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>america is a country built by immigrants
>america now wants a wall to repel immigrants
What The Fuck.
I kno rite
Guatemala will be helping us build the wall to keep those damn Mexicans out.
Seems like a fruitless effort 2bh even if I don't like them chicanos
EVERYTHING has spanish on it. They've taken over
We're full
>>59617819
>americans think a wall can keep chicanos out
>>59618416
>black will never grow larger than 15%
Thank fucking Christ.
>>59618471
We din't fuck around with the black folk.
>>59618538
>mfw i'm a New Englander
>every single immigrant is the same
>theres no good or bad immigration
okay mate.
>>59621394
>what is legal immigration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gj-iM4gVM7k
>>59621562
>implying most of your work force historically came from legal immigration
>>59618416
This doesn't take into account Trump's wall or massive Latino deportations that will take place after he is elected
>>59618261
you mean keep mexicans out
>>59617724
>america is a country built by immigrants
>tfw american """"""""""""""education"""""""""""" leaks out into the rest of the world
>>59617724
we like legal immigrants not illegal immigrants
they literally automatically have broken laws, which we don't like, because they immigrated illegally
>It's an "If you express distaste for illegal migration the you're a racist immigrant hater" episode
>>59624323
>implying anyone will go over the trouble of getting a visa to employ immigrants on normal jobs
kek ameriburgers, you're just selfish as fuck
>>59624548
>you're just selfish
no I just want to fucking enforce the laws that we have made
While I don't advocating having mass deportations of the illegals as thats more trouble than its worth (the ones that commit more crimes need to go though) I do think we need a wall or something similar at the border to clamp down on illegals because it actually costs the states some money and its fucking ridiculous that we don't control our own border and enforce our own laws.
>>59624143
?
Even at the height of slavery, which was legal, they only made up 20% of the population.
>>59618538
Why West Virginia?
>>59624648
>hurr muh laws
Who cares about laws? What matters is common sense, people just go there to WORK and live a better a life, they would love to become citizens but they can't unless they win the lottery or marry someone
It's like "let's enforce laws about jailing people because they download a mp3 because it's the law!"
dumb selfish fuck
you're just trying to desperately hang on some kind of nationalism to find an identity or some shit
>>59624768
>break the law
>go to jail
Literal police brutality if we're being honest here
>>59624800
lol it's useless nevermind me
>>59617819
But Guatemalans are the problem. They pretend to be mexicans and illegally cross into both countries to get gib me dats. Also, they are browner than the average mexican.
>>59624648
>its fucking ridiculous that we don't control our own border and enforce our own laws.
Are you stupid? It's HIGHLY controlled and it's incredibly difficult to get through. There are also thousands and thousands of deportations every year. Trump made it sound like we let anybody through that's not true at all.
>>59624889
>we dindu nuffin, it was the Guatrmalans!
Mexicans are 90% of the hispanic population, Nice try jose. Also look at the Trump protesters in CA, they were all mexicans
>>59624768
>people just go there to WORK
This isn't always true. Some people come here to leech off the system and have as many babies as they can because our government rewards people for doing so. If someone enters the country illegally they will most likely continue ignoring other laws as well.
>>59624895
>Are you stupid? It's HIGHLY controlled and it's incredibly difficult to get through.
гop кeк
>>59624994
>Some people come here to leech off the system and have as many babies as they can because our government rewards people for doing so
It's in the law! what about muh laws now? Kek
>If someone enters the country illegally they will most likely continue ignoring other laws as well.
Dude, why do you keep comparing this working law with other types of crimes? Dear lord people just want to work honestly and make money, if they could they would pay taxes too
>>59617724
>america is a country built by WHITE EUROPEAN immigrants
fixed for you.
Just because a country is founded on an idea doesn't mean the country has to stick with that idea if it begins to harm them.
>>59625056
That was my first post in this thread. If I had my way, I would get rid of all welfare. This would solve most of my issues with illegal immigrants. I think it is more likely that some type of VAT will be created instead. You can't call someone honest when they break the law to begin with.
>>59625285
>You can't call someone honest when they break the law to begin with
When they break a dumb law I can, it's not just because it's a law that is right, like the Prohibition for example
>>59617819
But THAT'S the problem.
We keep outsourcing our labor and giving it to illegals that cost less.
We should pay AMERICANS to build our wall, as that helps give AMERICANS jobs and stimulates the AMERICAN economy.
>>59626971
but that's communism
>>59627141
No, it's not.
Communism is equal distribution of wealth.
What I'm doing is capitalism.
Paying companies to employ Americans to build the wall.
>>59627141
Even if it was part of communism, it doesn't matter.
It's paying Americans, so that's all about which I care.
Fuck off with your buzzwords.
>>59617724
we just hate that politicians are flooding our country with illegal immigrants to try and change voter demographics.
>>59624648
>deport the ones that commit crimes
we could just execute them.
>>59627368
Government messing with the economy is clearly communism. You are a terrible american for proposing that sin to your country
>>59626971
to be fair i worked in construction and there is a shortage of skilled labourers. carpenters, machinists and electricians are in high demand right now.
Wtf i hate usa now
>>59627688
Exactly.
So we offer to pay people who want to do it, and others will learn the trade because of the good money involved
>>59624143
It did
>>59624889
It would make more sense to pay Mexico to build a wall and patrol it on their southern border. Most illegal immigrants who are Hispanic aren't coming from Mexico anymore and Mexico doesn't want hundreds of thousands of migrants going through their country either. Then maybe just patrol the US Mexico border with drones for surveillance.
>>59628986
They already have a wall, and it's clearly not working
Fuck them
>>59627688
That's because schools make kids think it's better to get some shitty liberal arts degree than become an electrician.
>>59625406
So national sovereignty is dumb now? Jesus, I'm so sick of Latin Americans in this thread bitching about our immigration policies. I'm sorry we don't want to take in a bunch of unskilled laborers when we're rapidly losing low skilled jobs to automation. It's not like every American is racist. We needed a ton of unskilled
Immigrants in the 18th and 19th century. Our Indian and Asian immigrants have to come here legally because of geography so we get to choose educated workers we actually need for our labor force. They struggle and strive to learn English, and adapt to American culture and fill a gap that is getting increasingly larger, not smaller. That's why people don't generally bitch about them. If you want to immigrate and be welcomed learn something useful. Develop some skills that the US actually needs, and don't try to hurr de durr "US is a nation of immigrants" your way in. Also learn English before you come.
>>59629014
but they want a wall "attack on titan" style with thousands of landmines on the mexican side and a number of soldiers patrolling on the american side. They think it will stop drugs from coming in but it won't work (it certainly will stop the dumbest immigrants from setting foot on american soil and getting the drugs that some of them might be carrying into the US though)
>>59625406
>Dumb law
>Having borders is a dumb law
>Maintaining sovereignty is a dumb law
Fuck off globalist. America is already the country that takes in the most immigrants. Most countries have immigration restrictions and yet we're the bad guys for wanting to control our immigration.
>>59617724
No, we weren't built by illegal immigrants (what trump wants to keep out), we were built by people who legally came into our country and assimilated into what was American culture. Illegals often don't assimilate, and instead often practice their own culture instead of adapting into modern "american" "culture".
>>59617819
Fuck off gaut
>>59629604
why can't you guys assimilate them?
>>59629168
Can't the cartels just throw the drugs over the wall? Can't they also just send them through boats through Florida and California?
>>59629650
What do you mean? Mexicans can assimilate into American culture, and often do. Legal immigrants. Illegals don't.
>>59629718
why can't you guys assimilate illegal immigrants then?
>>59629718
>Mexicans can assimilate into American culture,
Literally the less educated people in murrika.
>>59629650
it isn't up to them to do that because they're the host country, the illegals (it's gonna sound weird as fuck, but still) aren't supposed to do the shit they do once they're in the USA.
>>59629743
why not? they would gain a boost in population, would make their culture stronger and would gain more cheap labour if they did that
>>59629733
You do know what I mean by that, right? Or are you saying that they are less educated?
>>59629723
Because its up to them. Often they would rather practice their own culture and would rather speak Spanish than English and don't bother to learn about our history or even the states history.
Often the least they'll do is they'll move to California and start wearing shirts with the Californian flag on them (which is disrespectful enough when white fags do it) but don't even know why it says "California Republic" on it or the history of the state. Most of the time I don't even think they know it was once a part of the Mexican Empire.
>>59629765
that the locals change their ways to please the immigrants (illegals)? that is simply retarded (europe is the prime example when one does that, and how bad it turned out)
>boost in population, when the vast majority of the ones crossing the border come from the worst places in mexico...the jamals of mexico
>>59629733
He's right though. We had two Mexican presidential candidates. Mexicans are just another American ethnic group like German and Irish.
It's yet another "spic doesn't understand the difference between legal and illegal" thread
>>59629723
They assimilate pretty well in other states but the most cancerous mexicans come from California. I think it's just California that turns everybody it absorbs into shit. Just look how retarded their whites are
>>59629860
we are the prime example of the opposite 2bh
>>59629840
>Often they would rather practice their own culture and would rather speak Spanish than English and don't bother to learn about our history or even the states history.
Why does this happen there 2bh? Almost all syrians that came here after 2-5 months can speak portuguese and almost all immigrants speak portuguese here, heck even the japanese learned to speak our language back in the day
>>59629901
why there should be a difference 2bh if you can integrate them, you can only gain from that 2bh
>>59629950
>gain from a bunch of smelly illiterate retards gobbling up public costs and devaluating the price of labor
>>59629969
>gobbling up public costs
says who, here they are treated like the locals no welfare
>devaluating the price of labor
if you got no work legislation that sure happens m8
>>59629928
I don't know. My guess is because America is seen as a "melting pot of cultures" they can practice their own and don't have to adept at all, and that they can act here like they acted in Mexico. This is one of the reasons why real American culture died out/changed ao drastically, because people think they don't have to adept.
>>59630008
Read Adios America from Ann Coulter to understand the public costs shit.
>>59630113
you need to read a book to know that m8, the more they let in, the worse things will get
>>59630139
don't need*
>>59617724
how was america built by immigrants?
>>59630198
it wasn't built by the natives
>>59630218
it was built by colonists, not immigrants
>>59630235
what's the difference m8?
>>59630251
an immigrant moves from one country to another? there were no countries in the Americas prior to European colonial settlements.
>>59629882
Fucking moron. Neither Cruz not
Rubio are of Mexican descent
>>59617819
Nice try, Guatemalan, but you need to go back.
>>59617724
If immigrants are so good at building countries, they should fix Mexico.
>>59630272
2bh, most of your workforce came after you became a country not during the 13 colonies
>>59630295
it's been tried several times but things always go down the toilet either because of the greed of national and foreign bastards or people who want to live by the "el chingon" rule (if i mess with you and get away with it i'm superior to you, it is a despicable trait, and deeply ingrained into the mentality of many people down here, thus it's a never ending battle among mexicans, there's no cohesion like in homogenous societies). To many is far better just to leave everything behind to immigrate to the US (you know, "ima make more money n shiiiett").
>>59617724
The country is built already, no need for more immigrants
