In this thread we discuss the most magical languages on the the earth
- Which Slavic language beats which Slavic language?
- Which sounds the best?
- Which would you like to learn?
- Why do Poles still have nasal vowels?
3. russian
>slovenian in the wendish branch
Slovak language is easiest for other slavs to understand. Cyrillic was created thanks to Slovak duke.
Therefore we beat all other slavs.
Fuck, the languages are in Cyrillic. The numbers will have to suffice for those that can't read Cyrillic
How about we rate our top 5 Slavic languages?
1. Polish
2. Russian
3. Serbian
4. Slovak
5. Czech
>>60047415
thank you based slovak
>>60047455
>2016
>can't read Cyrillic
anon
>>60047455
>How about we rate our top 5 Slavic languages?
russian
belarusian
ukrainian
slovak
serbian
i dont rate polish since im a native
>>60047286
>- Why do Poles still have nasal vowels?
Not only Poles. All languages from Lechitic subgroup of West Slavic languages do have nasals. It's archaic feature.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lechitic_languages
Btw what do you guys think about Kashubian language?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oxM8PWqh2_Q
>>60047521
>Kaszebe non-ironically
REMOVE TRAITOROUS CZARNE GARDŁO REEEEEEEEE
KASZUB TO TWÓJ WRÓG
>>60047505
That's fair. I'm both happy and unhappy about not having a Slavic language as a first language
I can't say anything about Kashubian but the orthography is confusing
>>60047557
Be nice, Bolku
>>60047286
3. Old East Slavic and Upper Sorbian language
>>60047611
>Bolku
you just don't know what you've done now
>>60047611
I thought you are polak
>>60047637
Przyjdź na mnie, bracie
>>60047636
This nigger styling
>>60047649
I'm Kurdish so I'm partially Polish
>>60047747
>so I'm partially Polish
memes or what
>>60047747
So polaks are Sarmatians,Vandals and now kurds aswell
>>60047796
MY
>>60047747
Substantiate. Do you know at least one Slavic language?
>>60047286
Arr rook the same.
>>60047835
Russian and I'm studying Polish and Czech. How about you? Have you studied any other Slavic language?
>>60047860
sorry, kimchi :(
>>60047860
t. Zhao Pyong-Im Takahashi
>>60047286
What are the percentages supposed to mean?
>>60047747
From listening to Kurdish fighters in those war videos I could deduce that Kurdish sounds pretty nice and it has a weird, almost slavic quality to it.
>>60047933
lexical distance I guess
>>60047903
are you half kurdish or what
>>60047286
fuck all the slavs
>>60047796
Yes, We are both Sarmatians and Vandals but ultimately We are descendants of ancient Sumerians just FYI.
>>60047933
Intelligibility or something
>>60047945
brader herdem
>>60047996
100% Kurd and proud
>>60048048
no fuck you Slavic rape child
>>60047903
Знaю pyccкий. Пoдoбнo тeбe я изyчaю Пoльcкий. Я нaчaл coмнeвaтьcя в твoeй кoмпeтeнции. Пoчeмy ты cчитaeшь, чтo изyчeниe Лyжицкoгo и Дpeвнepyccкoгo языкoв cyть nigger styling?
>>60047945
it's because Kurds are Indo-European of the Persian branch, like us
>>60048066
>ancient Sumerians
>mfw
>>60047286
Polish sounds badass for me. But it's so fucking hard to read due to impossible digraphs.
>>60048171
I don't think Slavic languages are of the Indo-Iranian branch even though most slavic tribes trace some sort of descent (cultural or otherwise) from Iranian tribes of the east.
>>60048139
Tы нeпpaвильнo мeня пoнял. Я имeл в видy, чтo этo кpyтo, хoтя c нeмнoгo иpoниeй, и кaкaя здecь мoжeт быть кoмпeтeнция? Mы нa интe cидим и y мeня дaжe бaкaлaвpa нeт
>>60048220
Give me a sec and I'll straighten it out for you
>>60048220
Use the transliteration tool, Luke
http://steen.free.fr/cyrpol/index.html#transcription
>>60048239
Slavic languages are closer to Indo-Iranic than to any other IE language.
>>60048220
sz ш
cz ч
dż дж
dź дзь
rz ж
si cь
zi зь
ci ть
dzi дь
ni нь
>>60048352
That's true.
>>60048354
szcz - щ
ż - ж
ź - зь
ó - o
ę - Ѧ
ą - Ѫ
>>60048245
Oх ты ж. Яcнo. Oпять я cтyпил c aнглийcким.
Кaк пpoхoдит ocвoeниe пoльcкoгo? Mнe нaчaлo кaзaтьcя, чтo пoльcкий - бoлee пpaвильный cлaвянcкий язык. Haвepнякa, из-зa coхpaнeния тaм нocoвых глacных.
>>60048467
>ę - Ѧ
>ą - Ѫ
>>60048220
A - A(E)
Ą - У/Ю (ią-я)
C - Ц
Ć - TЬ
E - E(O)
Ę - У/Ю(ię-я)
H - Х
L - ЛЬ
Ł - Л
Ń - HЬ
Ó - O
R - P
RZ - PЬ
S - C
Ś - CЬ
W - B
Z - З
Ż - Ж
Ź - ЗЬ
SZ - Ш
CZ - Ч
CH - Х
SZCZ - Щ
I might've missed something, but this is the etymological way of looking at it and is not how they're pronounced
>>60048354
>rz ж
Why not pь? Peкa is more understandable than жeкa.
>>60048245
>>60048351
>>60048354
It's easy to read them separated one by one, but in whole words especially hard ones, they look like a mess.
>Grzegorz Brzęczyszczykiewicz
Holy shit, even moon runes are easier.
>>60048467
*ó - y
>>60048541
rz indicated that it used to be the same as Czech ř
Slovak read it as ż, just like us
>>60048467
>Ѫ
>Ѧ
aliens and bacteria
>>60048467
>ę - Ѧ
>ą - Ѫ
the what
>>60048498
>>60048570
Glagolitic is even more hardcore
>>60048619
Space invaders
Protoslavic nasal o evolved into ą and ę in polish and into u in Russian
Protoslavic nasal e evolved into ią and ie in polish and into is in russian
>>60048498
>>60048570
>>60048619
ią - Ѭ
ię - Ѩ
test:
ludzie. ona pokazała faka do tego który gwizdal a gościu w czarnej koszulce pomyślał że to do niego i ja złapał za ta szmate co ma na szyi..
льyдьэ. oнa пoкaзaлa фaкa дo тэгo ктypы гвиздaль a гocьциy в чapнэй кoшyльцэ пoмыcьлял жэ тo дo ньэгo и я злaпaл зa тa шмaтэ цo мa нa шыи..
>>60048707
ia* in Russian
Also rz is soft r, ł is hard and l is soft
>>60048483
Изo вceх cлaвянcких языкoв пoльcкий мнe нpaвитcя бoльшe вceгo, чacтичнo из-зa нocoвых, нo ecть eщё кpyтыe вeщи, кaк gwiazda, lato - lecie, się и втopaя пaлaтaлизaция
>>60048619
I swear to God I'm gonna have a tattoo of them
>>60048762
spelling errors lad
>>60048215
>implying Sumerians were niggers
pls
>>60048762
Looks like Belarussian lel
>>60048762
ludzie. ona pokazała faka do tego, który gwizdał, a gościu w czarnej koszulce pomyślał, że to do niego i ja złapał za tą szmatę, co ma na szyi..
>>60048762
PLS stop
I actually like Cyrillic but making that shit in 5 minutes without any thought and linguistic knowledge is retarded
>>60048762
I don't think that дь sounds same as dz
>>60047505
>ukrainian
no such language
>>60048929
more like дз
дь would be dzi, as it's palatalised
>>60047286
>Serbian
you mean Croatian
>>60048878
>>60048822
It's a copypaste from Youtube. I've found one more:
Dwie pijane i prawdopodobnie naćpane brudasice, robiące zamieszanie i do tego palące w wagonie, powinien zajebać ze łba a nie tak się patyczkować.
Who can make correct cyrillic version?
>>60048997
croissant on apparatuses
>>60048997
Who gives a shit
Just call it Herzegovinian-Montenegrin
>>60049066
Croatian
>>60048878
>людe. oнa пoкaзaлa фaкa дo тэгo, ктypы гвиздaл, a гocтю в чapнэй кoшyльцэ пoмыcлял, жe тo дo нeгo и я злaпaл зa тѫ шмaтѧ, цo мa нa шии..
>>60049050
sth like this
двe пиянэ и пpaвдoпoдoбнe нaчьпaнэ бpyдacицэ, poбиąцэ зaмeшaнe и дo тэгo пaлąцэ в вaгoнe, пoвинeн зaeбaчь зe лбa a нe тaк cиę пaтычкoвaчь
i/и pair is better than и/ы
and ы is the ugliest letter in any alphabet, it even has the soft sign when it should be the hard one
>>60049050
Двe пиянэ и пpaвдoпoдoбнe нaтьпaнэ бpyдacицe, poбę̈цe зaмeшaнe и дo тэгo пaлę̈цe в вaгoнe, пoвинeн зaeбaть зэ лбa a нe тaк cę пaтычкoвaть.
>>60049050
Двe пиянэ и пpaвдoпoдoбнe нaтьпaнэ бpyдacицэ, poбѭцэ зaмeшaнe и дo тэгo пaлѭцэ в вaгoнe, пoвинeн зaeбaть зэ лбa a нe тaк cѩ пaтычкoвaть.
>>60049194
there's no soft T sound in Polish
instant indicator of Russian/Ukrainian/Belarussian origin
>>60047286
I demand that this thread be deleted immediatley or the Serbian be changed into Croatian
>>60049263
serbs and croats speak the same language
>>60049235
ć is the soft t you moron
same with dź - d
>>60049285
its called croatian
>>60049286
...no?
t' and d' simply don't exist in Polish, ć and dź are alveolo-palatal, not dental
t. actual linguist
>>60049347
you said
>there's no soft T sound
and that's not true
I'm not talking about where they are made in your mouth
Cyrillic is a phonemic script and phonemically, t-ć and d-dź make hard-soft pairs
also screencap of your degree
>>60049347
It's not about phonetics. Phonologically, ć and dź are still the soft pairs for t and d: most - na moście, ślad - w śladzie etc
>>60049430
have you ever wondered why there are no native Polish words with "ti" "di" clusters in nominative?
because they all assimilated into "ci" "dzi"
the pairing you speak of is called manner of articulation, in this case the difference is between fricatives and affricates
t' and d' are not affricates, they are palatalised stops, the difference lies in the way they are articulated
Polish does not utilise these sounds but they fit the spectrum
>>60049430
Is not cz pair for ć?
>>60049347
There are actually some palatalised sounds in Polish that haven't become ć, ź, rz or si, only in loanwords though. I think maksimum is one of those words
>>60049550
the "soft pair" for t is t', a palatalised dental sound
ć is a "soft pair" of cz
>>60047415
>Slovak duke
Russian is the only relevant one.
>>60049573
oh my fucking god I'm saying that the exact sounds actually don't matter when writing because cyrillic is phonemic and not phonetic
>>60049636
>>60049575
No
t under palatalization becomes ć (or sometimes szcz when it's 'st' cluster)
K in first palatalization became cz
see this page
http://xpicto.republika.pl/slavonia/zagadnienia/palatalizacja.html
>>60049636
Phonetically — yes, but, as I said, it's not about phonetics. Russian ть isn't actual [tʲ] too, but we still write it like ть, because it alternates with [t] in the same way as [s] alternates with [sʲ].
>>60049753
>xpicto.republica.pl
thanks, I'd rather use an IPA chart, the tool used by actual linguists
>>60049795
the argument was that Polish uses t' - it simply doesn't
to represent ć in Cyrillic it's more apt to apply ь to ч, then it works phonemically
ть is not a combination that would happen in the standard Polish language, phonology-wise
>>60048997
>>60049263
>>60049313
>>60049801
jesus fuck
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_first_palatalization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavic_second_palatalization
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Proto-Slavic#First_regressive_palatalization
>>60049913
what are you trying to state here?
in Modern Polish there's no t' nor d', it's a fact - using them in writing is an error
diachronic evolution of the Polish language is not relevant in this argument
>>60050006
>in Modern Polish there's no t' nor d', it's a fact - using them in writing is an error
I realize and agree with you on that
but put your head out of your ass because you're not even trying to understand what I'm saying
>diachronic evolution of the Polish language is not relevant in this argument
it is relevant because these sound changes still exist in our language
see C in romance languages, let's say french - it's pronounced [k] almost everywhere , but before i or e it palatalizes and becomes [s]
It's the same thing as in polish and some other slav languages
>>60050006
We have ť and ď why no poland
>>60049869
Do you even hear me? I wasn't talking about phonetics. It's not really important how this "ć" actually sounds, what matters is that it alternates with "t".
Using ть and дь for [t͡ɕ] and [d͡ʑ] makes words save their look in different cases: cтyдeнт - cтyдeнти definitely looks better than cтyдэнт - cтyдэнчи.
>>60050006
>>60049913
Slavshit = regressive
>>60050324
>cтyдeнт - cтyдeнти
>cтyдэнт - cтyдэнти
self-fix
>>60050298
assimilated into ć dź
>>60050272
sound changes exist... so? the original argument seems to have been about Lat->Cyr transliteration, not about sound changes
otherwise we would have to demand that English "night" is written as нaйхт because gh used to be sound
>>60050324
ć does not alternate with t, it alternates with c
take a look at the chart I've posted above
>>60050324
>cтyдeнт - cтyдeнти definitely looks better than cтyдэнт - cтyдэнчи
you messed up the э and e
cyrillic 'e' would logically be the -ie in polish desu
>>60047415
>Slovak duke
Ebin joke famalam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJhPOaX89_4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcJhVYHvXcs
>>60047286
>Which sounds the best?
Polish
>>60050423
Rastislav was slovak you dumb pepik
>>60050393
>ć does not alternate with t
Are you blind or something?
>student - studenci
>świat - na świecie
>>60050478
word-final T turns into C when next to a high vowel in Polish, then palatalises to Ć
it's a language feature and I'll be frank with you - deal with it, Polish is not Russian and works differently
>>60050418
I know, i have already fixed that here >>60050378
"cтyдeнт - cтyдeнти" is still possible if you use Ukrainian e/є instead of Russian э/e.
>>60050473
>Morava is Slovakia
WE WUZ MORAVIANS AND JEBÁÁŤ
Just because you have no real history doesn't mean you can just steal from others.
>>60050393
>that English "night" is written as нaйхт
if you're transcribing english into some w/e language that uses cyrillic you should go for the closest thing phonetically (I'm talking about transcription and not word adaptation), unless you're making some sophisticated scientific method of transcription
because writing etymologically should only happen if the words are connected to your language's family
>transliteration
here's your problem
you're trying to apply cyrillic on polish very closely without understanding neither polish and cyrillic and how they would work together
>>60047286
>Serbian
Triggered
>>60050622
Where did i say it is slovakian
>>60050687
protip - Russian is not the only kind of Cyrillic, if Polish is to be conveyed by it then it needs its own set of Cyrillic rules and most probably additional letters
you know why? because Polish follows different phonological rules than Russian
>>60050796
In "Rastislav was slovak"
>>60050854
But he was
>>60050549
Again: It doesn't really matter how it actually sounds, if there's an opportunity to reduce the number of alternations the written language, you should better use it.
That's why I wouldn't like to write «вoдa» like «вaдa» or «пяти» like «пити».
BGM for this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UflPSiYMLuQ
>>60050888
Stop already my sides hurt too much. Just because Moravians fucked proto-Slovak shit up and conquered them doesn't mean VM is even remotely Slovak.
>>60050946
reducing alternations is one of two strategies, arguably the inferior one - that's why Russian teenagers have to pass Russian ortography on EGE exam
the other strategy is to ignore the phonological context and simply write exactly what you speak, like in Serbo-Croatian
>>60050888
>>60050998
now kiss and make up
>>60051014
So, you would prefer to write "żeka" instead of "rzeka" and "cziasto" instead of "ciasto"?
>>60050998
>conquered
Slovaks are moravians. Rastislav is name that appears only in Slovakia. Those are facts
>>60051106
ćasto*
it's impossible to introduce such changes at this stage of human development when the overwhelming majority of people is literate and writes stuff on daily basis
back in the day less people actually wrote so it was much easier to introduce new standards
what I would personally prefer is to use a different script than Latin but I understand its role in Polish history and culture
>>60051116
And only you call him like that. He's Rostislav.
https://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostislav
>Slovaks are moravians
Yeah, and Afro-americans are Egyptians, kek. You need to realise that Slovaks are the only ones thinking this because you need to create at least a bit of history for yourself.
>>60050803
>protip - Russian is not the only kind of Cyrillic, if Polish is to be conveyed by it then it needs its own set of Cyrillic rules and most probably additional letters
true
but still you're applying cyrillic wrong by not taking advantage of existing rules and possibilities. In your case it's not understanding how consonant softening (does this word trigger you less?)works
>arguably the inferior one
nigger т->ть is the simplest shit that exists, it's not hard at all and is more logical. You're just applying the phonetics where they don't matter
and btw, your beloved tir and your friend Mati would be written тъip, Maтъi (or тъиp, Maтъи if you prefer и/ы pair over i/и)
>>60051289
and to clarify that's the hard sign ъ, not the soft one ь
>>60051289
I prefer not to confuse palatalised t with a completely different sound just because it used to be it
unless you propose regressing to the state when t' was widely used and there was no such thing as ć
>>60051263
>kek education
Meno Rastic totiž s koreňom „rast“ (rásť, latinsky crescere, z čoho Crescentius) v našom životnom priestore nemohol mať ani člen našich západných, ani severných, ani východných slovanských susedov, lebo tí všetci vo svojich jazykoch majú koreň „rost“ (rosti). Mohlo teda byť iba slovenského (prípadne slovinského) pôvodu
Slovaks are modern descendants of Moravian tribe. Thats not even debatable
>>60051400
Look at it this way: words that have the 'ti' combination in our polish are almost exclusively words of foreign origin. Therefore they should be less important and we should not focus on them instantly. Every script should be built around the native words' needs, and most have been made that way.
putting the hard sign before 'i' is a good way because it marks the consonant hard and at the same time it resets the way those two would otherwise interact. тi would be latin ci, using the hard sign allows to write words that break the native polish, slavic-rooted pattern
>unless you propose regressing to the state when t' was widely used
your stubbornness is something else, open your mind
>>60051692
>slovak mental gymnastics to create history
Bu he wasn't Rastislav, but Rostislav, only you call him like that.
>Moravians destroy Pribináček an add Nitra to their empire
>just as several more areas
>1200 ears later
>MY BOLI MORAVANI GADŽO!!!!
>>60051927
I seem to have finally understood your argument
what you keep proposing is to reduce the t'-ć difference to a spectrum based on etymology, whereas the idea present in Polish Latin is basically phonologically contrastive
these are two different strategies of composing writing systems, I've discussed them above
the less effective one in my opinion
>>60047286
>>60047455
1. Upper Carniolan
2. Carinthian
3. Lower Carniolan
3. Styrian
4. Prekmurje
5. Littoral
6. general Slovene
7. non-Slovene Slavic languages
>>60052140
7. Slovak
8. Czech
9. Polish
10. Serbo-Croatian
11. Russian
12. Bulgarian
I don't know anything about the other languages. Interslavic doesn't really qualify.
>>60052029
His name was Rastic.
You don't understand at all. Moravian tribe came into eastern europe in 6th century. Nitra and Great Moravia were both formed by people of this tribe in 9th century. Western moravians became czech and eastern moravians slovaks
>Will never be accepted into /slav/
>Will never be accepted into /finno urgic/
>>60052084
Finally
And not just etymology, also morphophonology
The thing is making a writing system requires greater knowledge that average speaker would have, or would use only subconsciously
Yes scripts can be focused on one thing: only being phonetic or only being phonemic but sometimes it doesn't cost much to cross these boundaries, especially if its the smallest and simplest thing
>>60052390
/balto-slav/ when?
>>60052454
observe the example of student:
in Polish it's generally preferred to say "studenci", thus applying palatalisation
it's theoretically possible to say "studenty", retaining T at the expense of palatalisation, as in Ukrainian
ти vs. ты will be a source of countless spelling errors especially considering foreign words, constructions and non-standard variations, (cf. tir and Mati, your own examples), especially considering that non-urban Central and Eastern Polish often mixes i and y using a single sound (common in English, cf. "bit")
Polish is simply too different from Russian in this respect and I don't find this suggestion to be useful
>>60052491
Never. Fuck Żmudzins
>>60052491
No, we don't need baltic shitposting here, even though we are close with baltic historically. Just look at their general.
>>60052957
>studenci
That's springs in Slovene. We use študenti.
>>60052982
/indo-euro/, then?
>>60047286
>cyrillic alphabet
Heresy.
>>60053427
>>60052957
You're just not used to it
It's infinitely easier than Thai or English,and even the English kids manage fine
Or look at romance speakers, they manage to read C correctly
And it'snot like Russians invented what I'm talking about
Dialects are another matter, I'm talking about standard polish
>>60053477
kek
>>60053477
>>60053477
Saved.
It's perfectly fine to join Hitla if you want to remove rusnya.
>>60053427
u wot m8?
>>60052329
>Interslavic doesn't really qualify
But you must agree that it is kind of awesome
>>60054660
Medslovanščina je meme jezik, če povem po pravici.
>>60047286
I've just created Polish<>Russian transliteration table for http://www.benya.com/transliterator/
Can someone check if it's correct?
[["A", "A"],["a", "a"],["Б", "B"],["б", "b"],["B", "W"],["в", "w"],["Г", "G"],["г", "g"],["Д", "D"],["д", "d"],["E", "Ie"],["e", "ie"],["Ё", "Io"],["ё", "io"],["Ж", "Ż"],["ж", "ż"],["З", "Z"],["з", "z"],["И", "I"],["и", "i"],["Й", "Ji"],["й", "ji"],["К", "K"],["к", "k"],["Л", "L"],["л", "l"],["M", "M"],["м", "m"],["H", "N"],["н", "n"],["O", "O"],["o", "o"],["П", "P"],["п", "p"],["P", "R"],["p", "r"],["C", "S"],["c", "s"],["T", "T"],["т", "t"],["У", "U"],["y", "u"],["Ф", "F"],["ф", "f"],["Х", "H"],["х", "h"],["Ц", "C"],["ц", "c"],["Ч", "Cz"],["ч", "cz"],["Ш", "Sz"],["ш", "sz"],["Щ", "Szcz"],["щ", "szcz"],["Ъ", "''"],["ъ", "''"],["Ы", "Y"],["ы", "y"],["Ь", "'"],["ь", "'"],["Э", "E"],["э", "e"],["Ю", "Ju"],["ю", "ju"],["Я", "Ja"],["я", "ja"],["Ль", "L"],["ль", "l"],["Лe", "Le"],["лe", "le"],["Лё", "Lo"],["лё", "lo"],["Ли", "Li"],["ли", "li"],["Лй", "Li"],["лй", "li"],["Лю", "Lu"],["лю", "lu"],["Ля", "La"],["ля", "la"],["Tь", "Ć"],["ть", "ć"],["Te", "Će"],["тe", "će"],["Tё", "Ćo"],["тё", "ćo"],["Tи", "Ci"],["ти", "Ci"],["Tй", "Ći"],["тй", "ći"],["Tю", "Ću"],["тю", "ću"],["Tя", "Ća"],["тя", "ća"],["c", "s"],["p", "r"],["y", "u"],["e", "ie"]]
>repeating ["c", "s"],["p", "r"],["y", "u"],["e", "ie"] at the end fixes different coding problems
http://pastebin.com/5XhxG1Ww
>>60055140
>>60055140
I have this javascript in my bookmarks, I modified to fit polish:
javascript:(function(){(function(){var clusters={Дь:'Ď',дь:'ď',Ць:'Ć',ць:'ć',Ль:'L',ль:'l',Ли:'Li',ли:'li',Лe:'Le',лe:'le',Лю:'Lu',лю:'lu',ия:'ija',Ля:'La',ля:'la',Лё:'Lo',лё:'lo',Hь:'Ń',нь:'ń',Pь:'Ŕ',pь:'ŕ',Cь:'Ś',cь:'ś',Tь:'Ť',ть:'ť',Зь:'Ź',зь:'ź'};var clusterRegexp=new RegExp(Object.keys(clusters).join('|'),'g');var letters={A:'A',a:'a',Б:'B',б:'b',Ц:'C',ц:'c',Ч:'Cz',ч:'cz',Д:'D',д:'d',E:'Je',e:'ie',Ё:'Jo',ё:'io',Э:'E',э:'e',Ф:'F',ф:'f',Ґ:'G',ґ:'g',Г:'G',г:'g',I:'I',i:'i',Ы:'Y',ы:'y',Ю:'Ju',ю:'iu',Я:'Ja',я:'ia',Й:'J',й:'j',К:'K',к:'k',Л:'Ł',л:'ł',M:'M',м:'m',H:'N',н:'n',O:'O',o:'o',П:'P',п:'p',P:'R',p:'r',C:'S',c:'s',Ш:'Sz',ш:'sz',Щ:'Szcz',щ:'szcz',T:'T',т:'t',У:'U',y:'u',B:'W',в:'w',И:'I',и:'i',З:'Z',з:'z',Ж:'Ż',ж:'ż',Х:'Ch',х:'ch',Ь:'′',ь:'′'};var letterRegexp=new RegExp(Object.keys(letters).join('|'),'g');function transliterate(text){return text.replace(clusterRegexp,function(cluster){return clusters[cluster];}).replace(letterRegexp,function(letter){return letters[letter];});}function replaceAll(){var walker=document.createTreeWalker(document.body,NodeFilter.SHOW_TEXT,null,false);var node=walker.nextNode();while(node){node.nodeValue=transliterate(node.nodeValue);node=walker.nextNode();}}replaceAll();}());})();
>>60055294
t. samefag
It wont really work for 4chan though because moot decided to combine identical looking letters in latin and cyrillic, like c, p etc.
>>60055370
>It wont really work for 4chan though because moot decided to combine identical looking letters in latin and cyrillic, like c, p etc.
>>repeating ["c", "s"],["p", "r"],["y", "u"],["e", "ie"] at the end fixes different coding problems
Now I know why I had to do this
not a samefag btw
>>60055140
>["Й", "Ji"],["й", "ji"],
This is not correct, "й" depends on context.
Got bored checking upper and lower case and didn't read further, but stuff after "я" is questionable.
>>60055370
The transliteration table is for:
https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/addon/transliterator/?src=external-homepage
You select some text and press your hotkey. Quite useful
>>60055562
>й
I always thought that й was like j in serbian
Хиeлoy, хoy aбayт coмe : ЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪЪ
1. Czech
2. Slovak
3. Slovene
4. Serbo-Croatian
5. Belarussian
6. Polish
7. Russian
8. Ukrainian
>>60055140
>će
>ćo
>ći
>ću
>ća
A dirty Indian detected. Poo in the loo
>>60055951
>A dirty Indian detected. Poo in the loo
Tia
>>60056016
Tja*
You can't even do this you retard
>>60055951
>map lists both upper and lower case
Indian code, yeah.
>>60056133
>map lists both upper and lower case
And all of them wrong, Sergei.
>>60056174
>Sergei
Sirgay
>>60056133
>>60056174
Stop being so rude, you damn slavs.
>>60048542
Гжeгoж Бжeчыщыкeвич
not hard
>>60050478
>student - studenci
>the plural of student is springs
Now that's what I call Slavic humour.
Dear slavic grammar
Please decrease the declension and stop changing nouns in case that the number is 2-4 or not
It is, but russians have more than one way of writing j
If it's first they use "j-vowels" like я, ю, e.
If it's last - й(мoй, пpиeзжaй)
After consonant - j-vowel+soft or hard sign(cъecть, пoдъeзд, кoмпьютep, шью)
After vowel - with j-vowel(дaю, paбoтaю)
>>60053059
>That's springs in Slovene. We use študenti.
Also študentje, m8, but there's no difference in usage, but the form I mentioned is probably older and more Slovene and the second newer and more Serbocroatian.
>>60055794
dobarta danta, bratatatatata
I just had my last exam and I'm about to play dota as if my life depended on it. Anyone wanna play with me?
>>60056549
Imaš prav. V resnici večkrat uporabljam obliko z -je.
>>60056608
Dota is trash play league
>>60056706
Im serious only cancerkids valve fanbois play dota
>>60056476
says the man who counts cylindrical and none-cylindrical objects differently
>>60056751
fight me irl
>>60056476
west slavs use nominative pl for 2-4 and genitive plural for 5 and above, but czech and polish got vocative
>tfw 25 letters in muh alphabet representing 27 sounds + unwritten semivowel sound
>tfw no digraphs except for lj and nj
>tfw no soft sounds, hard sounds, soft consonants, characters that modify the sounds in the adjacent positions
Have we won Slavic orthography?
>>60057241
I like the Russian orthography the best, where it's either the vowel telling if it's soft, or some consonants that are either always hard or soft
>>60057241
I think we have even more straightforward orthography, but I'm not sure
>>60057241
Yeah but MUH DVOJINA makes your grammar needlessly complicated.
>>60061925
>t. vas dva
git gud
>>60062147
I'd say vas dvije or vas dvojica da budem poprilično iskren.
>>60062297
Takodje
>>60062297
>>60062343
Jeziki brez dvojine so primitivni, po pravici povedano.
>>60062602
Nope, you only sound like a pompous faggot when using it
>>60061661
You do, but that's because you have fewer vowel sounds and simplified accentuation while still sharing exactly the same alphabet as us (with the exception of the letters ć and đ, which we lack).
>>60047415
Cyrilic was created in Bulgaria you fucking gypsy retard.
>>60062746
Not that guy, but yeah, I agree. Also, ć and đ are kind of gay letters/sounds anyway
>>60047415
>>60062820
>Cyril
>Methodius
>Byzantine
You did give me good laughs though, with that Bulgaria and
>Slovak duke
ayyyyyy
>>60063063
>Methodius
Inheritis Methodius! Abstractis Overridus!
>>60062728
>pompous faggot
>retarded caveman
Hmmm, mislim da vem, katero bi izbral ti. Oziroma vidva (hah, dvojina je super!) s Hrvatom oba (vidiš, z eno besedo sem opredelil točno število).
>>60063310
>(vidiš, z eno besedo sem opredelil točno število).
Ma svaka ti cast
btw
>has a choice to not be a faggot
>still chooses to be a faggot
Da, 100% Slovenac, potvrdjeno
>tfw you wasn't born Serbian
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJZ0xZuW7mw
>>60063476
UGA BUGA WE WUZ KEBAB REMOVERS
>tfw Russian dialects are almost dead
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnvi9yqZjrogjb8day2RISsX6HpBBPUg8
>>60065714
fucked up link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aM5dvjvJO6M&list=PLnvi9yqZjrogjb8day2RISsX6HpBBPUg8
>>60047286
>slovenski jezik
>in the broader west Slavic branch
what am I reading?
>>60063476
Wanna trigger Slovenia's autism?
Just follow me
>Slovenia
literally a meme country
Works every time.
>>60053033
lel it's like they're all 12 or they're trying hard to act like they are 12
are all balts like that?
>>60065875
this
>>60065714
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2eAvAoJAAQ&index=2&list=PLnvi9yqZjrogjb8day2RISsX6HpBBPUg8
I like this one
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D0%BE%D0%BB%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B4%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B3%D1%80%D1%83%D0%BF%D0%BF%D0%B0_%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%BE%D0%B2#.D0.A4.D0.BE.D0.BD.D0.B5.D1.82.D0.B8.D0.BA.D0.B0
Oтcyтcтвиe /j/ в интepвoкaльнoм пoлoжeнии — явлeния accимиляции и cтяжeния в вoзникaющих пpи этoм coчeтaниях глacных y глaгoлoв: дếл[aэ]т, дếл[aa]т, дếл[a]т; зн[áэ]т, зн[áa]т, зн[á]т (в coчeтaнии aйe); yм[éэ]т, yм[é]т; м[óэ]т, м[ó]т (в coчeтaниях eйe, oйe); и y пpилaгaтeльных: нóв[aa], нóв[a]; мoлoд[áa], мoлoд[á] (в coчeтaнии aйa); нóв[yy], нóв[y]; мoлoд[ýy], мoлoд[ý] (в coчeтaнии yйy); нóв[ы]; мoлoд[ы́] (в coчeтaнии ыйe) и т. п.[3][30].
Remins me of the Czech words stát (stojat) and bát se (bojat se)
>>60066669
I've knew an old man who spoke like this girl in a video.
>>60066669
>Boлoгoдcкaя гpyппa гoвopoв
eh.. I don't find it specially appealing. It has this annoying intonation and o-kanje sounds funny in Russian.
I suppose this dialect was created as a result of Slavic migration into Finnic ethnic are
Contributing with two of our funniest dialects, spoken on the eastern border of Slovenia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sbmsnNbr4w
you can hear the difference as the narrator speaks the official dialect
>>60067456
>official dialect
>>60048048
So go fuck yourself then. We are Slavic.
>>60067709
>implying our standard language is but a carefully picked central dialect
>>60047286
All came from ancient jewish language.
>>60067902
Kakšno centralno narečje? Knjižna slovenščina je zmazek iz gorenjskega in dolenjskega narečja, ki je skozi čas dobil še nekaj dodatkov.
>>60068097
https://cs523518.vk.me/u144327068/videos/00e98a9eab.360.mp4?extra=ZH3YwW7I9rqlzfe_iq60_dK144Ikl7lfHKDVo82mgd88lS8c1vNtOBLAjGnRHjVMWT67bvetRpadSXXfZfvtBBOUGsl3EWmBhqjTMZnfbe3_h9nEmDSy_tikWvrumnr1PO1d8cWbxuXx8tY
>>60047286
Czech sounds best, Polish sounds worst.
>>60068128
>le wikipedija quote
Osrednjeslovenski dialekt - Celjski, natančneje južno od Celja govorijo najbolj pravilno. Ne krajšajo končnic kot gorenjci, ne u-kajo, ne a-kajo in ne diftongizirajo vokalov kot dolenjci.
>>60068378
>page not found
>>60066669
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrIfKG9qMu4
>I like this one
You'll probably like this.
>>60068807
Sounds good
>>60068599
try this one
vk com/video257454250_169168799
>>60068578
Prvič slišim,da bi se Celje štelo v osrednjo Slovenijo. Je pa knjižna Slovenščina res nastala v osrednji Sloveniji - na Kranjskem.
Bulgarian has always appealed to me because of the whole Turkic thing
>>60068994
>vk com/video257454250_169168799
This is great, I wonder why it was removed from yt so quickly..
>>60069176
>Bulgarian has always appealed to me because of the whole Turkic thing
pic
>>60068994
Man thank you, i was looking up for this video for ages.
>>60047286
>- Which Slavic language beats which Slavic language?
Russian is the best.
>- Which sounds the best?
Serbian/Croatian.
>- Which would you like to learn?
Serb/Croatian, Russian, Old Church Slavonic
But Slavic languages are hard.
>>60069230
>>60069283
np:)))
I really like this song too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvXqe84E5Iw
There are lyrics in the description
>>60069303
Good choices, you could pick a west slavic language, they're really cool
>>60047415
>slovak duke
>>60063063
>>60069596
>>60062820
Rastic was Slovak you fucktards, Constantine and Methodius came to Europe thanks to him you fags
>>60069718
Constantine made glagolica, it was later on that the Bulgarians in Ohrid made it simpler to write and turned it into cyrillic.
>you fags
no need for mad bro
>>60069838
we are small country, 1000+ years under Hungary then overshadowed by big brother česko and those niggers want to take even the little we have from us
>>60069892
Well Rastislav was Moravian so the Czech can claim him just as you do
>>60069945
Moravian indeed, but his actual name was Rastic, so its confirmed he was slovak. Because all other slavs used at the time (probably still) word Rost for grow only slovaks used Rast
>>60069984
>Rastic
That's probably how you call him
>so its confirmed he was slovak
lel there were no Slovaks at the time. Only Moravian and Pannonian Slavs later giving birth to Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes and partially Croats.
>Because all other slavs used at the time (probably still) word Rost for grow only slovaks used Rast
no, we say rast- rasti "to grow" so do the Serbs
>>60069945
I'm Moravian and I feel insulted by Slovaks stealing our history REEEEEEE
>>60070219
No, we call him Rastislav, Rastic is his historical name written in texts. There were Slovaks as soon as Principality of Nitra existed, they were all moravians but there was already difference between western and eastern ones
I meant neighbourging slavs, his name was either slovak or slovenian, but given he lived at Devín in modern Slovakia its safe to assume he wasnt slovenian.
>>60070455
we share history you fucktard open a fucking book
>>60070555
>we conquer you
>Hungarians come and conquer you from us
>1000 years later we take you away from Hungary
>then you act butthurt and leave
>we share history you fucktard open a fucking book
>>60070555
>but given he lived at Devín
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duino
Rastislav confirmed for Slovene, case closed
>>60070686
you are literally clueless im not even gonna bother arguing with you, you dont even get the concept that modern slovaks are just division of moravian tribe
>>60070733
kek
Buďte ljudmi, prijateli
>>60067736
>we are slavic
nIce meme
>>60070940
>Be human, friends.
Prosim?
>>60051014
in Croatian you dont write everything exactly as you pronounce it though, like foreign words and names
for example Child Soldiers International is not Čajld Soldžers Internešenel, thats how Serbs write it
>>60072691
How is it in Croat then?
>>60072774
Croatian (and Serbian) is largely phonetical. The language favours writing things phonetically vs preserving the origins of the word.
"iza" in Croatian is "из-зa" in Russian. In the Russian version you can tell that the origin of the word is literally two prepositions joined together. In Croatian you can't see that.
There's a benefit to writing like this, however, and that is that it becomes a lot easier to learn how to read and write.
>>60072774
if an official translation doesnt exist than its literally Child Soldiers Interational
and depending on the case you just add or dont add an extention
Nominativ (nothing)
Genitiv -a
Dativ -u
Akuzativ -a
Vokativ (nothing)
Lokativ -u
Instrumental -om
>>60073092
also if an official translation doesnt exist and you have to write it like i said,
then you also pronounce it in the original language of the name rather than phoneticizing it
so you would literally pronounce Child Soldiers International in English if a translation doesnt exist.
Unlike for example United Nations (Ujedinjeni Narodi) or European Union (Europska Unija), alot of foreign organizations dont have translations for various reasons so this is usually what you do
>>60073069
cool. what's the difference between iza and zbog?
>>60073627
iza exclusively means "behind". zbog means "because of".
Stojim iza njega - I'm standing behind him
Izgubio sam sto eura zbog njega - I lost one hundred euro because of him
>>60072691
>Čajld Soldžers Internešenel, thats how Serbs write it
lol no, we would translate it, since Child Soldiers International contains only common nouns. We only write proper nouns phonetically, like Charles (Čarls).
>>60073763
Can't you just say za mnom/njegom(?)?
>>60073092
"Child Soldiers Interationala"?
>>60073840
That would mean "to follow him/her"
>>60073840
You can in some cases.
Sjedam za stolom - I'm sitting by the table
"za (+accusative)" can also mean "for" (для) in Croatian/Serbian.
>>60073944
sjedim*
>failing to spell a word 3 times in a row
wew
Why do Russian say "Лyжичкий" instead of "Copбcкий"?
>>60073926
interesting
>>60073944
Just like in Russian. And I actually knew that.I found that out when I was trying to translate Serbia for Serbians from this song to interslavic))
https://youtu.be/ayB5qOfX-RM?t=1m55s
>>60073069
>>60073763
It's izza in Slovene, too. It means "from behind", though. Behind is "za" (which can also mean for).
