When Russia finally decides to attack Finland again, should we just let them have it?
I do not see how protecting the Socialist Finns is worth one drop of American blood.
SPURDO SHALL NEVER DIE
>>60120665
We are strong everywhere and will start guerilla warfare against you. Yes (You).
t.Finlan
Whatever. It would all boil down to gorilla warfare untill Russia gets bored anyway.
Finlands sak är vår
>>60120795
>gorilla warfare
>>60120665
>I do not see how protecting the Socialist Finns is worth one drop of American blood.
THINK OF DA MENES
>>60120833
(You) don't want to see it happen.
>tfw you will never study in the viipuri university while banging 5/5 karelian grills
why even live
>>60120833
meme warfare
>>60120795
>gorilla
>>60120665
>mfw this would be the American response even if we'd join NATO
>>60120880
those eyes
>>60120833
>>60120895
It's like you guys don't even meme. What the fuck are you here for?
Russia has gotten none chances against us. Our fucking war time units have the most firepower in all of Europe (except for Russia) and by a huge margin. Russia will surrender after we threaten to attack StPetersburg.
>>60121103
This tbqh.
The mighty Finnish empire will rise again.
>>60120665
>Amerifat
>helping Finland in WW2
Americans produced some dumb propaganda film about a few >muh heritage Murrifags who came here to help, they weren't let in any actual combat role.
Then later on in '41 we were enemies.
>>60120665
To be honest I've never expected murican help in the first place.
>>60120996
I am here for serious discussions on international relations, is this the wrong place?
>>60120665
>Implying Finland would ever be a target anyway
>>60121215
Don't forget that no one stands a chance of winning a war without the ameicans help m8
>>60120665
americans have such a childlike understanding of our political position it's incredible
>>60121249
Yes
>>60121249
We just deal in memes here.
You should know that Finns are generally very well trained in gorilla warfare though, and Finnish soldiers have over 300 confirmed kills on average.
>>60120665
>American and European reaction to Russian attack against Finland
pic related
in alternate universe where Finland joined NATO:
>American and European reaction to Russian attack against Finland
pic related
>>60121315
Things are changing too often in your führer's mind.
>>60121355
Smoke more weed, Hans.
>>60120665
Why does Russia finally decides to attack Finland """""again"""""?
I do not see how attacking and conquering Finland is worth a single drop of Russian blood.
>>60120665
>American
>Blood
>worth
>>60121534
Russian blood isn't worth much though
>>60120665
Why would they even attack us? It's not even worth it.
>>60121315
It's always been a war goal though. Good access to Baltic Sea, nice ports, nice and ebin island systems for ship cover and infra in place for moving things to Scandinavian front.
>>60121601
Not really, otherwise the Soviet Union would have just taken you over in 1945 when there was the opportunity.
>>60121534
Total domination of baltic sea
>>60121429
more like this tbqh
>>60121595
To gain control of the mämmi mines you retard
>>60120869
This respected sir is always welcomed for students visa.
>>60121103
This mongol in snow never tasted nukes.
>>60121644
i seem to recall an incident in world war 2 that was somewhat... embarrassing for russia
>>60121765
>hey igor blyad cyka let's conquer this nation because it has good access to baltic sea and good infrastructure
>>okay blyad pidor vladimir, let's nuke the shit out of it so we can't use the land we just conquered
ebin ruskie
>tfw I would have to go to war if Putin decides to attack
Please don't.
>>60121786
Winter war was a separate war to WW2. By the 1944 Finland was on the retreat against the Soviets in their alliance with the Nazis.
>>60121841
it was not an alliance :D it only happened to be that we were fighting the same enemy :D
also in 1944 soviets got their shit slapped on isthmus which is why finland managed to score peace treaty
>>60121841
>Winter war was a separate war to WW2
riiight
>>60121786
>Finland ceded a portion of Karelia—the entire Karelian Isthmus as well as a large swath of land north of Lake Ladoga. The area included Finland's second largest city of Viipuri
>Finland also had to cede a part of the region of Salla, the Kalastajansaarento peninsula in the Barents Sea, and four islands in the Gulf of Finland. The Hanko Peninsula was leased to the Soviet Union as a military base for 30 years
>The Soviets also obtained part of the Salla region, while retaining possession of Repola and Porajärvi
Finmark stronk.
Tbh I think Russia could, in theory, roll over Finland like they did to Ukraine. They asked for help but nobody gave a flying fuck.
I'm abandoning the ship and actually leaving this country this week
>>60122055
Typical russian criminals robbing private property. Every time.
>>60121315
Could you then call back your spies and special forces? For some reason you have sent a few hundred of them here to prepare an invasion. And maybe even pull back those military units right beside our border and give us back the occupied areas?
>>60121534
>>60121595
To secure St. Petersburg, the route to Königsberg and access to the Atlantic Ocean. It would also prevent NATO from gaining ground here and make the defense of the Baltic countries practically impossible. Finland is also between Russia and the United States, so in a bigger war lots of missiles and aircrafts would fly both ways over Finland, so holding the area gives either a great advantage. During the Cold War both Soviet Union and the US actully targeted Finland with nukes, because neither wanted that the other to use our area as a way to attack. This may still be the case.
So there's a few reasons. There are more of course.
>>60122108
Stop being butthurt, Hans.
You may also be one of us - ask your grandma.
>>60120665
We won't attack Finland. Why would we?
>>60122137
>and give us back the occupied areas?
There are no occupied areas.
>>60121765
i meant as in viipuri had stayed with finland instead of you subhumans looting it
>>60122055
and like 20,000 russians got frost bite lol
>>60122149
>ask your grandma.
slavs are literally white niggers
>>60122168
I think you're correct for once. They WERE occupied areas until fucking Ruskies shipped the population to some hellhole death camp in Siberia and replaced them with more of fucking Ruskies.
>>60122265
Are you implying the Germans never raped anyone in the USSR? You realise there were over 1 million children born from German rapes of Soviet women, right?
>>60122161
Sure you won't.
>>60122168
You need to improve your propaganda skills.
>>60122055
>Country with superior firepower, manpower, supplies, resources
>Can't even completely annex a tiny chickenshit country in comparison
70 years later u still mad :--DDD
>>60122149
That would imply you took East Germany yourselves, when we all know you were too terrified of Hitler's boys, so you shooed your hohol serfs westwards instead of invading.
>>60122149
How are you doing today? Compared to your enemies?
If Hitler had won ww2 you could be a civilized state, but instead you are doomed forever to be laughing stock for rest of the world.
Lol.
>>60122244
You are too irrelevant to post in this thread.
>>60122265
Look, mom, i called him a nigger, mom, am i cool now?
>>60122331
Winter war is actually not talked about at all. WW2 overshadows it enormously. Only time this war is talked about is by Finns online.
>>60122324
Yes, we won't, no doubt here. Our modern government is not some Stalin tier dictatorship that throws regular people in offensive operations like it was in 90's and early 00's.
>>60122358
>Winter war is actually not talked about at all. WW2 overshadows it enormously.
Well I'd imagine it's kind of embarrassing to talk about the war that you a) lost and b) was an enormour catalyst for operation Barbarossa.
>>60122345
>If Hitler had won ww2
There would be no Russia or Russians.
>>60122355
>proud of rapes committed by kinsmen
>not a nigger
Pick your bantz better if yo don't want to get rekt so easily, Yevgeny.
>>60122370
Then I repeat myself:
>Could you then call back your spies and special forces? For some reason you have sent a few hundred of them here to prepare an invasion. And maybe even pull back those military units right beside our border and give us back the occupied areas?
>>60122370
Right :DDDD
>>60122407
Operation unthinkable should have been completed.
>>60122406
It is less that and more about importance. Winter War is just not as remembered compared to the Great Patriotic War.
>>60122295
>over 1 million
wat
>>60122370
>Our modern government is not some Stalin tier dictatorship that throws regular people in offensive operations like it was in 90's and early 00's.
Ok.
Then what were those green little men in Ukraine?
>>60122332
So terrified that we actually hanged them and raped their aryan women while shaking in fear.
>>60122331
>tiny chickenshit country
Im okay with that.
>>60122476
1 million children were born from German rape in the Soviet Union.
>>60122449
Which would have just handed West Germany, the Benelux, Italy and France to Stalin.
>>60122492
>ooga booga we rape blyat
Frostniggers confirmed. No wonder your country is on its last legs.
>>60122508
It's wasn't Russia. Nazis barely came over through nowadays Russia's border and all they had are abandoned villiages. They only raped Belarus and Ukraine etc.
>russian history is evolving again
>praise stalin
>love beria
I wonder if rewriting history books is now the major part of the gdp of russia after oil collapsed and sanctions began.
>>60122636
That is why I said the Soviet Union.
>>60122355
>You are too irrelevant to post in this thread.
do you have to bribe an official so that your posts get sent to the 4chan server?
>>60121765
Those nukes are all the defense you have and they are rusty and out of use. How about we put a nuclear war head on a JASSM and target St Petersburg? You lose to fucking Finland even in nuclear warfare.
>>60122646
>love beria
Nah, mostly Stalin
>>60122693
No, most vatniks here get paid something like a ruble per post, their job is to post putinbot stuff
>>60122706
Then why no-one still haven't attacked Russia?
>>60122773
Mostly because nobody gives a shit about russia. They do give a shit to keep russians out of civilized countries.
>>60122750
Fuck Putin
Feel better now paranoid Finn?
>>60122358
>>60122406
Not to mention that Russians were allied with the Nazis back then. And invading other countries doesn't really look good in publics eyes. And they blamed us for the war (Mainilan laukaukset). And that's not all but because this isn't a shopping channel, I'll refrain for now.
I don't think they even teach history in Russian schools. Only historical revisionism.
>>60122848
Yeah continue talking. We're smarter than you and we're stronger than you cuck.
>>60122876
took you about 3 minutes to discuss this post's content with your supervisor?
>>60122925
If you are smart and strong, why your country is a shit?
>>60122508
>all slavskyboys get thrown into the camp for collaborating with Bolshevik thieves
>their sisters and daughters are sick of uncivilized peasant existence so they espouse with some of those qt German soldiers who saved them from the bad guys
>a few years later
>Russkies return with new arms, courtesy of FDR, and push back the beloved German heroes
>find and register all Slavic women who did the sensible thing and gave birth to a German child, one million in total
>"say he raped you or you go to gulag with your child, suka!"
>implying rape
>>60122355
>two irrelevant to post in a thread about Finland
>Norway is literally more relevant than Finland (meme status aside)
Uwotm8
>>60122923
>Finns complaining about making deals with Nazis
>>60122992
>whataboutism
Sweden is going to be under ISIS control before Russia is finally done in Ukraine, and can send troops to the Finnish border.
I'm not worried about the ruskies.
>>60122925
>>60122975
Because our government is shit and only thinks about war budget. I'm talking about average white Russian, not a meme Russians which are used to force here. We have the best literature we're great in math and physics and we're manly ask any of your women they'd secretly choose non-polite manly Ivan than you.
>>60122979
>all Germans get thrown into the camp for collaborating with Versailles thieves
>their sisters and daughters are sick of uncivilized Nazi existence so they espouse with some of those qt Soviet soldiers who saved them from the bad Nazis
>many decades later
>Soviets withdraw and Germany reunites
>find and register all German women who did the sensible thing and gave birth to a Soviet child, one million in total
>"say he raped you or you will be sacked and barred from work for working with the Stasi!"
>implying rape
>>60122992
Unlike the Soviet Union, Finland never made a deal with nazis.
>>60123117
That would make sense if both our people were comprised of unethical liars, but unfortunately for you, only yours is.
i'm looking for a new addidas suit, can any russians please give me any pointers as to what to get?
>>60123143
>German troops literally fought for Finland
>Finnish leaders met with Hitler multiple times
>Finnish troops took orders from the German High Command
>>60122923
A. You made deals with the Nazis too
B. Russians don't understand how borders work, this is an established fact.
>>60123161
Ask Polaks.
>>60122446
Every country has spies in any bordering country and every country has military units just right any border it has especially so heavily militarized ones like Russia, you shouldn't really think it is anyhow related to possible war. It is just logical position for military-close to NATO ally.
>>60122489
First they weren't conscripts.
Second Finland is not Crimea or Ukraine where Russia has huge amount of supporters and these lands were always disputed since they had not much in common with Ukraine.
>>60123168
>things that actually, literally didn't happen
And none of them constitute making a deal.
>>60123103
>We have the best literature we're great in math and physics and we're manly ask any of your women they'd secretly choose non-polite manly Ivan than you.
And you have kept all that exceptional material as a state secret until now you finally mention them in 4chan.
>>60122992
It's embarrassing for you. All this time you have pounded your chest and cried "Death to Nazis!" but you were their allies.
Regarding co-operation we had with them "My enemy's enemy is my friend." Besides, Operation Barbarossa was going to happen with or without us, so the choice to fight alongside them was a no-brainer.
>>60123156
>That would make sense if both our people were comprised of unethical liars
Germans have always been unethical liars. Germans are not a trustworthy people, they break deals all the time.
>>60123168
>German troops literally fought for Finland
No, they fought for Germany
>Finnish leaders met with Hitler multiple times
Hitler met up with them, to the disgust of Mannerheim for example
>Finnish troops took orders from the German High Command
Factually false.
>>60123143
You made plenty of deals, you got anti tank stuff from germans, planned barbarossa together etc.
>>60122773
Nobody wants your frozen favelas.
>>60123143
You literally took part on blockade of Leningrad therefore commited terrible war crime that lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths.
>>60123178
We respect modern boder with Finland and have no argue with them. And if you were involved at least somehow with local politics you would know that russians were hardly scammed by commies and moany borders that they left were critically retarded and unfair i.e. Crimea.
>>60123253
>russia is a trusted partner
Ask all your neighbors running into NATO
>>60123198
>Second Finland is not Crimea or Ukraine where Russia has huge amount of supporters and these lands were always disputed since they had not much in common with Ukraine.
Can we talk about Karelia?
>>60123308
That has nothing to do with being unethical, they are just scared of an actual power which will defend its interests. Germans on the other hand are a weak nation who cannot do anything other than stab in the back.
>>60123224
Not really. Not brainwashed people clearly see positives and negatives of any country. I treat Germans as good and friendly even when i'm talking with someone like you.
>>60123281
>you got anti tank stuff from germans
yeah and you got shit from USA, what's the point?
>planned barbarossa together
nope
>>60123294
>You literally took part on blockade of Leningrad
Finnish troops stopped well before Leningrad and allowed Soviets to use the empty no-mans-land as staging area. Leningrad was only Germans vs Soviets.
>>60123231
Non aggression pact is not alliance fyi. Axis pact is alliance.
>>60123318
Karelia is Russia. What about it?
>>60123318
We both know you won't take it now even if we purpose it.
>>60123294
>You literally took part on blockade of Leningrad therefore commited terrible war crime that lead to hundreds of thousands of deaths.
This is where I go >russian "education"
>>60123253
Russia is extremely corrupt, Germany is not.
That's a fact.
You are plagued with self-deceit. How many bottles of Vodka does one Russkie have to gulp down to believe his people are chivalrous and esteemed?
>>60123291
"nobody wants one of the biggests amount of forests metal oil and other resources and we'd better endure Putin spitting in our face"
Ameritard
>>60123382
Finland was at war with USSR and despite you didn't siege Leningrad you still were taking part in blockading it and starving millions of people.
>>60123347
>scared of an actual power
When has the shit become an actual power?
I'd see russia as a mold which expands and destroys everything it touches.
>>60123382
The point is that you did indeed made "deals" with nazi germany, which you said finland did not do.
>>60123422
>Russia is extremely corrupt, Germany is not.
Germany is corrupt to the core. How can you say you are not corrupt when your leaders sell your country to other countries in a literal sense?
>>60120665
We shall answer!
I am suprized at the amount of animosity in this thread
We are all Europeans, whe shouldn't hate each other.
And you guys dont really believe Russia would attack Finland, right?
ITT: One pathetic Kremlinbot samefags for hours
>>60123524
Obviously not. I just like to talk to Russian haters. Peace.
>>60123501
>russian "education"
Again, Finland did not take part in Leningrad. It is one of the primary causes of the detorioration of relations between Finland and Germany at the time.
>>60123540
There are more than one Russian in this thread.
>>60123457
>however Finnish troops had already earlier in August 1941 received orders to halt the advance after reaching their goals, some of which lay beyond the pre-Winter War border. After reaching their respective goals, the Finns halted their advance and started moving troops to East Karelia.[40][41] For the next three years, the Finns did little to contribute to the battle for Leningrad, maintaining their lines.[42]
LEL
>>60123468
If we're being factual, it was actually Risto Ryti, who swore to Hitler that so long as he is president, Finland will fight if Finland gets weapons.
Sure enough, Hitler swallowed the bait, delivered some shit and Ryti then goes "well that's it, Ruskies were stopped, I can now step down" which allowed for peace negotiations. It was not a national treaty but a perfidious plan by Ryti.
>>60123347
>an actual power which will defend its interests
Russia interests
>alcoholism
>heroin
>anarchy
>sell fossil fuels
>coerce weaker countries into economic coordination via threatening gestures and production of nukes
Russia outcomes
>povery and butthurt
Maybe you should reconsider your interests
>>60123494
>Teleports behind you
>nothing personnel kid
>unsheathes knife
>stabbity stab stab
>Poland has oil now
Yes.
>>60123494
Till Valhalla!
>>60123618
poland is dreaming again
they make our shitposts fucktard obviously
>>60123457
>>60123572
>Their headquarters rejected German pleas for aerial attacks against Leningrad[43] and did not advance farther south from the Svir River in occupied East Karelia (160 kilometres northeast of Leningrad), which they had reached on 7 September.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siege_of_Leningrad#Finnish_participation
DOUBLE LEL
>>60123594
>Russia interests
>>alcoholism
>>heroin
>>anarchy
>>sell fossil fuels
>>coerce weaker countries into economic coordination via threatening gestures and production of nukes
Please stop being stupid. Do you realize that you separate small Russian group sort of the USA's rednecks and treat them as whole country?
>>60123524
>you guys dont really believe Russia would attack Finland, right?
A lot of things can happen between now and eternity.
In all seriousness, no, but we shouldn't rely on it.
>>60123657
>implying we wouldn't if we had the chance
>>60123683
Russia pretty much leads the world in all shit category stats.
>small group of people
>>60122137
>During the Cold War both Soviet Union and the US actully targeted Finland with nukes
WTF I HATE RUSSIA AND USA NOW
>>60123524
not really but Russia isn't known of its wise and stable foreign policy
>>60122137
OP is a retard but so are you.
>>60123484
>How can you say you are not corrupt
I told you, it's a fact.
>>60123572
>>60123566
>>60123679
People in Leningrad were dying not due fights but due starvation and you kept blockade so the blame is still on you. Red army had to use Ladoga in winter to supply the city. yes, you didn't attack the city like germans wanted but you didn't let the red army to supply people that were starving too so not really better than germans that't the point, I knew finnish forces didn't actually fight or shell Leningrad but it is known here as "Blockade of Leningrad" not "battle" or "siege of Leningrad".
>>60123524
Well i dont, it's pretty retarded desu. They would gain nothing with war agains the world.
>>60123848
I am not talking about low level, I am talking about high level. Merkel sells your country to the Americans and the EU and to Turks. How are you not corrupt?
>>60123788
We also lead in space, military, innovations, hi-tech etc categories. Once again you was saying that Russians are drug addicted alcoholics and i'm telling you it doesn't work for everyone (majority).
>>60123834
well, I am not an expert on that, but it seems to me like Finland really profited from beeing the "neutral" state between USSR and the west.
As far as I know, you were even able to sell lots of shit to Russia
>>60123879
>Merkel sells your country
Is this what you call a lawful and organized international exchange of goods?
>How are you not corrupt?
Honesty is everything to us. If a nation is not honest, it missed the point. If you were part of a true European people, such as the great Finns, you'd know this.
>>60123874
Maybe you shouldn't have pissed in our face a few years before that? :^)
>>60123294
You were the commies Ivan
You were the commies
>>60123980
>Finland really profited from beeing the "neutral" state between USSR and the west.
dude... what?
>>60124104
Why'd you let them piss in your face?
Inb4: shit happens
>>60123978
Unfortunately nobody has ever seen those leading russian innovations anywhere.
I guess you have to mean Lada? It is the only russian product seen outside russia and even its most popular model was licenced from italy.
>>60124100
>Is this what you call a lawful and organized international exchange of goods?
No, it is what I call your country being no better than a prostitute.
> If a nation is not honest
You are not honest. Germans have always been liars and traitors.
>>60123980
sure but USSR pretty much said what some of our internal policies as well as foreign policies were for pretty much the whole cold war
you may want to read up on finlandization
>>60124172
There was too much piss to avoid it all
>>60123801
Little know fact is that Sweden also had a nuclear weapons program during the cold war that was aimed at developing few bombs they could use to target Finland if need arose
>>60124172
Oh we did? I didn't notice.
>>60124104
>>60124120
3mln people died including kids and old men and women that had nothing to do with commies or military, pretty much just the whole city went to exctinction. And they weren't just shot or burnt, they were suffering from hunger and frosts for month, dying slowly with the most terrible death even possible. 3 million people, just think about that number, it was compared to population of Finland in that time.
>>60123178
A. Never happened. President Ryti only gave his word that as lond as he is the president, Finns will fight the Soviets. He later resigned and Finland exited the war.
B. It's sad but I agree.
>>60123198
But I doubt there needs to be hundreds of them and while spies are somewhat understandable, special forces are not. And tell me, what else would mechanized troops do other than attack? Besides, saying that military units don't have anything to do with war is an oxymoron. We're not stupid, you know? We know damn well, what's the purpose of those cells and units stationed in and near Finland.
>>60123294
Mannerheim personally and explicitly prevented Finnish troops from taking part in the blockade. A strategic mistake in my opinion but politically a good decision.
By the way, we're not satisfied with the border. We didn't even get all of our lands in the first place, when we gained independence and you taking more of it just add insult to injury.
>>60123385
And we never were an Axis country.
>>60123392
>Karelia is Russia.
Not in our books and there's no way you can justify occupying it.
>>60123683
Majority of Russians in this thread seem to insist that invading other countries, threatening them and occupying their lands is completely ethical, so I have to go with Germany's list untill you redeem yourselves.
>>60123835
Go back to Moscow.
>>60124120
>Everyone in the Soviet Union was a Commie
>>60124190
>You are not honest.
Yes we are.
>>60124216
Why did everyone want to nuke us ffs?
WE DINDU NUFFIN
>>60123978
:^)
>>60120665
We don't need imaginary enemies for nationalist purposes like Israel-Iran, Koreas, Japan-China etc.
>>60124266
No, you are not. Give me an example of German honesty. I can give plenty of examples of the opposite.
>>60124208
Epic
>>60124237
Lulz
>>60124256
boohoo we started a war and got fucked yhyyy krokodil tears
>>60124125
>american white girl gets told
nice
>>60124256
Oh cry me a river. No amount of dead ryssäs will ever repay what you have done to us.
>>60124198
well yes, but you guys were really smart about it and managed to do trade with both sides
>>60124264
>and there's no way you can justify occupying it.
It has been part of Russia for centuries and is filled with Russians.
>>60124264
Blockade of smth is when this smth is blocked from any supplies, Leningrad was blocked from finnish side since Finland was at war with Soviet Union so you took part in blockade, because not letting red army supply the city from your territory=taking part in blockade.
>But I doubt there needs to be hundreds of them and while spies are somewhat understandable, special forces are not. And tell me, what else would mechanized troops do other than attack? Besides, saying that military units don't have anything to do with war is an oxymoron. We're not stupid, you know? We know damn well, what's the purpose of those cells and units stationed in and near Finland.
Where does our army should be stationed if not on the border then? I just can't understand where we should place it then, that's the most logical place.
>>60124337
>oohoo we started a war
Finnish education. Nazis and Finns invaded the Soviet Union, not the other way around.
>>60124343
What have we done to you? Grabbed one city and bunch of half empty lands? In the same time you got independence thanks to tsars and then Lenin and preserved your culture.
>>60124312
Look at our trade surplus. The world wouldn't buy this much from liars. Look at the rampant misery and decay in Russia. That's the world retributing centuries of Russian villainy.
>>60124478
>global pokerface
ayy lmao nigga
>>60124543
So basically nothing. Thanks for admitting it.
>>60124546
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Barbarossa
>>60124444
>Leningrad was blocked from finnish side since Finland was at war with Soviet Union so you took part in blockade
I've seen some cool ass mental gymnastics but this one takes the cake hands down. That post is so fucking dumb holy shit.
CYKA BLYAT DAWAI PETROL LAIKA DOG SPUTNIK HOMOSEX PUTIN DAWAI :DDDDD
>>60124626
Jeesus Christ, if you didn't take part in blockade, how the fuck did 3mln people die from starvation if supplies were comming from finnish side?
>>60124572
You're delusional, and probably drunk beyond belief because any other state of being makes Russians want to kill themselves.
Germany will overcome and prevail. Russia will break. This wouldn't be happening if you were hte good guys in all of this.
>>60124624
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila
ayyy we had nothing to do with that shit bitch
>>60124624
Are you literally
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila
>>60124733
>>60124747
That is the Winter War not WW2.
>Finnish education
>>60124624
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov%E2%80%93Ribbentrop_Pact
ayyy
>>60124699
Why would Finland supply their enemies?
I'm not getting your logic
>>60124699
I was mainly thinking along the lines of
>durpa derpa you are bad because you don't let enemies supply themselves through your lands
again most of the action was done by germans and the most important routes of supply transport went through the no-man's-land and through german held territory you fucking autist
>>60124774
kremlin pls
>>60124774
>winter war
>not part of world war 2
russian education
>>60124774
>Winter war not part of WW2
>Russian propaganda
I guess they teach you that invasion of Poland was not WW2 either?
![861583[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/siPIaTF.jpg "861583[1].jpg")
>>60124831
Get this one translated
see?
>>60124846
>>60124875
>>60124883
>>60124887
>Making two separate wars the same war
Does this make sense in Finland? The winter war was not part of WW2. It was a seperate war that took place in the same timeframe, but was not part of WW2 as it was unconnected, as neither participant was involved in the general war of WW2 at that point.
>>60124930
>The winter war was not part of WW2
Come on now, Igor
>>60124875
>>60124883
You signed a peace treaty after winter war did you not? so continuation war is separate. That's why it's also named differently.
>>60124977
How is it WW2 you dumb fuck? A peace treaty was already signed before either the Soviet Union or Finland were involved in WW2.
>>60124930
How does the russian ww2 history writing go? Legit interested
Does it start with the battle of Stalingrad?
>>60124930
but operation barbarossa was not WW2, it happened in the same timeframe as WW2 but was not part of WW2 as it was unconnected as its own conflict
>>60124699
They died because communism doesnt work
>>60125027
WW2 is the war started by Nazi Germany, it then expands into other countries as others join in. The Winter War was not part of WW2.
>>60125030
Operation Barbarossa was WW2 because it was an expansion of the war Hitler was already fighting against the British, French etc.
>>60120665
>When Russia finally decides to attack Finland again, should we just let them have it?
Yes.
>I do not see how protecting the Socialist Finns is worth one drop of American blood.
Your stance is sensible and understandable. I wouldn't die for this country either; why should you?
PS. gib freedomland citizenship, winland suffers from incurable socialist cancer
>the war we lost embarrasingly was actually a different war
oh russia
>>60125025
>>60124991
you might want to read this part:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_War_II#War_breaks_out_in_Europe_.281939.E2.80.9340.29
and winter war was not unconnected from main events of WW2 because winter war was the direct consequence of molotov-ribbentrop pact you fucking retard.
>>60125025
Translate this for us, please:
Ocнoвнoй кoнфликт: Bтopaя миpoвaя вoйнa
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%A1%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B5%D1%82%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%BE-%D1%84%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0_(1939%E2%80%941940)
>>60121601
>It's always been a war goal though. Good access to Baltic Sea, nice ports
Are you fucking retarded? Russia already has access to the Baltic Sea and the Mediterranean. Kaliningrad is their SHTF-backup, they don't need our land for any useful purpose whatsoever.
>>60125153
I did not say it was unconnected. I said it was not part of WW2 but a separate war.
>>60120665
It's not like BInland can't defend itself, unlike Badstonia.
>>60125096
So it starts when you are the victim? It goes like that here too, only we were the victim and you were the aggressor
There were two aggressors in the beginning of WW2, due to the Ribbentrop-Molotov pact and their shared invasion of innocent European countries
>>60125153
I'm not saying it's not unconnected. Continuation war is just a different war than winter war. That's why it's named differently, and it involved 2 peace treaties at their conclusion.
>>60125201
Okay then, I won't waste any more time with you. I get it that you're retarded.
>>60124381
The original population was Finnic and you drove them away.
>>60124444
If you didn't notice, Finnish border was right next to Leningrad, so resupply wouldn't have been possible from that side even if we weren't at war.
You have invaded quite a large portion of the Earth, so you won't run out of space to find another place but I'd suggest somewhere near Northern Ukraine, because that's the only legitimate Russian area in the whole Russia.
>>60124478
>Again forgetting Winter War
>>60124540
Let's see. There have been quite a few wars and invasions, a few occupations, slavery, Russification of Finland, threats, political pressure, smear campaigns... So that leaves a nation that has faces murder, rape and oppression for centuries and you still try to brush off the latest wars like they were nothing bad? You truly are subhumans. Least you could do would be to cease the political pressuring, threats and preparations for next war but it seems like you won't do that.
It's ironic that you bring up tsars and Lenin, because Russification of Finland happened under tsar's rule and right after we gained independence, the Red Army sided with Finnish communists and tried a coup.
Literally what it all comes down to, it's not worth it.
It's just plain and simply, when you weigh the pros and cons of it all, it's just not worth it.
>>60125156
It gives a good case for why it was not part of WW2. Since neither side was not in the general war at this point.
>>60125201
>>60121165
Who said we ever helped you nazi's?
>>60125256
Molotov Ribbentrop only happened because Poland and the Czechs refused Stalin's alliance offer in favor of the offer of the British and France, which meant that Stalin had to seek a deal elsewhere.
>>60125374
russians din du nuthin
dey good bois
givin out alliances like candy n shiet (forget the part about annexation tho)
>>60120665
>implying there will ever be a war between legitimate countries in the pax americana
>>60125096
The invasion of Poland is usually marked as the beginning of the WWII and you invaded Poland right after the Germans and much before the start of Winter War, so is not time linear in Russia or are you just interpreting history in way that suits your needs?
>>60120817
Brother.
>>60125374
Doesn't change the fact that you made a deal with the nazis to start a world war and then attacked countries with the nazis, beginning the second world war, which the winter war was very much a part of
>>60125494
>The invasion of Poland is usually marked as the beginning of the WWII
Yes, but neither the Finns or the Soviet Union were activate participants in WW2 until 1941. The Winter War was a separate war.
>>60120665
Why on earth would Russia attack Finland?
>our beautiful swamps and insect infested forests
I think America-kun is the only one who still has bad blood with Russians from USSR times.
>>60120665
WHO WILL FORGE ANOTHER GREAT MENE IF FINLAN IS KILL
Holy shit this fucking kremlinbot is insane
>>60125522
Nope, winter war was a separate war. There is no basis to make it part of WW2.
Happening at the same time =/= the same war.
>>60125549
Youre saying like sino japanese war wasn't a part of ww2
>>60125599
>>60125549
>war started because of the same pact that caused invasion of poland
>OBVIOUSLY NOT CONNECTED TO WORLD WAR 2
>>60125549
That doesn't make any sense.
>>60125599
Lol.. same front, same time, due to the literally same pact.. not same war hahahs
>>60125599
so which parts of WW2 are not really a part of the war? all the ones that make russia look really really incomepent and bad?
>>60121765
... i doubt Putin is stupid enough to use nukes on border countries, the fallout etc crap would go over to your side too you know.
desu i doupt Putin has any interest in attacking Finland unless we join Nato and allow murricans to set up weapons on our soil.
>>60125718
Not to mention comically evil.
>>60125639
Not until they made common enemies and the wars became one.
The Sino-Japanese war is a separate war as well until the Japanese attack the Allied powers.
>>60125670
>>60125691
Did the war have the same participants? No. Then it is not the same war. Strategic deals do not define which war it was part of.
>>60125718
All the ones without common participants.
>>60125674
It makes perfect sense. You just do not understand history.
>>60125772
>All the ones without common participants.
>two european countries
>not common participants
how much are they paying you? lol
>>60125755
>desu i doupt Putin has any interest in attacking Finland unless we join Nato and allow murricans to set up weapons on our soil.
murricans already have weapons in Poland and Estonia, i.e. in locations close to the Motherland. NATO or no NATO, US armament or no US armament, Russia has no interest in messing with us.
>>60125875
Two European countries which were not part of WW2 at that point.
Why are you incapable of understanding what defines a war?
Daily reminder that both the Winter War and Continuation War were a part of the Second World War and were both started by Soviet aggression
>>60125772
>It makes perfect sense.
Maybe I should have been born as a Russian and be malnutritioned for all my childhood to gain such mental handicap.
>>60125922
Even by your definition you were part of WWII when you attacked us. At least our history books still have a chapter about the invasion of Poland of which you were part of and the same pact caused that invasion also caused Winter War.
>>60125922
Soviet Union became a part of the second world war when they tried to put their part of Ribbentrop-Molotov pact in action
I repeat: Soviet Union became a part of the second world war by invading Finland just like Nazi Germany became a part of the second world war by invading Poland
>Be sweden in ww2
>Norway got annexed
>Denmark got annexed
>Finland go axis
>In early 1945
>Join the war as allied and swipe all those weakened Nazis and Finland from behind
>?????
>United Scandinavia
>>60126081
No, The Winter War was a separate war as it did not have common participants with the main war.
>>60126073
>Even by your definition you were part of WWII when you attacked us
No, because there were no common participants.
>>60126148
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_invasion_of_Poland
What is this then?
