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>tfw Hittite master race
feels fucking good man
>>59899167
>yfw all the good looking Turks have Euro genes from all the rape and pillaging during the multiple Christian Crusades
>actual Turks who aren't rape babies look like roaches
>>59899167
have you finally find something to be proud of being turkish?
oh wait
>hittie
I guess not
>>59899167
Yeah, sure and I'm Venetian.
>>59899277
>what are native anatolians
Hittites were actually "Indo-European".
Are you bru? I don't think so. So please stop your "muh heritage".
>>59899345
Not Turks
>>59899338
san georgianos rosopontios den einai aftos sto OP to tourkou?
>>59899385
I am from the capital of Hittite empire. are you bru?
yeah, didn't think so
>>59899385
he mostly is . im pretty sure the turks who post here arent some lower class uzbeks
>>59899429
Then what are turks?
whats with all the turk shitposters
>>59899512
>>59899506
kinda feel bad for you guys, you do seem to hate being turkish, you're literally grab on anything just something that proves you're not turkish, like if some Greek has taken a shit in one of your deserts years ago you'd probably want to associate yourselves with that turd he left. It's pretty odd.
>>59899277
>/pol/ science and history in a nutshell
>>59899512
>uzbeks
What's that?
>>59899612
>being jealous of my royalty blood
>>59899612
>you're literally grab on anything just something that proves you're not turkish
Didn't you just describe your own people though?
>>59899612
not turk (again) and im pretty sure turkey doesnt have deserts . we do tho
>>59899632
turkic /iranic /mongloid people
>>59899612
>being jealous of Turks
Don't you have denbts to pay :^)
>>59899277
>leaf can into history
>>59899167
>hitite
i want this meme to die
>>59899612
>greeks in charge of not being butthurt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3WtmD_VV3g
:3
>>59899612
10/10
>>59899906
>>59899612
>>59899728
>turkic /iranic /mongloid people
They actualy exists
>tfw no hittie blood
>tfw have chink like eyes and yellowish skin
>tfw I'm probably a mongol turk
>>59899987
WUZ
>>59899962
>mfw Turkey will never join Germany as a ally again
JUST
>>59899962
>chink like eyes and yellowish skin
Calm down, you're the future sex-symbol, bru
>>59899719
>>59899728
>>59899774
>>59899797
>>59899906
>>59899948
guys guys, calm down, all I was making was a small remark, no need to start up a fight.
>>59899439
To asteio einai oti prin dw to reply sou skeftomoun oti moiazei me ena gnwsto mou rwsopontio stin mouri.
>>59899277
The Euro Gene come from Hittities, Luwian and Greeks, that is, Indo-Europeans that settle permanently, not just some ffuckers who raped.
>can we wuz hittites
>can we wuz ottomemes
>can we wuz steppe niggers
>can we wuz ancient greece
>can we wuz romans
Is there a greater feeling then being a Turk? Do others get jealous of our history spanning thousands of years of civilization?
>>59901580
Thousands of years of civilization your parents loved so much, they moved to another country.
>>59899506
>living in çorum and being proud of it
hahahahhahahahahahahahgahahahagagagagagagahahhahagagaggaga literal çomar hhahahahahhha
>>59899612
You subhuman tard, Hittities are part of their history, as well as Luwians, Assyrians and Greeks, now kys.
>>59901698
Temporary economic setbacks are nothing to be ashamed of. Many great nations in history had them once in a while.
>>59901837
Greeks never settled here though , it was Ionians and Pontics which both are Anatolian
>>59901698
kek, turks are the mexicans of europe
>mongol roleplay memes will end in your lifetime
feels good
>>59902011
>turks
>Europe
Beaner logic
>>59901698
ouch , you got me to it
>>59902177
But it's tru
>>59902011
Comparing Turks who have ruled over millions of Europeans to Mexicans who got rekt and enslaved by a handful of Europeans is insulting indeed. Don't flatter yourself. You're not on the same league.
>>59899167
>Be Turk
>Invented farming and animal husbandry
>Created the first big stable settlements/proto-cities
>You descend from Assyrians, who settled in Eastern Turkey building cities, some of them were so big and advanced that in one of them over 20,000 written tablets were found, we're talking 2000 bc, 2000 fucking bc guys, in those tablets women rights were inscribed, back IN 2,000 BEFORE CHRIST, WOMEN RIGHTS, GUYS!
>Your descend from the Hittities, who created one of the first empires on earth, whose military was the strongest of the time, who fought with the ancient Egyptians at the height of their power, defeating them and writing the first peace treaty in history, fighting one of the biggest wars in ancient history
>You descend from the Luwians, who created the fable city of Troy, which insired the greatest and most well poem in the history of the Western world
>You descend from the Myceneans, who were rich, wealthy and literate ancient people who were the ancestors of the Classic era Greeks
>You descend from the Classic era Greeks too, you discend from the first philosophers in the history of mankind, like Tales and Anaximander of Miles, in Turkey, your ancestors created the Western world and all its main values
>You descend from the Ottoman Turks, who created the biggest empire of the early modern era and subdued almost all the middle east and a good portion of Eastern Europe.
>Some retarded Euroshit/American bashes you for even mentioning your glorious ancestors and you are compared to an insect, a "cockroach" by a dumb anglo savage
>>59902208
t.Francois Mahmoud
>>59902241
>hittites
>real
their meme symbols are being used by snack companies lmao literally clowns
>>59902241
>Assyrians are turks
I swear to God this thread is full with crypto turks
>>59902210
Turkey is actually poorer and more underdeveloped than Mexico, it's a pretty interesting comparison.
Nice job Op
Regards, Hittie anon who burned tens of thousands of turanist asses
>>59902415
If you include the Kurdish areas sure. Still you're only lying to yourself.
>>59902275
>Francois Mahmoud
De la boustifaille du château caviar, please.
>>59902370
t. headshot rojad
>>59902241
our people need to drop islam, learn all of their heritages instead of only göktürks etc and start teaching people about it. else even nordics will 0 history will keep memeing.
>>59902388
>he isn't a crypto turk
>>59902445
so there is an actual turanist vs hittie debate over there?
>>59902370
What a retarded little fuck you are...
Kurd fucktard
>>59902388
Mmmmm
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%BCltepe
http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/4000-year-old-tablets-found-in-turkey-include-womens-rights.aspx?pageID=238&nID=85528&NewsCatID=375
“From women’s rights to the adoption of children and marriages arranged at birth, the tablets include all kinds of civilizational and social data from Anatolia 4,000 years ago. There is also an emotional letter from a woman to her husband and a letter from another woman who complains about her mother-in-law. You can’t find such things in an empire’s official archive,” he said.
Still, most of the 23,500 cuneiform tablets unearthed at Kültepe were about commerce. “Kültepe is where the Anatolian enlightenment began. The people in this area were literate much earlier than other places in Anatolia, including its west,” Kulakoğlu added.
Some 90 percent of the Kültepe tablets can be seen in the Museum of Anatolian Civilizations in Ankara. Some of them are exhibited at the site and are expected to be transferred soon to a new archaeology museum under construction in Kayseri, deemed to be the most important museum of the historic Cappadocia region.
“This is a huge wealth,” Kulakoğlu said, voicing his hope that the trade colony will soon be included in the UNESCO World Heritage List.
Over 23,000 FUCKING tablets, do you realize how much of a big deal this city was?
>>59902465
How am I lying to myself? They are the ones fleeing to your country so they can come here and tell us how great Turkey is after all.
>>59902503
both are equally autistic
t. georgian
>>59902503
It's an old /tr/ meme
>>59902514
please tell me you're not a Turk, or at least that you're using an Italian proxy.
>>59899167
Lovely nose, he reminds me of my ex ( ;.;)
>>59902483
>>59902514
>not liking swarthy good for nothing hittites means you're a k*rd
lmaoing at your attempts
>>59902503
We used to have actual debates 2-3 months ago. It was epic
Eventually all turanists left because they could not handle banter, their leader the alamancı (cringe anon) lost his last remaining brain cells and now he's shitposting about space, aliens and turan
>>59902596
I am Italian, born and lived in Italy all my life.
>>59902610
t. ancient egypt idf
>>59902562
>>59902634
>It's an old /tr/ meme
Im pretty sure there are meme pics regarding this post some if you dont mind
>>59902610
>Swarthy
Coming from a Georgian cave dweller this is hexalirating
>>59902634
>implying he is not im greek poster
>>59902679
posting ugly anatolians, posting ugly turanists, fat people, posting almancıs etc were "memes". there were some good ones but all of them were turkish. "tr" memes are words instead of pics because people are lazy and useless as fuck
>>59902679
I only lurk /tr/ for the qts tbqh
>>59899429
but they are
>>59902641
fuckin' Christ, then what the hell is wrong with you?
I mean real Italian, not some stinky albanian that pretends to be Italian, or some 2nd generation kebab immigrant.
>>59902172
Who J2a master race here?
>>59902514
Assyrians are SEMITICS SEMETICS YOU RETARDED INBRED NONGOLIAN AND A PART OF THEIR LAND LATER WAS OCCUPIED BY TURKS
it is like if a white American claims red indian heritage
>>59899167
Nice try, cockroach.
>>59902800
>tfw no t*rkish qt gf to make me kunefe
>>59902644
>ben boktenli bir hititim hiç bir sikime yaramam ama her gün ne kadar üstün olduğumu ima etmesini bilirim lütfen anamı kafasını betonlara sürte sürte sikin
>>59902691
>georgian cave dweller
DO NOT EVER TALK TO ME LIKE THAT AGAIN!
>>59902839
The fuck is wrong with YOU?
And yes, I'm Italian, my ancestors have lived in Italy long before its foundation as a nation.
>>59902839
>knowing about the history of some land makes you an immigrant from there
stop beig jealous of our superiour history seajew
>>59902918
God, you are a retarded fuck, aren't you?
Genetically the inhabitants of MODERN DAY TURKEY, descend from them too and they're closer genetically to them thank fucking STEPPE MONGOLIANS, hence why MODERN DAY TURKS, look more like a mix of Near Eastern/Southern Euros than fucking Ching Chongs, now kys, fucktard.
Oh yeah but I guess Mexicans who have 99% Native ancestry are Spaniards because they speak Spanish according to your """logic""".
>>59902972
I hear you brother. The closest I will ever come to having a turkish gf is through some fat autists qt facebook friends
Been lurking on /tr/ for nearly four years now
Daily reminder that a dirty turk ITT tried to claim Semitic heritage
>>59899719
nice gyno
>>59903022
MAMA MIA PIZZERIA PUTANA
>>59903122
I am not a Turk you fucktard, I just happen to have a decent knowledge of ancient history, something you lack deeply.
This knowledge allows ME to know that during the early bronze age Assyrians settleted en mass in Eastern Turkey for its ore deposits, creating what were extremely big cities for the time with a high percentage of litteracy, this of course had an effect on the genetics of MODERN DAY turks, even if it didn't (it did) they'd still be closer to them genetically than to fucking steppe mongolians who only had a military and linguistic hegemony, the average Turkish man is a normal Caucasian man with really low East asian admixture (4-6%) comparable to that of the Fins and some Russian, so barely even noticeable..
>>59903092
>Genetically the inhabitants of MODERN DAY TURKEY, descend from them too and they're closer genetically to them thank fucking STEPPE MONGOLIAn
What is Assyrian genocide?
What is Syrian and Iraq who their people are genetically waaaay more closer to Assyrians than dirty turks?
You know what?
What about modern day Assyrians?
>>59902839
Is there a real difference? They're both lazy, dumb, loud, politically retarded, etc.
>>59903378
>What is Assyrian genocide?
I'm talking about 2000-1500 bc you utter foolish fucktard, those populations had already mixed with the locals and the Hittities for over 3,000 years by the time that happened
>What about modern day Assyrians?
What about them? they of course have Assyrian ancestry as well as Hurrian, Phoenician and Arab heritage, never denied any fo that you fucktard.
>>59903488
>an american calls anyone "politically retarded"
kek
>>59903488
>Le banter meme
We all know you're a manchild don't need to ruin a proper discussion I'm having.
>>59903378
I might agree that turks are closer to Greeks more than they are to steppe mongols but they are not closer to Assyrians more than the people of Syria and Iraq for example
>>59903589
>but they are not closer to Assyrians more than the people of Syria and Iraq for example
I never said they were for fuck sake, you have 0 reading comprehension.
>>59903589
When did this meme that we are genetically close to Turks start? I fail to remember.
>>59903659
From the close geographical proximities, From the fact that you shared much of your history, from the fact that Europeans and Near Easterns are genetically close together and certainly closer together than Near Easterners and Mongolian people.
>>59903735
No I mean what year, I remember in the beginning they were trying to meme us with all the Greek gay sex stuff, but once they saw that didn't work out, some Greek mentioned them that the biggest insult is telling a Greek that he's related to Turks, and it somehow that meme picked up, must have been around 2013.
Can you remember?
>>59903823
t. %100 hellenic fuccboi
>>59903914
I see you decided yo pick fuccboi as your new favorite word after butthurt. I think it's pretty cool that you're trying to emulate the western posters and all, but have some plurality in your expressions dear old (apparently lost ? ) brother.
>>59903526
>2000 B.C
A lot happened since then
The Assyrian DNA you are talking about is very very very small percentage
Also gonna need some proofs maybe some study on the genetics of the people of south turkey
>>59899167
>tfw part Arbëreshë
True Illyrian without a drop of Turkish blood reporting.
>>59904030
Only a complete retard would think that the people of South Eastern Turkey and the people of Syria aren't extremely related genetically, there was never some ivisible barrier who separated them.
>>59904027
calling you a fuccboi is not a new meme my greek friend.
its a few hundred years old from the times when greeks literally served as fuccbois for the ottomans :D
>>59904027
It comes from the fact that you border Turkey and that /int/ is generally anti muslim so all people from muslim countries are "sand niggers" and having to do anything with them is easily a source of banter from other countries.
>>59904140
I see
Time to reclaim all that lost clay
>>59904155
didn't say it was a meme though, I said it was a word, I just saw it being posted a lot of times lately by western posters, and now even though trailing behind them you decided to use it too.
I just don't think that means you should restrict yourself to only that word, I know you're trying to be cool and somehow miraculously impress us. But that ain't happening soon, so try expanding your vocabulary a bit, remember just because the white man uses it it doesn't mean you have to use it exclusively.
That's all really.
>>59904232
Sure, but we're genetic brothers with them, so as a brother I'm trying to teach my lost brother how to better himself and not being considered an uncivilized sandnigger, as you described.
>>59904303
If you don't reclaim Alsace-Lorraine, it's ok bro
>>59904403
no one wants your stupid ways here though
we're fine with what we have , the world does not concern us
>>59904467
yeah I can see that, you're pretty unconcerned to what the world thinks, that must be the reason you bypass your country's restriction on this site and decide to hack your way into here, breaking the law, risking years of your life in prison, so you can post along Western folks, because you simply don't care. I like your attitude, it's quite badass.
>>59904551
the whole reason I come to /int/ is dank /tr/ memes , this thread is also one that is spawned from one of those so I'm here
>>59904551
only 5k greeks left in turkey. we killed or deported all of you. as you can see we really love and care what our ex-slaves think about us.
changing dns is very basic thing and not punishable. also a necessity for porn sites.
>>59899385
Yes lol. Hittites were light hair, light eyes
Modern day Turks are Semitic
>>59904760
hepsini denedim ama bende xhamster hala çalışmıyor hocam motherless de sıktı biraz
>>59904833
>Yes lol. Hittites were light hair, light eyes
No, Egyptians depcited the as dark.
>>59904551
>risking years of your life in prison
kek
>>59904833
>Modern day Turks are Semitic
*cringes*
>>59904920
Proof? Because Hittites were Indo-Europeans, and all other Indo-Europeans are described as having yellow/red hair and blue eyes
>>59899612
excellent b8, recieved lots of (You)s. Bravo, komshi.
>>59904760
I don't really see how all that related to my post.
But hey don't tell me, I'm not the one that brought the whole "Greeks are related to Turks " argument on the table, it was the "Italian".
>>59904984
Turks are the offspring of Arabians
>>59905039
arabs partly ruled anatolia for 20 years. but that's all. it's 200 years for armenians 150 for cretans.
>>59904988
>Because Hittites were Indo-Europeans
And? you think they didn't mix with the locals?
Myceneans were indo.-europeans too but you cann see it in their paintings that they were brown haired and rather dark skinned, mixing happens pretty fast, the indo European minority might impose the cultural hegemony at first, but they also get quickly absorb by the local population, especially in the case of Greece and Anatolia that were densely inhabitated by farmer societies.
>>59899167
>you will never be a big burly man
>you will always look 15 and have a disproportional large penis (relative to body size)
>you will never "into" facial hair
This may sound like a dream come true to some of you sh0ta fags but it fucking sucks. No woman wants a cute boy.
>>59904988
>>59905168
Also it's not like the original Indo Europeans all had blonde hair and blue eyes, yeah a good portion of them had them but not all of them by any account.
>>59905168
Eh...no. Since the Indo-Europeans showed up into the Middle-East around 2000BC, and are still on the records until 200 AD.
>>59905263
the majority of them did
Why are you so butthurt about this?
>>59905269
>Eh...no. Since the Indo-Europeans showed up into the Middle-East around 2000BC, and are still on the records until 200 AD.
You do realize that Anatolia was already inhabited by pre-indo european people?
They didn't just disappear they were the majority and the indo europeans were quickly absorbed.
Italians are Indo Europeans too that doesn't mean they are all blonde haired and blue haired
>>59905302
Because you have problems understanding a simple concept, the Proto indo Europeans were a minority, they imposed themselves through their military strenght but of course in a few centuries they were absorbed genetically by the way more numerous Anatolian majority.
This is why Northen Indian despite being "Indo Europeans" are mostly brown.
The fact that they were Indo-European doesn't mean they were proto-indo europeans, why are you struggling with such an easy concept to understand?
>>59905302
No they didn't, the Yamnaya people (proto-Indo Europeans) didn't have blue eyes at all:
"The blue eyes of these people – and of the many modern Europeans who have them – are thanks to a specific mutation near a gene called OCA2. As none of the Yamnaya samples have this mutation, it seems likely that modern Europeans owe this trait to their ancestry from these European hunter gatherers of the Mesolithic (10,000-5,000 BC)."
>>59899167
>Hittite
>>59905516
>the Proto indo Europeans were a minority
Citation needed
>they imposed themselves through their military strenght
I know. They invented the chariot and introduced it to the Middle-East.
>course in a few centuries they were absorbed genetically by the way more numerous
They arrived around 1800BC and lasted until 400BC. more than a few centuries.
>This is why Northen Indian despite being "Indo Europeans" are mostly brown.
We're talking about ancient BC here.
>You do realize that Anatolia was already inhabited by pre-indo european people?
Yes
>and the indo europeans were quickly absorbed
Citation needed
>Italians are Indo Europeans
Lol.....We are talking about BC here
Trust me, I know more about this subject than you.
>>59905583
Le wikipedia warrior alert
Why only one people group?
>>59905793
>Citation needed
Anatolia already had cities and big settlements, the proto indo European were a nomadic population, you can see easily who was the majority, nomads or the farming societies?
>They arrived around 1800BC and lasted until 400BC. more than a few centuries.
And? they weren't nazis so it's not like they didn't mix with the local population, a considerable number of texts in pre-Indo Euopean Anatolians were found in Hittitie cities, the local population didn't disappear, neither did the Assyrian colonists who had already founded huge cities
>We're talking about ancient BC here.
And? pic related is how Myceneans depicted themselves in 1300 bc after having arrived only a few centuries before, the Myceneans were Indo Europeans like the hittities
>
>Trust me, I know more about this subject than you.
You really don't, fucktard.
>Why only one people group?
because they were the proto Indo Europeans and those who expanded towards Europe and the Near East, that was the core culture of the proto indo Europeans, but I thought you knew more than me on the subject, how come you don't even know such a basic thing?
Retard.
>>59906044
Forgot pic related
>>59906044
>because they were the proto Indo Europeans and those who expanded towards Europe and the Near East, that was the core culture of the proto indo Europeans, but I thought you knew more than me on the subject, how come you don't even know such a basic thing?
Would you like me to start copy/pasting Wikipedia links like you?
>>59906094
The only thing I copied from wikipedia was the page about an Assyrian colony, nothing regarding this subject, retard.
>>59906153
Why are you posting art like it means anything?
>In artworks, the Scythians are portrayed exhibiting Europoid traits.[73] In Histories, the 5th-century Greek historian Herodotus describes the Budini of Scythia as red-haired and grey-eyed.[73] In the 5th century BC, Greek physician Hippocrates argued that the Scythians have purron (ruddy) skin.[73][74] In the 3rd century BC, the Greek poet Callimachus described the Arismapes (Arimaspi) of Scythia as fair-haired.[73][75] The 2nd century BC Han Chinese envoy Zhang Qian described the Sai (Scythians) as having yellow (probably meaning hazel or green), and blue eyes.[73] In Natural History, the 1st century AD Roman author Pliny the Elder characterizes the Seres, sometimes identified as Iranians (Scythians) or Tocharians, as red-haired and blue-eyed.[73][76] In the late 2nd century AD, the Christian theologian Clement of Alexandria says that the Scythians are fair-haired.[73][77] The 2nd century Greek philosopher Polemon includes the Scythians among the northern peoples characterized by red hair and blue-grey eyes.[73] In the late 2nd or early 3rd century AD, the Greek physician Galen declares that Sarmatians, Scythians and other northern peoples have reddish hair.[73][78] The fourth-century Roman historian Ammianus Marcellinus wrote that the Alans, a people closely related to the Scythians, were tall, blond and light-eyed.[79] The 4th century bishop of Nyssa Gregory of Nyssa wrote that the Scythians were fair skinned and blond haired.[80] The 5th-century physician Adamantius, who often follow Polemon, describes the Scythians are fair-haired.[73][81] It is possible that the later physical descriptions by Adamantius and Gregory of Scythians refer to East Germanic tribes, as the latter were frequently referred to as "Scythians" in Roman sources at that time.
>>59906226
We're talking about Hittities, not Scythians, not really an argument
>>59906199
Because this art is clearly depicting people, not mythological creatures, so their looks are based on how Myceneans looked at the time.
>>59906262
>he Wusun (Chinese: 烏孫; pinyin: Wūsūn; Wade–Giles: Wū-sūn; literally: "grandchildren/descendents of the crow/raven") were an Indo-European semi-nomadic steppe people mentioned in Chinese records from the 2nd century BC and the 5th century AD.
>"Among the barbarians in the Western Regions, the look of the Wusun is the most unusual. The present barbarians who have green eyes and red hair, and look like macaque monkeys, are the offspring of this people.
We are talking about Indo-Europeans. I can do this all day.
>>59906317
This is how the Hittities were painted by the Egyptians
>>59906317
Those are not Indo-Europeans
>The Tocharians or Tokharians (/təˈkɛəriənz/ or /təˈkɑːriənz/) were Indo-European peoples who inhabited the medieval oasis city-states on the northern edge of the Tarim Basin (modern Xinjiang, China) in ancient times.
>The Tocharians were described as having full beards, red or blond hair, deep-set blue or green eyes and high noses[25] and with no sign of decline as attestation in the Chinese sources for the past 1,000 years.
>>59906332
Indo Europeans from 200 bc, not Proto Indo Europeans from 3200 bc or Hittities from 1300 bc.
>>59906402
>hey also informed us that the side of their island (Taprobane) which lies opposite to India is ten thousand stadia in length, and runs in a south-easterly direction—that beyond the Emodian Mountains (Himalayas) they look towards the Serve (Seres), whose acquaintance they had also made in the pursuits of commerce; that the father of Rachias (the ambassador) had frequently visited their country, and that the Seræ always came to meet them on their arrival. These people, they said, exceeded the ordinary human height, had flaxen hair, and blue eyes, and made an uncouth sort of noise by way of talking.
Fun fact: according to Hinduism, to be a perfect Brahaman is to have blonde hair and blue eyes
>>59906388
>Those are not Indo-Europeans
Yes they are, you fucktard, Myceneans are Indo-Europeans since they spoke an indo European language (Greek), their culture was Indo-European, and they settled in Greece around the same time that the Myceneans settled in Anatolia, each one of your posts reveals how you know nothing about this subject.
>>59906482
>and they settled in Greece around the same time that the Myceneans settled in Anatolia
Meant the Hittities
>>59906450
Let'see what actual science has to say:
http://archhadesdotblogspotdotit/2015/10/myth-of-light-pigmented-nordic-lookingdothtml
"So as it turns out, prehistoric North Pontic Steppe populations buried in Kurgan mounds are overwhelmingly dark pigmented (by modern Eurocentric standards). The populations of this area and time period are the most favored among linguists today to have been the speakers of the Proto Indo-European language (this hypothesis is known as the Kurgan hypothesis). See data below for details.
The table above represents frequencies found in ancient samples compared to modern Ukrainian ones. The dataset for the ancient sample is a combined pooling of both the Yamnaya culture and the succeeding Catacomb culture from the same area. Note the SNP rs12912832 [OCA2] in the HERC2 gene which predicts blue eyes is present in 65% of modern Ukrainians, but was only present in 16% of the ancient samples. Also note that the ancient samples have much lower frequencies in all three SNPs which predict light pigmentation including SNPs in the TYR gene which are associated with blondism."
>>59906380
HIGH TEST
>>59906621
"In graph A you'll see a timeline which consists of ancient samples all the way up to modern CEU (which represents White Americans from Utah who are mostly of Northwestern European origin). In graph B you'll see ancient samples represented as well, and you'll also see that the Yamnaya are represented in graph B. Graph C represents modern European populations. Notice the red bar which measures the frequency of light eye color pigmentation alles is extremely low in Yamnaya only scoring 11%, lower than modern Southern Europeans such as the Spanish and Italians (the Italian sample is from Tuscany). This means the Yamnaya, who were the likely speakers of middle Proto Indo-European were around 90% dark eyed. You'll also notice that the blue and green bars represent the presence of light skin color alles, and their frequency in Yamnaya is lower than modern Southern Europeans as well. The blue bar in Yamnaya is equal to modern Europeans, but the green bar is lower. The data is clearly pointing to the idea that most of the presence of blue eyes in Europe derives from pre Neolithic and pre Indo-European speaking Western Hunter Gatherers, who are uniformly blue eyed. The data also points that natural selection has been favoring an increase in light skin over the past 5,000 in most areas of Europe, peaking in contemporary Northern Europe. "
Basically even modern day Levantine people are whiter looking than proto Indo Euros.
