http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/668135/Royal-Navy-unprecedented-actions-ordered-US-sub-stuck-Gibraltar-row
>Last week it emerged that a Royal Navy patrol boat fired warning flares across the bow of the Spanish vessel during the altercation just outside Gibraltar waters.
>It has now been revealed that the Royal Navy’s unprecedented actions were ordered by USS Florida’s no-nonsense captain Nathan Martin who warned the Royal Navy to sort the situation out or he would intervene.
>It was the first of two such actions by Spanish vessels that day.
>The second, in British waters, involved a Garda Civil police boat.
>Last night Admiral Lord West, former First Sea Lord, said: “Nuclear submarines are very unmanoeuvrable when they are on the surface, and it is very stupid for the Spanish vessel to go in close like that. The Spanish clearly resent the Americans using Gibraltar, but this is not the way for a fellow EU and Nato member to behave.”
What are the Spanish police trying to prove?
Probably some cheeky idiot in the submarine going "lol let's see if the Brits get mad"
Just Banter
it's like that poor 40 year old man who doesn't shower and still goes to clubs trying to pick up college students. He leaves lonely and depressed every night, but he'll do whatever it takes to pretend that he still has a shot at being relevant.
>>59149324
This desu
>>59149414
wtf are you even talking about
>>59149309
What do you mean by that?
The Spanish vessel was trying to get into the way of the submarine.
This is so annoying... and always appears in UK newspapers
confiscate the submarine
turn the captain and crew into homosexual sex slaves.
WAR ! WAR ! WAR !
>>59160224
Will France stand with the UK?
>>59149183
They want the rock back.
>>59160346
Of course !
If deus le vult, we will finally take our rightful clay (aka "Catalonia")
>>59149183
We're just trying to get you guys to bomb the rock yourselves.
>>59161053
That's our colony, though.
>>59161053
Pls no, Spanish incompetence actually helped us, French will destroy our language and culture (again).
>>59161246
Ours.
>>59161394
what do you mean by again?
>>59161394
CRUSH CULTURES
DESTROY LANGUAGES
Hopefully this eventually leads to us carpet bombing the fuck out of Spain
>>59161480
You lost them twice to us.
They're our colony.
>>59149183
reconquista
and its about time
Why is there a fucking nuclear submarine in Gibraltar anyway?
>>59161537
They destroyed the culture and language of Catalunya Nort (North Catalonia), plus Occitan, Breton and all the other regional languages. Ille de France is some evil shit.
>>59161872
First on pic related, when Aragón conquered it.
Then on the 1800s
>>59149183
>Last week it emerged that a Royal Navy patrol boat fired warning flares across the bow of the Spanish vessel during the altercation just outside Gibraltar waters.
So US Navy can give orders to the Royal Navy?
>>59161876
there was also the time you lost an entire colonized continent to cannibal indios
>>59162088
>cannibal indios
To Criollo traitors and an invasion from a "friendly" country*
And that wasn't Cataluña nor Aragón, since those Crowns weren't allowed control there since they were Castillian colonies.
>>59162088
The Criollos (the ones than Started all the revolts) were mainly from Spanish stock, the only think was than weren't born in the peninsula so they couldn't get the Viceroy and upper caste jobs. The Indios and Nigs were mainly Royalist (because fueros and shit) at the start of the revolt.
>>59162060
We can give orders to anyone.
>>59162340
I'm pretty sure that if Americans ram a Spanish navy vessel, which it is, nato has to defend Spain.
>>59162406
We are NATO
>>59162340
I mean really, the fucking British Royal Navy taking orders from other cunts it's kinda lame.
Even if it's the US, you don't take the shit like that.
>>59161938
>Aragon
These guys ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Muret
>>59162340
Not really. I had to do a double take because I didn't think other cunts would take orders from a US military vessel. I don't think the US plans to take Spain though. Sounds like it was sour Spanish grapes.
>>59162406
Approaching a nuclear submarine like that is just asking for trouble.
>>59162456
In reality, the UK already gave the sub clearance to dock in Gibraltar. The sub was in UK waters, which it was cleared for, and the Spanish vessel decided to show its ass.
The dialogue probably went more like:
"So are you guys gonna do something about these pricks? Because I'm about to ram them."
"No worries m8, we'll put a few flares across their bow"
"Thanks"
"Cheers m8 thanks m8 take care goodbye! Bye!"
>>59162060
Lol more like the Spanish ship was hassling a US sub in international waters and could do fuck all about it and had to beg the Royal Navy for help.
>>59162835
It didn't happen in Gibraltar waters. Give back Gibraltar Anglo scum or we will send the goat of our Legion to take it.
>>59162838
Etiquette and maritime law provides for those that have ownership of the water (if any) to sort the problem unless they physically or practically can't.
>>59162835
>>59162838
Oh i see. It looked like that the US commander actually ordered the Royal Navy captain to attack.
>>59162972
He was just impatient, which is typical of most Americans in comparison with Euros.
WE WARN YOU ABOUT LAS MALVINAS ARGENTINAS; YOU WOULDNT LISTEN
THIS IS THE RESULT
>>59163088
Well. That kinda sucks and might even fuck the relations with other navies around the world desu.
>>59163136
:^)
>>59162478
Yes, those guys.
They still controlled Cataluña after that, and did so for several centuries.
As a matter of fact, Spain has controlled that territory for longer than France has.
>>59162950
Yeah I know I wasn't really being serious. Although the sub was still in international waters at that time so I'm not sure it was the British responsibility to act, sounds like the Spanish were just being pricks and knew there wasn't much an unsubmerged sub could do about it. You'd expect a close ally to assist especially if you're docking in one of their bases.
>>59163195
>Last night Admiral Lord West, former First Sea Lord, said: “Nuclear submarines are very unmanoeuvrable when they are on the surface, and it is very stupid for the Spanish vessel to go in close like that. The Spanish clearly resent the Americans using Gibraltar, but this is not the way for a fellow EU and Nato member to behave.”
What else can you do with a country that acts like a petulant child that doesn't like what you do in a territory that isn't even its own? If they hate it so much it should be brought up on diplomatic levels, not through childish displays on the high seas.
>>59163274
the british ship was providing escort to the sub.
considering that is the job of the escort, to ward off potential threats, it kinda was the british responsibility to act.
>>59163356
Yeah you're right.
Spanish genes... messing with people who they can't top.
>>59163274
It's literally the job of escort vessels to sort problems like this, no matter the nationality.
t. former Sailor
>>59161792
Americans have a nuclear submarines everywhere. Global shipping lanes ain't gonna keep itself open.
>>59163356
I'd like to see the Spanish side of the argument, because you anglos tend to say "international waters/Gibraltar waters" but the Spanish say you're entering Spanish waters.
I don't believe any of you, because both the Royal Army and the Spanish Army have been arguing over that worthless rock for centuries.
bost bawts from ur cunt.
>>59149183
should have retaliated with nukes
fuck spane
>>59163537
If the sub was coming back from a Eastern Med/Horn of Africa deployment (which it likely was) for a port visit in Gibraltar, it would have been very easy not to enter Spanish waters, and I can assure you they wouldn't if they didn't have to.
>>59163764
REMEMBER THE MAINE
>>59163729
>>59163379
>>59163422
Was there an escort? Because the craft that fired the warning shot was a small patrol vessel and the first report of this story last week said that it was dispatched because of the incursion and not that it had already met the sub to provide escort.
>>59163867
FUCKING ANGLO SCUM YOU JEWISH LIARS
>>59163867
WE DIN DU NUFFIN
![RoughRiders[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/wINGC17.jpg "RoughRiders[1].jpg")
>>59163956
Say that to my face fucker and not online and see what happens
>>59164072
>Internet tough guy
>>59163909
The British patrol vessel was the escort and fired the flares across the bow of the spanish vessel
>>59164072
You can't even speak to a Guardia Civil, dumbass.
Spain needs to start a second empire. You guys can have Mexico
>>59164012
>>59164409
U.S.S Iowa
>>59164383
You wouldn't let that happen now that you have caught their balls with the fucking NAFTA.
>>59164553
That's a big bawt.
>>59164553
Isn't this one of the ships that the U.S used to humiliate Saddam in the first gulf war
>>59164636
For you.
>>59164650
Yep. The Iraqis were terrified of the shells from its main guns.
Mt. Fuji in the background in pic related.
>>59164693
>>59164693
I just loved how they got a 60 year old ship parked it outside his line of death and shelled Baghdad
>>59162835
>The sub was in UK waters
Gibraltar doesn't have waters
>>59165242
>This butthurt Spaniard again
>>59162838
It was in Spanish waters fucking chav
>>59149414
What if he's trying to find a date for his nephew?
>>59165269
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3MfWTYsTG4
One day...
>>59164778
nice ramp
>It's another "Spain gets butthurt about Gibraltar while doing the exact same thing to Morroco" thread
At least the Argies aren't hypocrits.
>>59165595
We ain't cucks.
>>59165654
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
I can't stand your ignorance, how the fuck can you compare both situations? Now I understand why a lot Brits even think that Gibraltar is an island
>>59164148
>The British patrol vessel was the escort
There wasn't an escort. They dispatched a small border patrol vessel when the problem arose.
>>59165959
You have to give it back
>>59166117
Back to who? Portugal?
>>59166183
This
>>59164553
>tfw Iowa doujins in summer
n o i c e
>>59166308
Iowa is best shipsloot
Pic related, Iowa on the Iowa.
>>59149183
>>59161053
>>59161394
>>59161876
Daily reminder that Albion betrayed us, the Catalans.
http://www.international-view.cat/PDF/civ%204/civ%204%20A%20Short%20Story%20from%20History.pdf
>>59167640
>The Catalans, the Catalanas, the Catalans...
It was a civil war, there were Bourbon supporters in Cataluña
>>59165242
>>59165290
No, it's Gibraltar waters and it's recognised by the UN.
>>59165971
Why do you lie?
A submarine has an escort when coming into a harbor. The British ship was there to escort the US sub.
>>59166117
To the Spanish Empire, you mean?
>>59168993
The UN also recognise that Gibraltar is a colony HYPOCRITE
>>59163234
We can still claim it pêh...
>>59168993
>it's recognised by the UN.
The same organization that has it under "territory to be decolonized", just like with the Spanish Sahara not long ago.
>>59169132
And we'll take it back after you kill all remnants of Catalan culture.
>>59169120
>>59169193
The UN recognised it as a colony during the FUCKING 60s! More then 50 years ago!
Before they accepted it as a state with rights.
>(1) The 1958 Convention on the Territorial Seas and Contiguous Zone has been applied to Gibraltar. It provides (Article 1) that the Sovereignty of a State extends beyond its land territory to a belt of sea adjacent to its coast. Spain did not enter any reservation to the above, such as would relieve her of the legal effects of this provision. The Treaty of Utrecht is totally irrelevant to the legal effect of the 1958 Convention.
> mfw the spaniards will NEVER have gibraltar
> mfw the argentinians will NEVER have the falklands
> mfw the irish will NEVER have northern Ireland
>>59162692
>It was asking for it
Sexist af tbhfam
>>59169193
I don't want their culture to die
Nowadays, we would not let it die btw
>>59169252
>mfw Britain will NEVER be white
>>59169225
>that the Sovereignty of a State extends beyond its land territory to a belt of sea adjacent to its coast.
You see, the same organization STILL considers it a non-self-governing territory and it is listed on the "decolonization committee".
This committee doesn't even have Ceuta and Melilla on them.
how did Spain give up Gibraltar is beyond me
>>59169407
While on a Civil War, you do some retarded stuff.
>>59169308
Then they would want independence, just like they are asking for now.
Next time, we nuke Madrid.
>>59162088
IRL, during Latin Americans secessionist movements it was primarily the criollos that wanted to leave Spanish rule, largely because they themselves wanted to rule. The Indians were largely loyalists because the criollos typically treated them far worse than the peninsulares. The Spanish crown had laws allowing certain rights to the Natives while the white Latin Americans, especially land owners were the people who were actively enslaving and fucking with natives.
>>59169405
How can you "decolonise" a self-governing territory, with its own constitution and referendum?
>>59169322
>mfw Brtain will NEVER be great
>>59169698
>white Latin Americans
CHI
CA
NO
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_list_of_Non-Self-Governing_Territories
Because it's not a sefl-governing territory.
You still haven't said who we have to give Melilla back to, though.
>>59169755
White Latinos are very real. I would know, as I am one.
>>59169755
>this faggot doesn't even know about castas
>>59149183
The third one will be dropped on spain
>>59169548
No way. I love Spaniards.
>>59169755
I see white Latinos every day. They drive shitty old pickup trucks with Sinaloa stickers on the window and listen to god awful corridos.
>>59169870
>no te entiendo
Top banter
>>59169793
I'm already looking at that.
But how can you call those territories non-self governing, when they consider themselves self-governing?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_list_of_Non-Self-Governing_Territories#Criticism
>>59169870
Thank dog that we were proto-nazis. Limpieza de sangre is best limpieza.
>>59169864
>>59169870
>>59169928
Repeat it with me:
CHI
CA
NO
>>59169977
Most White Hispanics I've interacted with are Northern Mexicans and they act like niggers.
This >>59169928 is pretty accurate.
>>59162900
Just take it, I'd love to see you cunts try.
>>59169959
The reason I'm posting these links is because you brought up the UN, as if that were the end all be all government in this cases. Not even they know what to consider what because the UN is a joke; they still consider the Sahara to be legally Spanish, for crying out loud.
I'm not even that interested in Gibraltar, but whenever a Brit puts it in the same page as Melilla, I get triggered.
>>59169870
>>59170025
>Most White Hispanics I've interacted with are Northern Mexicans and they act like niggers.
Well, I made the reference to the Limpieza as a good thing for Spaniards, not latin-americans.
>>59170086
For the record, I've never brought up Melilla.
All that really matters is how the people of Gibraltar feel.
>>59170181
>All that really matters is how the people of Gibraltar feel.
To be honest I agree with this.
If Gibraltarians are happy with the U.K. I do not see much point in continuing this discussion.
>>59169870
>No te entiendo con india: torna atrás.
Wow, the Conquistadores had some laughs making these.
>>59169405
>the same organization STILL considers it a non-self-governing territory and it is listed on the "decolonization committee".
Gibraltar is about as self governing as spain is if they need to be ejected then do us a favour and eject yourselves from the fucking planet because this malvinas tier shit is getting really sad
>>59170181
>""""people""""
Yeah, at the end of the day, I don't care, even if they avoid taxes like the plague, but calling them people is a stretch; have you ever interacted with one of those creatures?
>>59170277
What if France controlled the Isle of Wight? Wouldn't that make you butthurt?
>>59162340
Untill you meet iran
>>59169747
*again
>>59149183
>First Sea Lord
Badass title 2bh.
>>59170332
If we willingly gave it up hundreds of years ago and they identified as spanish you might have a point
>there will never be a joint UK-US invasion of Spain
sad
>>59170446
*French
>>59170446
>you might have a point
>might
Even you are doubting your own stance. I don't mind the gibraltareños, I've already said that what bothers me is that you people compare it to Melilla. It was given during a Civil War under a government that didn't even have power over the whole country.
You know that's shady as fuck, specially when you have more water than you should ever have.
>>59170353
>entire iranian army barely captures one little boat
>you have more water than you should ever have.
what?
>>59170631
Look at the map posted earlier, you should have had a lot less. A way into and out of the Mediterranean, not that big a sea.
That's really what the Spaniards who complain about Gibraltar talk about, the fact that you got much more water than you should have, making the fishermen in Cádiz lose a fuck tone of money.
>>59170980
Why don't y'all actually put money into your navy and do something about it?
Spain is no where near as incompetent as Argentina.
>>59171596
>yank suggesting about blocking commercial shipping
Lolno
Your own government guarantees the free movement of trade for all shipping.
>>59164783
they didn't shell baghdad. the maximum range of those guns is 24 miles. they shelled an area of the iraqi coast to make iraq think we were about to plan an amphibious invasion which would force saddam to pull forces from other areas (that we were actually going to invade) to defend the coast.
>>59170311
Why are you such a huge statist
>>59170353
>>59149183
That all reminds me of that joke about americam carrier and spanish beacon.
>NATO WILL COLLAPSE IN YOUR LIFETIME
>>59149414
that's oddly specific anon, do you have something you want to say?
>>59165959
Ceuta, give it back to the moroccans.
A reminder that Canada, Great Britain and Ireland did actually go to war with Spain and the EU in 1994:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbot_War
>>59149183
>American sub captain ordering British captain to do something
JUST
>>59178526
The eternal anglo. :^)
