Was he French or German?
>>59400752
He was a Frank. So neither. Or both, if you insist to have an answer.
>>59400802
/thread
>>59400802
>He was a Frank
So more of a German than a French?
>>59400752
If he was French he'd be holding a scimitar and a Muslim crescent.
>>59401062
If he were German he'd be holding a scimitar and a Muslim crescent.
Charle Da Mane was African.
Was he French or German?
>>59401000
"Frank" is the same word as "French". But in those times, "Germany" was part of "France".
>>59400752
>>59401000
>>59401000
Germanic doesn't equal German.
Scandis are original Germanics and they don't consider themselves German.
Germany exist since 1870, how come they could be related with Charlemagne 1000 years ago...
>>59400752
Franks were clever. It's not often foreign conquerers trick their slaves into thinking they're the conquerers. The French are even proud of being branded with the name of their masters. The only other example that comes close to France's level of subservience I can think of is the Philippines being named after a Spanish king.
>>59401760
>Charlemagne => 800 Anno Domini
>France => 843 A.D
You aren't very bright
>>59401394
That's because you Frenchies have a different concept of nationality than us.
>>59400752
The language he spoke became Dutch. He was Dutch. :^)
>>59400752
German. Fuck the French they always have to claim everything.
>>59401325
Yes we do you dumb slavshit
>>59400752
He was clearly of Dacian blood, probably from a migration since we wuz great worriors and we traveled across all of Europe
>>59402061
Of course Danish consider themselves German lol.
You dropped weapons the moment Wehrmacht entered.
>>59401760
You forget America being named after an European sailor.
>>59401760
>American "history"
I always wondered, do they teach you these things or do you make them up on the go? and if taught, is it possible you have misunderstood?
He was Belgian. From an originally Dutch Frankish tribe.
>>59401943
You're not wrong.
WE WUZ FRANKZ N SHEEIT
>>59401760
1: you're speaking a french dialect
2: if it wasn't for us, you wouldn't exist
3: France is germanic in the north, italo celtic in the south
4: you're probably a spic.
neither. the idea of a nationality or a culturally unified nation did not exist back then.
>>59402250
WE
>>59401937
It's because you're retarded dude
You should go to your history class more often
>>59402273
>France is germanic in the north
While true, that area is very, very small. Most of France is Romanized Gauls.
Today only the Westhoek is Frankish/Germanic.
>>59402122
We did it because we didn't wanna fight our cousins. Also I would rather not my coutnry get bombed and thousands of people slaughtered just because I can be part of the ''WE WUZ NOT NAZIS WE FOUGHT BACK AND LOST MILLIONS WE GOOD'' people like you. Proves how smart we are. You are just jealous that the nazis considered us aryan and you subhumans
>>59400752
Frank/French : German who decided to learn Latin and adopted the Roman customs he liked (but not all) and (much more important) converted to Christianism. And proceeded to conquer an enormous empire (see map).
>>59402340
I'm alsatian. And I shit on your head, kanker.
>>59402373
>German
You, sir, are fucking retarded. Germanic isn't an equivalent of German.
>>59402373
>Frank
>Adopted Latin
Why are Franks today not speaking Latin?
Are they French or German?
>>59402289
True.
But you can still say that they were ancestors to the modern [insert name here]
>>59402371
I'm not mad, why would I be? Hitler considered anyone aryan, anyone who he needed in german uniform.
Blacks? = Egyptians.
Arabs? = Sumerians
Russians? = Vikings
South Slavs? = Illyrians
That's how it works. If we were on Nazi side, we would be Vandals.
>>59401937
>That's because you Frenchies have a different concept of nationality than us.
That is true.
German nation = gemeinschaft
French nation = gesellschaft
Hence the problems with Lorraine and Alsace.
>frank c. 1300, "free, liberal, generous;" 1540s, "outspoken," from Old French franc "free (not servile); without hindrance, exempt from; sincere, genuine, open, gracious, generous; worthy, noble, illustrious"
>A generalization of the tribal name; the connection is that Franks, as the conquering class, alone had the status of freemen in a world that knew only free, captive, or slave
So there were Franks and then there were slaves >>59401908 >>59402180 >>59402220
>>59402380
>Alsatian
>Frankish
No, Lorraine perhaps, but Alsace isn't Frankish.
>Alsace
>Northern France
Alsace is Eastern France, not Northern France.
hmmm...
>>59402459
No, you were subhumans and to be purged to grant Lebensraum to the Reich.
>>59402572
>No, you were subhumans and to be purged to grant Lebensraum to the Reich.
That is after we refused to cooperate further.
From 34 to 38 we were allies with Hitler and German propaganda was in our favour.
>>59402482
But French is a notion created to separate a part of the Franks (Francia occidentalis) from the other Franks (Francia orientalis)
I mean, I know that you have some serious brain damages, but you can stop embarrassing yourself.
>>59400752
People in his home town called him Kerel, later Kerel de Groote. Definitely Germanic (Germany didn't exist back then).
>>59402460
>Hence the problems with Lorraine and Alsace.
There is ?
>>59402501
Never said elsass was frankish, but germanic.
>>59402501
>Alsace is Eastern France, not Northern France.
Still in the north you mong.
>>59402482
So the answer to my question "how do Americans come up with these things?" is, "they look up on wikipedia and draw retarded conclusions"?
>>59402459
Okay mr. alt history guy
>>59402482
>frank c. 1300, "free, liberal, generous;" 1540s, "outspoken," from Old French franc "free (not servile);
>French
>A people who destroyed their nobility and Bourbon monarchy to acquire more liberty for the bourgeois
>Their most famous kinsman is Napoleon, the first man who used the word "liberalism" in a political context
>Germans
>They have fought time and again for servile, backwards institutions from the "Holy" "Roman" "Empire" to the Nazi "Reich"
>Their most famous kinsman is Adolf Hitler, the first non-Communist totalitarian tyrant and the mind behind the greatest genocide Europe has ever seen
Which of the two sounds more "free, liberal, generous"?
>>59402551
>to separate a part of the Franks
Except only the ruing class was Frankish. Most commoners were Gallo-Roman. Eventually the Franks in Gaul just went up in the Latin-speaking majority.
France never had a Frankish majority.
>>59402669
>>59402648
>There is ?
There was.
You're right, I should have said *past* problems.
>>59402687
>Defending Napoleon
Franskiljon aub
>all these butthurt non countries
I love being french
>>59402592
He tricked you. He made a pact with Stalin too, but was a bitter enemy of communism since his younger days (it's in Mein Kampf) and ended up attacking the USSR.
>cooperate further
Cooperation for a Pole would have meant comitting suicide and bequeathing all his possessions to the German state.
>>59402759
>Being an orangist
>Defending the incompetent tyrant Willem I
>Forgetting that the only monarch in Dutch history to ever receive the epiteth "The Good" was a Bonaparte
>>59402705
>France never had a Frankish majority.
Nobody said that. Dude, weed, lmao.
>>59402719
Bien.
>>59402802
>Being proud of being a Dutch colony
ekkek
>>59400752
inb4 Charlemagne
Kerel de Groote! He heavily support German literature during his life and encouraged many to writ in German. No one in his early life spoke any latin langauge, so he is German for sure!
>>59402822
>Forgetting that the only monarch in Dutch history to ever receive the epiteth "The Good" was a Bonaparte
Napoleon betrayed poor sweet innocent Louis "I am the Rabbit of Olland" Bonaparte.
>>59402836
>Nobody said that.
But plenty of people implied that the French wuz Franks. But Germans and the Dutch wuz and are way more Frankish than France had ever been.
>>59402482
"Frank" became "Franc" which gives "France". Our old currency was called "Franc". So was Belgium's.
It's still the currency of Switzerland and many former African colonies (Franc CFA).
On the other hand we have Germany / Deutschland / Allemagne.
I think even you can understand.
But again, Charlemagne was *neither*, but if you insist, both. Or if you insist even more, he was more "French" than "German".
>>59402991
>So was Belgium's
Reminder that over 60% of Belgium is Dutch, and even more before the 20th century..
>he was more "French" than "German"
That's delusional.
>>59400752
>Holy
>Roman
>Empire
3/3=100% lie
>Democratic
>People's
>Republic
of Korea
3/4 =75% lie
>>59401097
>flag actually has a crescent
lolol
>>59400752
French is synonymous with slave so Charlemagne was Germanic.
>>59403217
But nobody in this thread denied the fact that he was Germanic
>>59400752
HOL UP
>>59403152
>France
>0% Frankish language
>0% Frankish blood
>0% Frankish culture
>>59403284
Why are you even in this thread? You're a Muslim.
>>59403284
But he wasn't French in any sense of the word. His first language wasn't even Latin. He wasn't even born in France, but in Aken or Luik (Luik at that time was Germanic speaking).
>>59402371
>You are just jealous that the nazis considered us aryan and you subhumans
>>59403085
>derp
Belgium used the Franc belge as its currency before the Euro was introduced. Like France and Switzerland. That's a fact.
>That's delusional.
I did say the question makes no sense if the first place. But if you insist, for some retarded reason, to disregard the correct answer and then a less-correct answer, that's the third one.
>>59402708
I love how you think an image on the internet can defy what actually happened in history.
All Eastern Europeans were untermensch in Nazi eyes - they wanted your lands to extend themselves into a massive empire, filling the land and replacing the people with German settlers.
Sure, they used some auxiliaries who went outside their racial policies for the extra manpower, but that certainly doesn't mean these people were deemed to be Aryans - that was a reservation saved solely for Scandinavians, Brits, Dutch, Belgian, partly French, and of course and centrally, German people.
Read a book man.
>>59403354
But nobody can seriously pretend that he was French/Dutch or German. These nationalities weren't even a thing
>>59403354
Again.
Smart answer: he was neither
Retarded answer (if /int/ insist): he was both
Super retarded answer (if /int/ insists futher): he was French
"he was German" is just even wrong.
If you *must* leave only two choices, then French is the more correct one. Retarded as it is.
It's like asking if he was a dog or a bird. Well he would be a dog.
>>59403364
>Belgium used the Franc belge as its currency before the Euro was introduced. Like France and Switzerland. That's a fact.
Indeed it is, but it doesn't in any way strengthen the point that France is Frankish.
.>I did say the question makes no sense if the first place.
While the question is indeed one where the answer can vary, Charlemagne spoke Frankish (A language still spoken in central Germany, Flanders and the Netherlands) as his first language, wan't born in France, and didn't die in France.
>>59403444
But you can tell for sure that he was Germanic and not Latin
>>59403498
>Smart answer: he was neither
Smart answer: he was Frankish
>>59403572
But, again, nobody denied it.
>>59403295
>>0% Frankish language
Heaume has the root as helmet.
>>0% frankish blood
Now you're just retarded
>>0% Frankish culture
Well most of our kings were frankish
Why are americlaps so retarded ?
>>59403609
But French people aren't Germanic in any stretch of the word. Or are Italians, Spaniards and Tunisians Germanic as well?
Germans and Dutch people are closer to the old Franks than the French.
>>59403498
Charlemagne has black eagle heraldry >>59400752 so he'd be bird.
French are slaves so you're a dog.
>>59403609
So if French is considered a Latin language, he could not have been French, right?
>>59403444
were not talking about nationality, the concept of the nation doesn't even exist yet. However, the entirety of gaul was conquered by a dutch-belgian tribe called the franks whom would remain the ruling class until the capetians became kings
>>59403683
>call Karolus Magnus 'charlemagne'
i don't know his Frankish name
>>59403549
>wan't born in France, and didn't die in France
I wasn't born in France (but Pennsylvania), my parents were Americans and ancestors English, it's possible I won't die in France (while in vacation for instance).
Yet guess what, I'm French.
My ID and passport say so, I see myself as French and so do my new countrymen the French.
>>59403744
His Frankish name was Karl.
In modern Low Frankish, he is called Karel de Grote.
>>59403781
>My ID and passport say so
So ethnic Algerian immigrants are French now?
>>59403744
>not calling him Karl der Große
>>59403744
>Karolus Magnus
Are you fucking kidding me?
Karel de Groote you fucking morons.
>>59403871
heh
That's the beauty of being British. British isn't an ethnicity, English, Scottish, Welsh, Ulster-Scot, Irish and Cornish are all ethnicities and its impossible for an immigrant to be any one of those
Suck it you continental wankers
>>59403833
But everybody calls him Charlemagne, the French way.
See?
The same problem arose for Lorraine and Alsace at a time, but we call them that, not "Lothringen" and "Elssas" the German terms. So they're French, too.
It's simple, really:
awesome things -> French
crummy things -> German
>>59403699
>he could not have been French
Of course he wasn't, you cannot retro-actively attribute a nationality to someone, it's senseless
>>59403743
That's pretty obvious, what are you trying to say ?
>>59403871
Yeah. Speaking French is 80% of the thing and the rest is largely paperwork.
>>59400752
Frankish
>>59403959
>But everybody calls him Charlemagne
Untrue. English is an exception, and even they often use Charles the Great.
>He was named Karl (Charles in French and English, Carolus in Latin) after his grandfather, Charles Martel. Later Old French historians dubbed him Charles le Magne (Charles the Great), becoming Charlemagne in English after the Norman conquest of England. The epithet Carolus Magnus was widely used, leading to numerous translations into many languages of Europe. He was known in German as Karl der Große; Dutch, Karel de Grote; Danish/Norwegian/Swedish, Karl den Store; Italian, Carlo Magno; Catalan, Carlemany; Bosnian, Croatian and Serbian, Karlo Veliki; Spanish, Carlomagno; Portuguese, Carlos Magno; and various others.
>>59403675
>>59403699
You're speaking right now a latin language.
Are you latin ?
>>59403957
So the Queen of England isn't English?
>>59402250
my nigga
>>59403957
So prince Philip and 50% of your royal family is not British then I guess.
>>59404057
>English
>Latin
French education.
I'm pretty sure English is pretty much Frisian with many Romance loans, but you are delusional and just plain contrarian if you are willing to go against pretty much every linguist ever.
>>59404057
Don't be retarded please, English isn't a Latin language
>>59404071
nah she's prussian
>>59404118
Learning English when you're French is about 5 minutes work, you just forget there's such a thing as grammar and use French words in a random order. There often are duplicate words of Germanic origin, but "liberté" is understood as well as "freedom". People understand.
In contrast it's much more difficult to "improvize" Spanish, a Latin language.
>>59404057
>Are you latin ?
No I'm not, and that's my entire point. Only because I learned English later in life as a secondary language, that didn't make me an English man.
Only because Karel de Grote learned Latin languages later, that doesn't make him Latin. Meanwhile everyone says the French are a Latin people.
>>59403959
>"Elssas" the German terms
"Elsaß" is the german term.
"S'elsàss" is the elsässisch term.
It seems pointless, but it is important actually.
Sorry mate but your'e kind of wrong. We sure are rather french than german. But still, elsass is called like that because the river "l'Ill" flows the entire region. In alsatian, it's called something like "s'ell". And there comes the final word " sass", "date" which means "sit". Litteraly where l'Ill sits.
From roots. It's alemannic. French, and proud. But alemannic.
we call him 'Kaaru taitei' (the Great Emperor Karl)
and "aruzasu roreenu"
few people call them "eruzasu rootoringen"
>>59404297
yes but you HAD TO learn english, Charles le grand wanna lern it because he was latinboo
>>59404318
>Alsatian
>Alemannic
>Not a German dialect
What the fuck am I reading
>>59404118
Look at the fucking diagram please.
My point is that english is very similar to french, hence latin.
But their blood is mainly celto-germanic.
Like Northern french.
>>59404517
In this case, grammar matters the most, not vocabulary.
>>59404517
>My point is that english is very similar to french, hence latin.
This assumption is fundamentally incorrect
He was Dutch
>>59404494
France is rather anglo germanic latin or whatever else you want, we know all other country can't understand how much culurally enhanced our country is, a guy with a strong south east italian accent is as much french as a north east guy with a strong german accent, deal with that
>>59402327
How am I retarded? German nationality has been defined historically by way of a mutual language whereas the French formed one nation through mutual political ideals, i.e. citizenship. Where do you think citizen came from (hint: it's citoyen, Kevin)
>>59404591
dutch wasnt a thing back then, France was
>>59400752
He was a slav, through and through.
>>59404517
>english is very similar to french
It really isn't.
In my opinion it is very close to Dutch actually. That said, Dutch also has a lot of French loans.
>>59404494
>>Alsatian
>>Alemannic
Yes it is you uneducated fuck. Don't try to learn me something from my region apje.
Even swabians from Baden Württemberg are alemannic and spoke alemannic before the standard german (swiss too, but it's far from what we hear in elsass and ba-wü).
Elsässisch is an alemannic language hence a german dialect.
>>59404636
>France was
Don't be retarded
>>59404636
>dutch wasnt a thing back then
It was, it was called the Theodiscus.
>>59404725
how do people in A-R communicate with each others in their daily life?
they learn English as a lingua franca?
>>59404400
>and "aruzasu roreenu"
sasuga Nihon, itsumo France no tomodachi
>few people call them "eruzasu rootoringen"
but these are evil. They make Japan friends with nazis and then you get atomic bombs.
Remember WWI? much better to be friends with France.
>>59404725
>Elsässisch is an alemannic language hence a german dialect
YES YOU DUMB FUCK
You implied Alemannic wasn't a German dialect. Is it very far removed from standard German? Yes, definitely. But it's still an upper German dialect. It's closer to standard German than Dutch is.
Frankly, Alsatian isn't a French language. Neither is Breton or French Flemish. France only recognizes French as the sole official language.
>>59404719
>really
>opinion
>very
>actually
French words.
>>59404799
German-speaking Alsatians are required to learn French.
>>59404799
Almost everyone speaks French in France. Even in "acquired" lands like Alsace or Lorraine. Or Corsica.
And not that many people speak English.
>>59404879
GRAMMAR matters when it comes to language classification.
>>59404799
We speak french, 90% of +40 years speak the dialect, 10% of 10-30 speak it. I do.
We speak French essentially.
>>59404866
Nvm, I thought you were saying that alsatian wasn't alemannic. My english skill (french part of me).
Otherwise, I wanted to show that alsatians are still far from the inner germans. Like the swiss actually.
To end this discussion once and for all, here is a comparison image. On the left ist a typical French, on the right Karel de Grote. You can make up your mind yourself...
>>59404265
>Learning English when you're French is about 5 minutes work
>>59404960
>And not that many people speak English
Uh
>>59404799
Everyone here speaks French
>>59405084
>And not that many people speak English
Most people I know that don't speak English didn't learn it because they didn't give a fuck, not because it was too hard
>>59405081
why germans have no senze of humor?
>>59405084
They don't bother. In my extended family of about 20 persons in France, I'm the only one who speaks English, and that's because I was born an American.
Unlike most countries, they don't HAVE to learn English.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Francia
>east FRANCIA
fucking boshs, your land is our rightfull clay
>>59404960
>Even in "acquired" lands like Alsace or Lorraine
What are "non acquired" lands ?
>>59405228
>extended family
>of about 20 persons
top kek
>>59405147
Because their actual cunt is a joke
OP here. So I see that most of you agree that he was more of a German than a French, right? Does that mean that France is rightful German clay?
>>59405125
>>59405228
That's exactly why people over here think French are arrogant. You don't have any meaningful ex colonies. The Brits won the race, just deal with it. Don't come to German fares and expect we speak French to you and don't be the only country at ESC not giving the points in English. It's delusional to think your language is a world language.
>>59405424
>he was more of a German than a French
Yes.
>France is rightful German clay
Not really, the Franks were foreign invaders.
>>59404879
>>59404719
Agreeing with Dutchbro here.
I'm not Finnish, but I lived in Canada for a while and I'm a pureblood Anglo-Canadian, and I can also speak some Swedish and German. I took French too for a number of years.
I can tell you that without doubt, Swedish is actually the closest of all of these languages to English. So close, in fact, that when I was learning things such as grammar (Dutchbro correct here) and syntax, I almost didn't have to learn anything because the sentence structures were so similar, as were many word conjugations.
The only similarity French has with English is that of old French vocabulary which added to the language. That's it. Words like "excellent" and "victory."
All of the basic words of the English language are of Germanic origins. One can make sentences in English which don't use non-Germanic words without even trying.
>>59405081
Stop distorting the facts, Hans.
>>59405290
?
I mean "the persons from my wife's family whom I have to meet every Christmas". Parents, grandparents, sisters, cousins. About 20 altogether.
Is that a lot, or not many?
>>59405447
As I said, I was born in Pennsylvania and only became French when I was in my mid-20s.
So much for your stereotypes.
I am arrogant, though, I'll grant you that, but I already was in America.
>>59405447
Let's be honest.
France :
Biggest EEZ
Second most important language world wide (NATO, UN, OECD, europe council etc, french is a work language (and not german))
France made USA (without our money/soldiers/vessels, I doubt the revolution would have succeed)
First visited cunt in the world
First military power in western Europe
And at last but not least
Best white wine in the fucking world, because french peasants sing french songs when they walk in their fields.
>>59405447
I don't see how it is arrogant. These people chose to work in France, surrounded by French people who speak French. They indeed don't have to learn English, get over it.
Obviously if they chose jobs that ask for knowledge of English they'll learn it, but otherwise there's no arrogance in not being interested in English.
As always foreigners are the ones being triggered by this for some reasons
>>59405666
>white wine
Absolutely disgusting
He was a Frank. He's considered more "french" than "german" because of several reasons:
- First his ancestors, along with the Merovingians, were mainly living in regions we now call France. Charles Martel, his grandfather, fought at Poitiers, not at Berlin or Hambourg
- Charlemagne first kingdom, after Pepin's death, was the western part of the Frankish kingdom, he's therefore more associated with the West and that would be France.
- He fought a long time against the Saxons and other germanic pagan tribes who were living in actual Germany. It's hard to consider him German when he was pretty much their destructor.
>>59405702
Out of my country you snob
>>59405666
>Best white wine
No ! We have the best RED wine. Best white wine is for shitty cold countries or Strasbourg.
>>59405728
>liking pleb wine
Embarrassing
>>59405512
20 people in a family is a little family yes.
>>59405702
Your opinion is discarded pleb
>>59405747
Pleb wine is rosée
>>59405774
>rose
literally fucked up red wine wht's your point?
>>59405281
Not exactly sure but when Mazarin traveled through France, he remarked that out of about 20 million French subjects, at most 1 million could be understood by Parisians.
Apparently, everyone speaking the same French is a recent phenomenon (perhaps no more than 200 years).
I'd say "non-acquired" lands would be the royal domain ca. 1000 AD, an area of less than 7,000 km2 mostly in Ile-de-France. It's not even 1% of modern day France.
>>59405747
>Not liking both wines
>And beer
>And cider
>And liquor
Fuck off if you can't enjoy good things because /ck/ told you it was "pleb" but don't ruin our pleasure
>>59405800
Monbazillac rosé ?
You don't know shit you moron. Learn some basics.
Tu manges ton foie gras avec du rouge pédé ?
>He was French because France and Frank have the same word root
>Also our currency was the Franc
He was obviously Czech then, there is a town named Karlsbad / Karlovy Vary.
>>59405774
>liquoreux
Stop it please
>>59405775
I don't even consider "rosée" as a wine
>>59405865
Sorry but this is now a wine thread
>>59405850
>Monbazillac
>good wine
you are the fucking pleb buying 3-4€a bootle at lidl
>>59400752
Charley the Cool Guy, the Burger King and a famous American Rapper.
>>59405810
>I'd say "non-acquired" lands would be the royal domain ca. 1000 AD, an area of less than 7,000 km2 mostly in Ile-de-France. It's not even 1% of modern day France.
Ok, you're a total retard then.
I wonder why French is so different from Latin.
Spain was the land of visgoth, like France the land of Syagrius, Franci and Burgundi,
but Spanish is much similar to Latin
>>59405921
>Charlemagne was american
/thread/
>>59400752
He was Dutch actually.
>>59405933
Care to explain?
>>59405938
>but Spanish is much similar to Latin
Not that much more than us, for instance they have more words of Arabic roots
>>59401062
>>59401097
if he was European, he'd be holding a scimitar and a Muslim crescent. Here you go.
>>59405889
>Stop it please
Seriously. How do you eat your foie gras ??
>>59405918
And you're the mong who thinks that the dearest ones are the best. Otherwise, my 80€ bottles laugh at you tbf.
>>59405954
But perhaps he would choose to become French like I did?
What am I, according to /int/, btw? French, American, both, neither, Frankish?
inb4
>a retard
>>59406012
>How do you eat your foie gras ??
Ok, I admit, but this is the only legitimate use of a liquoreux
>>59406012
nah but taking Motbazillac as an exemple is fucking ridiculous, this is the very low tier
>>59406026
I guess you can be honorary French, but only if you speak the language
>>59405968
Cause at first you mean that there is a "true" french core, then you talk about "île de France".
We sure are a centralised country, but the differences through regions are huge, and that's why this country is, ehm, was a fucking thing, enough to notice those big regional characters : Louis Pasteur, Charles de Gaulle, Ampère, Surcouf, Napoléon and others.
>>59406026
where did you grew up? if you grew up in states you're american.
>>59405693
>As always foreigners are the ones being triggered by this for some reasons
That's because they had to work to learn the language, they see others not having to learn it while getting similar recognition, and they get mad.
>>59405424
>Does that mean that France is rightful German clay?
No, but Poland is
>>59405693
>As always foreigners are the ones being triggered by this for some reason
That's because they shamefully surrendered their most precious possession, their language, and resent those who haven't.
>>59400752
he spoke a german language
he was from a german tribe
therefore he was german
>>59406063
-desserts
-aperitif
-glass before sleep
Come on mec, revoie tes classiques.
>>59406072
C'est un très bon vin, rapport qualité prix excellent. Et d'ailleurs il n'est pas donné.
Monbazillac. De la piquette.
Mais je vais faire un malaise ici ma parole.
>>59406209
I have no idea what you thought you understood from my post.
I'll try again a second time:
- in 1000AD, "France" was the area in blue on that map <-
- All the rest were "acquired" (in a way of another, conquered, bought, inherited, traded).
And the populations of many of those area either did not speak French, or a French not easily understandable from people from Paris-Orléans.
Like, say Corsica: bought from Genoa in the 18th century, spoke Corsican which is like Italian.
But nowadays, almost everybody in Corsica speaks French.
carlo magno era Romano
Ille vir fuit de Roma
>>59406649
Nee dat is niet waar jij leugenaar!
>>59406692
Alle Franken zijn toch een beetje Romeins?
>>59403744
>call Karolus Magnus 'charlemagne'
English got Charlemagne from Norman, not French. It predates the French language. All translations of the name lead back to the Latin name anyway.
>>59402371
>cuck delusion
>>59400752
Dutch.
>>59407074
this
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan
>>59402705
Underrated post.
Also:
- Isn't the Dutch argument a bit short winded? I mean, the dutch nation has not been a thing before 1648.
>literally the worst disguised bait thread that has been created at least a million times before on both /int/ and /his/
>190 replies
Guys... please...
>>59401000
Franks are from Belgium/Netherlands tho
>>59402902
>Kerel de Groote! He heavily support German literature during his life
Ayyy lmao.
Litterature did not exist at the time. I think it was more about classic latin stuff tho.
>>59407349
Nazi definition of the word was just borrowing it so that they could unite and redefine what they thought Europeans were (NW Europeans).
>>59402759
>Insulting the French
Err...coquin !
>>59403295
>0% Frankish blood
The North, you cunt ?
>>59405666
>Biggest EEZ
No
>>59403675
France is not a country full of people with 100% Celtic blood, you know
>>59400802
/thread
>>59405666
Let me be Frank*
:^)
>>59404057
I want to see something like this for French. It'll only confirm all the Celtic and Germanic words in the French language won't even fit on a post-it note.
The French want to preserve the delusion they're Celto-Germanic instead of Celto-Berber-Syrians.
>>59408362
>ONE man from Lugdunum was Berbero-Syrian so all Frenchies are Berbero-Syrians !
k.
>>59408362
>if we ignore the skull shape, nose shape, lip shape, eye position, the fact that the man he's compared to is mixed, the ear shape, the fact he looks like russel crowe, etc, and if we ignore the fact that berbers and syriacs at this time were not niggrified at all and would look like modern day ashkenazim p much, we can pretend this guy was black despite written descriptions saying he had green eyes and an olive complexion
WE
>>59408609
WUZ
>>59408503
>One Roman colonized France
K.
>>59408761
KANGZ
>>59407825
Yes. The French wiki page is outdated, there have been extensions these past few years, and more to come apparently
>>59408609
>the fact he looks like russel crowe
Caracalla looks like a shitskin.
He spoke a Germanic language and Aachen.
>>59406746
Bis auf ein kleines Dorf...
>>59409497
True. That's pretty good for an American. Proxy?
>>59400752
Karlo Veliki was Serbian.
>>59407553
The dedication to the preservation of Old High German epic poetry among the scholars of the Carolingian Renaissance was significantly greater than could be suspected from the meagre survivals we have today (less than 200 lines in total between the Lay of Hildebrand and the Muspilli). Einhard tells how Charlemagne himself ordered that the epic lays should be collected for posterity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_High_German
Can't find an English source right now, but there are indications that he encouraged people to write texts in German as well.
>>59400752
Howdy, Germanic servants!
Check it out, I'm made of gold!
most retarded thread I see often on /int/
>>59408609
>if we ignore the fact that berbers and syriacs at this time were not niggrified at all
North Africans and Levantines looked the same in 200AD as they do today.
>despite written descriptions saying he had green eyes and an olive complexion
You have no sources. Caracalla was 1/4 Italian and 3/4 Libyan and Syrian. He was a sandnig.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Septimius_Severus
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_Domna
>WE
According to you Middle Easterners and North Africans were nordics and Romans all looked like Russel Crowe. You're a dumb Muslim.
