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New general/best general edition

pt. 2

OLD: >>58777776
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what about italy
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Hljóðs biðk allar
hęlgar kindir
męiri ok minni
mǫgu Hęimdallar;
vildu at, Valfǫðr,
vęl fyrir tęljak
forn spjǫll fíra,
þaus fręmst of man.
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Alle apje kutje
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>>58786747
It's about Germanic speakers, not ethnicity.
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Eerste voor een vrij en onafhankelijk Vlaanderen
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Ek man jǫtna
ár of borna,
þás forðum mik
fǫdda hǫfðu;
níu mank hęima,
níu íviði,
mjǫtvið mæran
fyr mold neðan.
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>>58786747
>what about italy
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>>58786770

(YOU)
Where to find good Icelandic recordings in order to learn the language with proper pronunciation? Sagas and shit, yo
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>>58786747
What about Argentina?
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>>58786838
search björks kutje
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>>58786880
>björks kutje
Hippie pussy: not even once
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>>58786682
Ich hatte funf jahren Deutsch in Mittelschule gehat aber ich spreche es immer noch nicht.
Ich kann es verstehen aber das ist alles. Wenn ich es muss schreiben dann lauft alles in der supe.
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We moeten nationalisme vervangen met pan-Germanisme. Alleen zo kun je een functionele unie maken.
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good to see there has been a unilateral solution for "great" britain
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>>58786834
>>58786875
You guys know that the Italics are also direct descendants of the ancient germanic tribe, yes?
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>>58786838
Old Norse pronunciation is fairly different from Icelandic pronunciation. The first grammatical treatise describes this for us quite well. If you want, you can just ignore the original pronunciations and go with modern Icelandic pronunciations instead.
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>>58786920
Ich kann nicht mehr Deutsch studieren, weil ich kein Geld für Uni haben...
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>>58786920
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>>58786958
yes, and their forefathers were the well-known Times New Roman (not to be confused with the Calibris)
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>>58786958
>the ancient germanic tribe
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>>58786920
Bist du mir?
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>>58786949
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>>58787040
Yeah, a lot of Italians are Germanic.

Sicily got conquered by Normans and you also have the Lombards in North-Italy.
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>>58786976
Ok, but I don't know modern Icelandic either. I have found this video of the Hávamál recited:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=542kb9SxBW8&index=31&list=WL

which is all kinds of cool (look at my pun and despair), but it only contains isolated verses, which doesn't foster my study much
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>>58787012
Kannst du aber. Man braucht keine Uni, um eine neue Sprache zu lernen. Fang einfach an, Deutsch in deiner Freizeit zu lernen.

Vor 15 Jahren konnte ich fast gar kein Deutsch aber jetzt spreche ich es auf einem anständigen Niveau. Alles ist möglich, wenn man wirklich versucht.
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>>58787018
>dvw alles in de soep kankert
Bedankt, Obama
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>>58787131
>Vor 15 Jahren
vor 15 Monaten*

I should probably go to bed soon lol
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>taking a massive shit in the restroom
>guy in the next stall starts talking to me in Dutch
>I say wat
>Dutchman: "Sorry I thought you were speaking to me in Dutch"
Anyone else had this happen?
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Your language's 2bh:
Dutch: oetz
German : uezs
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>>58786958
DELET THIS

ITALY WUZ ROMANZ N SHIET
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>>58787131
erstaunlich: ich gratuiliere dir
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>>58787202
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>>58787194
That's German. German sounds like farting.
Dutch is throat-cancer.
>American education
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>>58787131
Ich möchte swedish gelernt.

It seems really easy, it might be a better language to self teach as my first second language.
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>>58787202
>>58787090
>>58787040
>>58787022
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indoeurop%C3%A4er#Die_Kurgan-Hypothese
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italiker
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I want to rape and pillage her KANKER.
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>>58787258
NIGRESS
I
G
R
E
S
S

>>58787300
DELET
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>>58787337
she is such a fun milf
bet she's really naughty
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>>58787293
>>gelernt

that's a participle. the word you are looking for is "lernen"

The difficulty will depend mostly on your motivation, or lack thereof
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>>58787370
Her laugh is great too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6BeK4b7k_4
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>>58787300
Hast du ein Italienische name oder was ?
Sie sind Untermensch uez
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>>58787293
It would be easier to learn than German but it's not as relevant & useful.

The great benefit to learning a language like German is that you can play games in German, which aids you in the learning process. I've actually learned a ton of conversational German simply by playing The Witcher 3 in German (which is pretty good actually).
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>>58787370
>she is such a fun milf
What did he mean by this?
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>>58787413
Yeah, my bad. I fuck that up often, I know how it's supposed to be but it always comes out wrong for some reason haha.
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>>58787441
>I've actually learned a ton of conversational German simply by playing The Witcher 3 in German (which is pretty good actually).
How do you do that, Mr. Norwegian? Do you have a process with learning words and phrases or do you remember it naturally as you play the game?
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>>58787424
aangegeven voor koningslastering
>>58787459
that she is a milf and fun
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>>58787441
Do you play with subtitles or just the German audio?
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VERWIJDER ANGELSAKSEN
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>>58787424

>tfw president the manletest

Kill me already
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>>58787486
This will only help if you're an advanced learner who already has a good grasp on the language. If you're a beginner it will just be frustrating because you won't be able to understand enough to enjoy the game.

I simply play it. I don't try to remember things unless I notice a grammatical construct or way of saying something that I've never seen before.

>>58787507
With German subs.
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>>58787091
If your goal is to learn Old Norse, I don't really know what to say except that the poetic stuff (e.g. Hávamál or Vǫluspá) is very challenging compared to the prose (e.g. Heimskringla). The Skaldic art was very very sophisticated and requires intimate knowledge with the language.

You're also doing it from a different background from mine in that you don't speak Norwegian, Icelandic or German (I assume). So whereas I could enjoy access to all kinds of wonderful ON resources written in Danish, Icelandic and German, you're going to be more limited.

According to Dr. Jackson Crawford, and I can confirm that this is a good guy who knows his shit:

>The best resource for learning Old Norse on your own is the “New Introduction to Old Norse” by Michael Barnes which you can find as a set of .pdf files free from the publisher here: http://vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/

Link to the actual introduction:

http://www.vsnrweb-publications.org.uk/NION-1.pdf

My honest advice is to first learn as much modern Icelandic as you can, and then start doing Old Norse.
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>>58787559
fucking kek
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>>58787559
>called Hollande
>president of France

can't make this shit up senpai
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>>58787610
OY VEY
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>>58787610
I hate when someone says "Hollande" / "Hollandais" instead of "Pays-Bas"/" Néerlandais"
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Kalmarunion+>Holy >Roman >Empire?
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>>58787687
you are officially mon copain
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>>58787588
>you don't speak Norwegian, Icelandic or German

I can read all those

Thank you for your book recommendation, I'll give it a try
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>>58787687
Me too.
>inb4 angry farmer
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>>58787687
Hollandaisesås à la carte?
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>>58787784
>Holland
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>>58787822
:^)
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wo sind die Deutschen?
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>>58787748
alright, in that case you might look into these resources:
>online English-Norse dictionary
norse.ulver.com/dct/zoega/
>Jan de Vries: Altnordisches Etymologisches Woerterbuch
https://zh.scribd.com/doc/78998246/Altnordisches-Etymologisches-Woerterbuch-Jan-de-Vries-2000-Compressed
>Finnur Jónsson: Den norsk-islandske skjaldedigtning.
http://www.abdn.ac.uk/skaldic/db.php?table=skj&vol=BI&page=1&go=go
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>>58787876
in Deutschland
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>>58787880
>Woerterbuch
serves me right for copypasting blindly. *Wörterbuch
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>>58787918
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Why are Germanics so racist?
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>>58787300
>https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indoeurop%C3%A4er#Die_Kurgan-Hypothese
>hypothesis

>facts
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>>58787932
>Woerterbuch
that's good German orthography as well, the one even recommended by grammarians when there arent umlauts available

thank you for your suggestions btw!
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>>58787946
fosters leb-abo hybrid go walkabout somewhere else
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>>58787747
Net kanker

>>58787763
It sounds wrong and that rip my autism jesus

>>58787784
Jag heter Sven bråmson
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>>58787946

Learn what is xenophobia, then racism.
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>>58787876
hier
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All the true Germanics are asleep right now, will make new thread tomorrow morning.
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>>58788217
Welterusten :3
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>>58788217
dvw
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As indicated above, the -sk form of the verb consists for the most part of an -sk suffix added to existing endings. Where the final sound in an ending is -r, this is assimilated to the s and the resulting ss is then simplified (e.g. finnsk ‘is found’, 3rd sg. present indic., < *finnssk < *finnrsk). Where the final sound of an ending is -ð or -t, the juxtaposition with s is rendered z (e.g. fœðizk ‘are brought up’, 2nd pl. present indic., < *fœðiðsk; cf. 2.1.3). This applies even where ð or t is juxtaposed to s after the assimilation of r as just outlined (e.g. gezk ‘is begotten’, 3rd sg. present indic., < getsk < *getssk < *getrsk).

In older texts the 1st person singular forms deviate from this pattern: they appear with an -umk ending attached to the plural root of the relevant tense and mood (e.g. ek kǫllumk ‘I am called’, with labially mutated root kall-, ek ráðumk frá ‘I refrain from’, with root ráð-, contrast ek ræð ‘I advise’). 1st person -sk verbs are not very common at all, however, especially 1st person singular (and very rarely do they have passive sense either in the singular or plural, cf. ráðumk above). In younger texts not only is the 1st person sg. -umk replaced by the 2nd/3rd person sg. form, but a bewildering variety of suffixes is found as well as or in place of -sk, -umk. The more common are -zk (which spreads from its original domain, cf. above), -s, -z, -st and -zt; hybrids such as 1st sg. -umsk, -ums also occur.

Ultimately, the -st form replaces all the others, and is the one used in modern Icelandic, Faroese and Norwegian nynorsk.
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The Old Norse -sk verb is often termed the ‘middle voice’. This is unhelpful because we are dealing here not with a voice in the sense of the active or passive (cf. 3.6.4), but with a verbal inflexion that has a variety of functions. One such is reflexive: the -sk suffix can often be the equivalent of the reflexive pronoun sik (e.g. hann nefndi sik/nefndisk ‘he named himself’). It will be seen, however, that ‘he named himself’ or ‘he called himself’ overlaps semantically with ‘he was named’ ‘he was called’, and it is probably in constructions of this kind that -sk first came to take on a passive function. The -sk suffix can also have reciprocal function (e.g. bítask ‘bite each other’, gefask ‘give each other’). In the case of many verbs, the addition of -sk simply imparts, or may impart, a different meaning from that of the simple form (e.g. gera ‘[to] do’ — gerask ‘[to] become’, minna ‘[to] remind’ — minnask ‘[to] remember’). Some verbs only exist in an -sk guise (e.g. óttask ‘[to] fear’).

For the learner the best procedure is probably to treat -sk verbs as separate words from their non-sk counterparts, until s/he has developed some feel for Old Norse.
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>no Peruvian flags ITT
How can you call yourselves Aryan and Germanic?
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Bonjour
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>>58790613
>Bonjour
Das ist doch nicht Germanisch.
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Rise, thread, rise! Let the jaws of hell ne'er take thee! This is not yet thine tyme! Live for another day!
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>>58786704
(You) fürs kreieren eines neuen Fadens in Zeit.
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>>58787288

>benis
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>>58786822
>Vikings
>Horned helmets
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>>58786958
>Germanic
>Ancient
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>>58789022
Why would you unironically want to be associated with Aryans?
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>>58798323
>>58798346
>>58798412
>3 finn posts
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