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From the mainstream news:
>Democratic communities can do what states have failed to achieve by reacting to the real crisis Europe is facing today: the racist and nationalist backlash throughout the continent.
From internet news:
>Sexual violence in Germany has skyrocketed since Angela Merkel allowed more than one million mostly male migrants from Africa, Asia and the Middle East into the country. The crimes are being downplayed by the authorities, apparently to avoid fueling anti-immigration sentiments.
Please don't turn this into /pol/
Whats the real story?
Clearly the news won't tell it.
I want to know how the refugee crisis has effected you personally.
How has you're life been changed?
>>60371991
watch this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Na_wxwhgDMA
>>60372022
BBC? More like KKK! This is outrageous.
Hasn't effected me one bit, and most of my Euro mates (German,French,and Serbian) say it hasn't effected them hardly at all, it's only if you are in the populous big cities.
>>60372022
>>60372116
>Wants to hear from europoors.
>CUM thread.
Good work guys.
>>60372476
How big was the city where those 1400 girls got felt up?
Germany trying to prevent the formation of ethnic ghettos by forcing brown people to live in the country side is probably a smart move, but not sure.
>>60372544
~1m people
the statistical area is 3m people
>>60371991
Never affected me and most likely never will. The only syrians i ever saw besides a hipster kebab shop owner, i saw them in the parisian metro.
What really affects the french and /pol/ will never think of it is the sellout """""""socialist"""""" (they've never been truly left) that is trying to destroy our work laws to please companies.
Thus we have plenty of strikes and the main work union block oil refineries and nuclear plants. We have plenty if stock so its still honhon. If the law passes everybody will go nonon
>>60372904
you guys have a pretty good system over there 2bh mad jealous famille
>>60372022
Who honestly cares hahaha what the fuck.
>>60372022
What a bunch of fucking pussies.
>>60372904
Thanks for a serious reply.
>Thus we have plenty of strikes and the main work union block oil refineries and nuclear plants. We have plenty if stock so its still honhon. If the law passes everybody will go nonon
I'm a bit lost with this sentence. honhon? nonnon?
France is facing no refugee crisis. We barely welcome three dozens of thousands of them. They don't want to come in France and that's why they are crowding at the english border.
>>60376128
>FRANCE said Monday that it would take in 24,000 refugees under a European Union-wide quota system that some member states are likely to reject.
http://www.immigration.ca/en/quebecimmigration-topmenu/187-canada-immigration-news-articles/2015/september/1992-countries-for-syrian-refugees.html
Is this false?
>>60372022
hahaha
>>60371991
France is a Muslim shit hole. The old saying Africa begins at the Pyrhenees is outdated. It begins at France. Europe should build a wall from Italy to Belgium.
>>60377151
>It begins at France. Europe should build a wall from Italy to Belgium.
I hear this a lot from /pol/ but not from people I actually know in Europe.
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>>60372022
>>60376061
He means that right now it's still good but if they vote the law shit gon get real serious yo.
>>60377585
What are the odds of them getting rid of the law?
>>60377195
You don't seem like the type who knows anyone outside your basement but why didn't you ask those people instead of starting this thread? You'll never get a straight answer from the French here because they're all Muslims.
>>60371991
The only way refugees have affected me is national debate and edgy outsiders.
It literally hasn't
>>60377935
except this maybe
havent seen a single one 2bh. i think it's more of a mainland yuro thing
>>60376248
lol at that image
>it doesn't matter until it affects me
I mean we're not dealing with chinks or spics here
we're talking lebs, wogs, ragheads, chinks just raise your real estate, lower quality, and kill animals. Spics just lower real estate, lower quality, and keep animals.
The kinds of immigrants Europe is getting are the worst in the entire world, they commit the most crimes and are cultural imperialists due to muh shariah and muh oppression
>>60377799
Seems like a bit of a generalisation because you don't like their answers desu. It must be easier to say they're this or that, than accept it.
>>60381585
>American media consumers
All dutch research so far pointed to comparable or less crimes by refugees.
And even the worst immigrants here commit less crimes than the average American
>>60371991
Haven't had much personal experience with the refugees, but my teacher friend reports that the Syrian refugees coming here are actually pretty educated since they actually lived in a functional society before it collapsed. They have some backwards cultural attitudes but sound pretty well behaved overall. The African and Afghan refugees seem to have a hard time adjusting though, since they've grown up in irredeemably fucked societies and a lot of them has seen some shit.
>>60371991
Rise of the right-wing cenophobic sentiments is the only way it affects us
Media is full of refugee crisis and some weaker individuals are going bonkers because of it
>>60371991
It didn't.
But I still don't want them here.
Fuck off from europe faggots
>>60383288
>88
>>60371991
>Whats the real story?
Refugees keep coming, and cost hideous amounts of money. They are still predominantly males from Africa, rather than families from Iraq and Syria, so the term 'refugees' is honestly quite debatable.. They're just migrants.
>Clearly the news won't tell it.
It does though, just not the big international media, because they're not in the business of covering reality. They're in the business of pushing a narrative, and that narrative is that the current flow of refugees are all miserable sad families from war torn countries that need our love and attention... Even though in reality most are African men looking for a brighter economical future that have little to no skills and commit a disproportionate amount of crimes. They're also not eligible for asylum in 99% of cases, but they're clogging up the system so that those who DO actually have a reasonable claim to asylum have to wait for months...
>I want to know how the refugee crisis has effected you personally.
>How has you're life been changed?
It hasn't. Literally 0%, except for the fact that watching the news makes me cringe when they flat out lie about where these migrants are from, who they are and what they cause.
hasn't affected me. probably because our government hand picked the regugees and made sure it wasn't all single men. the refugee center is next to a big shopping mall, so I've seen quite a few of them. I haven't tried talking to one, they seem like assholes desu and only speak arabic or whatever their language is. refugees aren't a problem, but the immigrants from sub-saharan africa are, they're fucking horrible.
>>60383413
>tfw moving to rotterdam next fall
how fucked am I?
>>60382474
>All dutch research so far pointed to comparable or less crimes by refugees.
That's a bit misleading because the vast majority of people in Dutch statistics are not refugees and are not registered as such. Look for stats concerning 'uitgeprocedeerde asielzoekers' (which most people that cannot get refugee status end up as).. They're quite a bit more likely to commit crimes.
>>60372022
>the main guy is also a sort of brown-looking-chap
Would the BBC have even made this documentary if him and his wife were both 100% English?
>>60383672
Rotterdam has some shit neighborhoods, but it isn't all shit. I don't come there often but from what I hear it's upcoming now.. A bit hipster even. Housing is affordable, and there's a lot of hip modern stuff going on.. That said, it's one of the most multicultural cities in the country (if not THE most) and that comes with certain problems and annoyances.
>>60376248
Not him but
>24 000
Literally nothing
We have like 5 MILLIONS of 2nd 3rd 4th generation Algerians here and they fucking suck, if you add 24 000 Syrians in there how would you even notice ?
It's a drop in the ocean
France doesn't have a refugee problem Germany does.
No France has a muslim problem that has been here like 20 years already so nobody gives that much of a shit about Syrians
In fact arguably Syrian refugees would make France whiter
>>60371991
The actual crisis being referred to is the syrian civil war, but a complete picture includes the fallout of the US/NATO military operations in Afghanistan, Iraq and Libya, as well as the failure of central african states due to poverty and armed conflict. The presence of refugees/migrants in Europe is not as crisis-like, but it still generates problems in regards to logistics, communication and settling, as well as more complex problems like cultural clashes, especially in the sense of competing legalities.
What's really fueling the sensational approach to the while thing is that this all coincidences with widespread disillusionment and disappointment the european working and middle class are feeling in regards to the current inequal and volatile economic system and the ceremonial nature of western democratic institutions (especially due to the EU's increasingly federalist behavior).
>>60383690
well, I agree that we should be harder on denied immigrants.
Still, in the Netherlands there have been no major incidents committed by refugees. In fact, the biggest incidents are by protestors, namely that one city hall storming.
True, they kinda had it coming, but storming a city hall? That's disproportional
>>60384397
very interesting thanks
>>60371991
There are Syrian refugees in my country ATM.
No murders.
No bombings.
No gang rapes.
Haven't heard from anything on the media or online, probably because our government has either a) silenced any talks on immigrants b) has carefully picked our immigrants so they don't cause a fucking ruckus c) the Syrian refugees that my country has received aren't that bad or d) the prevalent Aussie culture of "don't care where you come from, don't act like a shit cunt" might have rubbed off on them.
Honestly, I don't feel effected by immigrants at all. I've mentioned that I live near an African community, who's parents/ grand parents were first generation refugees. Haven't committed any crimes, nice people.
I don't know why /pol/fags or the media insists on lying to us.
>>60384245
>Syrian refugees would make France whiter
How So? I don't mean this as an offence but you all seem pretty chilled with different ethnicities last time I visited
>>60384397
This is very intelligently put, ystäväni
>>60389531
outrage sells
>>60389609
well they are whiter than algerians, obviously if wd mix them together it will make algerians white again
>>60390012
That it does.
>>60390105
Ahhhh
Never understood why race mixing is a bad thing tbqph. Or breeding with your own race for that matter.
>>60389531
>muh anecdotes
>>60390207
it's not
if minorities actually mixed they wouldnt be a problem demographically at all
but if they have arab/arab couples with 5 children they are
yup like it or not sarkozy was right we got to make them racemix
>>60390211
Not an argument.
Are you offended that this doesn't fit your narrative?
>>60390641
>7 hours apart
>>60371991
what was that show
>>60390880
John Oliver or something?
>>60390880
Some stupid thing about how white people are going to go extinct because they are not having kids.
Right before the Paris bombings he went on a 20 minute rant about how Europe is racist for not accepting more migrants. Ended it with pic related.
>>60391833
english people were a mistake
>>60372997
It's a bit sad that a unique bit a British culture got rubbed out.
>>60391833
>Some stupid thing about how white people are going to go extinct because they are not having kids.
Are you fucking serious
>>60395685
What he said was, if French people don't accept immigrants and don't have more children, THIS is their future. It's one or the other.
>>60396143
this is the stupidest fucking thing I've ever heard. who in their right mind thinks underpopulation is a problem? Christ I hate Mr. Current Year, Jon Stewart to his credit could at least usually make points with some wit
>>60396143
it was a poor choice of country, as France is one of the few European countries that won't face a negative change in population in the next 50 or so years.
Germany will be the most negative without migration, probably one of the reasons Merkel did what she did.
>>60396358
literally every nation is concerned about underpopulation. The working force shrinks, while still having to pay for the pensions of elderly people.
>>60392357
Did it really get rubbed out? like that sort of thing has been happening everywhere, people used to have tight nit communities but now it's not like that anymore, the pub thing I don't understand people love pubs! people fly over to the UK just for pubs and it's beer!
>>60397800
No cockney culture and their dialect was a unqie ting and part of east london for a couple hundred years at least and now it's gone. Replace with bland "multiculturalism"
>>60398392
In the documentary, it looked like its not bland "multiculturalism". It looked like "anything, but british" culture is alive.
>>60398600
That is what multiculturalism is, it's bland because they took something unique and turn it into the same as everywhere else. East London used to unqie with it's own culture no it is generic city #1294, it could be in the US, Canada, France anywhere.
>>60398837
I would say sweden is bland, but ye, I guess thats the same.
>>60396449
Maybe the elderly should just live in multi-generational households. Problem solved.
>>60400264
If you can convince them
