>poorgentina thinking they're relevant in the world.
when we said such thing?
Hell ! Why is Guiana so relevant ?
>>58910870
>french colony
I refuse to believe Finland has more power than Kazakhstan.
>>58910832
Rwanda is regional power, correct this.
We are literally the weakest non-micronation in Europe, kick us down a notch.
>>58910917
it's not mine.
>congolombia
>>58910907
>colony
it's consider a country's department even tho it's on the other side of the Atlantic. therefore French Guiana = France
weird frenchies
>>58910964
post sources
colombia is a shithole
>burgerland
>superpower
>>58911440
Yeah, they couldn't stop Russia from invading you.
Regional power, their region just happens to be Western Europe.
>>58911440
>Ukraine
>Middle Power
>>58911598
china's gdp per capita is way below 10k afaik
>>58910832
Italy has an higher GDP than Russia
>>58911686
Italy can't in warfare. Its map of power.
>>58911678
They make up for it with a huge population and large military though.
>>58911833
yeah, that was my point kinda
power =! money
>>58911382
Used to be*
I think Turkey is at least a regional power.
I didn't know it. Wow. That's the reason for vodka time!
>>58911939
it still is
drugs, violence, poverty, it has the full package
>>58911918
Yeah but Ukraine doesn't really have a big military, bad economy and not that large of a population. How are they a middle power?
>>58910832
>NK
>small power
then why are they so concerned?
>>58912060
>drugs, violence, poverty
Are you describing Argentina?
lol how is s korea a regional power?
>>58912060
It's not as bad as it was tho. Poverty levels here (20%) are lower than Argentina's (30% +).
>>58912354
gdp per capita col - 7k arg - 15k
i've seen the streets in bogota, even the poor people in palermo would be considered upper middle class there
>>58912240
Manufacturing powerhouse maybe?
>>58912354
You must be really naive to believe that friend
Y'all should unite against gringos instead of fighting each other. We should nuke Chile btw.
>K*rea
Hahaha
>>58912554
no and no
>>58912554
Chile is the only worth military in SA. They would curmbstomp the unorganized monkey troops of yours in a defence war
>>58912554
Why?
>>58911076
We did the same with Algeria IIRC
ANSCHLUSS FTW
>>58912354
>>58911939
So Colombia no longer has Africa-tier jungle armies rampaging through the countryside kidnapping and murdering people?
>>58912646
>>58912646
that's false
jesus christ you people do nothing but swallow memes
Turkey is definitely a regional power. At the very least we're more influential than Greece in the region.
>>58912461
>>58912442
Those are official statistics, I'm not making up those numbers.
GDP per capita is not a reliable number. It'd be better to compare GDP PPP per capita, which also takes into account local purchasing power. In this measure Argentina is still better positioned than Colombia.
However, there are 2 metrics that change everything dramatically: inflation and growth. Argentina has the second highest inflation in the world, while we've been in the 3-5% range for the past years.
Lastly, we've been growing at a healthy rate during the past decade, while Argentina has gone into recession and even defaulted on its debt. I really hope the outlook for your country improves with the new government.
>>58912602
You don't have choice portenõ, give in to the Brazilian Empire now.
>>58912646
kek
>>58912683
Why not? I don't expect filthy castilians to do more than kill hapless amerindians anyway.
>>58911076
>sources
it's from reddot.
>>58912060
>argentina still thinking they're better than us
hilarious.
you guys have literally 20% of starvation in childrens.
that map also takes into account military size, GDP and political regional power.
so shut up.
>>58912753
You know I am right. Chile is protected by the Andes and have the most disciplined army.
>>58912719
if you were asking 1998 colombia, then yes, we were african tier shithole.
if you ask about 2016 colombia, then no.
we'd improved a shit ton since then.
>>58913066
>what are missiles
>what is a Navy
>>58913053
blatantly false
>>58912719
the farc are still active
>>58912719
Murder rate for Colombia is 25/100.000 while it is 26/100.000 for Brazil. You'd be slightly safer here.
Also, Hollywood has done a great job depicting us as if we lived in a Jungle. The truth is you can find jungle in the southeastern part of the country, and less than 5% of the population lives there.
The vast majority of the population lives in the Andes mountain range. For example, my city is located at 2600m above sea level with an average annual temperature of 14° (roughly the same as Milan in Italy and just a bit colder than Madrid or Rome).
>>58913066
>You know I am right
We could take all SA together and still win easily m8. Winning a war against Chile is not debatable.
>>58912774
Nope :*
>>58913128
Lots places are investing in Colombia. It will probably the 2nd biggest economy in South America soon,and may experience an economic boom in the next couple of years
>>58913221
>be russian pilot
>get shot
LITERALLY CANNOT MAKE THIS SHIT UP LADS
>>58913206
Try comparing Colombia to Venezuela and then tell me if that website is reliable and up-to-date.
>>58913128
How safe is Bogota for white tourists? Could I visit other cities and not have to worry about being swamped by thugs?
>>58913218
>Implying that war is just numbers
Kek. No wonder that Brazil will never be a superpower.
What about a Brasil v Mexico war ?
Can you handle the removing of heads ?
>>58913261
they are still years behind brazil, arg, chile, uruguay, and even venezuela
there's a reason why venezuelans don't let colombians in their country
>>58910832
makes sense to me
>>58913281
that was uncalled for and mean
>>58913206
http://www.infobae.com/2015/09/10/1754259-cada-10-horas-muere-una-persona-desnutricion-la-argentina
LOL
you literally have our children starvation levels.
>>58913261
yeah, this is what people aren't seeing.
It's being projected colombia will surpass argentina before 2020.
>>58913313
The tourists places are pretty safe bro.
Unless you wanna go to Bogota slums you will be ok.
>>58913206
The FARC are active in remote jungle areas where literally no one ever goes to. Take a look at the list of the most violent cities in the world, which just came out btw. Only 3 colombian cities out 100 appear in the ranking. Even the U.S has more violent cities than us.
http://www.latintimes.com/worlds-most-dangerous-cities-caracas-tops-list-plus-other-latin-american-crime-filled-382188
>>58913281
https://youtu.be/_tndkK-NfDM
0:43
:3
>>58913438
>having cities in the list of the most dangerous places in the world
whoa only3 really 1st world, very nice
>>58913384
colombia has less than half the gdp of argentina
even less than venezuela
why are colombians so deluded
>>58913438
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdyEsDk9368
Didn' ur govt make some peace deal with them?
>>58913384
>Argentina GDP 2015: $585 billion
>Colombia GDP 2015: $290 billion
Are you purposefully being retarded?
>>58913360
The net inmigration with Venezuela is positive currently. Those countries are currently better,but Argentina has been stagnated for almost 40 years. And Colombia has been growing at a good rate for a couple of years.
>>58913518
Tried and Failed.
>>58913313
Not gonna happen as most tourists hang around the historic and upscale areas of the city. Lots of europeans and americans come here for tourism without any incidents.
You just gotta take the same precautions you would take in any big city, considering Bogota has 9 million inhabitants.
>>58913384
You cheeky cunt, how am I going to tell apart the slums apart from the rest of Bogota?
>>58913533
there hasn't been any stagnation you retard
>>58913343
You are the one implying that m8. Don't be delusional.
>>58913533
Colombia has been slowing for three years straight and is growing 3% maybe this year.
Argentina grew an average of 2% the last 3 years.
Argentina also has 2.4 fertility and immigrants from ParaGAY.
Even 2030 GDP rankings show Colombia behind Argentina.
Nice thread
>>58913533
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IMF_ranked_countries_by_past_and_projected_GDP_(nominal)
PPP is better for Argentina
>>58913360
Actually, It's the other way around. Venezuelans are flodding here by the thousands.
Regarding the economy, we're currently the 3rd largest in South America after Brazil and Argentina, and projections show that we're gonna take over you soon to become the 2nd largest.
Brazil is simply too big and is unrealistic to think that any other south american nation is gonna surpass them
Take a look at this report from Price Waterhouse Coopers:
https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/the-economy/assets/world-in-2050-february-2015.pdf
>france is the most relevant in SA
wew
>>58913766
Argentina used to be far better than the rest of South America. At one point it was argueably even better than the U.S.
How the mighty have fallen.
>>58913767
Those projections are way too far out to be accurate.
2020 IMF projections show Argentina ahead by $200 billion.
>>58913767
yeah, the same idiots that said we'd be worse than central america in 2010
>Finland has as much power with 5 million people as Nigeria with 182 million people and oil
I refuse to believe
>>58913732
>2011
Still impressive tho.
>>58913857
No and no.
Uruguay was the best. Argentina was 70-80% of America at it's height in 1900.
Are you guys sure Colombia's economic growth isn't just riding the population growth?
>>58913516
Venezuelan GDP per capita is inflated due to oil. The reality is that the average citizen won't see that money in their lifetime.
What's supernatural here? Even Lithuanians think they're revelant.
>>58913518
They're in peace talks with them in Habana and a peace deal is expected to be reached by the end of this year.
>>58913984
It mostly is.
Argentina and Colombia have had roughly the same per capita growth rate.
Argentina can unlock its potential with a better government. Even Macri is only a marginal improvement.
>>58913525
That is due to the exchange rate. Why don't you take a look at GDP PPP, which takes care of currency volatility. Argentina used to have currency control, artificially strenghtening their currency. That's why they used to have a parallel exchange rate.
>>58914026
Well the place is JUST tier right now.
In 2000-2013 it was arguably better than Colombia though.
Then Chavez died, government went full dysfunctional, and oil collapsed. Now the worst drought ever hit.
>>58913961
So was 98% of the world at that point. It was still richer than Austria, Italy, Norway, even Canada briefly. It had comparable living standards for the majority of its population. It was projected to be a serious challenge to American economic dominance had it not imploded.
>>58914166
That only marginally improves Colombia's percent/Argentina.
>>58913930
In some measures Argentina is worse than central america.Just look at Panama or Costa Rica if you don't believe me.
ITT: Self-deluded people arguing
>>58912646
>chile
>beat brazil in ANYTHING
I CANT BRETH
>>58913904
You think those projections are made up? They based their research on historic and global trends.
Argentina is a great country, which was one one the richest in the world at the turn of the century, but sadly has been brought to misery by leftits, same as Venezuela.
And that's not changing anytime soon as those ideologies are deeply rooted in their population.
>it's another south american shit flinging episode
lads
>>58913516
>>58913525
Colombia poverty line = 27%
Argentina poverty line = 24% (real data by private institutions).
argentinians bragging being first world is hilarious.
>>58913601
amount of white people living in that place versus niggers, dumbass.
>>58914196
We also have drought. We're on the same latitude and geographic area as Venezuela. The difference lies in the approach we took in regards to energy production.
Venezuelans outside of Caracas suffer form 6 hours of power outages daily and Maduro was saying we were getting 12 hours of daily outages. That's simply not true, we haven't suffer a minute of power outages so far.
I hope Colombia do all right. The only think that concerns me is how close you are to gringos.
>>58913940
>he can't understand regional powers
lmao
>>58914086
But why? They're literally narcotraficantes. Your govt should make a mega-operations to kill them.
>>58914423
Lol. Chile is better than Brazil in almost every possible way. The only thing that Brazil has is numbers
>>58914793
Go figure. We already have around 60.000 gringos living here, but they're good people haha.
<-------- Expats living here
Why does that concern you?
>>58914863
I know, right. Our government is softie as fuck right now.
>>58914863
main guerrilla camps are in venezuela.
plus the goverment has been unable to kill and destroy the main FARC forces.
It's a stalemate, FARC claims the goverment can't kill them and the goverment claims they're weakened.
FARC goals has never been to defeat the goverment, but to hold as long as they can as to the goverment to concede stuff.
same as ELN.
>>58915148
>>58915270
Well, i see some videos and news about the Colombian Army fighting guerrilas in the jungle.
Also one about a Super Tucano being taken down by Farc with a Anti-Air gun.
>WE WWII NOW.
>>58915391
pls explain the tucano and anti air gun and wwii meme.
I'm not into war shit.
>>58915074
whats that list about?
>>58914238
>Comparable
Maybe so. They fucked up 1970-1990 really bad.
But then again America has been the richest (major) nation per capita since at least 1880.
>It was projected to be a serious challenge to American economic dominance had it not imploded.
Bait
>>58915456
foreigners living in colombia.
>>58915438
http://internacional.estadao.com.br/noticias/geral,super-tucano-colombiano-cai-na-selva-e-farc-reivindicam-autoria-de-ataque-imp-,899523
>Super Tucano falls in Colombian jungle and FARC claims the atack.
>>58915551
pls explain.
I don't even know what a tucano is.
>>58915590
FARC too down a Colombian Air Force plane.
Are you dense or what?
>>58915551
That was 4 years ago. I didn't even know about that incident
>>58915653
I don't know what are the comparative forces of a tucano compared to WWII planes or more modern planes.
>>58914317
Panama and Costa Rica are objectively worse than Argentina.
Not to mention the shit weather
>>58915543
>>58915581
Thank you.
What do americans do there?
>>58915800
coke and sluts
>>58914444
>You think those projections are made up? They based their research on historic and global trends.
Economic projections have historically been shown to be most accurate in the 10-20 year time frame.
5-10 is shit.
20-50 is JUST FUCK MY SHIT UP tier.
>>58915800
I think mostly is work related stuff.
>>58915665
Wow, thought it was a nationwide news. It was shown here even.
>>58915695
Super Tucano uses turboprop instead of pistons, can launch guided missles and some other modern day stuff.
>>58914701
90% of your electricity doesn't come from lakes that 99 years out of 100 are full of water.
>>58915819
not him, but what countries will colombia overtake them economically in the near and mid term?
>>58915862
give me some example a laymen can understand, pls.
>>58915920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hx4O7sXNw4
>>58916130
thanks bro.
I'm sure it was more newswhorty in brazil because it was a brazilian made plane.
>>58915817
>>58915800
This. Also lots of retirees lately
>>58916193
It was more because of the anti-air gun. Like, normally we see shit like that in middle east.
>>58915743
how so? both are less corrupt than Argentina, for one. Panama is also richer and grows faster. Costa Rica is better at many social indicators.
>>58913516
Venezuela's gdp is less than Peru and Chile one, so no. Venezuela's per capita is much lower than Colombia's.
>>58915873
Venezuela, a number of non-hispanic countries, but not Argentina.
3rd largest in South America is good.
>>58916237
it's well known FARC buy weapons from the black market using their narco money.
>>58910832
>superpower
>there's only one
every time
>>58916296
I don't give a fuck about GDP.
but in many shit like iliteracy, poverty, child starvation and other shit, they're pretty much the same as us.
>>58916264
Panama is not richer than Argentina IIRC. It's close though.
HDI metrics say all I need to know.
>>58915865
most of Colombia's electricty is hidro, indeed. It's just that we built a lot of termoelectric stations, just in case, after the 1992 energetic crisis, which was caused by a severe drought. That's what saved us from an energetic shortage this time.
>>58916301
Same shit here. Not so long ago a gang was arrested with a old .50 M2.
>>58916264
This is not true man. Venezuelas GDP is higher thant chile's and Peru's, but not higher than ours.
Their GDP per capita used to be higher than ours but it has been cut almost in half by now due to the economic contraction of the past 2 years.
Here's everything you need to know -----------> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsTOdUTiD-A
>>58910832
whats that country left of canada?
>>58916407
well I don't know if Panama is richer already than Hungertina or not, in any casem it will be in a couple of years. Panama grows 7% every year, Hungertina is a recession shithole.
>>58916473
do you know about military stuff?
can you give me other videos like the tucano?
I want to know how strong is our military.
>>58916494
alaska?
>>58916525
and Panama has like 1% inflation, Argentina has >25% inflation. Minimum wage in Panama is 600 USD; in Argentina, 400 USD.
>>58916488
see the last IMF data, Venezuela has a smaller economy than Peru and Chile on nominal terms.
>>58916525
This is the problem, argentina don't grow since 1920.
We'd improving our GDP almost like a miracle.
1998 colombian GDP was a third of current one.
There's even shit like the new weed industry here that is already taking over the world.
>>58916338
Nope.
>>58916494
It's a US state. Alaska
>>58916576
Did two years of border patrol on Paraguayan border.
Idk much about Colombian army. I know they use a lot of US-made equipment.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WU8WsPecLS4
>>58916525
It's like 5% the last few years and decelerating. But still very good.
Panama is going to get rekt if the Nicaragua Canal is built.
>>58910832
>Czech Republic
>Literally who
>Middle Power
>North Korea
>Largest military
>Full militarized society
>Has nukes
>Small power
Ayy
>>58910832
>>58911939
I really wish I was the only colombian poster on /int/ so that I'd stop being embarassed each time they post.
>>58916663
Colombian poverty = 27%
Argentina poverty = 24%
Colombia 2009 poverty = 48%
>>58916719
yeah, USA has giving us millions to fight commies.
look up the Plan colombia.
>>58916736
North korea has 0 economic and political influence.
>>58916296
Colombia already overtook Venezuela in pretty much every aspect. And the gap is growing larger, Colombia grows 3%/year; Venezuela is decreasing 7-10%, it will take them years to recover.
>>58916798
why you can't join the bants bro?
It's just 4chan shitposting (I'm OP).
nobody really believe colombia is better than argentina.
>>58916296
Why don't you admit the fact that our economy is bigger than yours. Venezuela has the largest oil reserves in the world and still manages to fuck everything up.
<-------- These are 2015 figures, that means they don't take into account the further economic contraction that Venezuela is gonna suffer this year and next year.
Even the IMF shows that Peru and Chile are going to take over them soon if they continue going down that path.
>>58916805
>trusting americans to get rid of your internal problems
Definitely a bad idea desu.
>>58916920
I wasn't sure what the date was, but just 3 years ago Venezuela was larger.
The argument started as if Colombia would overtake Argentina, and that's simply not happening.
so we can all agree: no more cocaine for the colombian
>>58917008
why?
americans are our best allied.
we're ideologically, politically, economically very aligned with americans.
>>58915456
TENES UNA CUCARACHA EN LA BANDERA
>>58917058
anything can happen.
We need still to see how much GDP will the weed industry increase ours.
It's been said that there's no other country right now to take our spot at weed production.
>>58917107
Well, it's very well known that they make things worse than actually fix it when they interfere on other cunts problems. Like now with those peace talks. Plus you're just giving them money instead of actually developing your own military industry. My opinion tho, i think Colombia is pretty capable to fix that problem alone.
>>58917107
We are your allies so that you will stop selling us billions of grams of cocaine each year. Nothing more.
>It's the "colombia economy is better than poorgentina" poster again
This is why people don't take our bantz seriously. This faggot keeps spamming this on /lat/ every fucking day, he's just as bad as canadians
>>58917058
Colombia is not gonna surpass Argentina just yet, but it'll happen eventually.
We did it in 2014, but they regained their spot. Off course, we'll reclaim it to become the third largest economy in LATAM after Brazil and Mexico Read the first paragraph of this article:
http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052702304899704579389501040961442
http://www.ibtimes.com/colombia-surpasses-argentina-latin-americas-third-largest-economy-due-inflation-1563342
Even the fucking Telegraph is on our side:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/globalbusiness/11441732/Colombia-from-failed-state-to-Latin-American-powerhouse.html
>>58917236
if you look at our situation before the plan colombia, like in 1998, the FARC were already controlling city centers in the jungle.
It was with american weapons and american dollars and training that uribe was able to take down some FARC leaders and make them retreat.
>>58917277
>ignoring the seven tactical bases in colombia to take down the communist menace
>>58917296
calm down bro, you're taking too seriously the memes.
>>58917296
He may be bad but I bet you fuck donkeys, Kevin.
>>58917431
he's that colombian who is always claiming that colombia is trash, there's no culture here, we shouldn't be proud, we're poor, argentina is better, being proud of the NT make you a nigger, GABO is a meme and so on.
he's a self hating faggot.
>>58917403
Yes, same it was in middle east.
Now look at them, it's a complete shithole.
>>58917107
>we're ideologically, politically, economically very aligned with Unitedstasians.
not at all, not more than any other country. ideologically the U.S. is very sui generis.
>>58917236
it's the XXI century, all countries cooperate with each other on different terms. several countries have military bases all over the World (not in colombia tho').
>>58917562
es el autista de Jamundí, da más lástima que otra cosa :yes:
>>58917788
I'm not the autistic fag from Jamundi, I also find him repulsive. However I'm wondering.... Why do you hate your own country so much dude?
>>58910832
hooray for semi relevance
>>58917696
compared to the rest of south american, we're very much the most american nation here.
>>58917788
pero porque te duele el culo por todo lo que posteo?
posteo cualquier pendejada para joder un rato y te duele.
le tiro mierda a los argentinos por joder y te duele el culo.
chicaneo las cosas buenas del pais para joder un rato y te duele el culo.
y pensas que decir memes aqui es creerselos.
estas bien jodido.
>>58917928
>repulsive
lol
entonces no puedo joder la vida aqui?
solo los argentinos pueden hacer pelotudeces?
>>58918012
>compared to the rest of south american, we're very much the most american nation here.
iba a preguntar por qué crees eso pero al darme cuenta que eres Jamundí perdí interés.
>estas bien jodido.
mira quién lo dice. busca otras formas de ocuparte distintas a 4chan. te lo digo en buena, como consejo de alguien en una situación parecida.
>>58918143
I mean, I'm saying compared to the rest of nations.
when all latinoamerica follows basically socialism, we came as the most american simply because of free trade and capitalism.
there's no secret there.
>4chan
I dunno, I think is a fun page to waste time and say dumb shit.
I can't simply shitpost on my facebook saying the same shit I say here.
Plus I'm waiting to enter college, so I have free time.
You seem to believe all those memes of mine are true, right?
they seem to be making new memes about me, like I'm fat and gay and zoophilic and other garbage.
>>58916733
>Panama is going to get rekt if the Nicaragua Canal is built.
sure, they're gonna build a 50 billion dollar canal anytime soon
our economy decelerated because of our imbecile president (completely halted 10 or so megaprojects), the new canal locks open next month and we're going to keep growing above 5% for some time
>>58918345
With Ecuador, Brazil and Venezuela's economies all contracting this year, you and Peru are our last hope so I hope y'all keep doing well bro :)
>>58918642
how much GDP we'll grow if cocaine farming was made legal?
>>58918740
in all countries these illegal activities are part of the economy, not only Colombia.
the drug bussiness is more profitable in other countries than in here, because a trafficker or a dealer in countries like the U.S. earn much more than our coca farmers.
>>58918871
yeah, but making them legal, will give us taxes and all that shit, even foreign investors.
![Prime Minister's Questions- 10 February 2016.mp4_snapshot_04.49_[2016.02.24_23.20.18].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/SVRGUi7.jpg "Prime Minister's Questions- 10 February 2016.mp4_snapshot_04.49_[2016.02.24_23.20.18].jpg")
>>58910832
>Cehia
>Hungary
>Romania
>"Middle"-powers
>>58918740
I don't really know and personally don't give a damn. But I'm sure we'd be a freaking superpower if that shit were legal.
>>58919218
I dunno man, colombian can be a fucking agricultural superpower if the state didn't have forgotten the farmers since forever.
we can harvest food all year.
It's a fucking insult our farmers have to make strikes.
>>58918939
>>58918740
ive already said this, colombian gov should allow it for research, then come with a product that has acceptable levels of addiction for public consumption (similar to caffeine or nicotine), then make it legal.
not only for the growth, but most importantly, farmers will be kept occupied with this safe profitable product (itll be more profitable because its legal) effectively eliminating the problem from root. nearby coca producer countries could join.
