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Let's play a game /int/ How degenerated the name of your country from their ancient original name until the actual name in your language?

Ex: Hispania>Ispania>Spania>Espania>Espanna>España
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>>58932178
>Éiru (a goddess)
>Éire (irish word for ireland named after Éiru)
completely unrecognisable
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>Kanata (Huron-Iroquois word meaning village or settlement)
>Canada (some French dude didn't know what else to call the area so he went with Canada for the whole area)
That's..pretty much it really
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Pindorama>Ilha de Vera Cruz>Terra Nova>Terra dos Papagaios>Terra de Vera Cruz>Terra de Santa Cruz>Terra Santa Cruz do Brasil>Terra do Brasil>Brasil
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>>58932203
Hard work
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>>58932392
for what purpose?
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Separate islands were given different names by the Arawaks. Guanahani is believe to be modern San Salvador for example
>The Columbus came along and named the area Baja Mares (Spanish for low seas)
>Eventually became Anglicized into what it is today: Bahamas
Wish I knew the original arawak names for the islands.
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Argentum (silver) --> Argentina
gg ez
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>>58932435
The first is the indigenous name and the others seem that the portuguese are very undecided
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>>58932178
Ísland.
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Tourkia>Turchia>Turquie>Turkey>Türkiye

Something like that
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>>58932178
Mona>Manaw>Manau>Mano>Mön>Manainn>Vannin>Mannin>Mann>Man>Isle of Man.
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>>58932527
I never understood this. We're taught that Argentina comes from the word for silver, but then learn that la plata is the word for silver. I've never heard of that synonym for silver. But wasn't the country known as La Plata at one point?
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The British Empire>The United States
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>>58932673
La Plata is Spanish for silver. All of their plates (plata) were made of silver I guess?
Argentina is just the back formation because the root argent- means silver in Spanish
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>>58932758
Which was better?
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>>58932673
The idea comes from Río de la Plata (Silver River) this explains why Argentina comes from argentum
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>>58932799
In Latin I mean. I'm kinda drunk
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Sons of Israel > Tribes of Israel > Kingdom of Israel > State of Israel

Wew, changed a lot past 3000 years.
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Meztlixitli -> Mexicali -> Mexica ->México
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>>58932178
>United States of America
>United States of America

Seems legit
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Cristoforo Colombo > Colombia
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>>58932392
>Pindorama

top kek.
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>>58933349
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Chilli -> Chile

or

Tili -> Chili -> Chile
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United States of America --> Confederate States of America ---> United States of America
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>>58932203
>your country
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>>58933851
Yeah apparently it was inca for "land of the losers" or something
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>>58933587
Wasn't it Nueva Granada or something?
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>>58933287
Israel (meaning "The One Who Would Wrestle an Angel")
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San Diego --> San Diego

Wish I was from LA so I could say

Iyaanga (Tongva for "poison oak place") --> Bahia de las Fumas ("bay of smokes") --> El Pueblo de Nuestra Senora la Reina de los Angeles de Porciuncula ("the town of our lady queen of the angels of Porciuncula (a church in Italy where the Franciscan order was founded)") --> Los Angeles.
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>>58936114
Quinetucket --> Connecticut
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Svíþjóð-Swerike-Svearike-Swerighe-Swerghe/Swirghe/Swirge-Sverige. This is all based on the middle part of Sweden though, Svealand (Land of the Svears. An old ass tribe)
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>>58936114
>San Diego de Alcala

"California" comes from a Spanish LN-tier novel about a black Amazon queen named Califia. It was basically named by proto-weebs.
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>>58932178
The origin for the word Suomi is unknown. Too old.
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Obligatory post
I have no fucking idea what strong owner means
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>>58937357
>Military unit
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>>58932178
Well, It once was called Rossiya and since that it didn't change at all.
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>>58937357
>Lebanon
>White
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>>58932178
Lechia > Civitas Schinesghe > Grody Książęce > Polska

what the fuck
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>>58937357
>land of """""""""free men"""""""""""
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>>58937610
>adventures.
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>>58932178
>zagorski not it's own language
>it's all serbo-croatian

this map is nonsense
we actually barely understand Zagorski, and maybe even Čakavski for that matter
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yamato>Jippon/Nippon>Nihon/Nippon
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>>58937661
>seafarers
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>>58937357
>rich in lakes
???????
Plitvice?
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>>58937725
That's cool actually.
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virreinato del rio de la plata > provincias unidas del rio de la plata > federacion argentina > argentina > bolivia
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>>58932178
Źemē > Some/Soome > Suomi

Missed a few stages and the origin is a bit unclear. It probably comes from Proto-Baltic.
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>>58937783
Yea, it's total bullshit. Nobody knows.

>The origin of the name is uncertain, but is thought to be a Gothic or Indo-Aryan term assigned to a Slavic tribe.

According to Wikipedia
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>>58937933
>Žeme
In russian and most slavic languages, land is "zemlya", and baltic languages are related to slavic ones as far as I know and soumi means "land" so these words may be related.
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>>58937933
cool
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svea (“of the Swedes”) + rike (“realm”). From Old Swedish Sver(i)ghe, Sverike, Sværike.
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>>58932267

>Canada
>about as relevant as 1 village

That French dude ended up being correct
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>>58938009
The root of that word is really ancient. *zeme is present in Proto-Balto-Slavic so it's one of the original parts of your vocabulary.
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>>58936648
Its as if now they call a region Mordor or Tatooine.

The story is cool, it has griffins, duels, faith build powers, ISIS and Queen Califa is tsundere for the protagonist.
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>>58932954

They were both okay at their apexes

Holy shit, how do you pluralize apex?
vertex -> vertices
apex -> apices

God damn it why did you have to suck French cum in 1066?
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>>58938312

Moordor is already taken by your neighbor, Portugal
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>>58937818

>called seafarers
>spends entire history of country desperately annexing neighbors to have a warmwater port (Black Sea)

it's poetic
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>>58937933
Truth: No one knows the origin of the name. All the theories are just guesswork.
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Lietuva - Lietuva
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>>58932178
teuta -> diutisc -> deutsch

Deutschland
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>>58932178
>original name
???-> madjar (mongol word for us)-> modjer (mogyer)/moger -> magyar (meaning absolutely unknown)
+"country" in hungarian -> Magyarország

>foreign name:
onogur (ten arrows/ten tribes in turk)->ogur->uhor/ugor/ogur/ungar->Hungary, Hongrie, Hongarije (silent H added by romance languages, but some people vocalize it)
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>>58938734
Cool
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>>58938734
not really

>From Old Hungarian mogyër.

>The first element (mogy-) is likely from a Proto-Ugric *mańć- (“man, person”), also found in the name of the Mansi (mäńćī, mańśi, måńś). It may have also had a meaning of ‘speaker; messenger’. In this case, it may ultimately derive from Proto-Uralic *mënɜ- (“to say”), the original definition being preserved in magyaráz (“to explain”).
>The second element -ër ‘man’, retained in ember ‘man’ and férj (“husband”), is cognate with Mari erɣǝ, erɣe ‘son, boy’ and Finnish yrkö (“man”). It is from Proto-Uralic *irkä or *ürkä (“man, son, boy”)
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>>58938854
but the first appearance of the world was the mongol "madzsar"...
also the finno-ugric explanation is also just a conjecture, not proven
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>>58938734
The Uigurs where you?
All the time you where so near but I didn't know.

F-Father?
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>>58938734
>>58938792
>>58938982
>>58939016
WE ARE NOT TURKISH GO AWAY TURKSMELL
1526 NEVER FORGET
REEEEEE
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>>58939070
>hurr durr what is archaeology what is history
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>>58938982
>but the first appearance of the world was the mongol "madzsar"...

No
https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_%E2%80%9Emagyar%E2%80%9D_sz%C3%B3_etimol%C3%B3gi%C3%A1ja#A_.E2.80.9Emagyar.E2.80.9D_sz.C3.B3_korai_el.C5.91fordul.C3.A1sai

>also the finno-ugric explanation is also just a conjecture, not proven
Are you some meme turanist something? Of course nothing can be 100% proven in linguistics, but it's extremely likely that the word is finno-ugric.
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>>58937357
>Area Where There is Nothing
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>>58932178
Vlahia -> Valahia -> Rumânia -> România

something like that
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>>58937357
So many of these are hilarious, I cant even
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I think the first time it's mentioned it already goes by the name of Italia
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>>58937357
LAND OF THE SPEARS
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>>58932178
Ostarrîch-i>Österreich
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Boiohaemum>Bohemia>Czech Republic>Czechia

JUST
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Frankisch > Diets / Duits > Nederlands
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>>58940104
Oh that's how our language was called.

I don't think we had a country before the Netherlands. We had the Frisians. The Roman Empire. The Frankish empire. The Holy Roman Empire. And then there was the Netherlands.
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>>58932639
It comes directly from arabic Türkiyye/Türkiye/Türkiya.
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>>58940193
No you think Ataturk would choose an Arabic name for his country ? It comes directly from Medieval Latin sources than French than English
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Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland> Ísland
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Post dialect maps, faggots.

>>58932178
>Sloven (old name for Slovene people, later stolen by "Slavs") > Slovenija (land of the Slovenes)

>>58937670
>Zagorski
It's called Slovene.
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>>58932203
You can see clearly on that map that the name is Ireland
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>>58939619
Where? I don't spot it.
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>>58941797
>choose
Ataturk didn't chose it, Türkiye was already in use, informally. Especially in arabic texts, the parts were Turks live -within OE- was referred as Türkiye
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>>58943057
Angola.
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>>58943309
Yeah I already spotted it, thanks.
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Harahwatia-Horoathia-Horvatia-Horvatzka-Horvatska-Hrvatska (eng. Croatia)
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>>58937357
>Great place of barrels used to hold beverages
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>>58932178
Bulgaria>Bulgaria>Bulgaria>Bulgaria

comes from the Bulgars, a tribe of horseniggers that created it in 681
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Koryeo > Korea
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some fucking land of tribe Boii -> Sámova ríše (Samo's empire) -> Velká Morava (Great Moravia) -> Království České (Kingdom of Bohemia) -> české země (czech lands)-> [400 years pause thanks Austria] -> Československo (czechoslovakia) -> Česká republika (Czech rep.)
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>>58944085
do slovaks call themselves slovenes
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>>58944115
slovaks are calling themselves "Slováci", same in czech.
Slovenes are in czech "Slovinci". not sure how's that in their languages.
But i'm sure it doesn't overlap.
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>>58944256
doesnt slovenia and slovakia translate into slovenska and slovensko or something in your languages?
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>>58944297
slovensko versus slovinsko
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>>58932178
Gallaeci/Lusitania->Bracara Augusta->Regnum Suevorum(Kingdom of the Suebi)->Visigothic Kingdom->Portus Cale->Portugal
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>>58937357
>Kenya
>Mountain of whiteness
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>>58932178
Other names. Hesperia, Iberia, Al-ándalus.
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>>58937933
Whether or not it even is an ancient loan word from PIE is still up for debate and even then it's not clear if it's proto-baltic or an earlier form like žmuõ or latin homo. Truth is no one knows. Might as well be from "suomia" which apparently meant to fight.
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>>58932178
It was always called "Italia" but originally it was just the southernmost part
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