>Ireland
>Belaruse
>>60720998
>9gag.com
>image.jpg
Get out
>Swedish
le 9gag army amirite?xDSO RANDOM
>>60720998
>Germany and little Germany
Kek
>Gaelic
I can see your concern OP, why would Ireland have Scotland's native language as our second most spoken language when it is Gaeilge our own native language.
>>60720998
Desperta ferro, aquí estem. Mediterrània als nostres peus.
Sent el poder a les teves mans. Coratge, metalls units per fi.
>>60720998
Polish is spoken by more people than Irish though.
>>60721336
E tota hora que oiran les batalles e feits d'armes, vaja-los lo cor que totes les victòries estan solament al poder e a la volentat de Déu, e no en poder de gents.
E qui ab veritat guerreja e va, Déus lo exalça e li dóna victòria, e que ab poques gents fa vençre e destrovir moltes qui ab supèrbia e malvestat van e es fien més en llur poder que en lo poder de Déu
https://youtu.be/lBUFByGX0w4?t=2m28s
>>60721195
Finland have a large Swedish speaking minority and they all learn Swedish in school.
>>60720998
>Belarus
>Belarusian
>>60720998
>1kb, 1x1
>>60720998
>Belarus
sad
>>60720998
>Turkish
>>60721057
It's sad, not funny.
STOP THE BULLY
IT'S THE ENGLISH BASTERDS THEY FUCKING STARVED MOST OF THE IRISH SPEAKERS TO DEATH
JUSTICE FOR BELARUS AND IRELAND
>>60720998
>Swedish
>>60722221
>Finland have a large Swedish speaking minority
Less than 5% and still reducing
>all learn Swedish in school
All are taught Swedish in schools, but maybe one in a thousand ever learns it past the "jag heter *your own name*" simply because it has absolutely no use in the everyday life.
I have nothing against Swedes or Swedish, but what I can't stand are the jew-like fennoswedes who thin the public blood to keep their locally useless language on life support for god only knows how long.
Will you just take these cunts if I promise we'll take all finnjävler off you hands?
>>60724402
Belorussian, Ukrainian and Russian(and a few others) are literally dialects of the same language.
>Moldova
>secondary language: Romanian
>Mirandesetugal
What the fuck is this?
>>60720998
>Butthurt belt
Tell me why they think they are somehow not russians again?
>>60720998
>Mirandese
I don't believe you, that's a meme language.
There can't possibly be more portuguese people speaking mirandese than english or spanish.
>>60722153
Why does Catalan looks like a retard trying to write in old French?
>>60726538
I like Jarmos dont take then :(((
>>60721195
I have been hoping for someone to post that image for almost two years
Thank you
>>60727044
>meme language.
Fits just right for a meme country like whatevertugal. Even their native language is basically meme spanish.
>>60720998
We've got more English speakers than Swedish speakers, that map is incorrect
>>60728136
It's a fucking 9fag map. They mixed up native speakers and 2nd language speakers.
>English in Italy
>>60720998
The fuck is Mirandese
What a fuck is Tatar? I think more people here can speak English than Tatar lol.
>>60726593
t. extremely educated ruskefag )))
>>60720998
>go to Border shoppen to buy some beer
>find my Carlsberg and head to the counter
>"Hello"
Guten tag!
>"Do you speak English?"
Deutsch oder Turkish
lol
>>60720998
In Germany it's Polish.
>turkish
>>60730251
They live in Caucasus nearly exclusively.
>>60726901
The Mirandese variant of the Astur-Leonese.
>>60730251
I refuse to believe there is a Russian who doesn't know what a Tatar is. I get an American not knowing and thinking it is a type of food, but not a Russian.
>>60730352
>take a ferry to Tallin
>the staff of any booze store is fluent in Finnish
rofl
>Germany: turkish
>France: not arabic
Explain
>>60730808
They live in the ural m8
>>60730808
nope
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatarstan
>>60730251
мoжeт кapтa пpo oфициaльный язык, нaпpимep кoтopый yкaзывaют пpи пepeпиcи нaceлeния
>>60730967
>>60730980
yeah sorry lads i think i mixed up with chechens.
>>60722153
>>60721336
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyFQVZ2h0V8
congratulations
>>60720998
>Dat Anglo Domination
>>60720998
>Turkish for Germany
>English for France
Calling bullshit on this map
>>60720998
What does "most popular" even mean?
Damn sure that it is French (an Spanish) by learners since you have to choose a second language in higher education and the normal choice is French with Spanish becoming bigger the last 10 years. When I went to school there was not even an option to take Turkish. For speakers (on some level) it will be the same since there are more people with an A-level education than T*rks.
>>60731174
its bullshit but who cares
>>60731174
Wikipedia says English is the most popular "Main Foreign Language" for France (34%).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_France
>Hungary
>English
>Not German
Wrong
>>60730612
i hate it when kurds make us look bad
you guys still think we blame everything on kurds
>>60726638
>Moldova and the regions stolen by ukraine
>not rightful Romanian clay
baka
>>60731258
U wot. Maybe in the westernmost parts, but overall more people speak English.
>>60732167
>i hate it when kurds make us look bad
>why do you guys think we blame everything on the kurds
You're the same fucking thing, jesus christ just shut up already
>>60732264
>You are the same fucking thing
>tell kurds are not a part of turkey
yeah whatever you say, you sound hypocrite
>>60721147
mv -i image.jpg "$( date +%s ).jpg"
>English
>Look at U.K
>Not French
fugg.
>>60720998
>SECOND MOST POPULAR FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>SECOND MOST POPULAR FOREIGN LANGUAGE
>SECOND MOST POPULAR FOREIGN LANGUAGE
well, I'm glad it's at least not french here... filthy turks, tough
>sweden
>english
first foreign language arabic then I guess
also
>le 9gag ebin xDxDxD
>>60734036
It's second most popular language
>>60726538
I lived in Finland all of last year, and you're quite downplaying how common Swedish is. I was actually quite surprised by how it is treated there - better than we treat French in our English provinces and French is 20% of our population overall.
That 5% number is for people who speak Swedish as a first language at home - but you're quite downplaying the amount of Finns who speak Swedish well, and who really did stick with it through school. I met a good handful of Finns who spoke Swedish who were not Finlandsvenska. It is not a useless language. No language is useless. You sound like me when I took French in school, and then I gave it up, thinking it was useless. The opportunity to learn another language is a very good skill.
Pic is one taken where my relatives live, in Ostrobothnia - or as you'd call Pohjanmaa I believe.
>>60734367
>You sound like me when I took French in school, and then I gave it up, thinking it was useless
darkness_my_old_friend.webm
>>60734442
>tfw I had the opportunity to learn another language for free and gave it up
>>60734036
Get rekt by facts, germany is a lost cause
>>60720998
>Poland
>English
>England
>Polish
seems fair desu
>>60734367
We've generally negative views about swedish as it marks the time we were a colony. We're younger nation than canada and pretty patriotic.
And the fact that we're forced to learn a country's language whose people still act arrogant and look down to us even after the events of WW2. It isn't about the language but the people who speak it
>>60734586
>tfw people surrender to the French language
>>60734958
>we were a colony
No you fucking weren't. Finland has never been a colony, it was a fully incorporated part of Sweden for 600 years. The notion of a nation state or a national identity came long after that.
>>60734367
Most Finns don't live in Pohjanmaa.
>>60735047
ah, Sweden and it's enriched views on colonialism. But enjoy your niggers, your second most popular language is now Arabic, karma is a bitch
>>60735047
Next you're going to say that we're brother nations
>>60735047
Finns and swedes were always differentiated in contemporary letters and official accounts though, mostly to make it clear to the reader how uncivilised and barbaric the so called "eastlanders" were. You're fooling yourself if you think they thought of them as swedes or the people living here thought of themselves as swedes.
>>60720998
Are you even trying lad? Need to add in the Portugal meme and make them Arabic or something
>>60734958
You're forgetting I lived in Finland. I've heard this all before.
>>60735047
Jaha, min vän.
>>60735147
your second most popular language is now Arabic
Our second most popular language is English. Yours, however, seems to be depression, followed by alcoholism and a stagnating economy
>Finland
>Belarus
>UK
>Germany
>Austria
>>60732505
>meanwhile in the best areas live Greeks
>>60735147
It's still Finnish you fucking retard.
>>60735210
Kill yourself.
>>60735215
As I said, the nation state and national identity came long after that. People primarily identified with their village, family or province. There's was a lot of people living in Sweden proper that similarly didn't think much of the fact that they were Swedish. It's completely backwards to apply our modern day notion of the nation state to the past and you'll never get a clear picture if you do.
>>60735349
maybe genetically, yes but most of the pro-atatürk nationalists live in the coastline cities of turkey
>>60735056
Nor did I. I lived in Helsinki.
>>60735337
If Australia was in that image it would be Chinese :)
>>60735394
>Kill yourself.
You first.
No, but seriously, why some swedes seem to think that there were and are any brotherly about our relations? We were your eastland peasants, nothing more
>>60735509
>eastland peasants
Confirmed by statistics
>>60735509
>eastern peasants, nothing more
Finns are so annoyingly pessimistic and love to refuse to listen. I love Finns because you guys are really great when you're not like this, but I do dislike this about you strongly.
>>60735465
that or Italian. Nice proxy though
>>60735310
>You're forgetting I lived in Finland.
Still you don't seem to get it
Probably because you don't have bond to this swampcunt besides you distant relatives
>>60735620
Not proxy
>>60735394
We're not talking about nation states though, we're talking population groups that can be differentiated based on outer appearance, language or customs and by which people have been categorized for as long as people have had the mentally capacity to differentiate rocks from water.
>>60735509
The nobility oppressed everyone, not just Finns. Sweden at the time wasn't a very nice place for any low born, it was poor and miserable.
The king and high lords didn't give two shits about peasants whether they were Swedes or Finns. I don't know why Finns have such a victim mentality and this idea that they're such a special little snowflake that only they were oppressed and treated unfairly.
>>60735565
Aha. there it is. Took actually pretty long to get that swedish arrogance to show up
>>60735690
Are you investing in property here? Should I learn Mandarin if I want to be more employable in the future?
>>60735698
It's not that simple and you're still looking at it through your nation state tinted glasses. Denmark, Sweden and Norway pretty much share the same language, very similar cultures and look the same. Yet we've never been able to get along. There's more to it than just being similar.
>>60735735
I'm not in Australia. I have visited a few times but I try to use English as much as possible. A English friend of mine said it is polite to try and speak the language of the country you are visiting.
Yes. There are many foreign students who come to China to study Chinese
>>60735699
>a victim mentality
Wouldn't call it that. More like that we want to identify us as an own nation thus the negative attitude towards swedish language
And that brotherly nations -thing is bullshit as you clearly recognized as uncivilized eastlanders, not swedish even though we were part your country hundreds of years
>>60720998
IT'S CALLED IRISH, NOT GAELIC, RÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍÍ
>>60726593
That's not true, Russian learning Pole here and both seem about as much similar to Polish as to Russian. With some Russian I can understand like 90% of both of them, at least written.
>>60735805
That's all very nice but it still doesn't change the fact that finnic people were identified as a separate group from swedes within the kingdom. Admittedly in foreign countries they didn't make any kind of distinction and referred to finns as swedes, like in the case of daniel cajanus.
>>60735904
>More like that we want to identify us as an own nation thus the negative attitude towards swedish language
I get that, but if you have that sort of attitude towards history then you are bound to misinterpret it. There was no Finnish national identity until around the mid 1800s. You can't look at history and pretend that there was. I'm not saying that they identified as Swedes, they probably didn't. But they sure as fuck didn't identify with modern Finland either.
>you clearly recognized as uncivilized eastlanders
This special snowflake shit again? You don't think that the people in Stockholm thought very highly of people living in far away provinces? You think Scanians were highly regarded? Or the Northerners?
This is virtually always the case in large countries at the time. Far away provinces are less valued than the core of the nation (which happened to be the area immediately surrounding Stockholm and Åbo (Turku) at the time).
>>60736034
And so were many other groups in Sweden. What's your point? We still don't see people from Scania being properly Swedish and they don't see themselves that way either. But they're still Swedish at the end of the day, even though they're a bit bullied for being half-danish.
>>60727084
Why does French looks like a retard writing Italian but skipping letters and replacing S with X and ^?
>>60727084
Laugh it up, my poor uncultured friend, but the Old Catalan of that time was exactly the same language as Occitan, the language of the troubadours.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occitano-Romance_languages
>During the Middle Ages, for five centuries (8th to 13th) of political and social convergence of these territories, there was no clear distinction or separation between Occitan and Catalan. For instance, the Provençal troubadour, Albertet de Sestaró, says: "Monks, tell me which according to your knowledge are better: the French or the Catalans? and here I shall put Gascony, Provence, Limousin, Auvergne and Viennois while there shall be the land of the two kings."[2] In Marseille, a typical Provençal song is called 'Catalan song'. (M. Milà i Fontanals, De los Trobadores en España, p. 487)
>>60720998
>French is the SECOND most popular language in Belgium
And don't y'all forget it.
>>60722153
>E toda hora que ??? as batalhas e feitos de armas, ???-los o coração que todas as vitórias estão somente ao poder e à vontade de Deus, e não em poder da gente.
>And every hour that ??? the battles and army realizations, ??? them the heart that all the victories are only under the power and will of God, and not the power of people.
Fuck. I love older versions of Romance languages.
>>60736158
>There was no Finnish national identity until around the mid 1800s
But our national identity developing during 1800s was very much revolving around the old culture we had like folk poetry, songs and tales.
Being part of russia was pretty productive century as we could form our identity almost immediately we separated from sweden
>>60736624
>revolving around the old culture we had like folk poetry, songs and tales
Yes, this is fairly common practice for anyone building a national identity.
>Being part of russia was pretty productive century as we could form our identity almost immediately we separated from sweden
Good for you
>>60720998
I speak Belarusian
>>60736200
>What's your point?
That finns never were swedes. Finnics didn't magically disappear in 1100's and then magically reappeared in 1809. Claiming we were just goes to show that swedes don't honestly care about the history between our cunts or people, which is perfectly fine. Just don't pretend you actually know anything about it.
>>60735394
>It's still Finnish you fucking retard.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/07/finnish-was-the-second-language-of-sweden-for-centuries-now-arabic-is-overtaking-it/
>Parkvall's study focused on native languages rather than second languages, which he says are a better judge of what languages are actually spoken in a country (while English is widely spoken in Sweden, relatively few are native speakers). According to Sveriges Radio, in 2012 there were 200,000 people in Sweden who spoke Finnish as their native language, while 155,000 spoke Arabic.
>Parkvall told WorldViews that the influx of refugees and migrants from the Middle East has shifted the balance in favor of Arabic over the past few years. Given the lack of hard data, it's hard to say exactly when Arabic will overtake Finnish, Parkvall said, but he offered an estimate: "Sort of now."
>>60736515
The "tota hora que oiran" line is a mannerism of the time. It's hard to translate but it would be something like "always you hear this" or "if you hear this". Kinda the same with "vaja-los lo cor", wich roughly translated would be like "the heart goes with them" it would probably be something like "you can heartily believe" in a way that sounds like a vow, although it could have a different significate.
>E tota hora que oiran les batalles e feits d'armes, vaja-los lo cor que totes les victòries estan solament al poder e a la volentat de Déu, e no en poder de gents.
And when you hear the battles and deeds of arms, you can heartily believe that all victories are only at the will and power of God, and not in the power of people.
>>60735565
does that map even consider population density?
less populated areas would be way more susceptible to a single suicide, right?
>>60736747
You didn't get my point? That we for some wierd reason didn't bother developing our culture and identity during the hundreds of years we were part of you but only after russia invaded us
National identity was there had been some time, and started to rise as we got more freedom
>>60737156
Thanks for the translation... besides the older expressions, the text is surprisingly easy to read.
>>60735431
that explains it
Helsinki is not really part of Finland.. it's just there, like a a pus filled cyst waiting to be cut off
>>60737228
The numbers are per 100 000 inhabitants, so yes.
The numbers can be thrown off easier in less populated areas though.
>>60734036
>SECOND MOST POPULAR LANGUAGE
Get your facts right.
>>60737470
Murders in 2014:
Finland 89
Sweden 87
So yeah, maybe a little thrown off
>>60736907
>That finns never were swedes
If you're going to discuss history then please leave your modern day narrative where it belongs: in the modern day. Being a Swede is a very modern notion. As I said and that I can only assume you must have missed, the notion of a national identity is a modern one. Most people in Sweden back then probably didn't identity very strongly with Sweden.
You make it seem as though we invaded the country Finland. There was no fucking Finland. The Finns might have had more in common with each other but they were largely dispersed.
But you're right, they were still Finns and they didn't stop existing. I'm not suggesting that. What I'm saying is that being "Swedish" never necessitated speaking Swedish, looking like people around Stockholm or sharing their culture. Indeed most of Sweden didn't. Sweden was a collection of different people, speaking different languages and having different cultures. Swedish might have been the majority language but it was far from the only language spoken in Sweden. For god sake, Swedish was only made our official language in 2012.
Once again, this notion of "one nation, one language" is. a. modern. one.
If you are going to argue that Finns were never Swedes then you'll also have to argue that Gutes are not Swedish. Scanians are not Swedish. The people of Jämtland, Härjedalen and Bohuslän (historically Norwegian) are not Swedish. Lapplanders are not Swedish. And so and so forth. As you can see it rapidly gets ridiculous and if the only reason these people are Swedes today is because they're part of Sweden, then by extension the Finns back then were Swedes, too.
Ultimately what made someone a Swede back then was an allegiance to the crown. That's all the king and nobility really cared about.
>>60727900
Denmark promotes Lego, even on 4chan
>>60737290
The other line:
>E qui ab veritat guerreja e va, Déus lo exalça e li dóna victòria, e que ab poques gents fa vençre e destrovir moltes qui ab supèrbia e malvestat van e es fien més en llur poder que en lo poder de Déu
And who with truth fights and goes, God exalts him and gives him victory, and with few people he destroys and makes victory over the many who with arrogance and wickedness trust more in their own power than in the power of God.
>>60737634
But Finland only has 5.4 million inhabitants compared to Sweden's 9.6 million, so the murder rate numbers are correct.
>>60735923
MYSTIC KNIGHTS HAVE COME TO SAVE OUR LIVES
>>60720998
>Germany
>Turkish
I shouldn't laugh so much, not good for the lungs.
>>60735431
>Helsinkians
>actually knowing Swedish
wew lad
t. helsinki-fag
>>60732167
Holy shit. The Turks even blame their memes on the Kurds.
>>60739046
i'm not blaming anyone he is obviously a kurd can't you fucking read?
>>60720998
>UK
>Germanoy
>>60720998
>UK: Polish
>Poland: English
noice
