http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3569687/Childcare-new-mums-work-small-business-tax-cuts-create-jobs-money-schools-Budget-2016-affect-yes-cigarettes-alcohol-prices-up.html
No more cheap goon. Enjoy your nanny state faggots.
>no right to free speech, hate speech laws out the ass
>downright draconian gun laws
>need a license for fucking air rifles
>airsoft is banned
>LASER pointers are banned
>fucking YO YO WATERBALLS are banned
>novelty toy-like lighters are banned
>smokeless tobacco is banned
>toys containing beads are banned
>need a helmet to ride a fucking bicycle
>plain packaging on cigarettes
>absurdly high taxation on alcohol and cigarettes
>many violent games and movies banned
>video games are expensive as shit
>no self defense allowed
>hoverboards banned
kek
>Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. This very kindness stings with intolerable insult. To be "cured" against one's will and cured of states which we may not regard as disease is to be put on a level of those who have not yet reached the age of reason or those who never will; to be classed with infants, imbeciles, and domestic animals.
Their government treats them like mongoloid children.
>australia
>not sad cunts
>taxing degeneracy
>bad
>>58837759
>Smokers paying more for their degenerate habits
Don't see a problem with this, besides muh rights and freedoms
>>58837917
>>58837946
dorks
>>58837917
>>58837946
Top kek.
When they come for your vices and hobbies it'll be funny watching you bitch and moan.
What a fucking authortarian hellhole your country is.
>>58837759
>No more cheap goon
they will not blanket tax alcohol and wine is the last thing they will tax due to our wine industry
the tax will likely be on pre-mixed drinks
>>58838029
>When they come for your vices and hobbies
>implying
As authoritarian as it is here, we're not as bad as other parts of the western world, also you're not one to talk, you cunts are voting in a literal authoritarian criminal
there's literally nothing wrong with a nanny state and liberalism was a mistake
the only good freedom is the freedom to do good things
>>58837917
This. I guess Americans love lobbies that stop progress.
>>58838029
When my vices and hobbies become health concerns to other people then they can start coming after it.
drunktards take up the hospital emergency area in the weekend, they might as well pay for it
Reminder
>>58838167
>health concerns to other people
Smoking indoors is already banned you fucking idiot. The healthcare costs argument doesn't even make sense because smokers actually end up costing less because they die earlier.
http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/03/aussie-government-bans-hoverboards/
What a nanny state lel
>>58837913
>Sling shot
But that's a toy.
>>58838244
>Smoking indoors is already banned you fucking idiot
Fucking so? Literally all but one of my neighbours smoke, I can't have a window open in my own fucking property because of these cancers to society
>smokers actually end up costing less because they die earlier.
Guess you should all kill yourselves.
>>58837759
I was in Thailand last year and I saw a ton of Australian expats. The most common reason I heard for them living there was to escape the fucking overbearing statist government that interferes so much in personal lives and choices. I don't blame them one bit. I would go insane if I had to live in such a place too.
>>58837845
>Their government treats them like mongoloid children.
uhh
>>58838236
>Cops Repeatedly Probe Man's Anus in Worst Traffic Stop Ever
O SAY CAN YOU SEE
>>58838029
>All taxes are bad even if they tax bad stuff because they might tax something I like
>>58838321
First Nation Reserves for the most part
>>58838321
You're an idiot if you think we even approach how nanny your cunt is pham. Besides the drinking age and muh kinder eggs you cunts take the first, second and third places in the nanny olympics.
>>58838313
You're a paranoid idiot.
>>58838355
Most of Texas is a first nation reserve?
>>58837759
I'd take all of this over spics and niggers running my country into the ground.
>>58838377
Lel meant to quote >>58838300
>>58838377
>You're an idiot if you think we even approach how nanny your cunt is pham
>He's not even allowed to gamble or hire prostitutes
LMAO desu pham
>>58838313
I am sure them leaving for a military state will help
>>58838379
>>58838321
Yellow does not mean alcohol cannot be sold you moron. It just means there are restrictions (limit on hours you can buy) and such.
Australia already does this with lockout laws.
>>58838405
>Good goyim, keep buying these here smokers, they don't hurt, I swear
>US is litterally one of the most puiritan Nanny states in the world
>No prostitution
>No gambling
>State monopoly on alcohol or outright banned in many areas
>Go to jail for possessing marijuana
>They call us a nanny state because we tax shit
???
>>58837917
>>58837946
>>58838300
>>58838458
Keep fighting the good fight against degeneracy my friend.
>>58838313
>I was in Thailand last year and I saw a ton of Australian expats. The most common reason I heard for them living there was to escape the fucking overbearing statist government that interferes so much in personal lives and choices. I don't blame them one bit. I would go insane if I had to live in such a place too
They're all losers who couldn't hack it back home. Any opinions from them should be taken with a grain of salt.
>>58838422
>he is not allowed to gamble or hire prostituites
Nigger what? The vast majority of states do not ban gambling. Nice bait.
>>58837913
>>58837917
>>58837946
>>58838012
Australia, do you have to go through any hoops to buy a kitchen knife from the store? Also, has anyone ever really been harassed for having a wrench or screwdriver?
>>58838442
>It just means there are restrictions (limit on hours you can buy) and such.
It amazes me that you think this is acceptable
>>58838442
Lockout laws are in central districts in NSW that are known for violent attacks, i still agree they shouldn't be in place, but the mongrels will never learn if not for that
>>58838519
Not that I'm aware of and no idea
>>58838503
>no prostitution
False depends on the state.
>no gambling
False. The vast majority of states do not ban gambling or casinos.
>alcohol is prohibibted
Not outside red counties which are the exception and not the norm. Vast majority of counties allow alcohol.
>>58838435
The funny thing is tha Thailand has more negative freedom than you at this point.
>>58838525
Nigger you have lockout laws too. And I don't live in Texas so idgaf.
>>58838519
Also, what's with all the ninja weapons on the list? Does that have something to do with asian immigration to your country? Did you guys have some kind of martial arts kick happen in the last couple decades?
>>58838518
>The vast majority of states do not ban gambling
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_the_United_States#Legal_issues
>Gambling is legally restricted in the United States
Literally the first sentence. State run lotto's don't fucking count
>>58838583
>The vast majority of states do not ban gambling or casinos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambling_in_the_United_States#Legal_issues
>Nevada and Louisiana are the only two states where casino-style gambling is legal statewide.
So 2 states don't restrict it
>>58838589
Restrictions do not equal bans you moron. I'm pretty sure you have restrictions on gambling too.
Most states have state owned or indian operated casinos. You're a moron.
>>58838583
>Nigger you have lockout laws too.
Those only apply to pubs, you can buy alcohol whenever and wherever you want.
;^)
>>58838616
Read you faggot.
evada and Louisiana are the only two states where casino-style gambling is legal statewide. Both state and local governments impose licensing and zoning restrictions. All other states that allow casino-style gambling restrict it to small geographic areas (e.g., Atlantic City, New Jersey or Tunica, Mississippi), or to American Indian reservations, some of which are located in or near large citie
The vast majority of states do have casinos. They are just located on indian land or cities tha allow it.
>>58838631
>WE HAVE STATE CASINOS AND LOTTERY
M8, the point is you can't walk into a bar and start betting on a football game with m8s. That shits completely illegal in the US, and if that's not a Nanny stat I don't know what is.
>>58837759
>Pre-election budget just released
>Every Aussie news site and most big international sites report on it
>dailymail.co.uk
Could you be any more cuckolded?
>they can't purchase alcohol until they are 21
>>58838680
>The vast majority of states do have casinos. They are just located on indian land or cities tha allow it.
You're brainwashed if you think that's acceptable, you should be able to gamble whenever and wherever you want. You've lived too long in a nanny state.
>>58838328
KEK
>>58838680
>designated freedom zones
>>58838589
>>58838616
Here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casinos_in_the_United_States
Most states have casinos.
>>58838655
>those only apply to pubs
And in America you can buy alcohol all the time as long as you don't live in a yellow or red county which are not the majority.
>>58838680
>All other states that allow casino-style gambling restrict it to small geographic areas
DESIGNATED GAMBLING AREAS
>>58838738
>Most states have casinos.
And gambling outside of them is still illegal you mongloid
>>58838738
And here we can buy it wherever and whenever we want, outside of the central district of 1 (one) city. Whereas it's restricted in almost half your country.
So fucking glad I'm leaving this country in a couple of weeks.
It was honestly a great place to grow up but the nanny state garbage and housing market is a fucking joke. I probably lived in the worst of it too, being in Sydney.
Anyway, catch yas later ya cunts.
>>58838704
>>58838739
But you have far less casinos than us m8s.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_casinos#Australia
Just a small handful per state.
>>58838794
You dumb cunt, restricted trading laws apply to the whole of NSW. No bottles shops or takeaway sales from pubs after 10pm.
>>58838798
>Sydney
>Australia
>>58838808
Not a problem because we don't NEED them to gamble
>Online gambling has been more strictly regulated. The Federal Wire Act of 1961 outlawed interstate wagering on sports but did not address other forms of gambling. It has been the subject of court cases. The Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act of 2006 (UIEGA) did not specifically prohibit online gambling; instead, it outlawed financial transactions involving online gambling service providers. Some offshore gambling providers reacted by shutting down their services for US customers.
LAND OF THE FREE!
>>58838794
>almost half
>the south is almost half of the country
Nice try
>>58838765
That doesn't mean gambling is banned you idiot.
>>58838808
YOU CAN GAMBLE ANYWHERE YOU WANT
We can gamble anywhere we want because we don't live in a Nanny State
>>58838832
>That doesn't mean gambling is banned you idiot.
If it's banned in 99% of the country which it is because it only allowed in tiny casinos. Then it's banned
>>58838825
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_banned_in_Australia
Kek if you think we are as nanny as you
Did any of you tards even bother reading about the change in taxation?
>>58838844
>We don't live in a nanny state
>Australia
>Not a nanny state
>>58838876
>banned 99% of the country
How is it banned in 99% of the country when most states have casinos you idiot? See>>58838738
Restrictions do not equal a ban.
>>58838896
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_banned_in_the_United_States
:^)
>>58838844
N8gger you are such a nanny state even a Canadian made fun of you for it
http://m.s mh.com.au/nsw/nanny-state-rules-making-australia-worlds-dumbest-nation-tyler-brl-20150526-gh9myx.html
>>58838927
>States are percentages
wew lad
casinos make up less than 1% of america's land
>>58838927
>when most states have casinos
Because you can't gamble outside of casinos, which I can only assume is most of the country
>>58838969
>mobile poster
of course
>>58838949
>few state and city bans
Wow it's nothing.
Meanwhile the bans I linked are on a federal-level in your country, idiot.
>>58838949
>1979
>Monty Python's Life of Brian
>Banned for showing controversial themes about Christianity.[1]
wew
>No Gambling in over 99% of the country
>Alcohol severely restricted or controlled in almost half the country
>Go to jail for Marijuana
>>58837917
nerd
>>58839020
Several christfag towns. Pretty much nothing.
Your censorship is far worse m8 because yours is on a federal level.
>>58838975
Casinos make up less than 1% of your land too.
>>58838978
>says that gambling is banned when in fact most states have casinos
>y-yeah but you cant gamble out of them
Lel nice goalpost shifting
>>58838949
I like this combination.
>>58838822
kek
>>58839099
If it's only allowed in casinos then it's effectively banned
>Casinos make up less than 1% of your land too.
Yes but we can gamble anywhere and don't need casinos
>Online gambling is literally banned in US
>>58839099
>Casinos make up less than 1% of your land too.
But we don't need casinos because we can gamble anywhere. You can't gamble in 99% of your land because 99% of your land isn't casinos.
>>58839044
>alcohol severely restricted
Nah. Just some controls. Only red counties ban alcohol.
Your states have alcohol lockout laws too like NSW.
>can go to jail for weed
We already have four states that legalize it and more to follow. Meanwhile it's illegal everywhere in your country.
>half the country
You what. Pic related is not even half the country.
>>58837913
>A FUCKING LASER POINTER
>>58839189
>Your states have alcohol lockout laws too like NSW.
You mean a single city has a law that applies to a very small part of that city
>>58839189
>Nah. Just some controls.
You'd have to live in a brainwashed nanny state to think that's acceptable
>>58839148
>it's effectively banned
No, it's just restricted. And you can still gamble outside of casinos. State lotteries and racetracks for example.
>>58839187
>what are state run lotteries
is it true that americans aren't allowed to hire prostitutes?
>>58839265
>state run lotteries
>he can only gamble when the state says it's OK
That's doubleplus ungood for freedoms
>>58839265
>And you can still gamble outside of casinos. State lotteries and racetracks for example.
Are all Americans this cucked?
>>58839276
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_the_United_States
>Prostitution in the United States is illegal in the vast majority of the United States
>>58839249
I never said it was. It's just that our situation is much better than yours. You are deluded if you think we are as nanny as you because most of your nanny laws apply to the whole country while ours are on a state by state basis.
>>58839332
top lel
>america
>free
>smoking
>drinking
>>58839293
>>58839308
Still not a ban on gambling like you previously said.
http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-30/australia-bans-220-video-games-in-four-months/6582100
JUST BAN MY SHIT UP
>>58838906
where do you think you are?
>>58839348
Alcohol is not heavily regulated here as it is in the US, your government even tried to ban it outright. Drug possession is nowhere near as harshly punished. Gambling is perfectly legal throughout the entire country and can be done anywhere anytime. Prostitution is 100% legal.
Your country was founded by religious puritans, which still make up a large part of the country.
>while ours are on a state by state basis.
>>58839293
>>58839308
>there are no restrictions on gambling in cuckstralia
Sure thing m8s
http://m.sm h.com.au/business/government-bans-inplay-betting-on-sports-dealing-blow-to-tom-waterhouse-20160428-goh0wp.html
>>58839387
>Material that has been refused classification is illegal to sell, advertise and publicly exhibit in Australia.
>what is steam
>what is pirate bay
>what is importing
>>58839417
Nice strawman faggot
>>58839417
Get off your phone retard no one is clicking your fucking broken-arse links.
Live betting is restricted but not banned, you can do it over the phone but not online. Neither of those poster said gambling was completely unrestricted.
>>58839410
Sure your alcohol restrictions are less than ours, but you tax it to shit. Our drinking age might be bit higher and you have some counties in the south that ban sales but it's much cheaper here.
You ban smokeless tobacco.
Meanwhile our freedom of speech is better, censorship laws are better, we have states that legalized weed, beter gun rights, no dumb fuck helmet or plain packaging laws, alcohol and tobacco isn't taxed to shit, and we don't ban laser pointers, hoverboards or fucking yoyo waerballs.
>>58839410
>your government even tried to ban it outright
When was that, 80 or 90 years ago?
> Drug possession is nowhere near as harshly punished
There is literally not a place in your country where smoking marijuana recreationally is legal.
>>58839479
DUDE WEED AND STRAWMEN LMAO
>>58839454
>have to pirate because his country bans cerain games
Kek
>>58839471
You were shitting on us for having restrictions on gambling but it's ok when you do it? Nice double standard faggot.
Gambling isn't banned here either.
>>58839511
Memeing about it doesn't change the fact that you literally can't smoke weed.
>>58839519
That wasn't me lad but he was clearly pulling your leg.
>>58839472
And the only thing Cuckfailians can do is link to bans in some states. Our situation is far better than yours because our nanny laws are mainly on a state basis while most of yours is by the federal government.
>>58839472
>Meanwhile our freedom of speech is better
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index
>Australia (25)
>United States (41)
>>58839549
>press freedom is freedom of speech
Kek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_Australia
>>58839519
>his country bans cerain games
They aren't banned though, they've only been refused classification. Perfectly legal to buy from overseas and posses.
>>58839519
Are you the only American in this thread or are all of them really bad at arguing? I can't tell if you're underaged or retarded or what, but every post you make is strawmanning.
>have to pirate games
after
>what is steam
>what is importing
>>58839542
The statement wasn't "more drugs are legal" it was "drug possession is less harshly punished".
>>58839549
>press freedom = freedom of speech
>>58839549
>New Zealand (5)
>>58839570
You are not allowed to legally sell it in your country. Tha's the point.
>American tries to start shit with Australia
>+1 week of bullying Americans
Thanks a lot.
>>58839569
>it's all about doing things in public
Wow now you can't run up to abos and scream nigger at them in the middle of your street, only in your home
>>58839578
>he has to import games from overseas because it's not allowed to be legally sold in his cunt
nanny
a
n
n
y
>>58839599
How is that banned though, 100% legal to buy. It means you just can't sell it
>It began innocently enough for Ashley Huff. The 23-year-old was riding in the passenger seat of a car when police in Gainesville, Georgia, pulled the car over for a routine traffic stop. When cops searched Huff's bag, they found a spoon that was covered in a mysterious residue. It was dirty, Huff explained, because she had recently eaten SpaghettiOs and placed the dirty spoon in a bag in order to return it to a friend. Officers thought it might be methamphetamine, so they conducted a field test -- which reportedly came back positive. Huff was charged with possession of methamphetamine and spent two weeks behind bars before being released.
http://m.s mh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/play-ball-not-bolt-in-free-speech-debate-20111027-1mm4h.html
Nice "free speech" lel
>>58839626
>he's forced to import immigrants from overseas because he has no borders
>>58839634
It's banned in the sense that it's banned from being sold in your country. Thus you have to import it from overseas.
>In another case of mistaken substance identity, 26-year-old Annadel Cruz and 30-year-old Alexander Bernstein were booked on cocaine trafficking charges in Pennsylvania last year when police officers refused to believe that two bars of homemade soap in her car were not actually cocaine. After being pulled over in Lehigh County, Pennsylvania, troopers said they smelled marijuana in the car. Cruz admitted to having smoked earlier in the day, according to the Morning Call. When officers found the soap in the car, they tested it and it came back positive, Lehigh Valley Live reported. The pair spent the next month in jail, presumably unable to post bail, which was set at $500,000 for Bernstein and $250,000 for Cruz.
>All speech isn't free, as Wesley Force of New Bern, North Carolina, found out last year when he was arrested and taken to jail for saying the word "fuck" in public. Force was eventually released without bond, but when he returned for a court date the next month, a judge sentenced him to 10 days in jail. He was allowed to serve his hard time at home while wearing an electronic monitoring device.
>Arrest of this nature are rare, but not unheard of. A mother was arrested in South Carolina earlier this year for swearing in front of her children at a supermarket.
>>58839655
What's wrong with it? The test was positive.
http://www.domini.org/openbook/australia200309012.htm
Nice freedom of speech or lack thereof auscucks
>In 2012, school districts in Meridian, Mississippi, came under heavy scrutiny for overseeing what the Justice Department called a "school-to-prison pipeline," in which students were regularly referred to juvenile detention centers for even the most minor infractions. In a letter unveiling the findings of a federal investigation, the Justice Department explained that some students had been incarcerated for things like “dress code violations, flatulence, profanity and disrespect.”
At least their immigration is done on a need based basis (i.e. they need 10,000 medical specialists, so they find the most qualified specialists who want to immigrate and they allow in 10,000). Pretty good model for how we should be doing things.
>>58839704
>Huff was later thrown back in jail in August, where she remained for a month and a half until more thorough lab results on her spoon came back. They revealed that she'd actually only been guilty of possession of SpaghettiOs sauce all along.
They lied about doing the test
>>58839724
>be american
>fart
>get shot by police
>>58839723
>The judge sentenced them to print an apology—drafted by the judge—on their website, in their newsletter, and in eight advertisements appearing in two newspapers. The pastors appealed. The Supreme Court of Victoria overturned the Tribunal's decision. The Court said the Tribunal had no business "attempt[ing] to assess the theological propriety of what was asserted at the Seminar."
wow it's fucking nothing
>>58837759
I guess living in Australia is very boring. Everything is banned and what isn't banned expensive.
>>58839807
>you can go to court for making fun of muslims in cuckfailia
nice free speech lol
>>58839842
it's really not that expensive when you take into consideration the minimum wage
>>58839578
>drug possession is less harshly punished
The severity of the punishment doesn't translate into being more or less free, being punished at all means that you are not free.
>>58839842
They have to shitpost because it's the only thrill they still have left. Only a matter of time before their government bans this site as well lel.
>>58839868
As far as I know getting a job is not that easy too so many people are NEETs.
>>58839874
>Getting slapped on the wrist in Australia and told not to do it again, is just as bad as spending 10 years in federal prison in the US
>>58839866
http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/NJ-Girl-Charged-Over-Racist-Tweet-189424821.html
>you can get charged for saying nigger on twitter in united america emirates
http://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2013/06/29/texas-teen-facing-eight-years-after-violent-league-of-legends-threat/#5fac6a4b75ad
>you can get 8 (eight) years in prison for making a joke thread in league of legends in usayylmao
>>58839501
>Sweden
>good
This must have been before the Nyheter idag/Dagens Nyheter scandal about journalists feeding false information about immigrant rape to the people.
>>58839905
They even have a professional immigration, Australia is good for jobs.
>That one American that's obsessed with Australia and posts the same dubious copypasta everytime
>People take the bait everytime he posts this shit
You dumb cunts.
http://desustorage.org/int/search/text/%3Efucking%20YO%20YO%20WATERBALLS%20are%20banned/
hmmmm
>>58839989
It's true tho.
>>58839965
It is good for well educated people. It is muh harder for locals eithout higher education. You can't just become a consultant in some shop in 2 days like here.
>>58840013
He mixes in facts with lies. Part of it's true, part of it isn't.
>>58839934
None of which were convicted.
The same cannot be said about Andrew Bolt though.
>>58840011
>Searching for posts that contain ‘tfw no gf’. Returning only first 1000 of 9258 results found.
>>58839934
>I'm banned from Forbes for using AdBlocker.
As bad as no singles policy.
>>58837759
>Drinkers to pay more for booze
>A $1 billion wine subsidy will be slashed by the federal government, Adelaide Now reports, to help local producers and cull cheaper, bulk wine from shelves.
>The price of a bottle of wine would be forced up by up to $3.80 a bottle, while a beer would cost about five cents more per glass.
>The proposal would raise $2.8 billion a year, according to research from IbisWorld.
>Smokers facing a big jump in the price of cigarettes
>Smokers could be forced to cough up more for each pack of cigarettes, with increases to the current excise likely.
>Labor revealed its plan to implement four increases of 12.5 per cent to the current tax, which would raise about $3.8 billion over the next four years, and $47.7 billion over 10 years according to the Opposition, Sydney Morning Herald reported.
>The Government has refused to rule out adopting a similar proposal.
>Coalition backbencher Ewan Jones threw his support behind an increase earlier this year, saying smokers are an extra burden on the health system.
>'If you're a 25-year-old and you're single and you smoke you have no tax deductions and you're paying an awful lot of tax,' Mr Jones told the ABC.
>'But if you're 65 and you're in hospital getting bits and pieces chopped off you, you owe the taxpayer.'
I don't see the issue.
>>58839922
No, it isn't as bad, but the fact of the matter is that you aren't more free. Even if there is a smaller punishment, it is still against the law and you are not free to do it. There are degrees of freedom, but the severity of the punishment is not related to it at all, if there is any kind of punishment you are not free.
>>58840031
>You can't just become a consultant in some shop in 2 days
What do you need to do? Bring them the head of the Prince Charming? Shops need shop-bois, Country Chicken needs brave men who flip patties, etc.
>>58840192
It's this one guy that continually makes these threads. I mean you can try to get through to him, but best of luck to you.
>>58840192
Because you are a statist faggot.
>>58840192
This pretty much: >>58840312
>>58840260
>I mean you can try to get through to him, but best of luck to you.
Probably easier getting through the North Korean border.
>>58840312
>Le libertarian meme
>>58840394
So one can only be a statist or a libertarian?
Well then, enjoy your tyranny.
>>58840434
If anyone implied that it was >>58840312
>>58840434
Because removing a government subsidy to wine producers is statism. Christ, you people are retarded.
>>58840441
But >>58840192 is clearly a statist, since he sees no issue with the state dictating how one should live their lives.
>>58840475
>since he sees no issue with the state dictating how one should live their lives
Because I see no issue with this particular example, I should see no issue with any policy?
This is why I vote for the Greens
I don't drink wine and I think I can take a 5c hit on my beer. Come back when you have something that's actually worrying.
>>58840394
>>58840470
No. Taxing the shit out of it is though. Fuck off freedom hating cunt.
>>58840475
How retarded are you?
Now you're implying that you can only be either statist or libertarian because if thinking the government should control one or two issues makes you a statist, then everyone else has to be libertarian.
And how is it dictating anything? It's not banning, just discouraging.
Stupid monkey.
>>58840520
>This is why I vote for the Greens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH_MBwQhGgA
>>58840545
Chinese buying everything up and the Government letting them do it with impunity.
>>58840545
>implying it's only five cents
lol
>>58840037
Actually all of the copypasta is true. I can provide citations next time if you want.
>>58840562
>it's not banning, just discouraging
Taxing cigarettes to cost-prohibitive levels may not be a ban, but it's damn close to one.
$30 for a pack of 25 cigs is cost-prohibitive (and frankly ridiculous).
>>58840578
The things that are banned are true, the rest of it is either super biased and exaggerated (hate speech, guns), harmless (plain packaging) or shows how retarded you are (expensive games).
>>58840634
It's not ridiculous when they fuck health, shit up the air and provide literally no benefit.
>>58840551
So the government is paying for their healthcare but it's ridiculous to tax or disincentivize things which would contribute to health complications?
>>58840569
How else are we supposed to keep interest rates row and property prices high?
Fuck anyone under 40, just let all the old cunts cash in on houses they bought 30 years ago for $100k. Am I right????
>>58840634
This is just me, but I'm not a smoker and from what I can see smoking does take a toll on a persons health. So why should i care if it costs a bit more
>>58840701
Do you drink? Because alcohol also seems to be overpriced in Australia. $40 for a litre of vodka, I believe?
>>58840739
Everything is overpriced in Australia compared to just about anywhere, except Scandinavia.
We earn more, we spend more.
>>58840739
40 AUD, which is about 30 USD. You think 30 USD for a liter of vodka is overpriced?
>>58840792
It would be here.
Of course we don't get Australian salaries, but to put in perspective a litre of Smirnoff is $10 (US dollars) here. And that's one of the expensive ones, we could get cheaper vodka for a third of that.
>>58840578
Here I'll do it.
>no right to free speech, hate speech
laws out the ass
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_speech_laws_in_Australia
>downright draconian gun laws
Australia bans the vast majority of guns. You can only own bolt action or lever action: ://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_laws_in_Australia
>need a license for fucking air rifles
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gun_laws#Australia
>airsoft is banned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gun_laws#Australia
>LASER pointers are banned
The only laser pointers you can own are under 1 mw. Thus the vast majority are banned
http://www.ozlasers.com/australian-laser-laws
>fucking YO YO WATERBALLS are banned
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/981256
>novelty toy-like lighters are banned
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/973479
>smokeless tobacco is banned
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/974275
>toys containing beads are banned
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/981255
>need a helmet to ride a fucking bicycle
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicycle_helmets_in_Australia
>plain packaging on cigarettes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plain_tobacco_packaging
>absurdly high taxation on alcohol and cigarettes
See the OP.
>many violent games and movies banned
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_video_games_in_Australia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_banned_in_Australia
>video games are expensive as shit
Google this one im too lazy.
>no self defense allowed
If you harm a burglar or a thief you will go to jail: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-defence_(Australia)
>hoverboards banned
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1018548
Gg auscucks
>>58840739
majority of things here are overpriced, especially cost of living which is rising.Thats the only one that's worrying.
people here are too apathetic, and the ones that aren't usually give up or are silenced
>>58840668
>muh healthcare costs
Again, smokers end up costing less overall because they die earlier. You don't have to pay for pensions nor do you have to take care of them as they grow older.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748884.html?referer=
45 dollars for a pack of cigarettes is nanny state insanity.
>>58840639
No. The hate speech thing is true (see andrew bolt incident)
You ban the vast majority of guns only allowing a few types that are basically bolt action and lever action while greatly reatricting the rest.
Plain packaging is nanny state shit etc
Right, I don't know a helluva lot about anything, but I'm going to wrap my head around how fucked the aussies are in 2 seconds flat.
How much is a 36 pack of cheap beer in austrailia? Not disgusting tier, but not fancy either. In Wisconsin it's around 12.50 US, or around 16.66 Austrailian.
>>58840578
>>58840578
You mean like the bit where you pretended that Andrew Bolt was sent to prison? Or did somebody else do that one?
>no right to free speech
People say offensive things here all the time and don't get arrested for it. So even though it's there, it's poorly enforced, often not at all.
>draconian gun laws
Yeah that one is true.
>airsoft is banned
Not surprising, but you literally couldn't pay me to care about airsoft.
>Laser pointers are banned
You can still buy them, although the fad for those died about 15 or 20 years ago here. So I think you'd be hard pressed finding somebody affected by that.
>Yo yo waterballs
Don't know what those are, so I can't comment.
>Toy like lighters are banned
Not true. Pretty much any tobacconist you go to will sell them. Believe it or not they don't get raided by the cops, either.
>Smokeless tobacco is banned.
Okay, may well be. Again, doesn't really affect anybody.
1/2
>>58840990
>>58840578
>Toys containing beads
That kind of shit gets advertised and sold all the time. Unless it's only in one or two states where the ban exists. Other than that I'm not sure what you're on about there.
>Need a helmet to ride a bicycle
Yes, we're well aware of this one. People chosing to break their skulls open in your country is all well and good because they have to pay for it themselves. Healthcare is subsidised here, so obviously they're going to try to take measures to cut spending later down the track.
>Plain packaging on cigarettes.
Yeah, true. But I've got to be honest, most people here find it pretty difficult to give a shit about the plight of big tobacco. Yes, I know it's an authoritarian thing to do, but I really couldn't give a shit that not every concession is being made to big tobacco and most people are similar. Besides, it's not like they're going broke.
>Absurd taxation on alcohol and cigs.
Yep, can't be denied. Although that one's motivated more by sheer greed than any controlling or "caring" factors. But having said that, it's not like people can't afford the shit anyway.
>Violent videogames are banned.
I think you're confusing refused classification with banned, but I see your point. However, it's poorly policed or not at all if anything. Most stuff that's refused can still be purchased with no dramas at all and frequently is.
>no self defense allowed
That one is an outright lie; unless you're talking about guns again. Although there are even provisions, albeit incredibly narrow ones that allow certain civilians to defend themselves using firearms, too.
>Hoverboards banned
I just looked into this one. Apparently they're trying to stop faulty products from being sold. I can't really argue with that desu. Also you might like to see this:
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/03/us-officially-bans-hoverboard-imports/
>>58840966
>Again, smokers end up costing less overall because they die earlier
So not only do we save money on smokers, we get more money from them by taxing them. Seems like a win win.
>>58840990
"First they came for the..."
>>58841030
If you're applying that logic then americans should be really fucking worried that Kinder eggs are banned
>>58841030
Please tell me more about how Brazil is a free and sensible country.
>>58840966
>http://mobile.nytimes.com/2008/02/05/health/05iht-obese.1.9748884.html?referer=
Eyy, ok, that makes sense.
>>58841063
Wasn't that ban lifted?
>>58841064
It's not, which is the more reason why I have this stance.
>>58840990
See >>58840882
Andrew Bolt didn't go to jail but he was convicted of hate speech. They only reason he wasn't punished was because the abbos didn't seek damages.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Andrew_Bolt&mobileaction=toggle_view_desktop
That would never happen in America because we have freedom of speech.
The toy like novelty lighter ban is true, whether or not it is enforced is another debate.
https://www.productsafety.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/973479
>>58841084
No lmao
>>58841030
First they came for the murderers but i wasn't a murderer
Then they came for the pedos but i wasn't a pedo
Then they came for the rapists but i wasn't a rapist
see how dumb that is?
>>58841118
>smoking, drinking and gambling are the same as murder
OK
all anglo politician taxmen should be purged.
>>58840792
It is what the fuck, im not paying more than 8-10 bucks for vodka wtf.
>>58841149
>using different examples to show how shitty a quote is is equating examples to other examples
OK
but 2bh smoking could be classified as murder and or suicide from poisoning
>>58841104
Actually while I've got you here, I need to ask you something: What is your motivation for all of this?
I've seen you post this copypasta many times before. Do you legitmately hate us, or is this for bantz related purposes? Nothing wrong with you being sort of right, but it just seems odd for somebody to compile a list of things like that and have citations for every single one. I don't mean to be that guy, but you sound like you're pretty bored a lot of the time.
>>58841205
you're a professional retard i see
>>58841238
Because you keep shitposting about muh kinder eggs when your country is way worse than us when it comes to nanny and dumb laws.
>>58841254
hang yourself it's quicker
>>58841272
So bantz then? Because I can assure you that nobody here actually gives a shit about kinder eggs. At least I hope they don't, anyway. Grown adults worrying about chocolates in another country would be even weirder than what you've done.
>>58841286
why don't you kill yourself to escape your own stupidity retard
>>58840983
>>58840983
Any cunts wanna tell me how much it takes to get smashed in desert-bug-abbo land?
>>58841314
since apparently the younger you die the less strain you put on the healthcare system why haven't you offed yourself yet?
>>58841272
No one actually cares about the easter eggs thing, stay triggered
>>58841348
bitter irony is that your statement literally applies to everyone who ever lived
>>58841348
>caring about the healthcare system over yourself
lel
Do it for the hive, fucking ant.
>>58840983
>>58841329
A 36 can block usually runs you upwards of $40 AUD, so about $30 USD. But mid strength and light beer tends to be sold a bit cheaper, though I don't know why anybody even wastes time with that shit.
>>58837845
They can take our booze and fags, but they'll never take our eggs
>>58841374
yeah but people who aren't complete fucking retards don't believe that first part
>>58841329
>>58841416
But if you're talking about actual Abbos they technically do it for free since the govt usually gives them their money.
>>58841272
So what are your thoughts on >>58838236 ?
>>58841416
We have counties in Minnesota that serve that shit on sunday, I think it's like half the alcoholic content of regular beer. Never seen anybody but a desperate cunt drink that shit.
30 USD (three fuckin times what I pay) is out-fuckin-raegous
>>58841441
which part do you refer to
also fuck you
>>58841478
Yes but I'll put it to you this way: If you live in Australia and $40 is a lot of money to you, you have much bigger problems than the price of beer, because that amount of money is no big thing. Even dole bludgers will shell that out and still have tonnes left over. It seems like a lot because you're used to the economic situation where you live. Yes, it could be cheaper and frankly I wish it was, but it's only putting alcoholics in the poor house.
>>58841543
I donno, I make like 1000 a week and I still pay 15 dollars for 2 liters of decent vodka.
I drink about 2 liters a week but I'm a tiny bit of an alcoholic by wisconsin standards.
>>58841504
>since apparently the younger you die the less strain you put on the healthcare system
That part.
If you die young the healthcare system is fucking pointless. The whole idea of healthcare is health, but apparently smokers fucking their shit up and wasting money on shit that could've been avoided is OK because "they die earlier". If they're really that keen about saving the healthcare system money, they should off themselves now.
>>58841597
>If you die young the healthcare system is fucking pointless
it's never predetermined if they die or not, the system is there to try
people have so much confidence in medical science but it fails so often
>221 posts
>37 posters
lmao at all of your lives right now
>>58841470
Not him but every instance in that picture is unconstitutional and would be struck down in a court of law
you Sorry Daysians don't have a constitution to protect your rights when tyrannical governments attempt to infringe on them
>>58841543
The average income, both in PPP and nominal values, is higher in the US than in Australia.
Sure, they have to pay for health insurance, but on the other hand they don't have to pay absurd taxes, so I think they're better off.
>>58841588
Then you're living the dream I guess? It's hard for me to care much since I don't drink as much these days as I used to and the last bottle of spirits I got cost me practically nothing.
>>58841638
I'd argue that medical science isn't failing all that often. I'd say that often times the patient in question is well and truly fucked before they step into the hospital.
>Hi there, my tumbly a rumbly
Okay, let's get a CT abdomen
>Fuckin all the cancer. All of it
>Patient dies
>Considered a medical failure.
>>58841688
I wasn't aware it was a pissing contest. But if it is: shut the fuck up. Your country is rooted mate.
>mfw Brazilian liveleak
>>58841691
So, spirits are cheaper then? I would have assumed that the price would be exorbitant.
>>58841588
>15 dollars for 2 liters of decent vodka
Please tell me you're exaggerating.
>>58841676
We have a constitution, it just doesn't do all the same things yours does.
>>58841719
Well, you (or that person >>58841543) implied that economic conditions for australians are better than for americans and that would justify goods being more expensive. I argued why that wouldn't be true.
>>58841733
No, they're overpriced, too. But if you can find somebody that distills their own you can buy it for dirt cheap and it's much better quality than anything you'll find at the bottleshop anyway. The other day I got a 1L bottle of homemade rum for pruning a bush in someone's front yard. It's stronger than OP rum, but smoother than anything I'd be able to find in a shop. So for somebody that doesn't drink a lot I'll be set for a while.
>>58841739
You want decent, doesn't give you a hangover vodka? 15-17. You want good shit? 21 dollars. You want to import Stoli from russia? 28 dollars. You want absolute fucking gutrot? 9 dollars.
>>58841763
At best I sort of implied that Australians in general earn more and that that amount of money isn't much to most people here. I never said anything about all economic conditions being better. Even a low-wage earner in the US has it better in some ways just because of how insanely cheap everything is there.
>>58841780
That sounds nice. I'm the same way with weed. Somebody can offer me like 2-3 grams and I'm good for like 3 months. Can't handle anything but booze.
I'd unironically like to see how far the government goes.
>>58841821
Ah well I'm the other way. I'll smoke a shitload and only get so high off it, but I'm still fairly sensitive to alcohol. Although I am out of practice, too.
>>58841840
Read some of Vonnegut's short stories such as Welcome to the Monkey House and Harrison Bergeron and tone it down a little. It would be like that if left totally unchecked.
>>58841882
I tell myself I'll buy some weed to lessen my caloric intake, and then when I smoke I wake up having eaten a crockpot full of meatballs and a box of toaster strudels. I am a retard.
>>58841911
We had that period already. Pic related.
>>58841913
Yeah you can't kid yourself, or I can't, anyway. Everytime I get high I know I'm about to eat more than I normally would. Still losing weight though.
>>58841989
I try to fill my cupboard with nothing but awful healthy shit and not give myself a choice to eat delicious unhealthy food. And then I drink like a fish and stay at the same weight.
>>58842082
You can make some really tasty snacks with healthy food, it's just a fuckaround to do it.
>>58842156
>hmm, I'm hungry
>what should I eat?
>Oh, I didn't prepare 24 hours ago so I guess I'm going to eat eggs on bread or a bowl of cereal
Pretty much how I coast through life. I eat an orange to prevent scurvy.
>>58842194
I know what you mean, I'm the same when it comes to that. I need to get a few recipies off my dad's gf the nex time they're in town. She makes the tastiest healthfood snacks I've ever eaten. You wouldn't believe how good they are.
>>58837845
>no self defense allowed
Where do yanks get this sort of misinformation?
>>58842277
>get recipe
>Try it once
>it took longer than 10 minutes so fuck it
If I'm splurging I'll get one of those cans of panang curry and mix in the coconut cream stuff. Shit is the bomb but pretty much the same as eating pure fucking fat.
>>58842310
Go back through the thread and read his motivations for that copypasta. He was triggered and then compiled the list out of anger and lack of a life.
>>58842320
I don't mind spending 30 minutes prepping if it's good, but anything over that is stretching it a bit.
But yeah sometimes packet mixes, although I don't like using them. I would rather just taste whatever flavour food naturally has than mix those in usually.
>>58842445
What's your go to 10 minute meal? What's your, "I'm lazy so fuck it" meal?
>>58842510
Meat and vegetables. I can fry up some meat in about 10-20 minutes, a bit quicker if it's chicken, turkey or fish. Then I'll usually just heat up some frozen veggies in the microwave since it only takes about five minutes too. As a matter of fact I'm doing that right now. I've got some sausage and bacon frying up and I'm going to heat up some veggies to go with it real soon.
>>58842510
>>58842662
What's yours?
>>58837759
glad I dont smoke or drink
>>58842688
Honestly It's gotta be just fucking lean porkchop in a pan. Just meat and a v8 on the side because I feel guilty for treating my body like a methed up prostitute.
>>58842734
>things that nobody has ever said
