What Makes Them Poor?
>>60631756
Washington Consensus (World Bank, IMF, WTO etc.).
The few countries wish ignored the "structural adjustment programmes" of the Washington Consensus were the ones which became rich. All the others got poorer.
exploitation of the european
low enthusiasm for education
corrupt governments
Bad colonization
>>60631814
Pretty much
THE WHITE MAN KEEPING US DOWN
>>60631756
Christianity
>>60631814
>>60632475
lmao
u guys are actually clueless
>le evil corporation want them to be poor
for_what_purpose.jpg
>>60632728
RACISM. OPRESSION.
>>60632785
;_;
Well my country was pretty much in good form in the 70's (we actually were known as the little Japan, because we had been developing really fast) but then civil war happened, the USA had to do their thing and intervene, then gangs happened in the USA and then America deported them all back to this war thorn country where they evolved in numbers pretty quick, and yeah, the rest is history.
>>60631756
Our inherently corrupt and nepotistic culture.
>>60632891
CHECK YOUR PRIVILEGE SHITLORD
>>60632929
Why don't you blame gommies? Aren't you implying South Korea wasn't a shithole few decades ago?
>>60632968
I'm gonna assume you meant to quote the post above.
reggaeton and cumbia ruined LatAm forever
>>60632728
>le evil corporation want them to be poor
They are really evil. Because they prefer some countries stay poor meanwhile your countries are becoming more and more brown.
>>60631756
Socialism, combined with blaming YANQUI IMPERIALISTS for all their problems.
>>60631756
South America? American exceptionalism.
SEA?
Singapore isn't poor.
The rest is our fault obviously
memes
>>60633048
shanki puto
>>60632728
My guess could be that (and I'm not saying that this is what is really happening, but, yeah) they want to fuck Centro America and Mexico so they keep sending illegals to the USA (who work for salaries that no sane white American would accept).
My country's police and military has killed a lot of gangsters this past few months (which is amazing) but nope USA already told them that if they keep violating the human rights of those sub humans they will take some actions... Can you believe them?? it's like they want us to keep going to USA illegally...
>>60633048
You've been keeping South America down for decades. We taught you this.
>>60633049
I don't get why America didn't do the same shit as South Korea in Mexico or any other Latin American country.
Now they will become third world because there are no first world latin american countries for poor people immigrate.
>>60631756
korea was the same or far worse until quite recently. do you know even of that?
why dont you look into the realistic reason why you could grow up and get educated unlike those. i just tell you this without a netouyo agenda.
researching the fact about yourself and get the truth are probably the most important thing to do now for a bunch of young koreans. pull that shitty question and instead just do it.
>>60633242
>netouyo
I've learned something new today.
I think we're doing fine sempaitachi.
@60633328
27 anios de soledad
>>60631756
lack of passion
>>60632728
Ask yourself the reverse
>>60632728
Because if they keep them poor then they will be an easy source of cheap labour, their governments will be easier to corrupt, and the people will be less likely to demand higher wages or better working conditions since they are desperate or their governments will crack their head open.
Not really that complicated.
>>60631814
Botswana is like the one african country that refused the washington consensus / imf 'aid' and they're like the only african country run by africans in good financial situation and stable politics..
>>60633230
Mexico to the States is like Ireland to Britain, well.. Us and Ireland are lads now.
The states still treat Mexico like animals.
Koreans adore the states. I hear even Korean lads get cut. I mean why? Asians are respectful lads.
Shit mentality.
Having said that, South America isn't that poor actually when compared to the whole world.
It's like a world middle class.
>>60633048
>there are people who unironically believe that neo-imperialism isn't a thing
>>60633230
>I don't get why America didn't do the same shit as South Korea in Mexico or any other Latin American country.Now they will become third world because there are no first world latin american countries for poor people immigrate.
we are the american propaganda tool of capitalism so we were lucky
as far as latin america goes, pervasive anti-intellectualism and a kind of victim complex culture that tries really hard to analyse and blame all of our problems on colonisation/imperialism
third world east asians have a culture of thinking they as individuals are at fault for being undeveloped and shitty, and study/work really hard to fix their situation
latin americans focus on how their thirdworldness was/is exclusively to blame on exploitation by developed countries, not trying at all to improve the situation by themselves, instead only looking for more varied ways to play the victim
>>60633483
Exactly.
The world companies don't need more demand. They need more cheap supply.
Ask yourself why commodities have fallen so much these last 3 years.
>>60633520
They also are now on IMF aid and are in recession.
Coincidence?
>>60633730
Ah yes my son. How we have taught you.
>>60633242
>korea was the same or far worse until quite recently. do you know even of that?why dont you look into the realistic reason why you could grow up and get educated unlike those. i just tell you this without a netouyo agenda.researching the fact about yourself and get the truth are probably the most important thing to do now for a bunch of young koreans. pull that shitty question and instead just do it.
>t. beneficiary of the korean war, thousands of investment from the us
fuck japan shit japs
I don't know the cause, i think we are the problem in this country.
Brown skin.
>>60633808
Well, I mean, we had nothing to do with you fucking Mexico or Philippines.
>>60633730
Companies are always looking for cheap sources of resources and labour m8. The cheaper their product is to produce, the greater their profit.
>>60633828
read the thread, mostly everyone is right. just gotta combine all the reasons into a single reality
The fact we overthrew a bunch of their democratically elected goverments for the left half for bananas probably has something to do with it
>>60631756
politics
>>60633768
IMF "aid" is a scam, it always comes with way too many strings attached and is designed to be impossible to pay back. Then comes the austerity, which always makes things worse.
The IMF basically brought down Yugoslavia, well that an ethnic tensions.
>>60633828
You were our sons first trip into empire.
Thank Christ we for once were not involved.
>>60631756
The lack of wealth?
>>60633863
Tbh I find the "shitty mentality" theory hard to believe. If you asked a hundred different economists why these areas are poor I seriously doubt any of them would say "lol it's because they suck".
>>60633912
Yeah, everyone remembers how the US organized coupes in Brazil, Indonesia, Malaysia, Burma, and Thailand.
>>60633639
South Korea had ALL OF THESE PROBLEMS.
They were just lucky because they received lot of money from US. Their right wing is strong.
America is become more and more gommie. We need to make our right wing grow alone.
>>60633970
How do you explain rampant corruption and crime?
>>60631756
Our culture is shit
>>60633961
Deep.
Inferior genes.
Communism and brown skin.
>>60634044
Your cultures are*
Not shit.
>>60634033
Corruption sure, but that's different than basically suggesting that people in these countries are poor because the people are just too lazy or shitty to build a functioning society.
Look at the improvements in Africa in recent years, do you really believe that those were the result of people just deciding not to be poor anymore?
In Brazil's case it's mostly the culture: violence, corruption, trying to take advantage of others at any cost, etc.
>>60633961
wise man
>>60633230
I always asked myself about it.
>>60631756
America did not invest in them
>>60633995
You actually did back a radical right wing dictatorship in Indonesia throughout the Cold War, you did back a coup in Brazil in '64, and then there was that whole Indochina thing you may remember.
>>60634155
We invest in you Thailand, Or should I say Von Thailad.
>>60633995
wew lad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_Indonesia
>>60633828
I think we are all the problem.
Like a virus on this planet.
And the planet is gonna burn us off it.
>>60634139
I'm talking about South America. We are established countries with about 200 years of independence each, following european laws, religion, langauges and governments with massive natural resources and small population.
We are a gigantic failure because of our terrible culture and until that changes we will forever remain a shithole.
Read this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viveza_criolla
>>60633995
Are you being ironic?
>>60634178
But we did
What was 97'
>>60634250
We, taught you 19th century destruction, you are us too. You learned how to maintain a country by the same nefarious means, to this day.
>>60631756
In Brazil? This guy.
>>60634385
We are going to take this world down with us.
>>60634519
That's true. Republics are a dogshit form of government that are easily corrupted.
Because of Finns
dank memes doomed south america
>>60633561
this. it could be worse
>>60634519
>implying the emprie was any better
go back to the history classes m8
>>60633561
>Greytugal
>>60633812
>just another gookpongs kneejerk reaction shit
confirmed you are a stupid gookpong, you always intentionally neglect every scientific and proven economical statistics about your growth, or avoid touching it, and then just get to the point of making up "we wuz miraclez n shit".
on top of that sadly that the same goes for even korean academics. they allow those unscientific bullshit to exist in academic scenes for that muh ethnicism and miraclez and as a result there scam artists go everywhere.
just realize thats what makes you prevent yourself from getting an achievement of basic science and objective social science critiques to your society.
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for those dont know what "Gookpong" means
its the equivalence of netouyo, the korean version of /pol/ack. they are against anything related to japan and they are always in denial.
>>60634344
in the case of South East Asia, you did. and they're improving compared to 10+ years ago
but South America will always be the corner of the world that nobody looks at
you can speculate as many possible wars in the future happening in SouthAm but it's all sci-fi
>>60633561
mirin that Timor-Leste
Lack of funding to education, actually
>>60633561
what ancient data set does this map use? china's long surpassed brazil, and the conesur countries have long surpassed pooptugal in gdp/capita
>>60633561
>mfw same GPD as two African countries
Get me out of this country full of light skinned nigs!!!!
>>60631814
Lmfao
historical ignorance is always hilarious
you really think this shit can be traced back to mid-20th century Keynesian programs even though it had been like this for the past 400 or so years by then
It's called the atlantic economy, post-renaissance early capitalism and early globalism created strong european economies in the wake of global trade, the chinese and indians who have historically had the more dominant economies didn't have anything to buy from Europe as they were mostly just exporters and their rulers rejected a form of economy that the state didn't have control over, however the sheer amount of european money being pumped into their economies made them reliant on international trade - their unwillingness to be competetive made their economies stagnate while Europe's advanced
As for South America, they were pretty much BTFO during the colonization process
This isn't an argument for or against capitalism as much as it is objective history in the shortest summary of which i can write. personally i'm not defensive of capitalism or globalism at all but i am very defensive of historical fact, so please shave your neckbeards
>>60633328
this, colombia its not that poor
>>60633328
>>60635441
>t. Shakira
Chile is not that poor, or not as the rest of southamerican countries.
>>60635146
>unwillingness
You make it seem like they had much of a choice.
U S A
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>>60633995
Uhh. Not in Malaysia. We were under the British and still on good terms when we got independence. There were no coups ever in our history. Though the Hillary think tank did try to fund and help the Anwar movement but that had run out of steam.
>>60635835
Oh, you were being ironic. My apologies.
>>60631756
Communists
>>60633024
Best post in the whole thread.
>whAts mAkeS tHem pOor?
>>60631756
poor? we are literally as rich as Ukraine here mate.
>>60631756
Reminder that Chile is a developed country.
>>60633202
Did the earthquake cause you much damage?
>>60636228
You.
>>60636340
i'm living the good life
>>60633230
Mexico nationalized all their industries and small minded populist socialist governments scare people into keeping foreign investment away.
Nationalized monopolies are the worst thing that a government can do. Unless you have exceptional amounts of a resource like China or Saudi Arabia it will keep everyone poor.
Carlos Slim is the benefactor of a corrupt system.
>>60633328
A result of the drug war ending? Did American intervention actually help a country?
The climate
Soros the fucking Jew tried to destroy the region in the 90s, and nearly succeeded. We should have gone after him like the Mossad would have.
>>60636057
Sadly
>>60636253
>>60635806
We are as poor as the Peruvian or Colombian, since 95% of the wealth is in the hands of private (family Angelini, the Luksic family Matte) but the ignorant people still believe that Chile is a great country and constructions like " Costanera center "represent the wealth of Chile, but this building belongs to a German called Horst Paulmann and I could continue naming examples like this.
>>60631868
mostly this
>>60636926
This is just my American perspective and socialists might disagree with me but I don't think it matters that only one guy owns that building.
My definition of a developed country is as follows:
If someone works hard in school can they get a job that will provide income enough that they can buy a house, a car and raise a family. Will their children have the same opportunity to succeed?
So back to the big building.
The wealth is generated by the end result. The prosperity comes from the job opportunities provided to the engineers and architects who designed and built it. And when it is built some Chilean company may rent it as their headquarters and such a great furnishing makes them look like a world-class company to foreign investors and helps them land some huge deal. This helps the company grow and employ even more Chileans.
So again, just because the building is owned by some rich guy doesn't mean it's like a castle that doesn't help anyone else.
And similarly, just because the copper mining corporation is owned by some billionaire doesn't mean the average Chilean can't succeed by studying geological engineering and landing a six figure job with the company.
What do you think? Do Chileans not have opportunities to succeed?
>>60637218
Pretty much, being a 'nouveau rich' starting from the absolute bottom is attainable through hard work.
There are still many obstacles on our way to leveling the field of life opportunities, but we're getting there.
>>60631868
More or less this.
I wish our corrupt politicians and companies were like yours, instead of robbing us, they tried to rob in foreign countries, and once outed, they committed suicide or just quit.
>>60632728
cheap labor with no obligations to pay social security.
Can't speak for the others, but we're poor because every leader since the 1960s only cared about themselves and their tiny circle of friends.
We wuz the second richest country in SEA, on the fast track to becoming a developed nation, but there was a coup de tat and the guy implemented a corrupted, deformed version of Maoism. My father regularly talks about a time when the government allowed students to use only 3 pencils a year, so he had to use them until they were so short that he couldn't even hold them.
>>60637473
>>60637473
that is good to hear.
Because they are a bad goy.
>>60631756
>>60638420
>>60631756
USA
not even memeing
