Why is this allowed?
>>58892887
german is of nazi
>>58892887
>>58892924
:^)
>>58892924
>Russia
>"won" two world wars
>still a shithole
Can't make this shit up.
>>58892887
Because Christians are inferior to Muslims.
Why is this not a thing?
Should have thought in advance before starting another world war Germany.
>>58893221
War sure has helped the Germans a lot, kek
>the most cucked country in europe is also the most powerful country in europe
nice continent
>>58893293
Both the French and British army is better. Poles and Italians are almost stronger than Germany too.
Germany is shit.
>>58893293
The UK isn't the most powerful though.
>>58893012
>his country has never won a war
>>58893266
>>58893335
>>58893221
>>58893340
At least we have a higher life expectancy than North Korea and Bangladesh.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_life_expectancy
>>58893391
nice meme, slovenia
>>58893335
>his country has never won a war
*never won a world war
Also we have never lost a war since 1945.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Germany
>>58893425
>World War I
(1914–1918)
>Defeat
>End of the German, Russian, Ottoman, and Austro-Hungarian empires
>Formation of new countries in Europe and the Middle East
>Transfer of German colonies and regions of the former Ottoman Empire to other powers
>Establishment of the League of Nations
>World War II
(1939–1945)
>Defeat
>Collapse of the Third Reich
>Fall of Japanese and Italian Empires
>Creation of the United Nations
>Emergence of the United States and the Soviet Union as superpowers
>Beginning of the Cold War
can't make this shit up lmao
>>58893221
Shouldn't have defended the criminal bolshevikis, Timofei. Now you have a depressive post-soviet shithole-dystopia. Glorious winners of war.
gleichfalls an Sudeten und Memelburg
>>58893335
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Russia
over 60 victories
u can stufu
>>58893629
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_New_Zealand
>>58893483
Excuse me, are you even a real country or ethnicy? You are not even the original people of your lands and you still have the flag of your masters in your own flag. You are not in the position to be cheeky.
>>58893695
>a fucking world war defeat
never reply to me again
>>58893669
>List_of_war
>involving
>New_Zealand
>>58893714
>New Zealand culture
>>58893747
>strong warrior people proud of their heritage
maybe germany can learn from them
>>58893747
Nothing wrong with that.
>>58893795
>proud of their heritage
>"muuuuh heritage"
Are you 1/64 Maori?
>>58892887
>Von der Maas bis
>An die Memel
>>58893806
Except that it's the culture of native tribes, and not yours :^)
>>58893880
better than being 1/64th turkish :^)
>>58893669
>see also
>list of wars involving Australia
>>58893915
>le Turkish meme xD
>>58893915
not really
turkey had an empire
what did maoris have
>>58894123
civil war
>>58893525
Russians where fighting for their survival
>>58894420
*were
>>58894420
Sure. The winter war against Finland and all those conquest plans were just about survival.
Bolsheviki were fucking dangerous and they took over the wheel. I respect the good old Russians who have fought against the red terror regime.
People like Goebbels actually were huge Russiaboos and didn't want to have war against Russia. They thought the soviet regime was just temporary. Hitler convinced them otherwise.
>>58893695
>not even the original people of your lands
>implying N*w Z*aland and Australia aren't just a modern example of the karge scale migration that has occurred since fucking forever
>>58894828
I'm not saying that Soviet regime didn't do terrible things (Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, invasion of Poland, Baltic states and Finland).
Red Army soldiers were fighting for a physical survival of their nation. German atrocities in the USSR were unprecedented (except for Poland).
>>58892887
funfact: Szczecin (Stettin) was never given to us. We took it after the war and Germany had to deal with it.
>>58892887
When the day comes that Lithuania and Poland split Kaliningrad maybe then Poland will give you the Westbank of Oder.
>>58895135
no one wants Kiliningrad, i can assure you
>>58892887
Coz you lost the war lel.
>>58895043
>We took it
Soviet Union held it for 10 years after the war and then gave it to Poland only to cause more butthurtness in the West. You took nothing. Soviet Union took whatever they wanted in Eastern Europe and gave you what ever they wanted mostly to humiliate Germany.
>>58895270
yes, but it wasnt given to us. we held it and were supposed to give it to germany, which never happened
>>58895135
>>58895173
Nothing belongs to Germany, they're a fake state.
Especially now.
>>58893012
Russia lost WWI with disasterous consequences, the only worst thing were Bolshevists (who signed treaty of Brest) by themselves. I never heard anyone claimed that Russia won both of world wars.
>>58895567
>I never heard anyone claimed that Russia won both of world wars.
lel.
Gf is Russian and
>her face when I tell her that Russia lost WW1 (or at best won WW1 like France "won" WW2)
>>58895173
If only for an easy exit from the Vistula Bay (or whatever it's called) it is worth it, nigga.
>>58895696
this land is worthless. no infrastructure, no industry. Its of any value only when in russian hands
>>58895681
>Gf is Russian
lel
Are you having a fest on the Victory Day?
>>58895696
>>58895774
if anything we should gain some eastern and even western lands, southern would be good too.
we need bettter strategic points. but then again, we can't really think about it since we're a vassal state without Poles in it. LOL
Lithuania is rightful Polish clay
Why not just take it back?
>>58895844
On that day I ram it even harder in her Stalingrad, if you know what I mean.
Overall there is not much of a problem since she accepts that in the end we kinda won. (Russia being... Russia while Germany is the most civilized (real) country there is)
>>58895916
>Why not just take it back?
>Germany
>Taking anything back
They let another nation invade them without a fight
>>58895964
fuckin KEK
>>58895964
>we kinda won
This is what Germans actually believe
>>58895916
Because german have been castrated as a people.
>>58895964
>>58895991
>>58895999
>>58896001
>>58896012
WE WAS CIVILIZATION SHIT
>>58895999
She really cries all the time that Russia got way to less after the war and why it is possible that Germany is so much better at anything after losign the war. kek.
>>58896001
Well... take a look at Russia today and look at what Germany became.
>>58896075
>look at what Germany became
topkek
>>58896129
furor Islamicus
>>58896129
Nice miehms, bro.
>>58896075
What Russia and Germany are nowadays is not directly connected to the fact of who won the war 70 years ago, but rather to how they went on afterwards.
Germany (West) got a tonne of help and American money to avoid what happened to them before hand (WW1) and told to be smart; whereas Russia had commies being stupid commie shits.
It the most basic terms, yes Russia won the "war", but lost the "peace" and Germany lost the "war" and won the "peace".
Cheers.
>>58895964
>we kinda won
Do you feel like German nation and Hitler Nazi regime are the same? I'm a little confused here.
>>58896250
>Russia won the "war", but lost the "peace" and Germany lost the "war" and won the "peace".
Well said.
>>58896305
You know, Russian soldiers did not only rape Hitler.
Rivers aren't appropriate boundaries any more, and haven't been for a while. Between hydroelectric schemes, irrigation schemes, water quality, waterway ecology, regulating waterborne transport and preventing smuggling, rivers lend themselves to being governed by the one state.
All the proper autists since the early 19th century have liked watersheds better
>>58896472
Elbe is rightful border between Poland and Germany
>>58896383
And it wasn't only SS, but also Wehrmacht, which was a regular German army, that was raping and killing civilians in USSR
>>58892924
With the AFD in Power we will take it back. I hope.
>>58896637
... and populate it with how? Rapefugees?
>>58896562
... and every Russian is speaking about how "we Russians won the war".
>>58896637
nope
>>58896532
yes please take east germany, it's total garbage
>>58896699
Fucken?
>>58896778
>Fucken?
>>58896778
>>58896819
>>58896877
>>58896383
I don't get what you're trying to say. Please, just give me an answer, I'm interested.
anything unjust to Germans are allowed in this world.
>>58896699
>... and populate it with how? Rapefugees?
That's kinda smart.
Can't wait for the reinvigorated Prussen Empire with Ahmeds in pickelhaubens KEK
>>58892924
>>58893000
>>58897053
Well, a lot of people suffered under Russians, so a lot of people are happy that Russia is like it is today.
>>58897369
Who cares about those "a lot of people"?
>>58897369
It's weird. We aren't happy of your problems, though it was you who made us suffer. WWII is history.
>>58897494
>We aren't happy of your problems
Speak for yourself. I am happy of their problems. I hope german cities will burn under islamic rule soon :^)
>>58897494
>We aren't happy of your problems,
lier
>WWII is history.
even bigger lier
>>58897494
>WWII is history.
Oh yes? Then why are you still celebrating your crazy Stalin-parade?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Iu0pvZP-dM
This is how most people see you here.
>>58897439
Well, a lot of people care for a lot of people.
>>58897494
It's not all of us. I for example kinda like Russia.
Still I can really understand a lot of hatred against it.
>>58897615
We celebrate the day when the war that killed 30mlns of our people was over, that's definitely something germans won't understand, you can celebrate only gay parades and kurban bayran now.
>>58897536
Maybe you and a couple of internet-maniacs. You know how Russians worship Western Europeans and especially Germans.
>>58897615
We celebrate the end of an awful war. Ofc people don't see modern Germans as bad Nazi that killed us n shiet.
>>58897812
>you can celebrate only gay parades and kurban bayran now.
We have our kind of parades aswell. But without any WWII relation, without any nazi or communist symbols and without national flag colours flying over the sky and all this insane shit. My point is: Don't tell WWII is history, if you guys are still totally obsessed with WWII.
>>58898094
Eh the guy seems to be pretty triggered. I respect russia and we should try to get along again. Every time we stood against each other things got fucked up. We trade a lot and our cultures are more similar than compared to turkey for example.
>>58897615
It's not like they are the only ones celebrating...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victory_Day_(9_May)
Armenia Armenia
Azerbaijan
Belarus
Poland
Georgia
Germany Federal Republic of Germany does not officially recognise 9 May as a holiday. However, celebrations continue to take place in some areas of the former German Democratic Republic
Kazakhstan
Kyrgyzstan
Moldova
Montenegro
Russia
Serbia
Tajikistan
Turkmenistan
Ukraine
Uzbekistan
>>58898235
Russian (ex-)vassals are celebrating it too. What a surprise.
>>58898361
>Germany Federal Republic of Germany does not officially recognise 9 May as a holiday. However, celebrations continue to take place in some areas of the former German Democratic Republic
never seen a more cucked nation
Literally celebrating being defeated.
There is nothing wrong in having victors celebrate, but losers...
>>58892887
Because Stalin had a hate boner for Germany
>>58898361
> Also, on 8 May, the German state of Mecklenburg-Vorpommern since 2002 has recognised a commemorative day Tag der Befreiung vom Nationalsozialismus und der Beendigung des 2. Weltkrieges (Day of Liberation from National Socialism, and the End of the Second World War).
How are you even a nation still Hans ?
>>58898466
Can you read?
>Germany Federal Republic of Germany does not officially recognise 9 May as a holiday.
>celebrations continue to take place in some areas of the former German Democratic Republic
>former German Democratic Republic
The GDR was a Soviet vassal aswell.
>>58898489
No.
He wanted to rob Poles from Kresy. It wasn't about Germany. Also, he wanted to have Russia closer France in case of coming WW3.
>>58898518
>Mecklenburg-Vorpommern
Ex-GDR and Soviet vassal aswell.
>>58898194
If something is history it doesn't mean we should forget it. Communist symbolism isn't criminalized here and it is symbol of victory there is literally 0 reason we should stop these celebrations.
>>58893335
Franco Prussian?
>>58898522
>>58898578
Not anymore it isn't ?
It's a part of Germany now
Why allow it ?
Your people celebrate it kek
>>58898607
>Communist symbolism is symbol of victory
In your Stalinistic fantasy-world maybe.
>>58898676
Because a lot of East-Germans were cvcked under Soviet rule. We are still trying to fix East-Germany after communists made a shithole out of it.
>>58898722
It is in Russia. I understand in your books americans took Berlin but in real world people with red stars on their tanks and hats put red flag on reichstag.
>>58893318
Greeks have stronger army than Germany too. And even thought they are debty their soldiers have rifles instead of broomsticks.
>>58898194
look at those cucks
they look like they'd shit their pants and run away the moment they see slavic ubermensch
>>58898796
>people with red stars on their tanks and hats put red flag on reichstag
followed by 45 cold years of decomposition, poverty and red fascism just to make the Soviet Union collapse under a huge pile of shit. Good job. And you are praising and celebrating this huge failure.
In my book Russian and Americans are the same evil.
>>58892887
This triggers my autism
When you fucking put rivers as borders.... Then do it right
>>58898988
They fought for their lifes, something you wanted to take away from them. It wasn't abot future GDP or HDI of reichscomisariar Muscovy, it was about survival.
>>58899058
>Fought for their lives
They fought for bolshevism. And you are still a great tool for bolshevism. Loyal to those who squeezed your balls and made a shithole out of Russia.
Attacking Finland, raping whole Eastern- and Central Europe and annexing half of Europe in the sake of bolshevism.. Is this what you call survival? WWII was a war of ideologies.
>>58898673
>Prussian
>>58899218
>They fought for bolshevism.
So you, as a german, support your country getting flooded by wild animals from the middle east and africa just because Merkel think it's a good idea?
Or maybe gov =/= people?
>>58899218
And your ideology took 27mln of soviet lifes, yes when some kraut comes to your home and starts shooting people fighting him back is called surviving and it didn't matter who was the head of the state. Nobody loved bolsheviks but germans were just evil that had to be destroyed. Or how the fuck do you imagine this war? As germans being some kind of liberators from bolshevism? You were genociders and invaders nothing more.
>>58899337
>but germans were just evil that had to be destroyed. Or how the fuck do you imagine this war?
There was no black and white. Nazi-Germany vs. Soviet-Russia was evil vs. evil.
Also don't forget that dictator Stalin is #2 mass murderer in the world history, followed by #3 Hitler.
>As germans being some kind of liberators from bolshevism? You were genociders and invaders nothing more.
And do you think Russians were some kind of liberators from nationalsocialism? You were rapers and invaders, nothing more. Both ideologies sucked.
>>58899325
>Or maybe gov =/= people?
Both people were brainwashed by their governments.
>>58899597
>USSR lost 27mln people therefore Hitler killed 17
>Stalin took out of nowhete 27mln corpses
Totally legit pic. Nobody cared how russians were seen, they came to kill the beast that invaded their home and killed their families.
You know in first months of war nazis were welcome in occupied societ lands, people thought like finally these assholes were gone. None of these sentimentd survived even a year.
>>58893077
Looks like CK2 Wendish Empire
>>58899717
Pffff, are you really defending Stalin and Soviet war crimes so much? You must be totally insane and obsessed.
It's a well known fact that Stalin is the #2 mass murderer of world history.
How could Germany and Russia ever be friends if Russians praise Stalin, are convinced they were the good guys and that we must be thankful that took they half of Europe?
>"We good guys))) Everyone else russophobe"
>>58899717
>they came to kill the beast that
And the invasion of Ukraine? Breaking international treaties? Is it survival aswell? Russia is the beast now.
>>58900006
I just hate when they take some numbers out from their ass in the west.
>Stalin killed 60mln people
>ok ok -30mln people
>15?
>will 10 be enough?
In reality there were 4 mln victims of GULAG and that's it. He is blamed for that everywhere including Russia and considered bloody tyrane, but sayinf he somehow killed more people than Hitler who is guilty for the death of at least 30mln of russians, ukrainians, belorussians etc on eastern front is beyond retarded
>>58900141
>>58900085
I can't see russian aviation shelling Kiev tbqh.
>>58900177
Did you hear about presumption of innocence? Where are my proofs on 60mlns of murdered by Stalin in the time when soviet population was rapidly growing?
>>58896562
Nice commie memes. What regular Wehrmacht soldiers did in Russia doesn't even compare to how regular Red Army soldiers chimped out on "liberated" civilians
>>58900290
You conveniently forget about holodomor and other atrocities made by your "great" (he was actually a manlet just like putin) leader.
>>58900328
>what wermacht soldiers did in Russia can not be compared
>18mlns dead civilians
>total german losses including combatants: 9mln
Really, absolutely uncomparable)))))))))))))
>>58900392
I didn't people that starved in southern Russia and Ukraine are included in 4mln of victims of Stalinism that is judged by Russia.
>>58900472
Yeah..no. 4 mln is gulag alone. There were 1.5-3 mln civilians and 1-2 mln pow that died there alone. Some estimates are even higher. Holodomor is another 4 mln
>>58900423
>>18mlns dead civilians
So? We were talking about Wehrmacht atrocities. That number (which seems to be getting higher and higher every year) is composed mostly of deaths caused by malnutrition (also in the non-occupied part).
>Russians are the good guys
>It was survival
>Stalin was an angel
>Hitler killed more people
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_prisoners_of_war_in_the_Soviet_Union
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_during_the_occupation_of_Germany
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_famine_of_1932%E2%80%9333
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stalinist_repressions_in_Mongolia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_operations_of_the_NKVD
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_deportations_from_Estonia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalmyk_deportations_of_1943
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NKVD_prisoner_massacres
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemmersdorf_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Przyszowice_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_battalions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Terror
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag
>>58893629
still not as good as Turkey's record.
literally never lost a war.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Turkey
>>58900838
>not including ottoman empire
>>58900838
you know its bullshit, dontya
>>58892887
Agreed. Polish border should be based on Elbe river.
>>58900977
>>58900965
ottoman empire=backwards islamic shithole that sucked at warfare
turkey=absolutely perfect war machine
turkey isn't ottoman empire 2bh lads
>>58901076
>backwards islamic shithole
Don't worry, Erdogan is fixing that former glory back right now
>>58901076
>this is what turks are taught in history class
wtf
>>58901184
so fuck some black bunda laddie, you have to be blind to not see that Turkey is the master of warfare
>>58901151
feels bad man
>>58901076
yeah and russian fed. is not cccp or tsar russia.
>>58898194
Should have stuck with the goose-step
>>58901228
the ottomans were t*rkroaches man
>>58901234
good lad, you understood pretty quickly
>>58901296
of course and that islamic symbol on your flag its just a pure coincidence
>>58901399
>polski education
crescent is literall an age old Turkic symbol, moon and sky was the most important things for Turkic people in the past.
This /pol/-tier thread is absolute cancer
>>58901529
>roach education
it was 'created' in XIX century by ottomans and has islamic connotations moron
>>58892887
>Neisse
Nice.
>>58901707
i'm not talking about the current flag you literal mongoloid
you said that crescent is islamic, and i said it wasn't. what a retard.
>>58901707
it's from turkic mamluks.
>>58901774
>Star and crescent
>The symbol emerged into popular use during the 19th century as a modernistic national symbol for the Ottoman Empire during the Westernizing Tanzimat reforms.
>The star and crescent historically was a symbol of the Ottoman Empire, but later became associated with Islam in general.
IT IS ISLAMIC SYMBOL
>>58901917
>later became associated with Islam in general.
but you said it yourself
islam usurped it
Everything would be better if we won WW1.
>>58902042
>be austria-hungary
>get dissolved
>>58902071
you should know this feeling
>>58902071
>be ottomans
>lose a single battle
>whole empire collapses
>>58901944
and cross its not christian symbol because christians usurped it. no wonder no one wants you in eu. you are just plain stupid.
>>58902085
yes :(
central powers should have won desu
>>58901917
Your own post literally reads that it " *LATER* became associated with Islam in General."
How dense are you?
>>58902171
>be pooland
>literally wiped out of the map by 3 superior countries
CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP LADS
>>58902175
>you are just plain stupid.
see >>58902203
fucking hell
>>58902265
>wiped out by three(3) superpowers
>literally took half of europe to destroy us
>>58902265
but it was already associated with islam when adopted by ottomans in XIX century. Just as cross despite predating christians when used nowadays its deemed to be christian sign.
>>58899221
If you count WW1 and WW2 where they had different governments, names and territories as German you're forced to count the Franco-Prussian war. Their borders changed less before and after it then they did after the World Wars.
>>58898988
>followed by 45 cold years of decomposition, poverty and red fascism
Not really.
Stalin died in 1953 and most of red fascism died with him.
>>58902518
not really its still popular
>>58902559
What is popular? Red fascism or Sralin?
>>58902741
>Sralin
>>58900328
Stay delusional.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht#Rapes_2
>>58893012
Russia lost WWI though. The commies left the war just before they would've won it, since they promised peace ASAP.
>>58902741
>Sralin
>>58893399
Germany and Russia not getting along is one reason the US the the sole superpower right now.
Keep it up!
