Denmark has just chosen the F-35 as its premier multirole fighter.
ITT F-35 countries welcome Denmark to the 5th Gen Master Race club
http://breakingdefense.com/2016/05/f-35-wins-denmark-competition-trounces-super-hornet-eurofighter/
Eurofighter btfo.
Also Denmark has decided on the A model.
pls gib super hornet
>>59293495
>28
Lmao wtf this is poverty
>>59294196
some countries prefer spending money on healthcare over jets senpai
>>59294357
I know.
But at least I get forced to wear diapers to work cuz no bathroom breaks!
Freedom!
>>59294357
The F35 is cheaper in the long run
>>59293582
>losing to a 60 million carrier based aircarft
Eurofreighter does it again
M U L T I R O L E
>>59293495
Is F35 5th Gen fighter? Is it the only one available now?
>>59298443
Yes.
No, the F-22 came first and other countries have prototypes.
>F-35 radar system has bug that requires hard reboot in flight
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2016/03/f-35-radar-system-has-bug-that-requires-hard-reboot-in-flight/
>Only One of Six Air Force F-35s Could Actually Take Off During Testing
http://fortune.com/2016/04/28/f-35-fails-testing-air-force/
>"Even with the limited F-16 target configuration, the F-35A remained at a distinct energy disadvantage for every engagement," the F-35 pilot reported. That means the F-35 constantly found itself flying slower and more sluggishly, unable to effectively maneuver to get the F-16 in its sights.
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/report-in-test-dogfight-f-35-gets-waxed-by-f-16/
>unironically relying on a super expensive beta test
>>59298776
Who cares? Rich eurofags will buy it anyway otherwise how they can defeat aliens or mehmets with ak-47.
Hi Denmark.
>>59299417
Literally the only reason why western countries buy super expensive hyper modern jet fighters is to have an edge against Russia. They might not admit it, but that's largely the reason why.
>>59293495
Denmark assfucked by Uncle Sam to buy his trashy F-35.
>muh allies
>>59293495
>Denmark has just chosen the F-35
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>59299543
at least he have jet
>>59293495
>Shenyang J-31
Why are the Chinese always copying us?
>>59299533
B-b-but... Russia is on the verge of collapsus
>>59293495
what's about those 2 planes humping down there?
>>59299590
How can the average citizen profit from jets, carriers or any military spendings at all? There are no threats in the 1st world. I rather have my government paying my education and my healthcare. Like here in Switzerland. Free university and one of the top ten worldwide too. Thats how you can profit.
>>59299761
This same thought process is exactly why the Nazi's steamrolled Western Europe in WW2
>>59299662
wait until they sink your aircraft carriers with it
>>59299761
>There are no threats in the 1st world.
That's nothing but pure conjecture.
Your own government still maintains conscription, so clearly they disagree with you.
>>59299761
It's easy tos ay that when you can pay any country to defend you.
>>59299910
DELET THIS RIGHT NOW
>>59299918
>Your own government still maintains conscription
Germans can invade us any minute.
And they do it already in 1'000s. As Gastarbeiter.
>>59299862
>>59299918
>>59299952
guys. all yanks need their planes and ships for ist to gun down some goat fuckers half a world away. trust me, the government should rather spend their money to pay the peoples meds and higher education
>>59299952
Denmark greatest ally
>>59299862
switzerland's army is not really geared towards airplanes at all です
it's a 19th-century military structure that predates air power being a thing
plus there's no way they'd be able to afford enough to have any meaningful effect
they'd be better off spending the money on rifles and MANPADs
>>59300066
>Has money from the entire world in its banks
>Doesn't get it
Sweden pls
>>59300014
Are you being facetious? I can't tell.
>>59300055
>trust me, the government should rather spend their money to pay the peoples meds and higher education
Why should I?
You seem to mistake for what is ideal, for reality.
>>59299761
>swasiland
>1st world
>>59300148
Dilma, is it you?
IT'S NOT YOUR MONEY, BITCH!
>mfw poorfag
A-At least we get to put some of our shit on it... ;_:
>>59300213
>Are you being facetious? I can't tell.
It's Friday in Europe, dude.
>>59300213
Why are you not using your military to get rid of the enemies INSIDE your country? The mudslimes? Those are the real threat. You are the one not being real here. Brits should make a Kristallnacht in London or we can call you the United Kalifate next year.
>>59294433
>(citation needed)
>>59300322
Why does brazil need an army?
>>59300322
Dat ol' meme.
>>59293495
Then why is my LMT stock falling? Fucking Americans work for me!
F-35 list : puppets of USA
cuck
>>59299862
>people were thinking they were first world countries without war in 1938
???
>>59300322
You got rid of the commies though so better times are ahead Joao
>>59300350
Because they're afraid of being called racists
>>59299533
Seems weird. I recognize that I don't understand concepts of modern warfare but who needs in aircrafts in nuclear age?
>>59300080
> We were always gonna buy that plane
> Denmark population: 5.6 million buys 28 planes
> Norway population 5.1 million buys 56 planes and makes stealth missiles like JSM which is the only powered anti-ship missile that will fit inside the F-35's internal bays
Still Denmark is best ally...
>>59300401
Salute muh boobs
>>59300460
>implying Brazil is getting better any time soon
>>59300401
Because fuck you.
>>59300460
Yeah, still lots of dificulties.
>>59300401
Yeah it's not like favelas full of zika and criminals and a forest full of stone age niggers is worth invading.
>>59300350
Making flippant remarks isn't answering my question my question. Don't deflect.
Why should I trust your opinion that'll never be another war ever again?
>>59300590
You are the one deflecting my question, Mohammed.
>>59300590
t. Armchair general autist
>>59300515
Norway too soft with ruskies.
(Stoltenberg is gay)
>>59300676
he is just butthurt, because their barn democracy (literally) elected not to buy the same planes :D
>>59300657
No, you made a statement and I'm asking you to substantiate it. That's not deflecting.
>>59300676
So you too believe that war is factual possibility?
>>59300566
You goyim want latest Python 5 missiles?
You bought some Python 4's back in 2011 but they're getting a bit old
We charge fair prices
>>59300722
*impossibility
>>59299910
they'll never sink Japan
>>59300750
Nah thanks, nowadays we make our own.
Thanks for the .30mm cannons for Guarani tho.
>>59299739
>2 planes
You are pretending to be retarded, right?
>>59300844
Japan stronk
There's quite a few good resources/videos on why 5th Gen is important, but one of the more interesting is this guy. The conference is actually in Copenhagen, where there was a symposium on next gen platforms.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxK6O5--9Z0
>>59300697
Stoltenberg is Secretary General of NATO now, so we are all fucked (except you).
>>59300992
And these:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtZNBkKdO5U
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyHlp7tJrxY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31oJIo8EVwY
>>59300992
Dude, stop it.
You better listen what your next POTUS has to tell you.
We should sell a couple to New Zealand. Poor little guys don't have a single working fighter craft.
>>59299533
>have an edge against Russia
this this this
>>59299662
how many tons of kung pow chicken can this thing carry?
Buy Piranha missile pls.
>>59298315
>It has:
>Met
>Milestones
That is the most ridiculous infographic I have ever seen.
I'll post this, just for that pic
http://theweek.com/articles/601080/americas-everything-fighter-jet-total-disaster
>>59299662
Because it's cheaper and faster to buy American tech from Israel than develop your own.
>>59302356
Conflating the F-35 program with the F-35 itself is a common mistake people make.
The project was managed horribly and has significant cost overruns, in addition to being behind schedule.
Despite that, the plane itself is shaping up to be only as expensive as other 4.5 gen platforms, while outperforming them in the relevant metrics of the future battlefield. Once the kinks are worked out, of course.
>>59302675
You cant separate the program from the plane. Cost effectiveness is a primary thing about war.
>Once the kinks are worked out, of course.
Meaning never. Whenever Lockheed makes an empty promise, the Congress gives is more money. Then they use a portion of that cash to pay off Congress. So it goes, the more of a disaster that plane is, the more money the make.
They will not be able or willing to fullfil any of their promises.
Even if f35 by some magic turns into a decent plane, it'll be too expensive to use against anyone with real air defences.
Sukhoi 5th gen is likely to cost half as much as f35. I would expect it to be better too.
>>59293495
on the fence here wew
http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/robert-work-f35-canada-1.3485473
>>59303035
>Cost effectiveness is a primary thing about war.
This isn't 2010. As the plane shifts into LRIP, it's costs have been falling, and are projected to continue falling. Claims are being made the program will hit 85m by 2019, engine included. That makes it price-competitive with existing platforms like the Rafale and the Eurofighter.
>it'll be too expensive to use against anyone with real air defences
Stealth, integrated battle management, and sensor fusion isn't a meme.
>Sukhoi 5th gen is likely to cost half as much as f35. I would expect it to be better too
The PAKFA (whenever it moves from prototype phase and gets the appropriate engine) will cost perhaps 1/3rd less, while not being a true 5th gen platform, being essentially a more powerful Su-35. Turn radius is irrelevant when dealing with a missile you can't avoid fired by a plane you can't see.
>>59293495
Noice choice Denmark.
>>59302356
But it's 8x more effective than legacy fighters.
>>59303138
The Liberals are so fucking stupid
>Before being elected
>waahhh F15's are bad we don't need them
>After being elected
>oh, I guess F15's aren't too bad afterall and we sort of need them
>>59303988
>F15's
Whoops.
F35's*
>>59302356
>everything-fighter-jet-total-disaster
it's not nokia, or russia.
>>59300510
Because it's very unlikely to go nuclear, and there's already ballistic missile defences.
The F-35 is better at S/DEAD (Suppress/Destroy Enemy Air Defences) than practically everything bar the F-22.
You can't disband your entire military and expect nobody to invade just because you have nukes.
>>59293495
Buy the Eurofighter and gib moneys, Denmark.
1st warning. After that, I'll call Gunther.
Also, in the end it will serve just as well in the only action it will ever see; bombing some bridge or patrolling the skies of Bungastan unopposed in an Murican-led freedom-fighting coalition.
>>59304617
I mean it's just wasting of money in country like yours. Russian through the whole history gets in fight with somebody and this rational way that we have a huge army which we can use in local conflict without using nukes. When does Ireland was in war to justify buying an F-35?
>>59305042
Ireland is not buying the F35.
>>59305341
It was example
>>59305419
Because even a token resistance, is still resistance.
>countries that probably will never use them are buying
Why not just Eurofighter or Gripen?
>>59304904
lmao, the rent-a-jet?
Nah we're good
![jbbbwvhi7a9rej7tf2rg[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/sUqo41a.jpg "jbbbwvhi7a9rej7tf2rg[1].jpg")
>>59305762
>countries that probably will never use them
why not? Putin has demonstrated that he thinks the baltic sea is within Russia's sphere of influence.
>>59299589
Don't laugh, Finland will follow. Trust me!
>>59305866
As you want.
Gunther, proceed to apply german reasoning with the danskjavlar.
>>59305976
Well, everybody knows that Russia doesn't have the military for a full scale war right now and probably won't have for the next 20 years.
It's ok to see countries like US, UK and France(???) getting it. But seeing countries like Italy or Norway it's just a huge waste of money? What will noraway do with it? Hunt whales?
>>59305976
Emm, we at least border the Baltic sea, what was your ship doing there?
>>59305762
The argies tried to buy a couple of Gripens recently but some of the components are made here so we told Sweden no.
>>59300992
>>59303720
I don't care what it does, it looks like a fuggin spaceship. So cool.
>>59307559
We sold them MANSUP(same as exocet) missiles instead.
>>59308376
Good, it's not sporting to hit an unarmed man.
>>59308557
Even though i have no idea what they fly now.
>>59294357
Not for long when Trump is going to make countries pay for their own military
>>59306892
We were asked to come there by the Baltic nations.
Something countries do when a border country threatens them.
>>59308682
The same fighters from 30 years ago.
>>59309062
Mirage III?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUZu8bvxJs4
Not so long ago their army commander came here to a visit.
>>59309193
And they could have F35s outfitted with the latest in Kong technology and they will still be wiped out.
Are you an argy immigrant or something?
>>59309380
No, why?
>>59309454
You seem to be really trying to antagonise.
>>59309532
Nope, just asking, they still fly Mirage III?
>>59309532
chill m8, he's just asking
>>59305762
>eurofighter
Costs almost as much as the F-35, significantly less capable.
>gripen
Joke of a plane meant for third world countries, essentially a less capable F-16.
lmao the F-35 is better than what 90% of countries have even in it's beta state
the F-35 is basically supposed to replace one of the most reliable fighters on the planet, of course it's going to cost alot
i think eurofighter is better, and it is 4th generation.
other american shit like the f22.
>>59312860
Well, your opinion isn't factual.
>>59312860
Explain why you think the Eurofighter is better
>fat35
>eurocuckters
Should have bought Rafales
>>59313656
Even worse than Gripens
>>59314037
1 rafale = 2 f35 = 20 grippen
Fact
>>59314111
do u have proofs
>>59314111
1 eurofucker= 12 rafale= 20 f35= 3456 grippens
>>59293495
>>59298315
>mfw my country involved in this shitty fiasco called f-35 multirole "swiss army knife" fighter.
>mfw all of this manpower, research and development went to this piece of shit
fuck you America last decent fighter of yours was f-16 why you can't even develop fighter jets anymore. reeeeeeee
>>59293495
Welcome based vikings
>>59294196
Denmark isn't that big and it's not like they're under immediate threat either.
>>59302446
true, The eternal 5th column strikes again
>>59314322
F-35 is better than the Eurofighter and F-16
>>59299910
when will the next multi-role strike fighter be made? what will it look like? will it be human piloted, remotely piloted, or autonomous?
>>59299417
Mehmets are involved in F35 development, ya know?
>>59299543
You mean they bought the most direct replacement for their F-16 fleet, with the longest remaining service life?
What a shock...
>>59300322
Too bad Gripen NGs are $100 million apiece.
>>59293495
Reporting.
>>59293495
F35s for our new carrier, reporting in.
>>59305762
Because both are more expensive, less capable overall, and have a shorter remaining useful service life.
IC4 scandal part 2: electric bogaloo coming up 2bh
>>59293495
Such a waste of money.
>>59315983
What was your other option unless you wanted something that was going to be obsolete much, much sooner?
>>59305976
We should join nato just to piss of Russia
>>59299910
Hahahaha.
A few inferior chink copies of the F-35 against the real thing.
Good fucking luck.
