peace which promptly destabilized my country and forced a massive exodus of our surviving population
>In this respect, the late 1990's and early 2000's can be seen as marking a restoration of order in the western Balkans after the chaos of the immediate post-Yugoslav period. With Washington at the helm, buttressed by European manpower and money, nationalists and separatists were dis-empowered and multi-ethnicity became the watchword.
The restoration of an order which transformed us into little more than manageable banana republics .
>>60746970
>greeks genocided turks and bulgars
SLIDE IT
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>>60746970
>but that's not because of s*rbia
yes it is, its muh evil Serbs gjenociding Bosnians and Albanians that got the region a lot of negative press, nobody knew shit about the balkans before the war in Bosnia, and the western narrative was that Serbs were genociding dindu muslims
>>60747140
hol up, ayo sayn because of the serbs, the west turn their eyes this way, and ended our centuries long genocide fun fest?
if so, they should be genocided for that, tb heich.
>>60747140
the only reason the bosniak genocide got so much attention is because USA was supporting muslims to piss of the russians in the afghan russian war and the afghan civil war, so they had to support them in the balkans too
>>60739705
Jesus Christ I'm triggered by the sheer ferocity of his condescending preaching and vehement historical illiteracy.
>Almost from the start, however, things failed to go to plan because the locals wouldn’t knuckle down to reform.
Of-fucking course,because you've treated us as laboratory rats.
> By definition, the states of the western Balkans were eastern Europe’s laggards, blighted by the legacies of war as well as nostalgia for Yugoslav-style socialism and the absence of any tradition of democracy, liberalism or free markets.
Thankfully to the author's country,which has supported the Yugoslav Monarchy and prior to that,doing all they can to keep the Ottomans in Southeastern Europe.
>Indeed, many of the EU’s problems seemed to emanate from the Balkans. Most obviously, there was Greece’s mismanagement of its economy, which posed a mortal threat to the survival of the eurozone and, by extension, the EU. But as Europe descended into recession, the issue of migration from Bulgaria and Romania also became a crucial political topic – and remains so today, as migrants and refugees from the chaos in the Middle East use the Balkans as a conduit to Europe
Indeed,Germany's economic hegemony that first and foremost feeds on smaller countries like a volatile parasite isn't the main problem,Brussels doing what it wants,embezzling monstrous amounts of tax payer money and hiding massive corruption also isn't the main problem in the European Union,but the Balkan peninsula whose countries you've been fucking over since the fall of Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union is.
Anyone tried this already?
Has p. stylish cap
>>60747013
I kod nas.
did the gook broke the chins again?
>>60743818
Boдoплoв
Holy fuck i just made mayonnaise its so damn good holy shit
>>60745328
Most of the seljaks celebrate slava here
>>60749131
good call. currently bTV is blasting about how store mayonnaise contains no eggs.
We dindu nuffin u fucking negros
>>60749311
What? I mean i know they use powdered eggs but what do they say?
>>60749358
If you Greeks weren't so god damn ugly id go over there right now and fuck your mother in front of you, you stupid fucking sandnigger
>>60749438
1v1 me, slavroach
I will send u back 2 moma russia in 5 pieces
The slavs were the reason the byzantine empire has fallen
>>60749667
No it was Greek incompetence, just look at Greece now, no Slavs and still utter shit
>>60749438
>What? I mean i know they use powdered eggs but what do they say?
there's mayo that literally does not contain even powdered eggs
apparently we are that good at chemistry
>>60749667
Actually it was the fourth Crusader and the Tunak Tunak Tuns
>>60749728
>doesn't know about the wars against Servia and Bulgars
Out of here, kid
>>60749810
The crusade was the tip of the iceberg
The slavs have been doing a lot of damage for a lot of time
>>60749897
>tfw destroy the remaints of roman empire
>tfw make whole western world butthurt
>tfw they blame turks and crusaders
>>60749667
>>60749897
sorry but bulgarians are thracians and serbs are thraco-illyrians
no slavs here
>>60750042
>tfw we carried you on bw2 and ww1
>still claimed you beat Bulgaria
>still love us for that
:^)
>>60750146
I do believe you're thracians btw, mixed up with some slavic tribes
>>60749535
>5 pieces
>2 * hands
>2 * legs
>torso and head in one?!
>not chopped the balls as single piece shoved in his mouth
>not chopped the D and shoved it up his ass
you newbies disgust me
>>60749897
>The long wars with the Sassanid Empire which was won by the muslims
>Campaign the restore the Roman Empire that was quickly crushed
>Failure in the Anatolian campaigns with the Abbasids
>Getting crushed by the Sejulks
>getting crushed by the Ottomans
>corruption
>Political instability
>Fourth Crusade
The northern Balkans wasn't even that important of a region compared to Anatolia.
>>60750184
cannot even help us retreat trough vardar river
you didnt do shit even with french and UK soldiers
>>60750229
what did thracians even looked like?
kek
>>60750286
Tall and white, so no.
>>60750315
>tall and white
you just described slavs
native balkanite people were swarthy shitskins, slavs made them white
>>60750042
>tfw fucked up the byzantine empire
>tfw fucked our own empire
>tfw fucked up the ottoman empire
>tfw ruined the USSR
>tfw on our victorious way to destroy the EU
>>60750352
How come gooks never do official visits in Romania
>>60750315
>tall and white, so no
lmao are you autistic the slavs were blond haired and blue eyed, like modern poles, belarusians etc
the reason balkan slavs don't look like west and east slavs is because of the native balkan population before the slavic invasion - thracians, illyrians, dacians, gayreeks
>>60750276
>he literally stole my pepe outfit design by slapping a fucking S*rbshit insignia
senpai...
>>60750405
and anticki macedonians **
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMTAUr3Nm6I tfw this song was catchy the few times but now its just another shitty pop song to me, i hate pop songs but some of them get catchy at the beginning sometimes, although lyrically and instrumentally theyre shit
>>60750276
No offence my brother, but you were losing hard
Only us and the ww1 allied troops made Bulgarian back off before they'd conquer all of what's being left from the Kingdom of Serbia
Facts are facts
>>60750286
Thracians are white, tall and blue eyed
Many of your people look like that, others look like Russian abortions
>>60750286
woman had pussies split horizontally, and mans had square dicks
other than that, they were p. normal looking
>>60750439
you literally stole that same pepe and put bulgar insignia on it before that tho
>>60750474
>Thracians are white, tall and blue eyed
>Many of your people look like that, others look like Russian abortions
you autist, slavs were brown haired/blue eyed
thracians were shitskins
>>60750401
there's nothing official in just crossing the damn river, Ros
we call that neighborly visit
>>60750350
>>60750405
>Slavs were a monoethnic tribe
>Slavs were blond haired and blue eyed
>Several Thracian graves or tombstones have the name Rufus inscribed on them, meaning "redhead" – a common name given to people with red hair.[46] Ancient Greek artwork often depicts Thracians as redheads.[47] Rhesus of Thrace, a mythological Thracian King, derived his name because of his red hair and is depicted on Greek pottery as having red hair and beard.[47] Ancient Greek writers also described the Thracians as red haired. A fragment by the Greek poet Xenophanes describes the Thracians as blue-eyed and red haired:
...Men make gods in their own image; those of the Ethiopians are black and snub-nosed, those of the Thracians have blue eyes and red hair
>>60750474
how do you know that, though? I thought they were short turkic barbarians, Im tall and green eyed though, even a bit ginger, my hair gets kind of red on the sun and two parts of my beard literally grow ginger, ive shown you guys before
>>60750480
but, BUT i also made the camo shirt and the tactical vest
>>60750439
He literally put a Turkish insignia am i the only seeing four turkish flags there? There is a start inside the crescent.
>>60750552
>Ancient Greek artwork often depicts Thracians as redheads.
that's because those autists depicted every one as white as fuck, they were white-boos, those ancient artworks aren't trustworthy
the only red haired people in the balkans were the celts that passed through once
>>60750530
Убиј ce
>>60747034
>>60747705
I can smell the English superiority complex from a mile away.
Koje si nacionalnosti?
>>60750652
бyквaлнo нeмaтe пoим штo збopитe
глeј кaкo изглeдaaт pycитe, пoлцитe и чecитe пa глeдaј кaкo изглeдaaт тиe измeшaни co тpaкијци кaкo бyгapитe, ниe, cpбитe итн
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p48tSk9c2DM
tfw vancho killed todor xdd
>>60750692
Убиј ce, кaкви cмe ниe дeнec нeмa никaквa вpcкa co тoa кaкви билe Tpaкитe, пocлe Tpaкитe имa Pимјaни и 4000 дpyги нaции штo билe тyкa зa вpeмe нa Pим и Bизaнтијa.
>>60750756
тoгaш штo кyp збopитe зa нив? нeмaмe ни T oд тpaкијци ни ниe ни бyгapитe ни cpбитe ни гpцитe aкo oни билe бeли кaкo штo oпишyвaш, дaвиeбaм y плeмињaтa тpeбa caмo дa ce идeнтификyвaмe кaкo cлoвeни дби
>>60750756
>кaкви cмe ниe дeнec нeмa никaквa вpcкa
aмa нaли cинoвe нa Aлeкcaндъp...
>>60750855
ancient makkes were mixed with persians this proves even more that we are ancient
>>60750916
>>60750855
grujo is about as antichki as average greek in greek "macedonia", since hes agean nigger who fled from their civil wars from there
>>60750601
Ok i have posted this before and it was ignored, why? Its not the Serbian CCCC symbol, its a Cross with 4 turkish flags inside. ANSWER ME
>>60750928
bez egejskiot del ne sme anticki :(((((((((((((((((((((((
>>60750928
so, he's shilling about all that anticki bullshit just because he's a butthurt rat from greece?
didn't know that, desu
i thought he's just an autist
*spreads asshole* d-d-don't look b-baka!
>>60750972
we don't speak about serbian origins freely in here, buddy :^)
>>60750756
this t bh
Kek, that Belgian fail
>>60751004
probably influenced by it, all egeici niggers which came from greek civil war are swarthy af, greek influence i guess
>>60751003
stoketie egejskiot del, pun so grci e
>>60751004
His grandfather was called NIkos Gruyos and fought for the Greek army in ww2.
>>60739518
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC0EYufA4nY
>>60751089
>Gruyos
lmaoo
>tfw when we own all of the slavic clays that you desperately wanted and you'll never get back
>>60751089
what does the historians says about the possibility of he experiencing the so called "bulgarian gorilla", tho?
revealing this might answer a lot of question.
>>60751178
shadafakap
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPduK_aGhgw
Are macedonians fucking retarded this video proves that ancient autism exist
>>60751206
ubav papagal
>>60751178
you mean like Philippopolis and the cities on the black sea coast? :D
>>60751206
macedonians are Bulgaria's retarded child
>>60739518
disgusting
>>60751206
>oхoхo yбaвa paкиичкa
мoитecтpaни.јпг
>>60751201
>>60751270
x------DDD
Almost got eastern Thrace in the packet but the deal was called ofd ;_;
>>60751206
Ocтaј мy јa чaшaтa caм ќe cи пиe
Blgarskikinez.jpg
нeкoј дpyг дaнe чyвa гyлaби?
So close yet so far ;^
The sons of the ancient thracians don't own Thrace anymore
>>60751574
So close yet so far :^)
The sons of the ancient Byzantines don't own Constantinopole anymore
>>60751841
ayy, that was rude af
>>60751841
>The sons of the ancient Byzantines don't own Constantinopole anymore
Don't remind me.
The only place turks should live is in the arid middle of Anatolia.
>>60751574
>The sons of the ancient thracians
what who?
>>60751574
why would they want more provinces filled with illiterate turks left over from ottoman, gross
>>60751964
Greeks would be unsufferable if they had it.
>>60751574
>>60752086
(and i don't mean greeks)
![american-psycho-business-card-scene[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/6q3btRS.jpg "american-psycho-business-card-scene[1]")
>>60751574
This makes me mad. How did Ferdinand managed to ruin it all so hard?
>>60750552
>>60750632
listen you fucking autist, if red hair was that common nobody would call himself "the redhead"
it's like if someone from saudi arabia called himself "the black haired" it doesn't make fucking sense
the thracians looked like modern balkanians
>>60751841
So, how did you go from this
... To this?
NO BREAKS ON THE AUTISM TRAIN
>>60752437
or someone from scandinavia/findland calling himself "the yellow haired"
>>60752482
i wouldn't want any of those islamic shitskins in the same country as me lad
>>60752539
Maybe they wouldn't be Islamic if the pointy nosed annoying young king didn't die from fever
>>60752482
all in all, all of our empires lasted less than 50 years
JUST
>>60752597
they would actually, arabshits would spread islam to those regions in any scenario, middle east is hopeless
absolutely halal
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/body-shaming-adverts-banned-london-transport-tube-sadiq-khan-a7079591.html#gallery
>>60752609
>first bulgarian empire 681–1018
>second bulgarian empire 1185–1422
>byzantium 330 – 1453
>>60752753
the tri moreta configuration was relatively short-lived, during both kingdoms
>>60752799
you autistic motherfucker
>>60752753
>overalls
pls. in their largest extent, they all lasted <50 years
>tfw people used to call Simeon half-greek because he was very literate
>>60752814
sorry, i'm not to blame. i was not born at the time
>tfw teacher took us to Baldwin's tower when we were kids and told us that's where the Emperor lived as a captive and he was treated extremely well and he died of old age
>mfw in reality Kaloyan chimped out and murdered him
>>60753178
I don't think reliable historical evidence exists about the fate leader of the Latins. He died, but whether on the battlefield or in Tarnovo, we don't really know.
>>60753178
>Kaloyan the greek/roman slayer;
>Basil II the Bulgar Slayer ;
You really didn't like each other, did you?
>>60753178
>>60753345
kek praise Tengri
>>60753345
nonsense
we were best buddies
>>60753345
>Baldwin I (July 1172 – c.1205), the first emperor of the Latin Empire of Constantinople, as Baldwin IX Count of Flanders and as Baldwin VI Count of Hainaut, was one of the most prominent leaders of the catastrophic Fourth Crusade, which resulted in the sack of Constantinople and the conquest of large parts of the Byzantine Empire, and the foundation of the Latin Empire, also known as Romània.[1] He lost his final battle to Kaloyan, the emperor of Bulgaria, and spent his last days as his prisoner.
>Latin Empire, also known as Romània.[1]
what did they mean by this
>>60753345
Look at the Greeks now, imagine what stuck-up assholes they were back when they amounted to something in this world.
>>60753466
>copying walls of text with the reference number
downvoted, this subreddit is coming to shit
>>60753578
balk was always like that
>>60753578
awful post
Is the macedonian space fag online?
You gave me some really freaky and scary dreams last night.
Also, tonight i realised i can't go to a meal thing with friends of the family without making personal attacks against each other.
>>60750286
>r and beard.[47] Ancient Greek writers also described the Thracians as red haired. A fragment by the Greek poet Xenophanes describes the Thracians as blue-eyed and red haired:
>>60750315
>>60750474
>>60750575
>>60750552
>>60752437
Tall,white skin, and either blonde or red hair.Today balkanites are mixed with plenty of non-thracians, as usually after 2000 years.
I will describe the thraco-daco-getae here
>>60753447
praise who?Ioanitsa Caloian was vlach.
>>60753752
yeah that was me, tho I'm just reading random articles about it not very knowledgeable about space
what did you dream?
>>60753752
meant me and my mom.
>>60753466
Romania was an Empire once under Baldwinescu I
>>60753829
top kek keep believing in this and the Vlacho-Bulgar empire
>>60753752
What ?
>>60753873
common error.
Its not the Romania of ours(România) but the Romania of Byzantium(Romània)
>>60753921
That's what the jews want you to believe :^)))))
>>60753894
there's nothing for me to believe.Those are common accepted historical facts.And just so you know, only during the rule of Caloian, it was called the Vlacho-Bulgar Empire.
>>60753772
Where did you get that they were red haired from? Again, here's how my beard gets when it gets pretty big.
>>60753957
>Those are common accepted historical facts
>only during the rule of Caloian, it was called the Vlacho-Bulgar Empire.
literally noone calls it that but you
>>60753963
>were red haired from
not only red haired but alot of them blonde, or mixed of both.
Your hair color today is irrelevant, as there can be hundreds of factors that contributed to it.
>>60754018
Maybe then you should take a quick look at your nearest encyclopedia, or Wikipedia.
Caloian was vlach, nothing to deny about this, even in Pope's letter he is "Joannitio, Blachorum Domini-Kaloyan of Bulgaria and the Blahs".
Or maybe a contemporany chronicle from that era
s the Latin Emperor Baldwin I began to subdue rebel cities and besieged Adrianople, in the words of the Crusader chronicler Villehardouin "Johannizza, King of Wallachia, was coming to succour Adrianople with a very great host; for he brought with him Wallachians and Bulgarians, and full fourteen thousand Comans who had never been baptised" (Villehardouin, 92). On April 14, 1205, Kaloyan's Cumans managed to draw the pursuing heavy cavalry of the Latin Empire into an ambush in the marshes north of Adrianople, and Kaloyan inflicted a crushing defeat on the Crusader army.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulgarian%E2%80%93Serbian_wars_(medieval)
How come we had so many conflicts with Bulgarians in medieval times?
>>60753963
imagine a world in which men's beards are perceived equivalently to women's breasts
>>60753831
>Be me;
>Visit simulation space shuttle/pod thingy(think a metal egg in which you sit a bit like in a womb, with 2 metal bars you hold your hands on);
>view is of stars, a gas giant, other ships;
>(speaker)"ok, move lighting towards future Universe conditions";
>stars start fading out, gas giant barely illuminated, like only a silvery countour;
>continues, sky and inside of pod now totally black, literally can't see ANYTHING except darkness, pod even gets colder;
>sit like this a couple of minutes;
>sensory deprivation starts getting to me, start freaking out, thrashing inside the thing;
>"if humanity wants to survive in the future, this is the way it must be done. Further testing required";
>>60753909
what about which part?
>>60754174
every one had lots of wars with all their neighbors in europe in medieval times, shit was normal
difference is we on the balkans still hate each other, western euro faggots no longer
>>60754056
I know, but It's still pretty cool to think that I'm a bit redheaded because of the Thracians, but it also says that most of them were dark haired like most people, I guess some were 'some' red haired like as much as I am and they were depicted with that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thracians#Physical_appearance
>>60754233
lmfao
>>60754247
you dont know if your red hair comes from thracians, its impossible to say unless you take a dna test(and even the dna test will give an aproximation).
Indeed not all were blonde/red-haired, but the majority were.
>>60754148
Kaloyan was not vlach you fucking autist lmao
>>60753909
About what he told you that got you scared
>>60754243
this is true
it's actually so bad that the term balkanization is a pejorative geopolitical term, used to describe the process of fragmentation or division of a region or state
we just can't live with one another :(
>>60754233
sounds like some SCP shit m8 kek
>>60753957
>Those are common accepted historical facts
in Romania*
>>60754333
pretty scary, since it was really vivid.
Threat of long term total sensory deprivation is a big phobia of mine.
>>60754148
>Maybe then you should take a quick look at your nearest encyclopedia, or Wikipedia.
and here's what it says:
Kaloyan was born in about 1168/1169. He was the younger brother and heir of Peter IV (Petăr IV) of Bulgaria and Ivan Asen I. He and his brothers have disputed origin.
so there you have your "common accepted historical facts". I can pull you 20 more sources to yours but I'm too tired for this autism and I'm going to bed, go befriend the anticki
>>60754319
All chronicles dealing with his ethnicity, call him vlach, so he was vlach, untill counter-arguments are given.
>>60754362
everywhere.
>>60754306
Yeah I know, Bulgarians and other Balkan countries are very mixed, I'll do a DNA test in the future, when I can spend the money of course, and I'll upload my results here
>>60754247
>>60754306
red hair comes from a mutation that long predates thracians or any other ethnic group and was not limited to one or two such; what you're saying sounds as absurd as trying to see which ethnicity your brown hair comes from
>>60754438
>100 euros for that neat 23andme shit or what ever that gives u a map as well tho
too much.
>>60754485
Red hair is also found amongst the Ashkenazi Jewish populations.[28] In European culture, prior to the 20th century, red hair was often seen as a stereotypically Jewish trait: during the Spanish Inquisition, all those with red hair were identified as Jewish.[29] In Italy, red hair was associated with Italian Jews, and Judas was traditionally depicted as red-haired in Italian and Spanish art.[30] Writers from Shakespeare to Dickens would identify Jewish characters by giving them red hair.[31] The stereotype that red hair is Jewish remains in parts of Eastern Europe and Russia.[32]
Lol.
Sidenote: 1/10 of all jews in Israel are from here, lol.
>>60754424
just because bulgarians ruled over wallachians doesn't mean our king was a subhuman vlach you retarded gypsy, get the fuck out of here with your FYROM-tier bullshit
>>60754424
you haven't even read the same sources you're pointing to so take your autism elsewhere
>>60754525
Well, I would see my whole ancestry, I would know what kind of a human I am, and also I can see what chances of what different types of diseases I can get, even cancers, when I'll start balding, etc, so It's completely worth the money imo
>>60754570
I might be a bit jewish, I have a pretty big nose, well not that long but big, although that's very common everywhere I think lol, I really don't know what type of ethnicity I am, Bulgarians and other Balkan countries are so complicated, I need to do a DNA test in the future.
>>60754388
> I can pull you 20 more sources to yours
No you cannot, if you could you would have, and if bulgarian historians could, they would have.
>Kaloyan was born in about 1168/1169. He was the younger brother and heir of Peter IV (Petăr IV) of Bulgaria and Ivan Asen I. He and his brothers have disputed origin.
thats his nationality/social status(bulgarian), not his ethnicity.For example,Napoleon was ethnic corsican , not french, but his nationality is french.
>>60754485
and?thracians had blonde/red-hair in majority.
>>60754578
Wallachians* ruled over bulgarians.Bulgarians number was simply just to small.
>>60754580
then if I didn't read, how do i have them?
When referring to Kaloyan's realm and subjects, contemporary Crusader sources (including the works of Geoffroy de Villehardouin, Henri de Valenciennes, Robert de Clari) other comtemporary sources (like that of William de Rubruquis and Roger Bacon's "Opus Maius"), as well as the letters of the Latin Emperor Henry of Flanders) represent Kaloyan as King of Wallachia, ruler of Wallachians and leader of Wallachian armies, and sometimes as ruler of Wallachians and Bulgarians. Such sources talk mostly of Wallachians and call Ioanitsa a Wallachian and "lord of Wallachians" (Blachorum domino).[3]
most interesting game they showed at e3 so far, reminds me sooo much of a clockwork orange
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQV-r92JS-A
>>60754663
>Wallachians* ruled over bulgarians.Bulgarians number was simply just to small.
kek I knew it was b8
fuck off, cucklad
>>60754704
>>60754663
>Early rulers from the Asen dynasty (particularly Kaloyan) referred to themselves as "Emperors of Bulgarians and Vlachs". Later rulers, especially the successful Ivan Asen II, styled themselves "Tsars (Emperors) of Bulgarians and Greeks".
does that mean they were greek too? xaxaxa fucking retarded history stealing gypsy
>>60754794
1.I dont care about other rulers, only Caloian
2.It clearly states what that means, that he ruled over bulgarians and greeks.
3.It was called the Vlacho-Bulgar Empire, only during Caloian rule, because not only was Caloian a vlach, but also because vlachs started the revolution.
>>60754741
>>60754794
>>60754704
>>60754663
>>60754578
>>60754580
>>60754424
>>60754388
Top kek. The most agreed upon theory with most sources is that the Asen dynasty was Cuman. Kaloyan was of Cuman origin.
Shut the fuck up about it now.
>>60754918
based on what sources do you make this fantesy claim?
Again,NOTE: All the sources existent, when dealing with Caloian Ioanitsa ethnicity, call him vlach.Thus, he is by default , vlach.
>>60754861
>3.It was called the Vlacho-Bulgar Empire, only during Caloian rule, because not only was Caloian a vlach, but also because vlachs started the revolution.
So by this logic when for example the Byzantime empire was ruled by an Armenian it was an "Armenian-Byzantine" empire.
>>60755075
You either do not want to pay attention, or you do it intentionally.
Vlacho-Bulgarian empire was called like this because it was formed from vlachs and bulgarians.The one who rules it is unnimported.
Note:I did not relate the name of Vlacho-Bulgarian Empire, to the ethnicity of Caloian.Caloian could have been sudanese,the Empire would still have been called like this.The only thing important, is that after Caloian's deaths, vlachs were no longer recognised in the Empire.
>>60754971
what the fuck are you talking about in every source he's called a bulgarian king or ruler of bulgarians and vlachs, which means vlachs were conquered, just like when later rulers named themselves kings of bulgarians and greeks/romans
his name Kaloyan comes from greek, his real name was Ivan or Ioan, a slavicized version of John/Iohannes whatever the fuck
there's nothing vlach about Kaloyan just because he ruled over some bum-fuck sheepherders from the carpathians
abe, 6to mi ne qdete kura, a?
>>60755259
>he's called a bulgarian king
but those sources refer to his status/nationality, not his ethnicity.
>which means vlachs were conquered
>conquered and there was no war
>his name Kaloyan comes from greek, his real name was Ivan or Ioan, a slavicized version of John/Iohannes whatever the fuck
his name etymology is unimportant.And his name is clearly Ioanistsa in byzantine chronicles, the vlach variant.
>there's nothing vlach about Kaloyan just because he ruled over some bum-fuck sheepherders from the carpathians
except that ALL(and when i say ALL I want you to get it through your thick skull) chronicles, when dealing with his ETHNICITY, call him vlach.
>>60755397
so let me get this straight, he was a vlach but his empire was bulgarian, he spoke bulgarian, he fought for the bulgarians, the greek sources calling him bulgarian and the theory of him being a vlach is ONLY accepted in Romania?
hmm kinda seems fishy m8 ;^)
>>60755384
e dai go de
>>60755650
Ioanitsa Caloian
status:king
nationality:bulgarian
ethnicity/origin: vlach
languages:bulgarian/vlach(?)
speakng about languages,Peter and Asen knew "vlach", so Caloian for sure knew too.
>and the theory of him being a vlach is ONLY accepted in Romania?
not a theory but a fact.And its the other way.Only bulgarians accept him as bulgarian.
>>60755751
aha, iska ti se be pedal
>>60755842
na koi vika6 pedal we maika ti 6e eba :@@
>>60755804
don't just pull shit out of your ass, m8
if he was vlachs he would establish his own vlach empire, not fight for the bulgarians and call himself a bulgarian, your fantasies aren't even logical
and no, stop shouting that it's the other way around, because it isn't
the only country where they think Kaloyan was a vlachs is Romania, nowhere else
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XeTNbMhAC4
what do u think about le facts?
>>60755880
kvo kaza za mama be 6e te smaja be mi6ka, q se vryshtai v hralupata si be ei maika mi e svetec, svetec!
>>60755956
>if he was vlachs he would establish his own vlach empire
his ethnicity was vlach, not his nationality.By your logic, Napoleon should had called it the Corsican Empire.
>and no, stop shouting that it's the other way around, because it isn't
the only country where they think Kaloyan was a vlachs is Romania, nowhere else.Like i said, I dont care about his nationality(bulgarian) but about his origin(vlach).
>>60755880
male samo da te namera, lele male
>>60756171
nema kvo da me tursi6 we
utre u 3 na pilonite
>>60756161
his origin is Cuman you retarded faggot, he was part of the Asen dynasty, and the name Asen has Cuman origin,
he married a Cuman, he used Cuman armies, and he was murdered by his general, who was also Cuman
his fucking brother Ivan Asen I had a nickname Blagun, which was also part of the Cuman language
you're an autistic fuck who wants to steal history and deserve to have your faggot teeth broken
>>60756318
tam sym, idvam sled fitnessa da napompam tez ryki, i 6e vidi6 bum bam, tres bam kabush
>>60756470
proteinovite 6eikcheta i anabolite nema da te spasqt ot sveta na bolkata we kaput
>>60756530
aha 6e vidim taq rabota, taka mi vikashe i posledniqt nali znae6, aha, po dobre si vzemi torbichka za zybite da gi ne zagubish be baluk
>>60756423
>his origin is Cuman you retarded faggot, he was part of the Asen dynasty, and the name Asen has Cuman origin,
>
his fucking brother Ivan Asen I had a nickname Blagun, which was also part of the Cuman language
the dyansty origin and etymology is irrelevant.For example, the founder of dynasty of Wallachia had a name of most likely Cuman Origin "Basarab", yet Basarab I was a orthodox vlach.And examples can continue, french kings in german dyansty, polish kings in hungarian dynasty etc etc You dont want to understand that back then ethnicities did not exist.
> he used Cuman armies
Caloian army was mostly formed by vlachs and some cumans.See the Chronicles.
>>60756730
kaloyan's army was bulgarians with some vlachs and cumans, the sources specifically state "the bulgarians raided this, the bulgarians raided that"
>You dont want to understand that back then ethnicities did not exist.
you're one dumb motherfucker
first you're saying he was ethnically vlach, now you're saying there were no ethnicities back then
he was Bulgarian with Cuman origin, who ruled a bulgarian kingdom which happened to rule over vlachs too, end of the story
>>60756886
>kaloyan's army was bulgarians with some vlachs and cumans,
dont think so.
As the Latin Emperor Baldwin I began to subdue rebel cities and besieged Adrianople, in the words of the Crusader chronicler Villehardouin "Johannizza, King of Wallachia, was coming to succour Adrianople with a very great host; for he brought with him Wallachians and Bulgarians, and full fourteen thousand Comans who had never been baptised" (Villehardouin, 92). On April 14, 1205, Kaloyan's Cumans managed to draw the pursuing heavy cavalry of the Latin Empire into an ambush in the marshes north of Adrianople, and Kaloyan inflicted a crushing defeat on the Crusader army.
When referring to Kaloyan's realm and subjects, contemporary Crusader sources (including the works of Geoffroy de Villehardouin, Henri de Valenciennes, Robert de Clari) other comtemporary sources (like that of William de Rubruquis and Roger Bacon's "Opus Maius"), as well as the letters of the Latin Emperor Henry of Flanders) represent Kaloyan as King of Wallachia, ruler of Wallachians and leader of Wallachian armies, and sometimes as ruler of Wallachians and Bulgarians. Such sources talk mostly of Wallachians and call Ioanitsa a Wallachian and "lord of Wallachians" (Blachorum domino).[3]
>first you're saying he was ethnically vlach, now you're saying there were no ethnicities back then
back then ethnicities did not exist in the sense that they existed in documents, it was all about status.But that does mean, that people did not actually had origins/ethnicities its just that they were not recognised.
>he was Bulgarian with Cuman origin, who ruled a bulgarian kingdom which happened to rule over vlachs too, end of the story
He was a bulgarian of vlach origin and part of a cuman dynasty, who ruled the buulgarian kingdom(recognised as vlacho-bulgarian kingdom untill his death), which constituted a alrge number of vlachs who also were the ones to start the revolution(that created the Empire)
![89754-SHEEIT-gif-Clay-Davis-The-Wire-R90q[1].gif](https://i.imgur.com/shzsFZC.gif "89754-SHEEIT-gif-Clay-Davis-The-Wire-R90q[1]")
>>60756730
>ROMAnians again with the "We wuz kingz and shiet"
>>60757133
NOI AM FOST REGII GORILELOR ȘI CÂCAT.
>>60757133
The Byzantine historian from 13th century Theodor Scutariota named Kaloyan "the Bulgarian Ioan" or "Bulgarian basileus" and wrote about "Bulgarians", "Bulgarian land", "Bulgarian matters"; also he defined Ivan Asen I as "tsar of the Bulgarians".[14] The same "probulgarian" point of view about the same persons and events was shared by several other Byzantine authors from 13th and 14th centuries like George Acropolites, George Pachymeres and Nicephorus Gregoras.[15]
The native sources, written in Old Bulgarian language and used domestically, including the lead seals of the Bulgarian rulers from Ivan Asen I to Boril use the term "Emperor of the Bulgarians", as do the literary sources (for example the Synodik of Boril) together with the terms "Bulgarian land", and "Bulgarian tongue".
>back then ethnicities did not exist in the sense that they existed in documents, it was all about status.But that does mean, that people did not actually had origins/ethnicities its just that they were not recognised.
exactly, and his ethnicity was Cuman
>He was a bulgarian of vlach origin and part of a cuman dynasty, who ruled the buulgarian kingdom(recognised as vlacho-bulgarian kingdom untill his death), which constituted a alrge number of vlachs who also were the ones to start the revolution(that created the Empire)
you dumb motherfucker why would vlachs want to create a bulgarian empire? they were VASSALS of the bulgarian empire, VASSALS of Kaloyan, king of the Bulgarians
his origin is Cuman, but that doesn't mean shit, since he considered himself Bulgarian, and successor of the old Bulgarian kings
the Asen and Peter uprising was started by bulgarians and vlachs after a tax increase, which led to the creation of the Bulgarian Empire, with Wallachia as its vassal
>>60757133
here's his seal
inscription says "Kaloyan Tsar of the Bulgarians"
>>60757516
>The Byzantine historian from 13th century Theodor Scutariota
did not reffer to his ethnicity, but to his title.
>y, including the lead seals of the Bulgarian rulers from Ivan Asen I to Boril
the Empire was known as Vlacho-bulgarian only during Kaloyan.Kaloyan only received crown as rex Bulgarorum et Blachorum ("King of Bulgarians and Wallachians") or rex Bulgarie et Blachie ("King of Bulgaria and Wallachia")
>exactly, and his ethnicity was Cuman
no proofs for this.Abstain from making proofless accusations.
>you dumb motherfucker why would vlachs want to create a bulgarian empire?
who said this?Again the chauvinistic bulgarian mind at work.Vlachs had no part on this.Coincidently, Kaloyan was vlach by origin
>the Asen and Peter uprising was started by bulgarians and vlachs after a tax increase, which led to the creation of the Bulgarian Empire, with Wallachia as its vassal
Dont think so.
Niketas Choniates tells us that Isaac II Angelus, in order to raise money for the wedding with the daughter of King Bela III of Hungary, levied a new tax which fell heavily on the population of the Vlach Haemus Mountains.[2] They sent two leaders (Peter and Asen) to negotiate with the emperor at Kypsella (now İpsala) in Thrace. They asked to be added to the roll of the Byzantine army and to be granted land near Haemus to provide the monetary income needed to pay the tax. This was refused, and Peter and Asen were treated roughly. Their response was to threaten revolt.[3]
>with Wallachia as its vassal
Dont think so.Wallachia was under the control of the First Bulgarian Empire from its establishment in 681, until approximately the Magyar conquest of Transylvania at the end of the 10th century
>>60757704
>the Empire was known as Vlacho-bulgarian only during Kaloyan.Kaloyan only received crown as rex Bulgarorum et Blachorum ("King of Bulgarians and Wallachians") or rex Bulgarie et Blachie ("King of Bulgaria and Wallachia")
That's because Wallachians were vassals of the Empire
>no proofs for this.Abstain from making proofless accusations.
Unbiased researches vastly agree that the Asen dynasty was of Cuman origin
as I said, Kaloyan's older brother had a Cuman nickname and the name of the dynasty is cumanic in origin too
>who said this?Again the chauvinistic bulgarian mind at work.Vlachs had no part on this.Coincidently, Kaloyan was vlach by origin
see above
>Niketas Choniates tells us that Isaac II Angelus, in order to raise money for the wedding with the daughter of King Bela III of Hungary, levied a new tax which fell heavily on the population of the Vlach Haemus Mountains.[2] They sent two leaders (Peter and Asen) to negotiate with the emperor at Kypsella (now İpsala) in Thrace. They asked to be added to the roll of the Byzantine army and to be granted land near Haemus to provide the monetary income needed to pay the tax. This was refused, and Peter and Asen were treated roughly. Their response was to threaten revolt.[3]
what the fuck is this supposed to prove?
>
Dont think so.Wallachia was under the control of the First Bulgarian Empire from its establishment in 681, until approximately the Magyar conquest of Transylvania at the end of the 10th century
Wallachia was under the control of the Second Bulgarian Empire too you dumb fuck
don't you know your own history?
Kaloyan's nephew Ivan Asen II was called "Tsar of Bulgarians and Greeks (Romans)" in sources
Kaloyan being called "king of bulgarians and vlachs" by some nobodies just because the vlachs were his vassals doesn't mean shit, stop ignoring the truth
hey these vids are pretty cool
https://youtu.be/Mh5LY4Mz15o
>>60758056
>That's because Wallachians were vassals of the Empire
In what fantesy?Abstain from proofless accusations.
>Unbiased researches vastly agree that the Asen dynasty was of Cuman origin
And Like It was proven above , dynasty origin != people origin.
>as I said, Kaloyan's older brother had a Cuman nickname and the name of the dynasty is cumanic in origin too
and as I said, name etymology is irrelevant.Another example, was Ladislaus IV The Cuman actually Cuman or slav?No.
>what the fuck is this supposed to prove?
that the revolt was started by vlachs.
>Wallachia was under the control of the Second Bulgarian Empire too you dumb fuck
No.Wallachia and Dobruja were only de jure vassals(in the time of Vladislav I)
>Kaloyan's nephew Ivan Asen II was called "Tsar of Bulgarians and Greeks (Romans)
and this already explained.This Title was gained when Ivan Asen II captured the Lord Emperor Theodore Comnenus and conquered all the land from Adrianople to Durazzo(see Tarnovo inscription of Ivan Asen II in the Church of the Holy Forty Martyrs)
>Kaloyan being called "king of bulgarians and vlachs" by some nobodies just because the vlachs were his vassals doesn't mean shit, stop ignoring the truth
Kaloyan was king of bulgarians and vlachs because the EMpire was formed from bulgarians and vlachs.And when it says vlachs, it does not refer to the vlachs from North of Danube, but from those from Bulgaria proper(Balkan Mountains mainly)
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