The Mercosul in soon ending, how do you feel about this?
>>59748382
FINALLY
Alianza del pacifico masterrace
>>59748806
Serra wants to make Brazil join Alianza del Pacifico lel
>>59749032
Fuck hell m8
>>59749123
What's wrong?
Alianza del Pacifico master race
>>59748382
FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST
>>59749228
good question
it's a partnership with USA, Australia and China, how is that bad?
>>59749302
Wrong. That's the TPP (trans pacific partnership). Alianza del Pacifico is a whole different animal
>>59749032
but brazil isnt in the pacific
>>59749591
maybe you could have a special status.
>>59748382
I really hope not, I want that treaty between mercosul and european union
did the mercosur ever do anything worthwile anyways?
>>59749915
That'd be really counter productive. Europe economy has been cooling down for years.
If you really want your country to grow, you should look east (China, India, malaysia)
>>59750124
kek
always, the countries with potentials, the countries that soon will be superpowers
>>59749429
ah bleh
then it's shit
b-but i like mercosur :( venezuela screwed all tb.h
>>59750659
This, democractic clause when?
>>59750659
Maybe if all countries were alligned politically, it'd be worth it, but the only pro-market countries in that bloc are Paraguay and Maybe now Argentina under Macri. I'm not entirely sure about Brazil's new economic policy under Temer though o
>>59748382
what is it?
do any of those 'alliances' actually mean anything?
>>59750124
I don't think one thing rules out the other desu. We asre suffering now because we decided to only commercially trade with latin america and china in the later years.
Getting in accords with EU, Pacific cunts, USA and retain the relations with China and other growing market should be our priorities.
>>59750892
he will TRY to save Brazil from communism but the real results will be seen in 2018
>>59750914
in the case of MERCASHIT, they mean nothing
ever seen that Pirates of Caribbean with the pirates backstabbing each other in turn? well like that
>>59749931
Look at your passport m8
So is this like the SA equivalent of the EU? I've seen it on your passports.
>>59751352
There are 2 blocs in SA
1. Mercosul: Brazil, Argentina. Venezuela, Paraguay and Uruguay
2. Alianza del Pacifico (Pacific alliance): Mexico, Colombia, Peru, Chile.
One thrives, while the other is seen as a failure.
>>59751352
yeah is something la EU but shittier and not all SA is there, just: Brazil, Argentina, Uruguay, Paraguay, Venezuela (Unfortunetly) and probably Bolivia soon. Is pretty much the big exporters of SA together for "free trade market"
>>59748806
>>59749288
w-we are pacific too..
>>59751498
So which one is which?
>>59748382
I don't think it's ending, I think it's changing... from left to righ
>>59751718
take a good look at southamerican news and guess
>>59751352
> So is this like the SA equivalent of the EU?
that would be UNASUR.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Union_of_South_American_Nations
if you are South American, you can cross any border with just your ID.
>>59751645
>Is pretty much the big exporters of SA together for "free trade market"
not really, pic related.
Now that Cristina and Dilma are out and Maduro is about to be kill things are turning around.
Also we are negotiating the FTA with the EU which could really help with our trade isolation.
>>59752074
The mercosur emphasizes internal trade between members rather than external trade, but this will probably change soon. Thankfully.
>>59752074
That's once again demostrate how Mercosur is failing. Because we are the "big" exporters but lot of failing trades and stupid goverments just made it worse.
Alianza del Pacifico has smart people on charge so of course you win on trades
>>59751656
I know, but sadly Correa doesn't want to trade with us. I wish you were in the bloc too :(
>>59751718
Mercosul is struggling a bit right now as some countires are going through tough times and political instability. Venezuela is close to civil war, Brazil just impeached Dilma and Argentina has been struggling during the last decade due to populism. Now Macri is trying to change that but argentines are not too fond of him right now as he's been takinf some unpopular, but necessary measures.
>>59752153
leftism is dying in SA as a whole, my friends, rejoice
>>59749288
>Israel is involved
Goy,I..
>>59752300
>Biggest food producer in the world, a ton of other raw materials
>WE WON'T TRADE WITH THE CAPITALIST COLONIALIST FIRST WORLD
>THE SOUTH IS MY NORTH
Please someone kill this people
>>59752502
Yes. Israel is just an observer state. Not too influential (I think lmao)
>>59752430
please this. Fucking Bolivarianism is ruining this bloc and the fucking continent
>>59752340
Correa is ruining this country :/
Official /belaruse/ thread №666
>>59752784
missed sry ^^
>>59752784
Will the 30 Belarussian rubles I have be worth something now?
>>59752839
No bro, minimal note now is 100 rubles and this is 1/200 of dollar
>>59752784
ive heard its hard yo get into your country, is it true?
>>59753022
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Belarus
pff you have it easy
I dont know anything about this. But does this affect our sovereignty in anyway? Do our merchant allies have a say or an influence in how we live our lives for better or for worse? If so then I'm all for fucking off forever.
I prefer Jefferson's quote "Commerce with all and allies to none".
>>59752784
It is dificult to buy a qt belarusian wife and bring her here?
>>59749288
Based liberal alliance.
Mercosul is a commie cancer and must be dissolved.
>>59753079
Oh i didnt kenw that. Thats nice. Maybe ill visit belarus someday
>>59753357
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_policy_of_Ecuador
si yo fuera en tu lugar, viajaría por todos lados lel
>>59753418
shit wrong one
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Ecuadorian_citizens
>not going to Russia too
>>59753418
I think you're a bit confused. Those are the countries whose nationals can travel to Ecuador without a visa.
This is the map you need to look at:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Ecuadorian_citizens
>>59753227
Currently, individual countries cannot enter trade agreements with other countries unilaterally, they need approval from other memebers.
This wouldn't be such a big issue if the Mercosur itself would actively push new agreements with other countries or blocs but in order to strengthen the "internal market and industry" meme, the Mercosur hasn't move in decades.
For Uruguay and Paraguay who are very small and rely on trade a lot this is extremely negative.
>>59753477
Yeah there arent many countries i could travle visa free.
Russia and turkey would be top destinations for me
Fuck all of you american bootlickers.
>>59753971
>speaks in english in an american website.
You're a bit confused my man.
>>59754175
Esta rica la media?
>>59754211
Theeee bullieeed onee misteeerrssss
>>59754211
No dude, I simply don't care about patriotism. "Loving" one's country too much can have disastrous consequences such as the situation your country is going through right now.
>aMeriCan BoTliCkeRs
I would lick an american boot for citizenship any day
>>59753227
Yes
If countries join thtat shit its game over
Macri can't do it here cause niggers will have a legitimate excuse to chimp out and he won't ever get a majority in the congress
I think we are safe for a few years
Also did it pass in the US congress? when are they voting?
>>59754435
I would lick your dick for free any day.
>>59754331
Daily reminder that my country is milles forward than your shithole.
>>59754331
Pegate un tiro, lacra.
>whoring yourself to europeans even though they'll obviously protect their products
genius
>>59753665
Thats cuz you are probably some cholo without money. Sigue vendiendo pozo millonarios en las calles ñengozo de miarda.
>>59754596
calm down man
>>59754506
You're in no position to make comparisons as you haven't even been here to start with.
I'm not gonna argue about the fact that your country is way safer than mine, but I'll let you know some measures in which my country beats yours:
1. Inflation: 40% (Arg) vs 4% (Col)
2. Poverty: 30+ due to inflation (Arg) vs 20% and going down (Col)
3. Economic growth: -1% (Arg) vs 3% (Col)
4. Financial freedom
5. Ease of doing business
6. Biodiversity
7. Less coruption.
8. No socialist populist boycotting the country
9. No protests from socialist groups almost every week.
>>59754891
1)Highest salary in south america, also, not 40% of inflation, but 20% and Cholombia has 7%.
http://www.dinero.com/economia/articulo/la-inflacion-alta-ultimos-anos/217685
2) Poverty 30+% kek...
Meanwhile...
http://m.eluniversal.com.co/temas/indice-de-pobreza-en-colombia
4) Free healthcare, free education, cheap and good public transport
5) Economic what? Second LA economy... Hi...
6) You should make FARC hostages get that freedom
7) Argentina has 2.800.000km2 of biodiversity and an Antartic portion
8) Less corruption, yes, one position behind lol
http://www.minutouno.com/notas/155782-argentina-figura-los-10-paises-mas-corruptos-america-latina
9) But a guerrilla killing people since 50 years
10) Still a better place to live than your shithole m8
Plus: We don't fuck donkeys.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CHwNz-UD95s
>>59755420
You got some really wrong numbers desu
1) that's right. You've got the highest salary in SA. Inflation here is gonna close this year at around 6%. Argentina is nowhere close to 20%, more like 40%: http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1886938-calculan-que-la-inflacion-llegara-al-6-en-abril
2) http://www.lanacion.com.ar/1810504-crecio-la-pobreza-en-la-argentina-y-afecta-a-11-millones-de-personas
3) ....
4) Nothing is free. It's all paid by taxpayers. "Cheap" is not the same as subsidized.
5) Argentina is not the 2nd economy in LA, it's the 3rd after Brazil and Mexico. We're 4th but we're gonna surpass you soon, it's just a matter of time as we already did it in 2014: http://www.ibtimes.com/colombia-surpasses-argentina-latin-americas-third-largest-economy-due-inflation-1563342
6) Farc are not taking hostages anymore. Get your facts straight. They're actually about to demobilize.
7) Colombia is the 2nd most biodiverse country in the world after Brazil. Argentina is not even in the top 10.
8) More like 24 positions behind m8: http://www.transparency.org/cpi2015#map-container
9) This is true. Argentina also had this kind of violence so this is nothing to be proud of
10) Quality of life is relative. Ilive a good life here, haven't had any violent issue, but in general you're right about this. Argentina enjoys a better quality of life than my country.
Plus: We don't fuck donkeys either. You're generalizing. It's like saying that 40 million argentines are arrongant when they're clearly not. I'ts just a stereotype
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMN_6_sOqWU
>>59756744
>>59755420
>Free healthcare, free education, cheap and good public transport
didn't Macri rise up like 3 times the cost of public services and transport?
>Argentina has 2.800.000km2 of biodiversity and an Antartic portion
you don't have too much biodiversity, you aren't a megadiverse country.
and you don't have sovereignity over the Antartida.
>8) Less corruption, yes, one position behind lol
24 positions behind in the world ranking.
>Plus: We don't fuck donkeys.
but your gauchos fuck cows and horses like Costeños, except that Costeños here are a minority, and gauchos are the centre of your culture.
>>59758745
>but your gauchos fuck cows and horses like Costeños, except that Costeños here are a minority, and gauchos are the centre of your culture.
There's about 10 million inhabitants in the caribean region, not to mention all the costeños in other cities.
What exactly do you understand as a minority?
>>59758745
> but your gauchos fuck cows and horses like Costeños
Where did you get this info from? Mind sharing a source.
>>59761417
they're still a minority in a 48 million people country.
>>59752430
Not according to opinion polls
>>59754331
Yes and not loving it turns you into Germany
that won't happen temer is a pussy, and things will get pretty messy after he announces austerity measures, he will probably be impeached or Dilma will return. People here think that just because Dilma got suspended from office that people have changed kek, it's hillarious considering the main factor that made Dilma impopular was the "light-austerity" measures that she tried to impose. Now let's see the same people that were agaisnt her change sides because oil + inflation is destroying their salaries + privatization of every common public service + revoking worker's rights. Get ready for armaggedon my stupid right wing 4chan people
>>59761775
>20,8%
>Minority
Yeah, sure, by that logic even paisas, rolos or everyone for that matter are a minority
>>59756883
Reminder that you lasted like 6 months with a higher HDI. that was thanks to the pre-school modification laws in your country, but we counter attacked with the reform to college education so we are back on top :D
It's honestly hilarious seeing the irrational faith right-wing South Americans put in the American system. They are probably all wealthier than average, and have traveled to the nicest American cities a few times.
It's never so simple. Then again, the Bolivarians have failed South America and now pay the price in the elections.
>>59762215
where the proofs
>>59761971
There needs to be a balance. That's why I said loving it TOO MUCH isn't good as it'll lead you to take stupid protectionist measures that will end up ruining the country you supposedly "love" so much.
>>59762245
it's because they believe they are not monkeys/spics and are superior human beings to other citizens due to have been born in a wealthy family, therefore they are entitled to everything and the rest entitled to nothing
>neighbors fighting
>>59762161
20% is a minority man and anything over 50% becomes a majority. We're a decentralized country so your observation sounds about right to me.
>>59762215
This. Idk why argies can't accept the fact that you guys surpass them in every single measure.
>>59762480
nothing wrong with blowing off steam
except for the colombian, he's legit into this
>>59762314
If someone understood trade, they'd realize that most tarifs and protections are retarded.
There's no shortcut to prosperity. Instead, do what Japan, SK, Taiwan, and China have done.
They have the superior development system.
Bolivarians decided to follow a stupid system. It's not to love your country by hurting it through stupid economic policies.
>>59748382
oh boy I can't wait to rob argentina even harder
we'll finally embrace our destiny as south americas jews
