The US used to be only 7th in the history of largest mass shootings, now it's 3rd.
#1 here we come
G-d bless America
We just need to arm everyone in nightclubs to prevent this
Yeah just look at what happens in places where guns aren't allowed. Gee that works out so well for those people, doesn't it?
Whatever, if they feel that safe because of gun-free zones, I hope the death was quick and painless so they didn't feel any regret.
>>60725483
the only reason gun free zones don't work is because they're surrounded by gun zones
if you made the whole country a gun free zone and built a wall it'd work better
>>60725499
>gun zones
Most of the country is a gun zone
>>60725520
yes that's my point
>>60725483
>>60725499
you're both retarded
the point of gun free zones is to keep minor disputes from escalating into a gun fight
Why are Americans so stupid? all they need is a concealed carry license and they're completely safe
#banassaultmuslims
>>60725525
I agree we should en act fool proof gun bans like in France and Germany.
>>60725483
>hundreds of people shooting in a loud dark nightclub
I mean what could possibly go wrong?
>it's another gungrabber shitflinging thread
>>60725438
>The US used to be only 7th in the history of largest mass shootings, now it's 3rd.
Are you talking about the world or only about the western part?
>>60725621
probably the world
>>60725587
If guns are banned they're not doing a great job.
>>60725587
>if we can't stop 100% we shouldn't stop any
>>60725652
why do people always ignore switzerland
they give people FREE FUCKING GUNS
jaysus
>>60725676
but banning guns stops fuckall
>>60725703
>but banning guns stops fuckall
lmbo
>implying whatever kid shoots up next weeks school will get their gun through a black market and not from their parent's drawer
God bless
I say: stop with the gun-free zones. Americans love so much to shoot each others, they should have the right to do it everywhere.
>>60725703
banning guns works in every other countr
America has too big a gun culture to outright ban them though
>>60725499
>gun zones
I am a gun zone
>>60725588
>hundreds of people shooting in a loud dark nightclub
When you put it like that it sounds kind of fun.
>>60725703
>why do people always ignore switzerland
because its a tiny landlocked mountain indigenous nation surrounded by neighbours who kept it safe for centuries. it's not something you can use as a good comparison unless you need a fact to pick.
>>60725703
switzerland is the exception not the rule
>>60725731
what about switzerland and mexico numbnuts
>>60725719
mass shootings are statistically insignificant and many have been prevented by lads with guns. you just dont hear about it cos almost no one dies and muh agenda
>>60725776
switzerland has pretty hostile neighbours historically. and how nice your neighbours are doesnt mean shit for your crime rate what are you on about?
>>60725786
proofs?
Gun owners in Switzerland are conscripted military, they don't have the gun culture practiced in the US
>>60725740
>that feel when you're forever trapped in the gun zone
>>60725786
anyway mexico has strict af gun laws and look at them
>b-but theyre an exception
ok how about brazil? that central american cunt (honduras iirc)?
>>60725786
Nah if you lay homicide rates by european country and gun ownership rates there's no correlation
Like Switzerland, Germany, Sweden, Norway, etc have a lot of guns but a very low homicide rate.
Same with iceland where one-third own guns.
http://www.ibtimes.com/iceland-plenty-guns-hardly-any-violence-1021958
Petition to rename America "the gun zone"
>>60725813
once again ceo of micked outdoes himself and reaches a new level of retard
>Mexico
literally hell on earth
>Switzerland
exception to the rule
>>60725813
Switzerland has one of the highest rates of firearm homicides in Europe you stupid motherfucker
>>60725837
>While it is true that Mexico possesses strict gun laws, where most types and calibers are reserved to military and law enforcement, the acquisition and ownership of certain firearms and ammunition remains a constitutional right to all Mexican citizens and foreign legal residents
Honduras doesn't have strict laws at all that infograph was a straight-up lie. Brazil has legal guns too.
>>60725828
the difference between america and switzerland is america has a problem with gangs (who get their guns illegally anyway). america has a gang problem not a gun problem.
as i said before mass shootings are insignificant statistically.
>>60725865
see >>60725842
theres no correlation
heres a graph by US state also
>>60725864
kek
>>60725882
gun deaths doesnt matter. what matters is the raw homocide rate, and switzerlands is low as fuck
>>60725900
constitutional right means fuckall if the mexican government ignores it. ill give you honduras but brazil is fairly strict on guns (but favelaniggers have them anyway)
>>60725438
And who are the first and the second? Don't tell me it's Norway amongst them...
>>60725864
>search "giant signature" for relevant image for reply
>mfw
>>60725930
So if they had less guns to kill people with do you not think their overall homicide rate would be even lower?
>>60725973
>tfw the world is still catching up to breiviks legacy
>>60725977
no people would just stab each other
see england
gun violence is a buzzword used to skew statistics. if people have guns theyll use it to kill someone before a knife yes, but taking a gun away doesnt stop them from shanking you.
>>60725973
Norway was 1st and South Korea was 2nd, according to the newspaper
I'm not sure how they classify something as a "mass shooting", though
>>60726014
>people would just stab each other
Ah yes, knives, just as deadly as guns and also all situations where people were shot were never escalated by guns AH YES
>>60726038
breivik has the high score by a lot, and norway is a small country so its not surprising at all
>>60726051
having a knife escalates situations just as much as a gun dunno what youre on about
and if i stab you youre actually more likely to bleed to death because theres no bullet blocking the arteries
also fuck off with your /brit/speak
>>60725703
>but banning guns stops fuckall
Every thug in America has a gun. Here, even with the dindus are chimping out for days, nobody get shot.
>>60725438
We should go back to New Mexico in the 1870s.
>>60725900
>honduras doesnt have stroct gun laws
Yes it does
License required to own guns
Limit on how many guns you can own
No carrying allowed
>>60726083
american gang members have illegal guns which they kill each other with. banning guns wont solve this.
>>60726097
what happened in New Mexico during the 1870s?
>>60726014
The US has more knife crime than the UK you fucking idiot, each country has differing legal definitions of violent crime but the US is far worse.
>>60725438
what's the list? can't find one to see exactly what you mean
>>60725438
Who's number 1 and 2?
>but yuros, le ebin switzerland of many weapons have such a low homicide rate!
They don't kill each other not in fear of each other's arsenals, but because THEY DON'T NEED TO. Have you ever been to Switzerland, Americans? Noone there is poor, everyone has a work with absurdly high minimal wages, access to good education and lives far from any religious and political fanatism. Except from a few shady bankers, that nobody would ever touch, they're basically a few millions of jolly mountain farmers with the net worth of a manager, of course they don't shoot each other.
>>60725882
No it doesn't cretin.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Lower than Belgium, Italy, Netherlands and Portugual.
>>60726117
im not saying americas crime rate is good, what im saying is that gun laws have nothing to do with it
>>60726132
im from switzerland actually and i know its more peaceful than america. thats the point though, having guns doesnt automatically make you a mad max shithole.
>>60725652
I know you can just buy gas pistols in Germany. And you can shoot through a door with them.
Here in the Netherlands you can grt pretty much any gun but you need to be a sport shooter, hunter, trader or collector. Because carrying anything for the purpose of self-defense is illegal.
>>60726108
Absolute chaos my nigga. Everyone had guns and everyone shot each other.
It was also the time of Billy the Kid, wish I could have his boypucci desu
>>60725837
>mexico has strict af gun laws and look at them
Don't use us to "prove" ur bullshit, thx, our problems aren't that simple
>>60725588
>things that only happen in hollywood
>>60726137
>Lower than Belgium, Italy, Netherlands and Portugual.
He's probably including suicides.. Switzerland has a relatively high number of suicides, and most people use guns to do it.
>>60725703
Because switzerland is white.
Same with finland, high rate of gun ownership, low rate of guns used in murders. Whats the difference between finland/sweden and usa? USA tends to have more africans and hispanics and thus more gang related crime.
>>60726143
Illegal in theory but here gun crime is taken on a case by case basis, if you shoot someone in self defense you will be fine.
>M-Muh guns
They are supposed to stop the government from fucking you in the ass.
Have they worked? You have centuries of history to see the answer for yourself.
>>60726163
No, he clearly said firearm homicides.
>>60726153
the """"""""""""wild"""""""""" west actually had a really low crime rate compared to today
>>60726155
neither are gun laws. im saying again that strict gun laws dont affect crime (or the chaos that is mexico) in a country
im just trying to prove a lack of correlation
>>60726167
dont bring race into this pls im well aware its blacks and mexicans responsible for most violent crime but has nothing to do with the discussion at hand
>>60725837
>anyway mexico has strict af gun laws and look at them
Just so you know, most firearms here were purchased legally in the US.
And don't make me remind you about that little FBI trick that didn't work.
>>60726143
You can buy gas pistols/rifles and air pistols/rifles freely here too though. Just not replicas, you need a minor license for that because apparantly airsoft replicas are more scary and dangerous than actual airguns that will shoot you dead...
>Because carrying anything for the purpose of self-defense is illegal.
Yes... Even though if you DO carry something for self defense and use it, the judge will likely not hold it against you. You'll just get a slap on the wrist for possession/improper storage of a weapon. Our laws are retarded.
>M-muh monopoloy of violence
>>60726167
Just going to ignore the absurd wealth inequality?
>>60726179
You can shoot people in self-defence here as well, if you or someone else is threatened with deadly force.
>>60726190
>dont bring race into this pls
Than chalk it up to gang culture instead of race.
I'm going to kill myself before I let anyone take my guns
t. Northerner who likes guns
>>60726142
Of course not, only a cretin would think that. But you must admit that America is not as peaceful. You have poors, you have social problems, and God knows if you don't have political and religious fanatism. Maybe it's not such a good idea, to give muslims born and raised in your southern countries outcast from society to own assault weaponry. Your mass shooters are mostly children or fanatic manchilds, not the kind of people that would know how to get themselves heavy weapons illegaly. But hey, they don't need to, they just need to go to their local gun shop and get a load of them.
>it's another gun control episode
Just leave it you idiots. If Americans are content with their gun addled country, then so be it
>>60726065
If you were out to kill a bunch of people would you choose a knife or a gun? Why do mass knifings rarely involve deaths? Very dumb poster
>>60726184
Yeah, but many 'firearm death' stats tend to be vague about that.. Many just suicides as homicides too, because 'lol we're all homos with agendas ;DD'
>>60725499
Same thing lefties always say.
>it just didn't work because because the whole rest of the fucking world wasn't following our plan.
If you take out suicides gun deaths in the US drops by 1/3rd.
The remaining 75% are gang related.
In this light, the US has a similar gun violence rate as Europe, actually lower than some European countries. Even if this wasn't the case, banning guns has never dropped the murder rate, every single time guns have been banned the murder rate has either stayed the same with knife murder replacing it or in some cases causing the murder rate to increase. In all instances of guns being banned and confiscated, the general crime rate including but not limited to burglary, mugging, assault and rape has gone up. Disarming the civilian population does nothing to stop criminals from committing crimes. In most cases it just makes their job a lot easier, a 240 pound thug can shrug off pepper spray, he can't shrug off a sucking chest wound.
>>60726124
Peepee and poopoo haha
>>60726179
wasnt there this farmer that was imprisoned for 10 years for shooting a burglar in england? load of bollocks
at least norn iron has ok gun laws
>>60726184
which means nothing
>>60726196
yeah im aware of that also. which strengthens the arguement about illegal guns, criminals will be able to get them from somewhere
>>60726213
thats what ive been doing, read my posts
>>60726223
yeah america has problems with crime but to blame it on guns is silly
>>60726227
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack
more deaths than sandy hook
>>60726137
>one of the highest
And yes access to guns vastly increases suicide rates
>>60726244
>The remaining 75% are gang related.
>>60726124
Couldn't find exact list, but based of wikipedias list of rampage killers I'd say they're Norway and South Korea. It's likely that some of the current wounded victims will die, so it's possible USA will become #2.
>internet debates with 6 people at midnight on a phone
isnt this great fun
>>60726257
honestly if people want to kill themselves, let them. might sound edgy but its really a personal thing
>>60726264
last time i checked america has waaaaaaay more gang violence than anywhere in europe
>>60726190
Yeah, but what you are ignoring is demographics, most violent countries are made up of young people, USA has far more young people than those Yurobean cunts you mention, which is certainly a cataliyst for violence.
>>60726278
america has a large population tho so it takes more deaths to boost the standing
>>60726282
did not know this.
whats your stance on gun laws?
>>60726257
I don't care.
People own their own bodies and if they wish to end it that is their own right.
Suicide does not impact my safety nor does it impact the safety of innocent people.
Switzerland doean't have the highest gun homicislde rate by far in Western Europe so you have to move the goalposts over to gun deaths.
Libshit faggot
>>60726190
Yeah but it was cooler.
>>60726244
Here pretty much 90% of the shootings are done between drug criminals.
With the occasional suicidal cop who shoots up his family, a bank robber from abroad and one recent (2007) crazy sport shooter who shot up a mall.
>>60726244
>gun deaths in the US drops by 1/3rd.
>The remaining 75%
Man, that common core really fucks lil' gringuito's math, doesn't it
Twin Peaks in Waco had 170 bikers armed to the teeth from two separate biker gangs and only 9 people died in a mass shootout. I realize people were going to die, but why the fuck didn't any of these faggots attempt to rush the gunman? Did they just line up for the shooter to get shot?
>>60726319
Wait that was 2011. Its the only mass shooting I know of here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphen_aan_den_Rijn_shopping_mall_shooting
ye simply cannot compete with my superiour intellect. i am the master of internet debates.
>>60726316
'twas indeed. the old west was americas best period.
>>60726319
in ireland we have gang wars with loads of shootings right now and hand guns are banned.
>>60726328
i think he meant 75% of the remaining 2/3
>>60726257
No?
The places in the world with the highest rates of suicide have some of the lowest rates of gun ownership. Guns are easy to kill yourself with and that's why people use them if they have access to them. I don't think suicidal people should have access to guns, but that's a metal health issue not a gun control issue. I suppose it could be both, but you can't legislate that suicidal people shouldn't have guns cause how the fuck are you gonna enforce that? We need better access to mental health care in this country.
Mental issues are the reasons most mass shooting happen and is responsible for almost all suicides.
>>60726328
I'm saying of the 2/3rds remaining after you count out suicides, 75% of that amount can be blamed on gangs.
>>60726264
If you disagree take it up with the FBI, not me. And just think about it, in the North there's tons of ghettos, in the South, there's tons of drug trafficking and surely you know about the Cartel problem Mexico has, and how weak the Mexican-US border is? Not to mention all the white supremacist gangs and biker gangs in general, and now the Italian mafia has died down a lot but I hear the Russian mafia is making a resurgence.
>>60726349
>Mental issues
also this america has crazies running amok and no one is doing anything about it. healthcare in general is fucked for joe mcbillybob.
>>60726345
He owned his guns legally. Despite being mentally ill.
>>60725499
Worked well for Paris.
>>60726349
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/risk/
'no'
>>60726303
Although it's a great idea to have a well armed population ready for whatever may come the thought of my neighboor owning an automatic rifle is scary.
I'd say that allowing to own semi automatic weapons is a good cut-off, also a proper training on marksmanship should be a must for everyone who pretends to own a weapon.
I don't agree with the "shall not be infirnged" meme because rights carry responsibilities and if a person shows signs of being irresponsible the society/state has a legitimate power to take such right away
>>60726257
Literally don't care suicide is a human right and has no bearing on my physical safety at all
>>60726438
>well armed population
That's a meme, any kind of civilian militia would be steamrolled by any kind of modern military.
>>60726425
if people want to kill themselves, let them. you cant stop every death, and it doesnt risk anyone elses safety.
try to stop them if you can (to save face honestly no other reason) but it doesnt matter in the wider world.
>>60726438
i agree gun owners should be trained in safety and how to properly use their guns. only gun control measure that can truly be considered common sense. of course, most gun owners educate themselves on this stuff anyway so it doesnt matter too much.
>>60726384
If someone gets a gun license here he literally needs to ask the police for that license so they can do a background check. Except that they didnt lol. While he was known by the police as they once helped put him in a mental institution.
>>60726425
I don't feel like looking into counter studies so I'll just take your source as genuine.
Even then, what will reduce the amount of suicides is improving mental health care, not getting rid of guns.
And unless you can find a way to only remove guns from suicidal people then I don't want to hear it, because if increased suicide is the price we pay for reduced muggings, thuggings and rapes then I find that a decent trade off. Is that a bit harsh? You bet your ass, but hundreds of thousands of people die daily and in the end we're all fuckin irrelevant specs of dust. The only thing we've got is our lives and it's terrible that some people choose to throw it away, but they made that choice. My choice is to live as long as I can, and I won't be denied my choice just because someone bigger and stronger than me wanted the gift cards in my pocket.
Suicide is an epidemic, it can be treated without harming the rest of us. The minute you take away guns from the 5' 2" blonde or the 74 year old grandmother you're harming them. And I find that unacceptable.
>>60726480
Yeah why try to stop heat of the moment suicides for people who are extremely mentally ill and would otherwise get help
Jesus fuck gun nuts are embarrassingly stupid
>>60726475
what about ever war america has been in this century? vietnam? your oldest colony, ireland
guerrilla tactics arent obsolete yet, especially with one of the most educated (>inb4 muricun jucation) and well armed populations on the planet
if goatfuckers with 60 year old soviet rifles can do it so can a bunch of rednecks
>>60726517
How do you only take the guns from them. Tell me that.
You can't take guns from people who are sane and happy because other people are sad and cracked.
>>60726517
If I want to kill myself "in the heat of the moment" whats it to you dumb fuck libshit cunt? It's my body and life.
>get help
By locking me up in a ward all my life? Fuck off
Cold. Bloodedd
>>60726512
>reduced muggings, thuggings, and rapes
You sure about that? Answer wisely
>>60726143
>I know you can just buy gas pistols in Germany.
> you can grt pretty much any gun but you need to be a sport shooter, hunter, trader or collector.
Literally the same here, mate.
>>60726517
i genuinely dont care for suicides. sue me.
>>60726504
people always overestimate the police's competence
>>60726543
SOME PEOPLE ARE BORN
>>60726475
Doubt it, history shows that guerrillas are hard.
>>60726542
>mental health resources are actually a bad thing
>>60725438
This reminds me, should I bother getting magpul for my ar-15 or should I get rails? Don't really have a need for rails, but it'd be nice to have them if I ever decide to add an item to it.
>>60726545
>FBI estimates an average of 200,000 violent crimes are stopped per year by guns, in less than 5% of cases was the gun ever fired
Yes. You wanna find me a study showing reduced mugging thuggings and rapes after guns were banned?
I'll give you some tips. Don't look at Australia, Germany or the UK.
>>60726555
i hear germanys fairly ok on guns.
>>60726567
he didnt say that, he just said at the end of the day its his choice
>>60726578
>thuggings
what is this
is it an americanism im not familiar with or what
>>60726525
Goatfuckers heavily armed by the USA m8
The Vietcong won because fighting in a jungle halfway across the planet is a terrible idea, facing the best funded military force on common ground would be a massacre.
>>60726565
No it doesn't read a fucking book.
>>60726567
I never said that dipshit.
Suicide is an issue of bodily autonomy. Eat shit.
>>60726602
they were still outgunned. and you have to remember half the US army would defect in a people vs. government civil war.
>>60726603
also mental health. if a mentally healthy person decides "ho hum, well nothing to live for today might as well pop a cap in my skull haha" thats bodily autonomy. if a clinically depressed person wants to kill themselves thats a mental health issue
>>60726603
It is when you're in the right state of mind, if you don't think it's a problem that extremely emotionally disturbed people are making the quick and impulsive decision to shoot themselves then you're just as emotionally disturbed
Eat shit you cousinfucking redneck
>>60726643
>cousinfucking redneck
now thats just rude m8. are you saying half of your countrymen are cousinfucking rednecks? although i have a sneaking suspicion youre a CHI
>>60726601
When 20 African American youths beat the fucking shit out of a white guy because he's white. They've been on the rise the past few years, racial tensions are flaring hard especially with the coming election.
You've got a US flag? Where do you live? If you don't live near a ghetto you should be okay, I don't live near one either but I took a trip up north. Spent 1 day in Detroit, almost got mugged after being there 2 hours. In broad daylight. Next to a theatre. With tons of witnesses around.
>>60726640
>>60726643
Mental illness does not equal mental incompetence you fucking idiot.
Just because somebody is depressed does not mean they cannot make a competent decision when it comes to suicide.
Euthansia is allowed for severe depression in countries like Belgium and the Netherlands for this reason.
http://m.nydailynews.com/news/world/belgium-woman-24-granted-euthanasia-death-depression-article-1.2276577
Again, it has to do with bodily autonomy.
>>60726667
>are you saying half of your countrymen are cousinfucking rednecks?
Literally yes
>you must be Mexican
Nope, but this mentality only furthers my belief that you're a cousinfucking redneck
I actually feel pretty sad for americans. Stay strong lads, also bomb a few prayer rooms, it'll get better.
>>60726680
Those cousinfucking rednecks are responsible for 60% of the aerospace industry and almost all the automotive industry in the US. You do know that right. We also make all the DVDs and Blu Rays in the US right out of Huntsville Alabama.
>>60726643
here's a hypothetical
>love guns
>also depressed
>gov't learns this, promptly takes away weapons
>can't shoot or defend yourself
>can't do certain jobs
>shows up in background checks
>social stigma of being suicidal
I'm not saying that mental health solutions are a bad thing, but they are implemented poorly, because (especially if you're military) you get treated like shit and it ruins your life when you seek help.
>>60726675
i live in a black neighbourhood in chicago i know about the shit that goes on. isnt too bad but i hear gunshots out my window occasionally.
>>60726680
im actually irish so im not sure i can be a redneck.
>>60726679
well i agree with you that suicides should have no bearing on firearms legislation
>>60726643
>people with depression shouldn't be allowed to commit suicide
Nope they should because depression is not mental incompetence. Stay salty, authortarian faggot. You would keep somebody locked up in a psych ward their entire life instead of allowing them to check out.
I was born without my consent.
And I can leave this world without your consent.
Come and take it faggot.
>>60726643
And whether or not it's impulsive has no bearing on if I have the freedom to make it. People have the freedom to make impulsive decisions all the tome.
Eat shit cancerous tyrant fuck.
>>60726782
>wanting to lessen suicides by mentally disturbed people
>FUCKING TYRANT MUH GUNS
>>60726700
They just call anyone who isn't totally on board with the Jewish agenda rednecks.
They call Trump a redneck for fuck's sake.
Libshits not even once.
>>60726700
>those cousinfucking rednecks do the blue collar work that educated people are too smart to do
>>60726807
>depression equals mental disturbance
Fuck off.
Ot's my body. It's my life. If i want to end it, I have the right to.
I'm not a slave to you or your libshit government you fucking faggot.
>>60726817
>new york billionaire with a private jet
>redneck
wut
redneck generally implies theyre farmers right
>>60726831
>literally rocket scientist
Lmao
>>60726839
Oh believe me I'm not stopping you, if everybody like you were to kill themselves we'd get a lot more done
>>60726831
these cousinfucking rednecks are making 80k a year welding while millions of stem faggots are in debt thousands and working at mickey d's for 7 bucks an hour.
>>60726844
Redneck is someone who works outside doing hard labor with a collarless shirt and cap on, giving him (or her honestly) a red neck from getting a sunburn.
>>60726858
Psshhhhhh nothin personnel kid
>>60726858
So don't try to deprive my means of doing so.
>>60726858
>suicide is wrong except when people i dont like do it
ecks flipping dee
>>60726869
yeah i know it comes from being sunburnt
>>60726253
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Kunming_attack
People always link to this. I've been to that station it's crowded as fuck, hundreds of people crowding together in a small space. In that incident 8 attackers killed 29 (less than 4 each), the death toll would have been far higher if they'd had semi-automatic firearms.
>>60726861
>80k a year
>a lot
>for doing manual labor
Literally lmaoing
>>60725652
glorious switzerland
>>60726869
Redneck comes from the red bandanas worn in a historical event that took place that I can't remember
>>60726858
>nobody should commit suicide, we need to stop it
>except you, you disagree with me I wish you'd kill yourself
You are so fucking liberal it hurts. Are you aware you're a massive hypocrite or can you not read its definition because your glasses aren't actually prescription?
>>60726920
Not sure about that, Google has nothing about that it's all about sunburned necks.
>>60726887
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xiamen_bus_fire
47 vs 50 so almost the same
>>60726887
well true there were a lot of assailants
still mass shootings dont really matter since theyre statistically insignificant
>>60726900
better than a mcjob with a stem degree and 30k in loans
>>60725438
nothing so pathetic as a self hating American
>>60725588
>someone drops their gun on the dance floor
>spends 35 minutes crawling in darkness trying to find it
>>60726922
You're not a mentally disturbed and deeply depressed person, you're just an idiot with regressive views, it would be objectively positive if you were to die
It's your choice as an American so please make it
>>60726963
This doublethink is amazing.
>>60726906
objectively the worlds best country
>>60726920
ive never heard of this, only about sunburns
jamaicans call whites "redlegs" also because of their sunburn iirc
>>60726963
>objectively
its pretty subjective since youre giving him a subjective value based on your opinion
>>60726949
ikr. im a yuropoor and it makes me cringe.
>>60726960
kek
>>60726985
its what happens when an entire thread got systematically btfo.
>>60726945
College is free for me, no debt, will likely be entering the field at ~130k
Enjoy welding though I guess Cletus
>>60727016
How much is living expenses?
>>60727016
good for you for being lucky i guess. i plan on earning some money with a trade and living innawoods anyway though so this doesnt really concern me.
and its not cletus, it's jim-bob mccormick
>>60727016
So why do leftards have such a snob contempt for working class Americans? Wasn't Marxism supposed to be about elevating the, um, proletariat?
>>60727041
Also paid for by scholarship
I'm literally making money to go to college because my books are free and I resell them though it used to be better with Amazon
>>60727080
because theyre rich fucks who despise the working class.
>>60727092
arent you a fat little happy middle class white american. if only we could all be as enlightened as you.
>>60727116
Yeah, it's really great not being a poor inbred redneck
>>60727092
That's not going to be true after you graduate. Where do you live, living expenses have to be pretty significant for a job to pay that well.
Not that you won't still be making a lot of money, just curious to see the dynamics of wages to living expenses in various places of the country. You can get a job in Cali paying 200k a year but have to pay 120k a year in living expenses, mostly, rent, but then you're still pocketing 80k a year to spend on whatever the fuck you want. I can get an entry level position at 40k a year in Alabama then expect to pay about 20k in living expenses so I can pocket 20k. Or I could go North for 60k a year and 50k living expenses.
>>60727080
In their eyes, they are the proletariat.
Everyone else - including the actual working classes - are the evil privileged cisgendered bourgeois that must be cleansed
>>60727131
want me to rub your belly too?
>>60727131
Don't you know that if the revolution ever happened, ivory tower liberal idiots would all end up in a labor camp? You'd be cracking rocks in Siberia and all your belongings are confiscated by the state and given to peasants.
>>60727142
Florida, database analysis
>>60727147
its quite funny
>champagne socialists: fuck the capitalist borgiosi :DDDDDDD workers of the world unite X-----DDDDDDDD
>workers of the world: fuck off thanks
>champagne socialists: fuck off shitlord stop oppressing me in my 5 room suburban house in my 95% white neighbourhood
it's not about guns, it's about the people
USA is a country with no collective mindset, a violent, warmongering population with heavy disparity and no social welfare
mentally ill in Finland? go to the hospital and they'll help you for free.
mentally ill in the US? go live on the street or shoot up a school.
>>60727163
Why the fuck do you think I want some sort of revolution you dipshits? I just want our government to be more like Australia or canada and for all rednecks to die really
>>60727167
Ah, I'd imagine you're in one of the nicer places of Florida so probably some significant expenses but you'll still be making a pretty penny.
And the fuck is database analysis paying 130k a year for? Isn't that just telling marketers how to market? I guess I shouldn't be too surprised given how big marketing has gotten but that's still a bit mind boggling to me.
>>60727185
id rather be an american than a canadian or aussie honestly.
>>60727181
This.
A gun ban will achieve nothing, and instead will probably make things worse
>>60727194
No, shittier part
And no, look at salaries for someone with a bachelors and certifications
Believe cybersec makes even more
>>60727185
>complain about rednecks
>want to be more like Australia
Uh...
>>60727185
So tolerant and progressive :^)
I bet if Mudslimes decided to shoot up a redneck bar instead of a gay...oh wait, they wouldn't because the former probably have conceal-and-carry permits. Geez, the donut punchers in that nightclub all went running like the Tumblr betamaxes they are.
>>60727181
this tbfam
It's easy af to get guns in Switzerland yet their gun violence is nothing like the USA
Americans just have this twisted, warped degenerate mentality that all commies, socialists, Muslims, gays are all out to get them
>>60727181
>USA is a country with no collective mindset
This is true. American culture is definitively more individualistic than Scandinavia.
>and no social welfare
Last I checked, we've only had that since the 1930s.
>>60727233
I can see cybersec making more, they're in charge of trillions of dollars worth of goods. Still, didn't realize data anal paid that well, good for you buddy. I couldn't do that shit, I'd be bored out of my mind after a month I prefer making things which is why I'm in aerospace engineering.
>>60727234
also this kek
the average american liberal would be terrified if he met a bogan
>>60727253
thats an epic maymay. the real problem is tyrone o'shaqueece bustin a cap in a nigguh cuz he didnt give him the crack he was owed, not joey bob mcjohnson shooting the commies on his lawn.
>>60727234
Oh god, why is Hells Bells playing in my head now?
>>60727269
Sorry to break it to you but you won't be making shit, technicians and technologists will be
>>60727280
Also Canada has plenty of rednecks though theirs aren't as trashy as the ones in the US or Australia.
Anyone "american" who believes that gun ownership should be banned is a worthless cuckold faggot that should be shot on sight.
>>60727181
it's also about nogs, they shoot a lot of other nogs
our population isn't 13% nog yet
>>60727299
Good luck getting one of those jobs with your degree in transsexual studies.
>>60725463
http://www.pinkpistols.org/about-the-pink-pistols/
>>60727306
and they still somehow elected weedman.
>>60727320
/int/ would explode with memes
>be american
>say you dont want to get shot
>get shot
>tfw masacre is your favorite national pastime and you even can't excel at it
Pathetic.
>>60727280
>it's all le blacks fault!!!!
>we whiteys good bois we dindu nuffin!!!!
kek. the entire maori identity is based on >muh warrior kangz and our violence is nothing compared to your society
seek help
>>60727299
No no I'll specifically be wiring missiles and rockets up and making harnesses and shit. It's cool as fuck to wire up something that could blow up an entire house.
>>60727163
See, in the Soviet Union and China, they purged all of their Bohemian intellectuals, sent them to labor camps, reeducation, etc and denounced them as the parasite class and rudiments of bourgeois society.
>>60725438
>muh mass shootings
Congrats on being an easily herded sheep.
>>60727299
What the fuck is a technologist? Also, plebs do the actual construction of the product. The engineers tell them what to do.
>>60727342
Canada is just like the US in that big liberal-leaning cities like Vancouver decide elections, not the prairie provinces.
>>60727328
these are the kind of faggots that just make me smile
>>60727348
its true tho
>50% of murders 13% of population yadda yadda
>>60727324
>imagine being 19 again
>>60726014
bullshit
>>60727384
City-dwelling liberals are disgusting spit. Theyre the worst sort of liberal. Theyre ignorant AND theyre completely worthless and unproductive. A true detriment to society.
>>60727374
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering_technologist
How do you not know what a technologist is
You in high school or something?
>>60727185
>I just want our government to be more like
There's your fucking problem.
Government do this government do that.
Those countries are nothing like our country, and voting in fascism isn't going to make the great melting pot of the world into some low population primarily white country.
All their social shit that half ass works for them for now would be instantly bankrupted, and no we don't spend all our money on the fucking military, we already spend most of it on social programs.
The government doesn't have money, they take your money to do everything. That might not matter to your average college age dick brain who isn't working trying to raise a family yet but it does to your average guy who can barely afford groceries and suddenly they they want him to pay for the citizens of Mexico's needs and for whores to use abortion as a contraceptive.
>>60727440
cities disgust me. ive lived in chicago 3 years and its been the worst years of my life.
t. culchie
>>60727440
Yeah they're usually the beatnik Bohemian types who smoke various substances while discussing French literature and whining about Republicans. As I said, ironically these are the very people who would be the first to get purged if communism ever happened.
>>60727466
Cities at their core a great places. The problem is theyre infested with limp wristed faggot hipster liberals as well as niggers. Also the governments are often horribly corrupt.
>>60727532
cities will always attract limp wristed queers. its just how they are.
>>60726945
>mass shootings are statistically irrelevant
>>60725438
Ah yes another one of these threads.
>>60727583
do NOT bring tomoko into this
>>60727608
Dumb worthless cunt
>>60725973
Forgive linking ED, but they do keep nice high score tables.
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/High_Score
>>60727583
Mass shooting account for so little deaths per year that statistically they are irrelevant.
Statistics isn't exactly moralistic, it's just hard math, and the math for mass shootings is a pretty small number.
50 people got shot and died at the gaybar in an hour. 6,316 other people died around the world in that time.
>Americans refusing to admit a gun problem
Fine, so maybe it's not the guns, it's the people?
>Americans refuse to admit their cultural problems
You retards deserve Trump, honestly
>>60727626
delet
>>60727646
>apologising for ED on 4chan
how far this shithole has fallen
>>60727653
>it's the people?
Yes
Trump will fix our people problems
Quick question: Was the weapon obtained legally?
>>60727646
>still not #1
wtf i hate norway now
>>60727673
yes
He was a security guard and bought every weapon legally
>>60727693
Fucking hell.
>>60727673
for mass shooters they usually are. for gang murders (the majority of murders) theyre usually illegal however
>>60727708
True. Obama is fucking stupid if he thinks controlling weapons is going to do any good.
>>60727697
He worked security, and if I recall correctly he also had an ffl which allowed him full auto guns too. I heard he was being watched by the FBI for something, anybody know what?
>>60727708
Not true, most of the time the shooter obtains the gun illegally, but the gun was originally legally purchased. Most commonly they steal a legal gun from a family member, almost no guns used in mass shootings have been purchased by the shooter legally.
>>60727740
I heard about the FBI thing too.
I think he was interrogated by them twice.
Leftists are loony, if they take one thing from the people, they tend to go for more. Never trust them
>>60727656
>ED
>not cancer that taught newfags how to be repost kings and spam tired memes they just read about all over the board
>>60727740
>>60727752
If he was on the FBI's watchlist there is literally no way he should have been allowed a gun.
>>60727693
Even if guns were illegal to the public, he would still have access to guns because of his occupation. Unless the US was retarded like the UK and only allowed security and police to carry pepper spray.
>>60727767
It was in 2013. They didn't find anything on him, so they let him go.
Btw, what bouut the other guy who was going to a gay pride parade do kill the folks there/?
>>60727647
Im talking about american statistics.Once you add up all mass shootings and similar incidents its like a mini genocide every year
>>60727851
>genocide
>in America
Are croats not taught the definition of genocide in school or something?
>>60727767
FBI watchlists are notoriously sketchy and put the wrong people on them though
>>60727851
No, once you add up all mass shooting in the US per year you come out with ~100 deaths a year.
>>60727930
b-but thats a huge number especially in a cunt of 320 million!
>>60727930
Croats are known to inflalte death numbers.
Ask the serbs.
>>60727976
kek
>>60727793
Heard about that too, apparently he got stopped. I think it might have actually been some civie with a gun that did.
>>60727767
I think it was smuggling illegals into the country that they were investigating.
The thing that confuses me about this is....the suggested motive was seeing two dudes kissing in public. The guy was born in the US, lived here for years, and he never saw two guys kissing?
And apparently it was such a moment to him that he jumped into a phone booth and came out full snackbar?
Things just aren't adding up on this.
>9/11 was done with planes and box cutters
>Boston Bombings were done with pressure cookers
>McVey used explosives
>so did the unabomber
>so did all those suicide bombers in the Middle East
The problem isn't guns. Rednecks and responsible firearm owners aren't committing massacres. Shitskins and disaffected middle class autists are.
>>60725652
>0,7
Worked with us burgers, i don't remember ever hearing about a gun murder here
Also i do shoot, i line quite near a gun range and i go with my friends
>>60728172
Well, I am totally pro guns but that is kinda stupid.
All the stuff you mentioned combined do not equal the gun murderers in the US of one year.
Guns are nice, but just give them to the right people.
USA doesnt have a gun problem it has a muslim problem
Ban all muslims
And make muslim free zones while were at it
>>60726348
>in ireland we have
>we have
>we
You are a swiss-yank hybrid. Not an ounce of irish blood in you.
>>60728682
I'm not saying give them to nignogs retard. I'm saying if terrorists really want to kill people, they would.
The amount of shootings in a population of 320 million is really not bad when you scale it down
People who claim that AmeRica needs to ban guns are illogical. Switzerland has guns and they don’t have nearly as many problems.
The real issues here are Americans. They are fat, stupid and have a primal urge to get shot. The only thing we can do is build a wall around the USA and quarantine them off from the rest of the world.
>#1 in reported angel sightings
How can the rest of the world even compete?
>>60725587
We have no Gun ban.
You can own as much guns as you want in Germany.
If you want to walk onto the street, shopingmiles, dance clubs, ice-Caffees &c. with a loaded gun, then you need a special permit and you need a reason to get this permit.
Oh and stuff like: "I'm a gun nutt" is not a valid reason.
Also your background will get checked.
If you can't prouve a highly increased need to carry a gun around with you , you wouln't get a permit.
But you can still shoot animal-rights activists at huntings. It's perfectly legal in Germany. But you have to say you took them for Game...and it isn't even a lie...
Also the best increase in security is not reached by owning guns, but having a neighbourhood patrol and neighbours aware of foreign activity. A walky talky and a Cellphone are so much more powerfull...
>>60725703
>they give people FREE FUCKING GUNS
beeing forced into service and into service over and over again for beeing in the reserve...
Your definition of "FREE" is pretty American...
I give you a car for "FREE" you just have to do unpaied shipments for me, the rest of your life.
>>60726184
You would have much less gun violence if your policemen wouldn't shout every teenager for making out.
You are a country occupied by your own police.
