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Hello guys.
What's your opinion on North Iberia?
Since it's the least touristical area of the peninsulae i think that you, pheraps, would like to learn more about this particular region
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pyrenees are bretty good, enjoyed my vacation there. Also close to barcelona
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>>60348849
Pyrenees are nice but in my opinion they are pretty over rated.
I dislike Barcelona. Too much tourists nowdays, it's like visiting a resort and the soul of the city is dying. It's a shame.
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>>60348208
Delet this, we don't need filthy gaijins
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>>60349473
Well, we can make this a /North Iberia/ general
So, where you from?
North Portugal here
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>>60349523
Galicia and we already have to deal with the pilgrims and the italian/dutch caravans. And of course the jodechinchos.
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>>60349607
I've been thinking about doing the pilgrimage this summer.
But yeah, Santiago is a large touristical destination.
I'm no from Porto but i've been there a few days ago and god help me... I could only hear german and french in the streets. High prices, loudness... looked like fuckin disney world.
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>>60350162
Summer is a bad choide, it's better during september, it's not so full and the weather is better.
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>>60348208
we wuz celts n' shit/10
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>>60349139
I've always thought the Pyrenees were underrated tb.h
Most foreigners visit the Alps and forget about the Pyrenees but they're something
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>>60350262
September is summer still.
but yes, i will go in september. I'm used to hiking and walking so i know that doing large trips by foot with heat in your head is a bad choice.
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>>60350388
I mean at the end of september otherwise the camino is really full.
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>>60348208
>Those small storage spaces in the form of houses
I thought they only existed on our side of the border

>>60350363
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>>60350386
Yeah, they are nice. However, Asturias have a different feel.
There is this huge historical simbology atached to them. Pyrenees feel like a border while asturias feels like home
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>>60350485
You were wrong
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>>60350455
Obrigadinho pelo conselho amigo

>>60350485
They are common for north Portugal and Galicia
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>>60350556
>That picture
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>>60350567
Also Asturias and Cantabria
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>>60350262
>>60350162

which pilgrimage are you talking about tho? I'm going to do the Del Norte which is quieter than the Frances (main one)
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>>60350616
Funny, I've been to Asturias but never seen them. Also it was funny drivring through a cloud.

>>60350567
I know that when we go southward we stop seeing eventually, but where do you reckon that point is?

I have a quinta near Romariz and we still have them
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>>60350673
The Do Norte will take you through some of the best natural sights you can see in the peninsula
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>>60350724
They are more common in Gerês and near the border. Mostly in mountainous areas.
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>>60350673
Yeah, that's a wise choice if you do it during summer. I live next to the primitive one and every morning I see at least some pilgrims. It's less busy till you reach Melide.
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>>60350797
I know that but where to they disappear altogether?
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i love it just as i love north spain
might just be the most comfiest climate
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>>60350780
>>60350820
Yes that's what I'm doing. I'm walking from here to get the boat in Portsmouth, which takes me to Santander, then walking the Del Norte and meeting up with the Primitivo.. Not sure on *exact* route yet.

Apparently I miss some nice stuff by starting in Santander, but I wanted to "walk" all the way from here.
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>>60348208
>pyrenees
>asturias
disgusting
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>>60350945
The pyrenees and the asturias are comfy as fuck.
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>>60350907
>Mfw the summer high temperatures in A Corunha

>>60350915
If you want to walk you're better off doing that, it's really hard to appreciate the walk if you're too tired.
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>>60350945
You can't possibly think that
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>>60350841
I think that Romariz, as you stated, might be the limit. I was surprised that there was one so far down south

>>60350907
Yeah, i wouldn't trade it for nothing. Winter is cold but revigorating and the summer is very warm but not suffocating.
Also, culturally it's really great. People are more honest, sincere and they are not as histerical as people in the spanish south (actually southern portuguese people are very, very quiet)
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>>60350907
It is, I find it perfect. Fun fact: in galician we have around 70 words for rain.
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>>60351120
Prove it.
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>>60351013
>>60351098
strictly,north west iberia is the best place in iberia
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>>60350485
Argentina is north Italian thus Apenninic and central European, you iberian piece of shit.
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>>60348208

I'm from Barcelona. It must be included, at least in a historical sense.
It was the main city of the Spanish March (Also called Gothic March. Hence Catalunya - Gothalaunia - "land of goths"). Suffering a similar situation to that of Asturias (Christian territory while the rest of the peninsula was under moor control).

But it's also important to highlight that nowadays you won't get the "experience" in this city, unless you look for it very well: visiting historical places and the main towns of the "Catalunya Vella" (old Catalonia). It's a shame, to see what my land has become. It makes me sad.
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>>60351161
Of course.
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>>60351120
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_LHlz-1W8

http://www.yorokobu.es/los-gallegos-y-sus-70-palabras-para-designar-la-lluvia/
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>>60351103
I'll try to notice it next time I go to Viseu or Coimbra

>>60351161
>Asturias isn't NW Iberia

>>60351120
Not exactly rain but we have a ton of words, one for every type of precipiation
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>>60351120
I can relate.
I live in minho region and it rains ad eternum. Seriously, it's ireland-tier rainy.

Also, speaking of minho:

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rgBswcA4Fc
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>>60351361
no it doesn't fuck off
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>>60351182
Barcelona was literally murdered by tourism.
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>>60351252
It outputs an error when I try to embed, weird

>>60351174
>

>>60351182
We never think of Barcelona as being in this group, I think it's more of an Asturias-only thing
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>>60351058
>>60351103
>>60351120
You have it too good, we demand this and by tengri we shall have it.
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>>60351414
>no it doesn't fuck off

You are not from minho, definitively.
Stop making false acusations
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>>60351424

Well, you can think what you want, but Barcelona was not even "reconquested" by Spaniards at all because when they got close to here we had already been free for a long time. Well, "free". We wuz Franks, to be precise.
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>>60351424
The youtube video is in the link anyway.
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>>60351414
>Minho is not rainny
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>>60351455
Bring it on yellow man.
I swear by Unkulunkulu, the zulu god that we will defend our land till the end
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>>60351422

Yeah :(

And not only Barcelona. What has been done on the Costa Brava (the northern coast) is a fucking crime. It has been literally destroyed with massive buildings.
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>>60351545
>>60351484
dude,it's not a fucking thing that happens everyday...
It's just 1 per week at best or whole weeks on winter
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>>60351252
>The video does not exist

Can't you tell some words?
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>>60351545
>>60351639
rain is comfy
t. want more rain
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>>60351639
During winter it rains for entire weeks non-stop.
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>>60351664
>Rain is comfy
Not when you have to get up at 6 am and get to work all soaked and cold.
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>>60351727
It's not that bad. Our winter is very mild in comparison with other european cunts
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>>60351727
well maybe if its everyday it might get shitty.
here it rains maybe 6 times a year when its 10c+ and i love to be fishing all soaked in that weather!
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I lived in Asturias for almost 5 years, lovely place, great food, great people, I'll be back one day!
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>>60348208
will visit with my family in about 2 months
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>>60351814
Yeah, but our cold is hard to endure since it's wet.
Wet cold sucks.

>>60351664
Took this photo 2 weeks ago.
This is the usual weather around here...
However, we can have absolutely blue sky days. Wich is great too.
As i say, North Iberia has the perfect balanced weather
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>>60351883
It's not that bad and our winter isn't that cold
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>>60351814
I would rather have -10C and snow than 3C and rain.
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>>60351943
C O M F Y
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>>60351651
You have a list here

http://www.yorokobu.es/los-gallegos-y-sus-70-palabras-para-designar-la-lluvia/
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>>60351950
Its not about being cold, its about being wet, that shit gets mud everywhere.
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>>60351943
>Yeah, but our cold is hard to endure since it's wet
Hmmm.. Do you visit other European cunts in the winter time?

Because I can tell you our winter is one of the easiest to endure in Europe
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>>60351955
Me too but we're not talking about that.

>>60351993
It's not pleasant, but that doesn't make our winter harder to endure than the majority of european countries
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>>60352078
Define "harder to endure".
Because cold isnt the problem since a big ass coat can warm you up.
Its about the shitty rain that gets everything wet.
But yes there are worse places.
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>>60351545
>tfw 300-400
JUST
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>>60352008
Yes, i felt northern european winter.
It's very harsh but at least they have pretty good infra-structures against the cold so i didn't felt really bad.
Also, their cold is easier to endure if you have warm clothes.

>>60351975
Have one more
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>>60352276
Im with you being soaked wet in 5c is more shitty and dangerous than walking at -20c
In turn our houses are built to store as much heat as possible which makes heat waves unbearable!
look at this pic that i found of somewhere in north spain/portugal
BEAUTIFUL!
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>>60352456
That's the sierra del aramo near Oviedo, Asturias, I remember passing by it every day when going to work
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>>60352456
Yes.
I think you will also like this one.
It's near where i live
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>>60352772
>Gerês
Fine Tase
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>>60352696
What were you doing in there?
>>60352772
Nice, it looks alot like the norwegian fjords!
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>>60352876
I studied my whole degree at the university there and i did an internsip at a bank in Mieres so i had to take the bus route from Oviedo to Mieres every day and see those mountains all the time, they're spectacular when they're covered in snow
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>>60352808
Não é o gerês.
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>>60352876
I like when foreign people take an interest in northern Portugal\Spain.
Most people only care about the southern regions since it's way more exotic and lively.
The southern regions are nice but personally the north is way better
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>>60353029
How did you like spain compared to mexico?
Does mexico have any really nice places of nature except for the south west with those old pyramids?
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>>60351915
what part of asturias mexibro?
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>>60353254
Yeah i dont get why people like the deserts and scorching beaches that much, then again im a pale finn so i melt by just watching pictures about them.
Forests and rain is the GOAT climate
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>>60352876
Some places are literally just a warmer Ireland
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>>60353263
>How did you like spain compared to mexico?

everything works better and i like the people better tb.h famalam, only issue i have is that the food can sometimes be bland
>Does mexico have any really nice places of nature except for the south west with those old pyramids?

Of courshe, check this pic out from my home state.

>>60353439

Uviéu, fío
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>>60353254
>The southern regions are nice but personally the north is way better
is better because industry and low unemployment -> best quality life
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>>60353477
I mean, I would never be able to tell this wasn't in Ireland at least
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>>60353070
Cerveira é basicamente no Gerês.
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>>60353461
>Forests and rain is the GOAT climate

agreed.
I also love small villages near the sea, surrounded by greenery.
I think that people like the scorching beaches and barren mediterranean lands cause that's what touristic entrepeneurs sell them. Also, it's 100% guaranteed to have good weather.
The thing i like about the southern regions is that it feels very free. You can walk barefoot without a t-shirt and spend the whole day swimming and walking around. It's very freshening.
However, after a month i call it a day and i go back to my cozy valleys
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>>60352226
HAHA OWNED SANDNIGGER
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>>60353477
Ireland is very nice aswell, they just need some more forests in there! They have the climate to grow almost unreal conifer forests like south west norway!
>>60353516
I have to say that does not look too good to my eye
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>>60353682
Fica perto mas não pertence ao Gerês
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Northern Iberia seems god tier for anyone who likes nature and outdoors activities. It's about the only place in Europe where you can be close to the mountains for skiing and also close to the ocean forr surfing. Beautiful scenery for hiking and looks a lot greener than I originally thought.

Is there anything in the southern part worthwhile apart from pretty historical cities and comfy Mediterranean beaches (slowly being destroyed by tourism)? The environment seems really barren and I don't understand how people can do anything outside during the daytime in near 40 degree heat.
>tfw anything above 22 or so makes me feel like I'm dying.

And on a final note, is there any cool historical architecture/cities/ruins/castles etc in the north? I see pictures of small very comfy rural towns but no more than that.
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>>60353781
each to his own i guess, i like mediterranean weather, we do have some temperate forests but nothing like europe
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>>60353736
I will never undestand this tanning trend where northern people go to they very south of europe for 2 weeks and they do nothing but drink and lay on the beach
>>60353958
well those are some damn nice looking mountains my man
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>>60353948
>Is there anything in the southern part worthwhile apart from pretty historical cities and comfy Mediterranean beaches (slowly being destroyed by tourism)?
Southern Iberia's nature is great in the winter

>The environment seems really barren
It really is

>I don't understand how people can do anything outside during the daytime in near 40 degree heat.
They don't, they just stay inside
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>>60354004
those are the Iztaccihuatl and Popocatepetl volcanoes right outside of Mexico city
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>>60353776
Owned by who?
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>>60353948
>And on a final note, is there any cool historical architecture/cities/ruins/castles etc in the north? I see pictures of small very comfy rural towns but no more than that.

Yes, In North Portugal, i advise you to visit Braga, Guimarães (the city were the first king was born), Viana do Castelo, Barcelos and Porto.
In Galiza i advise you to visit Santiago, Coruña but i think galician bros can help you better in that part
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>>60353948
There's probably nothing as big as in the South, since we didn't see war that often but there's some nice things around here, here's my favourite
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Excellent thread guys
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>>60353948
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>>60354138
We dont have the cool mountains of norway but our country is still 75% of this!
Do you think your volcanos will blow if yellowstone blows?
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>>60354229
>>60354329
>Mfw this was the style of architecture our monarchy used to build in while they were in the north
>Mfw we could have had a country like this had they stayed
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>>60353948
Cangas de Onís has a roman bridge
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>>60354438
Popocatepetl is an active volcano so it's actually pretty damn likely
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>>60354519
rip la raza cosmica
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>>60353948
>The environment seems really barren
yes it's fucking hot....literally i live in a desert ( all is yellow)

half part of spain is barren

pic related -> my house
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>>60354223
Damn, google pics of these look amazing. Why don't tourists flock to this? It looks as beautiful as those popular Italian cities and is probably a ton cheaper.

>>60354229
This looks straight out of a fairy tale or fantasy adventure. This is definitely going on my list when I get the chance to take a road trip through the region.
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>>60354223
>Barcelos
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O meu trabalho aqui está feito. O dos outros, está prestes a começar.
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>>60354672
Ihighly recommend visiting northern spain, it's gorgeous and with few tourists
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>>60354570
I would simply buy a large McMansion, cheaply built but well insulated, and live inside for 5 months of the year.

I'm worried because I might end up having to go to Lisbon for my Master's and there's no way I'm staying in a house without AC
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>>60354672
Because tourists want "le party" and "le mediterranean experience" meme.
Porto has hordes of tourists tough... But as i stated, they go there because it's hype. Great city tough, however the tourism is killing it.

the other towns are quiet and very comunitary.
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>>60354672
>Why don't tourists flock to this?
Beach and sunshine are more popular and Italy is a cultural superpower

You're right though it is a lot cheaper
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>tfw live in a literal desert
Pic I took some months ago.
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>tfw asturias heritage fag
>tfw visiting my ancestral homeland for the first time
>tfw visiting my grandfather's village and seeing the house where he used to live
God, I love Asturias, I wish I could live there
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>>60355016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKmkOIlHbok
well atleast there is a nice song made about the south of spain!
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>>60354451
Very original, I like it
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>>60355016
These climates are generally very clean and clear despite being hot; a cold desert like Patagonia is up there in my list of favourites.

>>60355170
I like it too, I wish they built more like this
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>>60355016
también tiene su encanto
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>>60355055
you could, if your grandfather kepts his nationality when your father/mother was born you could get spanish nationality. My mom has asturian/Leonese grandparents and that's how she ahs spanish citizenship
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>>60355016
Honestly I like this kind of place, a 100 years ago where I live was as desertic, it's greener nowadays than your pic but it's still one of the dryest area of France and it's pleasant
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>>60355055
You can probably get citizenship if you can prove that to the Spanish government

Also get ready to start drinking cider
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i go to santander practically every summer
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>>60355348
La verdad es que sí, por ahí pasa un camino muy bueno para ir en bici y es una maravilla.
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How do modern-day Spaniards and Portuguese see Visigothic Hispania? Are there still families that boast about their Visigothic or Suebian ancestry?

Spics from Latin America not allowed.
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>>60355485
FOUND THE ALGERIAN
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>>60355706
we're more Spanish than you'll ever be fagit
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>>60355706
It was too long ago, most people don't know if they have visigothic ancestry. We don't even learn too much about it in school.
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>>60355710
Takbir brother
But I live here tb.h even from the map you can see it's not as green as the rest
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>>60355642
the beaches and nature are gorgeous but the city itself is kind of meh tb.h
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>>60355784
Shut up and build the wall, Paco.

>>60355819
That sucks.
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>>60355431
I don't think I I could. My grandfather was a refugee from the civil war. I have his original document showing that he gave up his Spanish citizenship to be naturalized as a Mexican

>>60355553
I know portubro, I drank so much cider while I was there
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>>60355885
>Shut up and build the wall, Paco.

but Paco YOU are the Paco

>>60355891

did he naturalize as mexican before your father/mother was born?
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>>60355706
At least for our part our government does everything it can to not refer to that part of our heritage and paint it in a horrible light.

That despite the fact that our country has more germanic than celtic cultural remnants.

Our patronymics are germanic in origin for example: itz -> itç -> iç -> is -> es

The birthplace of the nation is named after a German

Weimar -> Weimaritz -> Guimaraitz -> ... -> Guimarães
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>>60348208

>Nobody cares about Catalonia because we are now seen as "beaches and fiesta". We've become a product and everything good about us is unknown.
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>>60356092
I think it's because you're too cosmopolitan
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>>60355974
Yeah, he did unfortunately.
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>>60356006
Now that I think about it, the Spanish patronymic is Germanic as well, only instead it kept the z
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>>60355706

A lot of the names of Catalonia's locations and people come, not from Visigothic Hispania, but from the territories retaken and populated by goths under the Franks.
In fact, our name itself. Catalunya means "Land of Goths".
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>>60349607
Pilgrims? To where? That sort of thing is neat
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>>60356140
then you're shit out of luck unfortunately, a couple of years ago there was a law in spain that granted nationality to the grandchildren of spanish refugees from the civil war "ley de la memoria historica", i think it was only temporary but you could research into it
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>>60348208
only white people from spain i have seen in person have been from asturias and cantabria
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Asturias is probably my favourite place on the planet. I literally want to just fuck off uni, buy a bit of land there, grow an orchard on it and make cider in the sun for the rest of my days.

The north of Portugal is also very nice but the dialect is incomprehensible.
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>>60356258
Santiago de Compostela, el camino de Santiago is probably the most famous pilgrimage route
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>>60356259
Thanks for all the help Mexibro, I'll look into it
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>>60348208
I'd like to go to Galicia.

Is Porto part of that? Porto looks nice.
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I usually forget that Cantabria exists for some reason.
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>>60356334
>Asturias is probably my favourite place on the planet. I literally want to just fuck off uni, buy a bit of land there, grow an orchard on it and make cider in the sun for the rest of my days.


i want to buy a house in my great garndma's seaside village and just sail around all day and come back home to a hot pot of fabada
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>>60356258
Santiago de Compostela, its a gorgeous town in Galicia, folks walk there traditionally from Lourdes but some go further. I'm trying to cycle there from Land's End this summer :)
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>>60356393
Portuense here.

No it isn't part of Galicia. It's nice though. Visit both if you have the time
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>>60356430
So much. I learned to cook fabada here but I developed a weird short term allergy thing where that, cider or sausages made me incredibly ill. Was barely worth living +bh
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>>60356513
I know it isn't obv sorry I meant is it part of the red bit on the OP pic.
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>>60356619
It's just south of the last bit of red on the portuguese coast.

Honestly I don't agree with that pic, places like Leon and Burgos are still very much Northern Iberia
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>>60356393
Galicia has some lovely towns, Santiago, Vigo and a couple of other places are worth visiting but the best thing about it is the countryside and small villages. Also they have their own fun little celtic revival so if you're from the fringe you'll love it. Porto is just gorgeous, I took a long time to fall in love with Portugal as where I stayed in the countryside it was kind of boring and too close to Porto, so just filled with tourists. When I actually went to Porto and the sun came out it was just stunning. I can't find any of my photos from there on my phone but there's a load on my Instagram (also of Northern Spain) if you want to take a look! @tnorthiscold
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>>60356619
the map is wrong,the north has to include every region north of coimbra
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>>60356773
I'll have a look m8 cheers. Where did you fly to btw? Santiago?
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>>60356799
I would actually agree with this.

>>60356773
Well Porto metro area is deceivingly big; despite Porto itself being a small city the metro area just keeps on going for kilometres.
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>>60356881
Got the ferry to Santander and drove westward. Stayed in a little village called Anayo in Asturias, and I can't remember where we stayed in Portugal but it was so close to the Galician border that sometimes we'd get lost and accidentally end up in Spain on the way home. I flew back from Porto because uni while everyone else got the ferry a few days later. 10/10 holiday. Seriously man Asturias is something else, Oviedo is gorgeous and I've never had as good seafood as in Gijón. The countryside is phenomenal as well, just beautiful wherever you go - most days we didn't even set off with a plan and just drove out to whenever. Bizarrely ended up crashing a wedding in Covadonga, that was fun
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>>60348208
Don't promote it too much or they'll mess it all up like they did with the south. Torrevieja used to be a beautiful seaside town and now it's a shithole full of plebs.
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>>60356773
Also there's some nice pictures there, I hope you got to see this which is a locally known secret, in that it has imo the best urban sight in the whole country.
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>>60357100
It's being promoted to people on /int/ - generally the sort of person on 4chan interested in culture is not the same as the geriatric in Torrevieja or the pisshead in Ibiza
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>>60355974
No, Americans are going to make America great again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4FgT4VeEIU
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>>60357173
Beautiful man. Where's that to? I didn't see it.
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>>60356717
León looks more like the rest of Spain than Asturias

>>60357091
>Oviedo is gorgeous

The thing i like the most about Oviedo is just how clean and organised the whole city is. I've been to places that on paper are wealthier, but Oviedo really is what every city should aspire to be.
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>>60356006
>At least for our part our government does everything it can to not refer to that part of our heritage and paint it in a horrible light.
Why would they do that? Do they falsely portray the Moorish occupation as an era of peace, prosperity, and enlightenment?
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>>60355864
well, for that reason i take the car to visit villages as Santillana del Mar or Comillas
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>>60357355
Especially enlightenment, our school books are made with special care for that purpose, they portray the South as rich as prosper and the North as barbarians.

Heck the Goths even managed to leave the land organization system that the North of the peninsula uses, Kleinbauer, unlike the rest of the Romance countries apart from maybe some parts of France.
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>>60353516
>Uviéu
Ah! Mexi-carbayón.
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>>60357247
It's in the Baixa near the Courthouse.

If you're ever here again be sure to ask where the virtudes are.
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>>60353948
Only the eastern part of the south is arid and barren, the western part is pretty nice, there is a mountain system in every province btw
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>>60357199
i try really hard to have a positive image of americans given that my irl interactions with your countrymen have been good, but it's retards like you that make me want to stop being friendly to your ilk

>>60357663

bueno tengo aunque sea 1/8 de sangre asturiana!
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>>60356462
I'm waiting for you at Santiago y Fisterra.
:3
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>>60357752
>tfw no mountains
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>>60357580
Oh yeah, those glorious Moors came to Hispania to impose the Jizya and murder everybody who didn't comply with that. No mentioning of the Almohads?
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>>60357758
Don't care and don't come to our country, filthy Spic.
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>>60357903
I had never even heard about them until now.

I mean, I know that South Iberia was a cultural power, but what I don't like is the complete erasing of the Goth history which actually lasted for almost 300 years here and portraying them as barbarians when the muslims were horrible to us.
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>>60358025
Christ. I wonder why history textbook writers would do such a thing.
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>>60357990
If you hate spics, why be hostile to a Mexican that is actually in Mexico? You should want all Mexicans to aspire to be like that.
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>>60357990
so edgy >>/pol/

>>60358212

and i have zero interest in going to his country either, if i were to migrate somewhere it would be to Spain
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>>60358212
becaus usa bro, memes! U S A U S A
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Americans are the worst people, surely the more you dilute them with Mexican the better they get?
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>>60358212
So he stays there.
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>>60358025

The Anglos, and more recently spanish-portuguese liberals prefer to choke on the (ex)caliphate's cock rather than say anything about the goths.

It has happened the same in Catalonia, for our particular case. Most "academics" here present the Catalan people as Roman people or even Laietanis. Ignoring the fact that the modern "catalan nation" developed from the Gothic settlement that retook and repopulated the territory after a few years of muslim control.
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>>60358317
their food would certainly improve!
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>>60357758
Relax mexibro es porque tus paisanos are fucking up your reputation by going to el norte and ... well ... being too Mexican.
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>>60358278
>edgy
You do realize that we have a presidential candidate whose platform consists of deporting illegals and building a wall. That should let you know how we feel about you people.
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this country is a fucking shit....with shit jobs dude. a fucking hell
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>>60358317
Adab Muhammad.
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>>60358557
Wanting to preserve your people or nation =/= hating other peoples or nations. I want the Morrocans to gtfo my country but that doesn't mean I hate Morroco, the country/nation.
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>>60358557
>That should let you know how we feel about you people.


B-but Trump and his supporters said that they love Mexico and Mexicans, they just dislike illegal immigration, are you telling me that they're hypocritcal liars? Was Trump eating a taco bowl a lie?!
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>>60358605
Just get a job serving all the Anglos moving in for cheap real estate.
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>>60358557
Yeah it let's us know that Americans are inherently edgy
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>>60358787
>B-but Trump and his supporters said that they love Mexico and Mexicans
Said no one ever.

>>60358728
Fight fire with fire.
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Centro> norte> sul para ser honesto
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>>60358635
Inshallah brother death to the west
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>tfw not living in Asturias
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>>60348208

I once walked the way of St. James.

fucking beautiful area
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>>60360823
I assume you passed trough Moledo and Caminha?
I'm going to do that pilgrimage too. However, i'm gonna start in my hometown
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Aveiro is white Gallaecian homeland and its inhabitants are proud Celtic aryans without any drop of moor blood
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>>60360985
>Aveiro
>Gallecian

Ahah. Good joke, Aveiro is central Portugal.
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>>60361131
b-but I'm blue-eyed and ginger-bearded
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>>60355016
Looks like the california desert.
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>>60348208
>norte part of northern "Iberia"

You belong with Algarve
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Anyone here who likes Oviedo. Why? I live near but i do not see its thingy, justo bad things.
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>>60357798
Cool man sounds a plan! I do love the whole celt thing though yous need to try harder, they're bloody obsessed with it my way
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>>60349473

This. It's already quite saturated and pricey and in many places you won't get a reservation unless you do do it with 2 months ahead.

So shut it down before the guiris know.
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>>60363202
Celt? Not so much?
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>>60361258
Don't mind him, no one thinks about racial differences when we talk about the North (of which Aveiro and Viseu are also part of) in real life.

>>60362452
t. Ahmedo Gitano

>>60359192
t. Habitante de Mondego-para-Baixo
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>>60364011
I'm just memeing, although my parents often refer to the south as the Moors, especially my mother since she's from some inbred village somewhere around Gondomar.
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>>60364139
We do colloquially refer to them as the Moors but no one actually thinks about racial differences when doing that, it's mostly just banter.

Also that's quite nice, but I don't think there are inbred villages in Gondomar anymore since it's now part of the Porto metro area. And Gondomar is a nice city.
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>>60364345
I've never been to Gondomar actually, I don't even know why. But the whole region is pretty nice, I should really visit it soon again. I love the small villages there too.
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>>60364486
It's nice, but there isn't really anything remarkable there, just really good if you have a decent paying job and want a great quality of life but cheap place to live.

Aveio though is a great city, and though legally considered another region, personally being from Porto, I don't consider it like that, in fact I think we have more in common with them than with Braga or the High-Minho.
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>>60364610
*Aveiro, damn it I'm on my phone
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>>60348208
Spanish marque
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>>60364610
At least from what I can see on pictures Gondomar indeed looks like the suburb city where wealthy people spend their private time

I can't tell if there are many differences between Aveiro and Porto, my retarded father always shittalks Porto whenever he has the chance to so I rarely get to talk about this with my family. But yeah, it definitely is different from some cities up in the north like Barcelos or Póvoa do Varzim. Hell, the latter one is full of muh heritage faggots telling how much Norse blood they have and thus how different they are because they happen to a literally inbred Norse population that settled down like a thousand years ago, holy shit.
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>>60364866
>I can't tell if there are many differences between Aveiro and Porto, my retarded father always shittalks Porto whenever he has the chance to so I rarely get to talk about this with my family.
They're both port cities that were built on trade, industry, and good work ethics, both were built upon and still rely on their rivers and exports, the mentality is quite urban for the most part and today they colaborate a lot on the academic level.

I don't know why your father does that.

>Hell, the latter one is full of muh heritage faggots telling how much Norse blood they have and thus how different they are because they happen to a literally inbred Norse population that settled down like a thousand years ago
Kek, I've never heard anyone say that irl, but it's true that they're the blondest city in the country and the difference between them and, say, Lisbon, is almost unbelievable for such a small country
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>>60364760

Thanks, greatest ally <3

t. Catalan.
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>>60364866
>>60365211
To add to the Povoa thing they're the one city in the country that I would say people look like southern French in terms of >whiteness, although there are much blonder small inbred villages

But the thing is, again, I have NEVER heard anyone talk about this irl, who told you that?
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>>60365211
>I don't know why your father does that.
Probably because he's some old guy slowly developping redneck mentality while shittalking constantly about FC Porto and everything related to it. He isn't from Aveiro itself but from a village by Águeda, he just boasts about Aveiro all the time because he went to the military there

>Kek, I've never heard anyone say that irl, but it's true that they're the blondest city in the country and the difference between them and, say, Lisbon, is almost unbelievable for such a small country
I'm perhaps exaggerating a bit, but especially some younger people I met there boasted about their perceived difference, even trying to explain the Nordic origins of the siglas poveiras or however that shit's called. ffs half my family is blond and blue-eyed and I never had the urge to differentiate myself from other Portuguese people
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>>60365534
kek yes indeed, but so does almost my whole extended family and his the only one who acts like this, except my godfather who's his cousin and who supports Sporting.
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>>60365592
>>60365419
Crap, I meant to delete and add something before you posted but there's that.

He doesn't hate Porto but he hates FCPorto, problem is when people conflate those. There is genuinely nothing that gets my blood boiling more than when a southerner says people from Porto are Portistas (we're Portuenses).

Anyway, Porto has quite a lot more in common with Aveiro than Braga imo, in fact the separation is also somewhat geographical between Porto and the Minho as well.

But you just met some weird people from Varzim it seems
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>>60365783
>There is genuinely nothing that gets my blood boiling more than when a southerner says people from Porto are Portistas (we're Portuenses).
You're literally saying the same thing as my mother, holy fuck
I'm pretty confident he at least strongly dislikes Portuenses though. There's a Portuguese renting our appartment and my father shittalks him whenever he gets the chance, even before he knew that the guy's also a supporter of the Dragoes. It's probably like some people here who take the differences between Flemish and Walloon people too seriously, the whole non-country meme is pretty much non-existent outside /int/ nowadays except for some retards.


>Anyway, Porto has quite a lot more in common with Aveiro than Braga imo, in fact the separation is also somewhat geographical between Porto and the Minho as well.
Probably true, I also felt like Braga's somewhat different compared to both cities.

>But you just met some weird people from Varzim it seems
I hope so, I don't want to start generalizing whole cities like my father does.
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they BTFO'd Islamic niggers
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>>60365998
Ask him to tell you honestly and rationally that is.

I'm finally going out now but the next time we meet here you can tell me, now you got me curious
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>>60366594
I'll do it m8, have a nice evening
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