Which one is great?
Portuguese
>>59549052
you forgot to add that indonesia is muslim and brazil is catholic.
Holland.
however...
it wasn´t really an empire...it was about making lots of money.
>>59553957
yeah it turned muslim...
You forgot we also conquered England. Because the English were so weak lmao.
>>59556055
That was the only reason for colonial empires. The spice must flow.
This was the greatest Dutch not Belgian empire desu.
>>59556109
>weak
>greatest empire ever
>weak
>we only fought you when you were going through a civil war
The map doesn't make reference to the land we had in India, which gaves us a lot of money in the early 1600-1700s. Anyway, the Dutch didn't have what we had. Our empire worked flawlessly. We would go from Lisbon (Portugal) to our African provinces, we'd pick up boats full of slaves, bring them to Brazil, where we already have natives and slaves running the mining operations and we'd pick up the gold they mined for us and take it to Lisbon. This triangle made us so much cash bra.
Todays empire.
>>59556360
>Statistically, the VOC eclipsed all of its rivals in the Asia trade. Between 1602 and 1796 the VOC sent almost a million Europeans to work in the Asia trade on 4,785 ships, and netted for their efforts more than 2.5 million tons of Asian trade goods. By contrast, the rest of Europe combined sent only 882,412 people from 1500 to 1795, and the fleet of the English (later British) East India Company, the VOC's nearest competitor, was a distant second to its total traffic with 2,690 ships and a mere one-fifth the tonnage of goods carried by the VOC. The VOC enjoyed huge profits from its spice monopoly through most of the 17th century.
ayyy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_East_India_Company
>>59556360
I think we made more cash, because the Dutch Indies Company is the most valuable company in history, adjusted to inflation
>>59556472
During our golden age we were more than twice as rich per capita as poortugal.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_regions_by_past_GDP_%28PPP%29_per_capita
>>59556307
Never forget that we conquered you but you never conquered us :DDD
>>59556366
>Finland
>>59556551
Looking at the chart Portugal has been poor for 1000 years now. ayyy
>>59556366
>>59556728
>>59556562
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>>59556435
>>59556472
Goddamn, I did not know about that. Shame that we wasted our money buying luxury shit instead of investing it :'(
>>59556307
Feels good to have conquered England. Like the pussies you are.
>>59557042
>William's fleet, which with about 40,000 men aboard was roughly twice the size of the Spanish Armada – and assembled in a tenth of the time – consisted of 463 ships
>>59557042
>>59557091
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution
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Funny how you can only """"fight us"""""" during a civil war though isn't is? You sneaky Dutch kikes
>>59549052
Stop shitposting Nipon. This isn't a fair fight for the Dutch.
>>59557323
>William considered his veteran army to be sufficient in size to defeat any forces (all rather inexperienced) which James could throw against him, but it had been decided to avoid the hazards of battle and maintain a defensive attitude in the hope James's position might collapse by itself
Don't worry. We'll just watch and see you guys collapse in fear.
>>59557444
>Le people le supported Cromwell
>Le who is le Queen mary
>WE CONQUERED YOU PUSSIES HAHA
>Don't worry. We'll just watch
>>59557444
>James offered free elections and a general amnesty for the rebels. In reality, by that point James was simply playing for time, having already decided to flee the country. He feared that his English enemies would insist on his execution and that William would give in to their demands. Convinced that his army was unreliable, he sent orders to disband it.
The English were so afraid they just disbanded their army altogether.
>>59557323
Fight smart not hard
From >>59557042 to >>59557444 and >>59557702
Oh this is hilarious
>>59557829
different people because we live in a free nation
>>59556435
>a private company
>>59557829
The Netherlands has always made decisions based on the economics of things.
Even today with the massacre of Srebrenica where the Dutch troops decided it wasn't feasible to defend the Muslims and just went on their way.
>>59556095
Been muslim since way before you guys showed up.
Quite unfortunate too. Could still be Buddhist with some dank temples.
>>59557963
Our colonies weren't owned by the Dutch state. They were owned by private companies, with the right to colonize, declare war and form treaties.
Only when the companies were disbanded the state took over their properties.
It's a bit like if Royal Dutch Shell would have an army and a free pass to do anything it wanted.
>>59558021
no.but you could be catholic.
>>59557042
what the fuck are you talking about
>>59558072
The Glorious Revolution in England. After which we put a Dutch King on the English thrown.
>>59558031
Ok so basically you used to be the richest country in the world but now you're not.Tell me how much in terms of culture propagation you managed to do
>>59558116
so he fled to a better country?
>>59558031
Shell does have Nigerian military on the payroll though.
>>59558150
>>59558116
>Dom't talk about Queen Mary of England
The people supported him.
Portuguese
Dutch are as bad as koreans
>>59558239
The people here also supported Napoleon. But you dont hear us about that.
>>59549052
those are only colonies in the map,we also controled various trading ports in the indian ocean.The dutch had the far east but the portuguese weren't interest on the far east when they had the fucking spices of india, gold of brazil and niggers of africa.
They also fought agaisn't us when we were under the iberian union.The king filipe of spain didn't know how to manage both countries at once so he didn't give a fuck about our colonies
When we got ''independent'' we fucking nailed your asses to the ground...
>>59557042
Even if this was technically a "conquer" it's nothing to be proud of, England sucked the Dutch economy dry and stole the Dutch navy.
>>59558708
The armada sucked dude
>>59558708
You know that was our independence war right. It wasnt about colonies but about the Netherlands. Our golden age just started at that moment.
>>59559330
you were atacking a fucking leashed dog for fuck sake...
We couldn't protect our interests until 1640.Before that if you conquered a colony of ours we couldn't send ships there because the habsburg king would let us.
>implying bouth weren't jewish empires
>>59559721
The 80 year war vs Spain for our independence was around
>1566–1648
And our golden age started then.
>>59549052
>Portugal
>Netherlands
>Great
The Dutch were pretty shit colonizers, honestly.
There's hardly even any influence of them left in most places they owned, with this being a different story with the Portuguese.
>>59560006
>Germany
>relevant
Germany started to be relevant 100 years ago, before that it was nothing but dumb random kingdoms
>>59560441
The American constitution is almost entirely based on the Dutch one
>>59560441
You know Indonesian has 10.000 Dutch loanwords.
In South Africa you have more native Afrikaans speakers than native English speakers. Afrikaans used to be a Dutch dialect until a few decades ago.
In Suriname they speak Dutch.
>>59560441
South Africa has more Afrikaans speakers than there are Norwegians.
>>59556109
>this triggers the englishman
>>59549052
tugas were nothing but a bunch of nigger-lovers
>Portugal's True empire
>>59560441
We literally only wanted the money.
>>59561096
And it's a based one desu.
>>59563429
>Neo-Moorish caliphate when?
>>59561096
Stronger than your dots which you call colonies.
>>59563595
>The Netherlands won wars against Germany, France and the UK at the same time
>The Netherlands won wars against the UK and Russia at the same time
Try it famalan.
average dutch brazilian
