Discuss urban developement, design, planning, urbanization, growth and future of cities, urban life style etc. All discussions about architecture, it's impact on daily life, trends(both historical and contemporary), new projects and anything related to architecture in general, are welcomed here aswell.
Post pics of cities, urban areas, buildings, physical structures, infrastructure also construction sites and renders. Comment and rate.
/balt/
HOW DO WESTERNERS EVEN COMPETE
>mfw not living in Deutschland
The Singer Tower
The GE building
>>59924546
The Ansonia Hotel
>>59924710
That's BIG.
The Kheel Tower
Hamburg
>>59925103
MURRICA
>mfw it's actually happening
>Sweden is slowly growing larger while Norway is stuck in the past
WRYYY
>>59925424
>>59925697
Barcode in itself is pretty much done now, and there's only one high-rise left to be built in the area as a whole, seen at the edge here.
Starts construction later this year, but after that's done, nothing for God knows how long.
>>59926082
low density and population doesn't justify building skyscrapers
>>59927066
Maybe they should take in more immigrants? :D
>>59927132
yes thats the solution
>be germany
>have low pop growth rate
>see the UK and France potentially can outgrow them
>take in gorillion refugees in order to maintain the domination over Europe
>>59927066
Unfortunately Oslo isn't low on population density.
Overall the city has a density of 1,400/km2, but taking into account that 2⁄3 of the city is just forest, parks and lakes (which is all protected land btw), the real density would equal 5221,6/km2.
It's constantly growing, and trapped by its nature with nowhere to expand.
>>59927377
>Unfortunately Oslo isn't low on population density
but it's still a relatively small city and a small economy
building a lot of highrises there simply isn't sustainable
>>59927484
It's the country's capital and economic powerhouse with an urban area of almost 1 million.
Taking this into account with the density factor, I think it would be very sustainable. Problem is that you're only legally allowed to build up to 42m in the city, and anything above takes making a deal with the devil to get approved.
Sao Paulo
>>59927685
>It's the country's capital and economic powerhouse with an urban area of almost 1 million.
almost no "almost 1 million" city has any significant skyscrapers desu
>>59928283
the blandest megalopolis on earth?
Prince charles' new village: poundbury
>>59928554
bringing british back into britain
some qt english town
>>59928049
Rotterdam has a marginally larger urban, and you see how that looks. City itself is even smaller than Oslo. In population within city boundaries, Frankfurt, Lyon, and Manchester are all comparable to Oslo, and yet are of larger scale despite not even being the capitals of their respective countries (which is a title that makes a city all the more important).
Then you have European capital cities that are smaller than Oslo, such as Vilnius and Tallinn, which have small, but proper clusters. Riga too has overall quite a few towers. Helsinki is currently building towers.
And this is just in Europe alone. Bringing in comparable cities outside such as Seattle or Quebec is just painful.
>>59928374
Yes but I'm still a boo for it for some reason. I guess I just like the grit.
t bh all the architecture past art deco and until neo-futurism is trash tier
>>59928741
neo traditionalism is so hot right now
>>59928733
Actually, even Vancouver is smaller.
JUST
>>59928801
nequarter in sweden
>>59928982
new quarter*
more poundbury
>>59928733
>Rotterdam has a marginally larger urban, and you see how that looks.
Rotterdam has a pop density of 2900/km2 and it's a largest port in Europe
>Frankfurt
2900/km2 pop density and 2mln+ urban population also a financial centre of continental Europe
>Lyon
does it even have skyscrapers lol
>Manchester
pretty much non skyline aswell
>Vilnius
literally 0 skyscrapers proper
>Tallinn
??
>Riga
???
>Seattle
pop density 3000+/km2 urban population of 3mln+ also fucking Boeing, Microsoft and Amazon among the others
>Quebec
what is this
>>59928738
>sao paulo boo
but well I'm a Dubaiboo and rank it as 1-3 best skyline in the world when the others rank it trash
>>59928917
density 5000+/km2 urban population 2mln+
>>59929232
SP doesn't even make the top ten for skylines but I still like the concrete jungle vibe it gives off. As for Dubai I've always been more of a Doha fan. Dubai is nice though.
>>59929060
>>59929113
>>59928801
I don't want to be rude but are these pics for ants?
>>59929359
>SP doesn't even make the top ten for skylines
it doesn't even make the top twenty, it doesn't make anywhere
but yeah it's a real concrete jungle
>>59929374
Sorry m8. if you do an imagensearch i think there are higher res somewhere.
Here, have a palace instead
>>59929505
looks kind of "russian" like these palaces in st petersburg
>>59929485
whoa that city is urban hell. It has abaolutely no pilot plan, you just get random high rises every fucking where. same with all brazilian cities, except rio's historic center, i guess .Were it not historical, qould be destroyed and taken over by dumbass high rises very fast.
>>59929485
South American cities don't ever have any defining buildings that make a skyline. Santiago might have a chance if they keep building buildings like torre Santiago. Hopefully SP and Buenos Aires will actually build more of a cluster of tall modern buildings. BA I think is actually trying.
>>59929643
holy shit Brazil is a hellhole isn't it
>>59929123
>Rotterdam has a pop density of 2900/km2
vs 5222/km2. But it being the largest port in Europe is fair game.
>2900/km2 pop density
See above.
>pretty much non skyline aswell
No, but it still has 4 towers over 100 meters, one over 150.
>literally 0 skyscrapers proper
They have a tower of 129m, and a decent build-up of smaller ones around.
>??
Tallinn has 3 towers over 100m, and a small cluster around those.
>???
Riga has 3 towers over 100m, and a few under construction.
>pop density 3000+/km2 urban population of 3mln+
Still lower density than Oslo, though of course important.
>what is this
Well, it has something of a skyline. Much more than Oslo ever had.
I still hold my stance that a regionally important city, capital and largest city of a major oil economy, with a pop. density of over 5000 and nowhere to expand, should be allowed more than two towers of over 100m. Never mind the huge gap from that to third tallest building, which is 67m.
>>59928049
What counts as a significant skyscraper? 150+ m?
>tfw Amsterdam got cucked by Schiphol and can't build anything higher than 80 m now
Luckily there are still some 100+ m projects in development
>>59929485
What do you actually define as a skyline, if that there isn't? It's a fuck-ton of tall buildings creating a definite urban horizon. Never mind it being far from pretty, but why is it not a proper skyline?
>>59929893
>That's Japan town
I g-guess it's somewhat clean by hue standards
>>59929801
>vs 5222/km2
hahahaha nope Oslo is 1400/km2
anynway isn't Barcode better than all these shits like Vilnus, Riga or Tallinn
>>59929687
yes. Don't worry though, it's not simple lack of planning.
If it is like my city, sp's problem is simple corruption. building's height will never be restricted because labd developers will never allow it.
There is a guy here who develops euro style apartments, but even he is giving up to towers because they're just so much more profitable.
Pic related is two mins feom my house. It's full muh heritage but it's better than shit towers
>>59930107
alao sorry for potato quality, have a french statue and aome mansard roofs
>>59929924
>What counts as a significant skyscraper? 150+ m?
150m is a skyscraper proper but people in Europe call skyscrapers all the highrises lol
>>59929979
any city technically has a "skyline"
but usually when you talk about skylines(like we are doing here) you mean skyscrapers making up for a easily distinguishable silhouette
pic rel is le "proper" skyline
there isn't ONE residential high rise that has the right to exist
>>59930435
and where do you put all these people?
>>59930049
>hahahaha nope Oslo is 1400/km2
Jesus Christ m8, do you even read my posts.
https://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oslo
>Oslo er kjent for sin topografiske særegenhet, og sin berggrunn. Byen preges av nærhet til skog og mark, og av et rikt plante- og dyreliv. 2⁄3 av kommunens areal utgjores av skog og vannområder utenfor selve bybebyggelsen, noe som gir en reell befolkningstetthet på 5221,6 innbyggere pr. km2.
Just paste that into Google translate. And look at my pic from 16 years ago while you're at it, from a time when Oslo's urban area was 763,957 vs the current 942,084.
>anynway isn't Barcode better than all these shits
It's a small wall, that while it sure looks nice, doesn't give a proper skyline impact.
>>59930583
dude you can go and cherrypick the dense are like this in every single fucking city
Warsaw has a density of 6k+ if I cherrypick the central districts
>>59930568
lots of mid rises
>>59931000
and where do you fit these midrises for 10 million people?
>>59930860
Thing with Warsaw is that the city boundaries aren't 66% uninhabited natural fauna. What there is of Oslo that makes the city, where people live, where all the buildings are, that's what's key. That's what's important. That's what makes the real difference. It can't expand, and that dense city, not the forest around it, is scheduled to grow to 850,000 by 2030.
>>59931105
66% of the city is uninhabited?
how's that even possible?
also Warsaw has a fuckton of forests, but not 66%
>>59931043
Seoul residential areas look like shit. Jap cities do it far better.
>>59931315
well they do though a lot of japanese buildings look bland aswell
>>59931043
Kek, have you ever actually been to Seoul? That city consists of 90% so called "Villas", 3~4 story tiny apartment buildings.
Pic very much related.
>>59931310
Because the municipality borders (which is what Wikipedia uses to do a simple calculation) =/= actual city, which is what I've been presenting so far
Basically, Oslo just has a lot of unused clay. Clay that can't be used, because it's protected. This city is cockblocked by its surrounding nature.
>>59931043
fine, some low talls are allowed. but only for japan ok?
>>59931731
not really 90% though
>>59931786
that was Korea
>>59931986
like look pic rel
>Copenhagen has a density of 6.8k/km2
wtf don't tell me scandinavian cities are actually dense
new project in Budapest
>>59932452
location today
By 2020
Also note this is pretty big deal relatively, in most parts of the city theres a 45m height limit, in some outern districts 65m, while 80-120m towers are planned here
>>59932452
modernism/10
also v4 when
>>59932070
Gangnam and Seocho aren't really representative of the rest of the city. And even those are filled with villas. Take a look at the city on google maps and you'll see what I mean.
Not trying to bash the city, I loved it there, but it really isn't comparable to Hong Kong or Singapore and the likes of them in any way.
>>59932355
Well, Copenhagen is flat, barren and in the tiniest country. It's not hard to achieve with those criteria.
>>59933463
is it really 90% "villas"? isn't there like a fuckton of commies too?
HOW DO WESTERNERS EVEN
>>59933792
COMPETE
>tfw no stupid eurocentrists itt to trigger with le feng shui
>>59928554
needs more greenery desu
>>59934182
I remember the times when it was posted everytim in /urban/
ded?
>>59933708
I pulled the 90% out of my ass, so I wouldn't know. I'm pretty sure it's the majority though.
>you'll never live in a comfy ASEAN city
>>59934772
>living in poverty jungle
>>59934772
>you'll never wake up every morning to see this
>>59934772
>>59934852
>burma
Kompis...
>you'll never live in a japanese video game
>>59934817
>implying ASEAN isn't A BEST
s.m.h.
>>59934772
haha I live 2km away from this pagoda
>>59934927
RARE
A
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>>59934900
>>59934927
aren't you from Taiwan
>>59934910
implying CHINA WILL GROW LARGER isn't the best
also really nice pic of Jakarta saved
>>59934927
RARE
A
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WHAT THE FUCK ISN'T THAT TAIWAN
![1024px-Flag_of_Myanmar.svg[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/RvzvSUl.png "1024px-Flag_of_Myanmar.svg[1].png")
isn't this the current flag of Myanmar?
why does 4chan use this one >>59934927
>>59935236
because nobody gives a shit xd
>>59935275
why did you change the flag
the new one looks african
>>59934927
Do you live in a nice apartment?
>>59935503
They should have stuck with this one 2bh
>>59936128
still looks like africa
Continuing nyc dump from yesterday.
>>59936423
More like Lithuania with
>A FUCKING PEACOCK
View of my house.
Out of place as fuck, not even sure what it's used for. Might be a left over armory.
>>59936987
w edon't have things like this in poland
>>59937299
more like *from my house
anyway where is it?
>>59937299
>View of my house.
y-you live in a tree?
>>59937312
That's just the japanese section of the botanical garden.
Brooklyn college.
>>59937351
Ulsan.comfy city. But gets boring down here.
>>59937554
do you live in a commieblock?
>>59937554
also atleast it's a 1 mil city and not some shit village or small town
also
>In 2012, Ulsan had a GDP per capita of $79,623
what the
>>59935810
these buildings are in downtown Rangoon, they're pretty shit.
I live in a 20 year old apartment building, it's starting to fall apart, but I can't really complain. I have an a/c unit, clean water, pretty okay internet, and the people are very friendly. This is about as good as it gets tbqh
One of my favorites from Brooklyn.
>>59937850
There's something cozy about how they look, but I guess living in them is a different story.
Churches, churches everywhere.
>>59937949
>tfw I live close to the original Brooklyn
I still find it funny how it's named after a completely irrelevant quaint Dutch town
>>59938428
They have a cool castle though, which houses one of the few private universities in the country
>>59937794
Hard to believe this city used to be a rice paddy and willowfield.
>In 2012, Ulsan had a GDP per capita of $79,623
Definitely that dosen't apply to me.
>>59938428
It must have left an impression on someone. Brooklyn was close to becoming the biggest city in the US before it was swallowed up by Manhattan; 2.5 million current residents I think.
>we heard you talkin shit goyim
>>59938850
Isn't that where Hyundai is based?
Also the region in the Netherlands with the highest GDP per capita also happens to be the poorest in terms of actual income, so there's that.
>>59938960
Yeah right.But Hyundai is collapsing due to the growth of chinese economy. I don't care, though.
>>59939707
Do you take these yourself? How do you even keep them in the same folder under a single filename?
>>59939956
I didn't, I just save them. They're all on my phone, that's why they're all image.jpg.
Last one from me.
>>59939489
>But Hyundai is collapsing due to the growth of chinese economy.
??
>>59940301
Thanks for the ride
>>59937299
>2016
>living in trees
my love
>>59940345
No problem lad.
https://youtu.be/FgVBOswfdAQ
What city would you move to if you had a chance?
>>59940938
No question
>>59941367
>no internet
>general poverty
>be send to gulag for anything
>>59941464
Fuck off, commie
Don't EVER dare insult the true motherland near me again
>>59939492
Where's this? Nice tunnel
>>59941883
Fuck, Pyongyang is so fucking beautiful
Just looking at it brings me tears of joy, giving me hope for a brighter feature, saving me from this crippling depression that for so long has haunted me, eaten my soul, fed on the living carcass I am
BLESS OUR INFINITE SAVIOR KIM IL-SUNG (PBUH)
>>59941927
Brooklyn.
>>59942121
HNNNNNNG
>>59942121
Seoul>shit>Pyongyang
>>59942683
BACK THE FUCK OFF?!?
>>59942181
is it OC?
HOW DO SOUTH (AKA SHIT) KOREANS EVEN COMPETE?
That smug faces always makes me jumpy.
>>59942953
Nah got it off of skyscrapercity.
>>59943099
rekt
>>59943099
truly a sight to behold
>>59943099
When we occupy that building, we will frag that eyesore all.
ponyyong looks like 60s 70s moscow to be fair
>>59943197
>a few tiny boxes of matches with roofs are somehow more impressive than THIS
LMAO'ING @ UR CUNT
>>59943651
whoa, I'm a #nuclearmissile now
This is a REAL palace, southern peasants
>>59943651
desu is that buildig historical or just built by commies?
>>59943361
Moscow will NEVER EVER be this clean and comfy
ALL HAIL THE DPRK
>>59943914
oh yeah built by commies
shit tier
mark my words, SK will annex NK in next 10 years max
>>59944017
>SK will annex NK in next 10 years max
for what?
>>59943957
>>59944017
Fucking kys you uninformed third worlder. It was built by Jesus himself (who was Korean btw) in the holy capital of Pyongyang after the fall of Gojoseon in BCE 101 to bring life back into the Korean spirit.
BESIDES, do southernpoors even have the tombs of KANGZ themselves in their capital? No?
Check fucking mate, atheists.
>>59944271
HNNNG, THESE DETAILS
THE SHEER BEAUTY
SOUTHERNSHITS BTFO
>>59944243
for money
>>59944271
do the norks have the royal palace?
>>59944448
>royal palaces
>in the year of our lord (Kim Il-Sung) 2k16
Fucking South Koniggers clinging to the past. Grow up you manchild nation, we SUPREME LEADER now. That's the future, hear hear.
And speaking of the future,
HOW DO SOUTH POOREANS EVEN COMPETE
>DPRK Fact
Bets Korea's public transportation is infinitely better than American puppet "Korea".
The DPRK leads the world in religious freedom.
Pyongyang is well known for its comfiness.
Colorful Scientists Street.
>>59944932
THIS
It's so disgraceful that these """"""Koreans"""""" dare to even go by the same name of the Gods to the north.
>>59945003
ESPECIALLY THIS
>>59945096
Yes. They aren't even really Koreans. They are plastic people who have been mind raped by American imperialism.
ignore the commie propaganda bots
>>59945152
can you post some pictures of yourself now :3
>>59945187
no why
>>59945143
Finally someone with sense in this thread.
May the eternal spirits of Kim Il-Sung and his Holy son Kim Jong-Il forever be with you.
>>59945152
>Southernboo mad because the country he obsesses over is being absolutely BTFO by their northern superiors
LMOA
>>59945253
the only reason for NK existence is that SK can't really conquer it without taking some minor damage to Seoul
Eternal coziness under the grace of the Great Marshall.
>>59945152
Go suck American vassal state dick somewhere else!
>>59945316
>complete and total nuclear annihilation
>minor damage
Kek southdrones really are delusional
>>59945328
go being poor commie somewhere else
>>59945376
HAHAHAHAHAHAH IMPLYING NK IS EVEN CAPABLE OF LAUNCHING NUCLEAR MISSILES
>>59945245
please post
>>59945316
>he unironically believes this
Oh how nice it must feel to be so utterly DELUDED
based
DPRK
P
R
K
will soon put those designated poowine drinkers in their place
RECONQUISTA OF THE SOUTH IMMINENT
Bowling alley built under the Marshall. Best Koreans are known for their leisure lifestyles.
>>59945378
>best Korea
>poor
Not even. See pic.
>>59945417
You'll be surprised when they wipe your hell scape of the planet.
>>59945438
no
have some Choa instead
>>59945588
shit tier ngl
>>59945555
>posting something that's more plastic than human
>ever
They should start coming with warning labels for being choking hazards not suitable for manchildren over 13 years.
>>59945701
This is what REAL women look like, you shitlords
>>59945701
>Choa
>not a goddess
norks mad
>>59945656
Don't insult it. It's extensive and beautiful. Souless southshits can't compare.
>>59945745
Ugh. Ought to be thrown in the recycling bin ASAP, if you ask me.
But what do you infidels know about true beauty
DEMOCRACY IS TRUTH
COMMUNISM IS DEATH
>>59945762
i can smell poverty
>>59945776
you can be thrown in the bin
Choa is a literal perfection, I refuse to believe she is human
>>59945796
The DPRK has no poverty.
>>59945866
nice cracked road
>>59945820
You're right, she isn't human. She's one of those cheap figures you get at mickey d's with a happy meal.
>>59945829
yean
its now illegal to have no job in belarus too, and if you have no job, you have to pay some money to the state
>>59945885
We'll see who's roads are cracked when every square inch of Seoul is obliterated.
>>59945918
Don't compare some random old SSR to true Korea.
>you'll NEVER have a pure qt 3.1415926 North Korean gf
CRAWLING IN MY SKIN
>>59946135
It's better not to defile them with inferior genetics.
>>59946184
Maybe, just maybe if I sudoku, I'll reborn as a pure North Korean God myself.
But my spirit is likely tainted beyond salvation. All I can do is pray to Kim Il-Sung (Peace Be Upon Him), and worship the true land of the free, despite knowing I'll never be part of it.
>>59946328
Iktf. The pain is real.
don't you people already live in communism in urop?
