Daily reminder that Russia was founded by a Finnish man.
>Rurik was a Finnic Kven, i.e. he was "Finnish", in similar way an average Savonian, Tavastian or a member of some other Finnish tribe is Finnish. Rurik was the founder of the early stage of what gradually became Russia, and his descendants ruled what today is known as "Russia" well beyond the Middle Ages.
>The results of the Rurikid DNA study referred to below are not surprising, considering that other DNA studies and other evidence point to Finnic people having inhabited the modern area of Sweden for thousands of years, including the modern-day area of Southern Sweden:
>• "The hunter-gatherers show the greatest similarity to the modern-day Finns", says Pontus Skoglund, an evolutionary geneticist at Uppsala University in Sweden, about ancient skeletal remains excavated in Gotland: http://gotland.3000.BC.kvenland.org
>This DNA study is consistent with Roslagen in the northeastern corner of Uppland, a suggested birthplace of Rurik, having represented the southern border region of the land inhabited by Finno-Ugric people at the time of Rurik's birth.
>The DNA study also supports the view that Rurik descended from the Finnish-Kven royal ancestry introduced in many medieval accounts, similarly to many other members of the Scandinavian-Fennoscandian royal Yngling Dynasty, a.k.a. the Fairhair Dynasty.
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>>59018498
Finland should become part of Russia.
STABBEDY STAB :DDD
>Finns at it again with the Kvenland meme
Like clockwork.
>>59018498
well, I'm ok with it
>Yngling Dynasty
>Yngling
They were Chinese?
>>59018498
>"In wonderful savageness live the nation of the Fenni, and in beastly poverty, destitute of arms, of horses, and of homes; their food, the common herbs; their apparel, skins; their bed, the earth; their only hope in their arrows, which for want of iron they point with bones. Their common support they have from the chase, women as well as men; for with these the former wander up and down, and crave a portion of the prey. Nor other shelter have they even for their babes, against the violence of tempests and ravening beasts, than to cover them with the branches of trees twisted together; this a reception for the old men, and hither resort the young. Such a condition they judge more happy than the painful occupation of cultivating the ground, than the labour of rearing houses, than the agitations of hope and fear attending the defense of their own property or the seizing that of others. Secure against the designs of men, secure against the malignity of the Gods, they have accomplished a thing of infinite difficulty; that to them nothing remains even to be wished."
>This description is of a lifestyle much more primitive than that of the medieval Sami, who were pastoralists living off herds of reindeer and inhabiting sophisticated tents of deer-hide. But the archaeological evidence suggests that the proto-Sami and Proto-Finns had a lifestyle more akin to Tacitus' description
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenni
>>59019248
Yes, actually.
Ragnar Lodbrok was a chink.
>>59019248
Descendants of the god Frej. Come on, Guiseppe.
>>59019279
Ragnar Lodbrok belonged to the Scylding dynasty. His son Björn Ironside founded the house of Munsö.
>>59019350
It does sound like a Chinese word though.
>>59018498
I think it wouldn't be much of an overstatement to say that most Russians' ancestors are Finno-Ugrics who adopted Slavic language and culture. So yeah, we are related.
>>59019175
Russia should become a part of Finland
>>59019452
Yes, but IIRC according to the saga, he also fathered someone from the Ynling dynasty, but maybe I'm wrong.
>>59019603
It's not like we really object. Just don't lose any of the new clay you get, it's really important to us.
>>59019273
Fenni referred to Sami, not Finns.
>>The Germanic literature is mentioning Finns starting from the 600s. The oldest source, Widsith from the 600s, lists out tens of Migration period kings from the 400-500s. It mentions: Caesare weold Graecum, ond Caelic Finnum” * ”Caesar (translators note: emperor, not J.C) reigned Greeks and Caelic the Finns”. The well-known academic Kustaa Vilkuna thought that Caelic was gothic version from word 'Kaleva' (Gothic ending –ik).
>"The poem contains a brief mention of the king of the Finns, Caelic. The poem also mentions Scridefinns separately, which has been interpreted to mean Lapps. Widsith is the first text in which a clear distinction is made between these two."
>>59019206
Stay mad, Sven.
>>59018498
He was swedish becouse rus' was a swedish tribe.
>>59019916
Swedish propaganda desu senpai
>>59019916
Did you even read OP's post?
>This DNA study is consistent with Roslagen in the northeastern corner of Uppland, a suggested birthplace of Rurik, having represented the southern border region of the land inhabited by Finno-Ugric people at the time of Rurik's birth.
>>59020059
Illuminati confirmed?
>>59020294
>According to the most prevalent theory, the name Rus', like the Finnish name for Sweden (Ruotsi), is derived from an Old Norse term for "the men who row" (rods-) as rowing was the main method of navigating the rivers of Eastern Europe, and that it could be linked to the Swedish coastal area of Roslagen (Rus-law) or Roden, as it was known in earlier times.[6][7] The name Rus' would then have the same origin as the Finnish and Estonian names for Sweden: Ruotsi and Rootsi.[8]
how did Rurik, a Finnic man and his ancestors survive the onslaught of the great Hwan massacre of 482 of the Kvenonian Finngol tribe by Hwan Attila?
>>59018498
Rurik was Swedish though.
>>59020543
>The terms "Rus", "Ruotsi" and "Russia" allegedly derive from the same origins. Historically, and up to date, the Finnish people inhabiting the eastern side of the Gulf of Bothnia have referred to the area on the western side of the gulf by the term "Ruotsi".
>During the 9th century, the people known as Rus' are believed to have inhabited vast majority of the area known to the Finns as "Ruotsi", which today in English is referred to as Sweden.
>As the map attached >>59019806
from the Texas University correctly points out, a vast majority of today's Sweden was during the 9th century a part of Kvenland.
>Accordingly, this supports the view promoted for centuries by historians that the Rus' were Finnish (such historians discussed further below). The findings of recent DNA studies conducted on the Rurikid family members also support this view (findings discussed further below).
Everything else is just pure speculation, including that retarded etymology.
>>59020699
You wish.
>>59020894
He was too badass to be a finn. Why would beg some finn to became their master?
>>59021000
Not really, I don't care about some dude 1200 years ago. Just putting the facts straight.
so hol up *plays bylina/rune on gusli/kantele* so you be sayin *worships perun/ukko* so you be sayin *opens new vodka* so you be sayin we are fins and shit??
>>59021064
Say that to me IRL and see what happens
Yea, he was literally Swedish.
>>59021242
You will cry like a bitch and give me all your money and smartphone?
>>59021064
Because Slavs and Germanics acknowledged the superiority of the Turanian Finns.
>>59021072
The arrogance of the Svecoman is unbelievable. Even when faced with irreputable evidence he still keeps on repeating his lies.
>>59021507
irrefutable*
>>59021507
Say it like it is brother
