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Chaotic good would be America
Neutral good is Germany
>>58729755
>America
>Good
>USA
>Not eternally Chaotic Good
Also what the fuck does Japan or Ireland even do to earn those spots.
>>58729893
>British
>bitter
Must be a day ending in y
>Macedonia
>Not the best country in the world
>>58729694
Japs are not good. There's a reason why half of the world fervently hates them, there's a reason.
where does this meme come from? this lawful/neutral/chaotic divide is so fucking retarded
>>58730331
This desu
Japs act all cute but there's an innate desire to turn every country around them into a bloodbath, they're evil
>>58730297
This is based off the governments of each country not the people. Yanks can be sound lads but your gov is evil as fuck
>>58730339
google Alignment
turkey is chaotic neutral
>>58730416
Ok tell me what makes us evil
>>58729893
Don't you mean
>any country
>good
Neutral is really the best this world has to offer.
>>58729755
>good
Neutral
>>58730904
Unlawful invasion of Irak, Guantanamo, supporting decades of dictatures in South America, plundering ressources across the globe, just off te top of my head, there are plenty more
>>58731150
this
>>58730904
you're just fat and licentious people
>>58731264
You realize your country was also a part of the war in the Middle East right
You realize your country plundered Africa until it was dry and traveled the globe slaughtering and subjugating natives right
You realize your country is also fat as fuck right
>>58731344
>You realize your country plundered Africa until it was dry and traveled the globe slaughtering and subjugating natives right
And yet the American government still does those things now
>>58731344
nah when we do it its bants
>>58731344
>>58731439
this is pretty qt, dad and son arguing :3
lads, face it, there has never been a superpower that wasn't fundamentally evil.
when the day comes that the leading global power is actually fundamentally benevolent (to a realistic extent), humanity will improve immeasurably
>>58729694
is finland real?
>>58729694
no no, this is how it goes:
Lawful good: Sweden
Neutral good: Bhutan
Chaotic good: India / developing world democracies
Lawful neutral: European Union
True neutral: Switzerland
Chaotic neutral: Brazil
Lawful evil: United States
Neutral evil: China
Chaotic evil: Russia
This most accurately gets at the heart of the countries. Unfortunately, the corrupting nature of power means that only smaller countries can be truly "good"
>>58731439
????
The fuck are you even talking about, don't even pretend like the scramble for Africa isn't a massive black mark on your history
But wait you're British so
>we dindu nuffin
>>58731534
pretty decent list actually, best I've seen as of yet.
>>58731534
also, sweden is exceptional so it gets counted twice
>>58731650
Liberia
>>58731748
??? You mean the place that American slaves left for?
Compare that to the majority of the continent, plus India, plus...fuck, all over the world
If there was ever an evil empire it was yours
>>58731534
>America
>lawful
>>58731650
time to trigger tomas
>>58731528
>never been a superpower that wasn't fundamentally evil.
British Empire wasn't all that evil compared to other European empires
>>58730331
>half of the world
Let's not exaggerate, Chinks are about 1/5
>>58731903
it was still fundamentally evil
perhaps evil is a bit too strong of a word, but millions of people died at the hand of the british empire, for the personal gain of a few.
>>58729694
This is extremely shit and superficial.
>>58731879
That place was a quasi-American colony and probably the worst African state now. Ex British African colonies are pretty good if you compare them to African countries under Belgian/French rule
>>58731899
>the eternal anglo trying to jew us out of our achievements
nice try
>>58732014
like ur childhood
>>58732148
lol you do realise you're role-playing as a landmass you were randomly placed on because your life lacks fulfilment or anything else to try and be proud of
>>58729694
>strictly implemented Shariah
>chaotic
???
>>58729694
i dont understand your point very much but saudi seems to be out of place.
if anything israel belongs in that position.
>>58729694
I have a hard time putting China in the evil category though I don't really want to put them into the good either. I think they straddle the line between neutral and evil and are somewhere between true and lawful. It's not really appropriate to make them the poster-boy for neutral evil.
Everything else seems okay and yes America should be Chaotic neutral. Anyone who says good is a blind nationalist.
>>58732524
as much as i hate mohammedism there's not much in shittyria about mass rape, genocide and destroying priceless old antiques and ruins and coming up with inventive and cruel ways to execute people for the lels
>>58732582
Saudi is governed by Sharia law which is fundamentally evil
>>58732582
Israel is not lawful, they have broken pretty much every UN law there is.
I'd say Israel is Neutral Evil
>>58732582
They're both deserving on that spot.
Saudi is evil for pretending to be a friend of the west while they funnel money to terrorist organizations behind our back and Israel for trying to push an agenda of genocide in the middle east and for manipulation of other countries.
>>58732879
Lawful doesn't necessarily reflect that you follow laws but rather is indicative of an orderly society.
Israel and Saudi Arabia are both orderly. They do awful things but the power structure maintains strict order. A country like Syria or Yemen would be chaotic because there is no structure and no order.
>Modern China
>Evil
>Japan
>Good
>Ireland
>Good
>Somalia
>Neutral
>>58732756
China is as neutral evil as you can be by dnd logic. They don't engage in direct evil acts but do to corruption, negligence, one party rule or just apathy they do evil shit that hurts people, best examples being rapid industrialisation causing an environmental catastrophy across the country, millions of chinese lacking their hukou aka living permits do to uncaring communist bureaucracy, the most executions in the world and hell on earth factories with nets on the building walls meant to capture people trying to kill themselves. China is evil.
>>58733291
>Christianity
>good
>Atheism
>evil
>>58731534
terrible list
Lawful good: N/A
Neutral good: Iceland
Chaotic good: USA
Lawful neutral: Israel
True neutral: Switzerland
Chaotic neutral: Brazil
Lawful evil: China
Neutral evil: Russia
Chaotic evil: Mongol Empire
>>58733639
>Mongol empire
Just stop
>>58729755
Nahh.
We're chaotic neutral
>>58733821
it's the only country in history that's ever been chaotic evil
>>58733832
What is chaotic about America?
Where do you put Latvia guys?
>>58734311
in my bed :3
>>58734311
Wherever the literally who square is
>>58733872
Race riots, school shootings, lead in our water pipes...
And we export this fabulous chaos to the Middle East constantly
>>58733585
>Christianity
>Preaches love and peace
*tips*
>>58731150
>Guantanamo
So, torturing and containing highly dangerous Islamic extremist is bad now?
>Supporting decades of dictators in South America
Is it bad for a country to pursue its interest?
Also, you are exaggerating when saying decades and support. The CIA did have funny business in latin America, but the US never directly supported or propped up the Pinochet, castro, or other south american Regimes.
>Plundering resources across the globe
Please give example, and source. Don't tell me you believe the "Iraq war is for oil" maymay.
>>58729755
more lawful evil
>>58735281
thats what we tried to do with korea but we fucked it up, same with vietnam (for all of thst sweet, sweet rubber), and its what we did with iraq. we also used afghanistan to fight russia (forming the traitorous organization al qaeda which immediately proceeded to viciously attack us after using us up and tossing us away like the cheap whore we are). we also used iran to contest russias influence in the mid east (prompting revolution and the formation of the horrific regime of the ayatollah) as well as with israel (which also made the whole region hate us & wastes our money). we also spend way more money than is required on warfare, which solely destroys value rather than creates it, and benefits no one but those corporate masters who really dont care about tossing away millions of lives to increase their profits. finally we literally raise our children to worship soldiers and to believe that legalized murder in exchange for free college is a morally righteous choice and then wonder why we have such high rates of violent crime. face it man the usa is literally evil empire tier
>>58735957
>We are
Proxyfag. Nobody buys it for a sec.
You are an idiot, and have no idea what you are talking about.
Operation Cyclone did not seek to built what today is known as "Al-Qaeda" and it did not fund Al-Qaeda.
The CIA operation sought to fund and arm the mujahadeen fighting the Russkies. The Program succeeded in deterring the soviets and all forms of funding was immediately cut-off in 1989, when the Soviets withdrew.
Israel was created by the UK, and then supported by the US. Israel was first attacked by the coalition of Muslim countries that ended up having their butts destroyed.
From them on the Israelis sought to make a country for themselves and continued to kick the ass of every muslim's state. These countries were in most cases the aggressors, and in very few cases did Israel initiate hostilities.
Our military spending is 3.4% of GDP. Social security, and other welfare programs take over 60% of our budget yearly. Our military budget was also drastically reduced following the collapse of the soviets. Our military is just fine. No cuts need to be made.
>>58729694
Japan is Lawful neutral at best.
>>58735957
Reagan, and other republican administrations reduced greatly the number of taxes that are paid by normal citizens and wealthy ones.
Countries like Canada and European members that have Universal healthcare and Free college tuition also have substantial higher taxes.
You want all those things. Increase taxes. Don't point your cheeto laced fat fingers to the military.
>>58729694
Fascist allies are good.
China that only hurt itself (no idea about their histry other than cultural communist genocide) is evil.
Why is Straya chaotic? They sit on their islands and dindu nuffin.
>>58737083
The libs are spitting shit over their decision to detain Illegals in detention centers not on the continent.
Some guy set himself on fire, protesting and now the aussies are supposed to be the bad guys. The guy was from Iran, which is not currently at war or in a genocidal chimp out. So, I don't get the whole "You better let them in" argument.
Russia is evil because they fuck shit for their own gain
Saudies are chaotic evil because they fund fanaticism and war for teh Allah
China is lawful evil because they are prone to play by the rules and be evil within them
Switzerland is true natural because the memes are true
Poland is chaotic natural because they have no idea what they are doing
Germany is lawful neutral because of rules autism, though it partially for show only
Canada is regular good because they don't know any better
USA is chaotic good because they try to do good for the most part, but will flip out at times
Sweden is lawful good because they follow the 'good' dogma to the word
>>58737277
Why Australia should even participate in the guilt fest, they were a colony, not a colonist for God's sake.
>Hey, lads, you are rich, share with poor.
>If you won't, you're nad and shiet.
>You have no right to say "No" just because you own your land and money.
>>58738328
Because They are "FUCKING WHITE MALES"
>>58731899
>patent a nuclear bomb and never build one
LOL WE MADE IT RIGHT GUYS
>>58735231
There are a lot of bullshit on christianity and a lot of good things on atheism.
In fact the "bad atheism" is actually the communist/neomarxist atheism.
"atheism" just mean you are not part of a theistic cult actually, so more like "irreligious".
and christianity have a lot of good things but actually during a long time in history, it was used by elites for making shit.
>>58731899
>Internet
Not invented by a single person or entity.
Kleinrock was american, and so is MIT.
>Nuclear bombs
The concept of nuclear weapons were known before the manhattan project, but no one had built one.
The US did invent the Nuclear bomb. The first guy who came up with the idea of a time machine didn't invent it.
>Television
I've never heard anyone claiming that the US was the one to invent the TV. Color TV is another deal but not TV in general.
>Firearms
Again, stupid dribble. The Europeans that came to america already had firearms. No one claims that Americans invented firearms.
>Space travel
No one claims that we invented space travel. The US did won the space race and did walk on the moon, but no one argues that Americans reached space first.
>Movie
Never claimed either.
>Airplanes
The Ader Eole was uncontrolled, short flight, and Steam powered. Not the first aircraft.
The Wright brothers flights were controlled, longer flight, and self-powered.
>Cars
Again, never claimed. Ford made the first accessible automobile but not the first car in general.
>Computer
The first DIGITAL computer was the ENIAC. (American made).
The things you mentioned were mechanical computing devices, and are not what someone today would relate to a computer.
>Satellite
No one says the US was the first. The US entered the race because of sputnik. No one ever said we were the first.
>Telephone
Highly convoluted and controversial affair. I won't argue this one. Lots of people claim to have built the first telephone. I wont even get into it.
>>58738412
Fucking white males, I swear.
>>58738801
What was a victory in the space race? It's not something objective, it's just an ideology they teach you in schools. The profits were technologies, that's where you and us got real profits.
>>58738801
NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALLED TRIGGERED
>>58739050
I agree.
But there was indeed a competitive aspect to that sudden investment in space technology. It wasn't just mere faith in technology, but national pride and politics had a play in those decisions.
Thus, there was indeed a competition. The US won by getting to the goal first--The moon.
>>58738801
>The Wright brothers flights were controlled, longer flight, and self-powered.
And catapulted lol, get fucked burger, true flight was achieved by a franco-brazilian.
>>58740174
>Ader's proponents have claimed that the Wrights' early airplanes required a catapult to take off; however, the Wrights did not use a catapult for their first flights in 1903, though they did for many flights in 1904 and later.
Get fucked monkey.
>>58740368
>Requiring launch rails, a wheeled dolly and skids instead of wheels, and headwind to take off
>"""airplane"""
Might as well call a Hang Glider a airplane then. Maybe if the burgershitters ate a little less they could have flown without that shit.
>>58740931
Stay mad.
>>58729694
Get your alignments here!
http://www.seventhsanctum.com/generate.php?Genname=ralign
(first alignment listed is your alignment)
>>58741089
americans getting upset again? it's just so strange? they normally seem so calm, cool, collected - not at all like they're continually getting fisted by grand-pa Cletus' shotgun to the Die Hard soundtrack
>>58741124
>>58739238
>>58741598
Japan should be lawful neutral
>nations have moral alignment
>ethics exist on the international stage
>>58741754
>talks about history
>has none
lol
>>58733872
We behave entirely on emotional whims.
>racially and politically mixed society that doesn't get along
>do good things to feel like the hero
>bully those that are weaker when for reactionary/selfish reasons
>so narcissistic we claim to be #1 at everything that's benevolent or violent
>>58742401
>Posts contrarian idiocy
>Posts maymays
>can't back them up
>Get's called out
>Calls it history
lol
>>58742602
>Posts contrarian idiocy
>Posts maymays
>can't back them up
>Get's called out
>Calls it history
lol
>>58733291
Pretty sure there isn't a lawful good religion. Not advocating fedorism either because of the gommunism.
>>58742602
>has no imagination
>copies true patrician, moi
>thinks people are still listening
>is still fat
kek
>>58729694
stop mocking us REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>58738792
Yeah - nothing inherently good or bad about atheism. It's true neutral.
Christianity, however, is purely lawful good. Just read the bible for everything you need to know.
Satanism is lawful evil. Judaism is lawful neutral.
>Daesh
>a country
>>58739050
This guy's right. USSR definitely won the space race.
That being said, every other point made by >>58738801 is correct, though many Americans do believe we invented the car.
Planes are cooler, anyways.
>>58735281
>is it bad for a country to pursue its interest
That's how evil works anon, the DnD definition of evil is utter selfishness
>>58744928
>DnD
>>58730331
>>58730374
Doesn't Japanese schools teach children about how people who the rest of the world categorize as war criminals as heroes or some shit
>>58738801
UKucks btfo, also the first feature length movie was Australian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Story_of_the_Kelly_Gang
>>58746330
But I dislike America because they create history and teach us America is God.
The old standard.
>>58740174
>>58740368
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alberto_Santos-Dumont
Yeah Wright brothers "flew" first but Dumont invented the fucking airplane
Fuck off you tro and face the facts
>>58752378
>Wright brothers flew first
>flew first
>flew first in a self-propelled, heavier than air, fixed winged, aircraft
Stay mad. You weren't fist.
>>58752412
"Following his pioneering work in airships, Santos-Dumont constructed a heavier-than-air aircraft, the 14-bis. On 23 October 1906 he flew this to make the first powered heavier-than-air flight to be certified by the Aéro Club de France and the Fédération Aéronautique Internationale (FAI)."
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Even I could say I flew first and gether some villegers as proof sorry.
>>58752477
The flight was videotaped in 1904, idiot.
Dumont lived in france when he built the 14-bis. Of fucking course, he would get exposure to the frenchies first.
>>58738801
It's all bait, and you just chugged it.
>>58729694
Unfortunately we're not chaotic enough any more. We're becoming an over regulated nanny state with too many fucking pointless rules and laws.
>>58730331
>>58730374
>>58746330
why are yanks this delusional?
>>58729694
we are not good
>>58739887
Retards. The moon wasn't the end goal. It was the turning point. After we landed on the moon, we continued to expand space exploration as the USSR crumbled. We continue to win the space race by having Mars rovers. We are also the largest contributor to the ISS.
>>58752574
>₩960 has been deposited into your bank account
>>58752587
Kennedy set the Goal on the moon. Surely, efforts and advancements would continue. But the space race itself was done by the time of the moon landing.
>>58752600
what is the w960?
>>58729694
>Japan
>Lawful good
>British """Education"""
>>58743186
>a FUCKING DOT
>>58731899
Why does Westerner care about with country have the most achievements? They are all part of the same civilization. It's like carrying about with country has the best football team.
>>58729694
Are you even aware of Japanese history?
