Why would any country's people, outside of their military, require weapons?
To protect themselves
>>58273009
From what?
For hunting
For sport
For collection
>>58273048
>From what?
From other people.
Because it's my job to carry a gun
>>58272911
To protect yourself from niggers, America-kun
>>58272911
for shooding beoble :DDD
>>58273048
the queen of england
because the government says they have the right to
don't ask
>>58272911
Californians shouldn't be allowed to post on this board tbqh
>>58273048
From invaders.
But the Second Amendement really says that it is for if the government become too strong. And I can't disagree.
I mean, when I see people storming cithyhalls with their hunting rifles during the Ukrainian revolution, how can I be against guns?
When I see Serbian villagers with guns defending themselves against Bosniak savages killing everyone in the village door to door, how can I be against guns?
When I see the American Militias defending themselves against the British army during the revolutionary war, how can I be against guns?
>>58273072
The chances of the crime becoming violent is increased by the fact that both the attacker and the victim have easy access to guns. You could use alternative, and less lethal weapons for protection against a human.
>>58273535
>But the Second Amendement really says that it is for if the government become too strong
Do you have a single fact to back this up? If anything, it gives the government control over those who own the guns.
>>58273658
>it gives the government control over those who own the guns.
u wot
>>58273658
>it gives the government control over those who own the guns.
No it doesn't.
>>58274032
>>58273913
That's the 'well regulated militia' bit.
>having a handgun means I'm safe from being oppressed by the gov with the world's most powerful military
>>58272911
Why do we require freedom of speech?
Why do we require freedom of movement, of assembly, of petition?
We don't *require* these things, we are *entitled* to them, because we are free citizens and the government exists to serve US, not the other way around.
>I work at a news magazine
>journalist decides to deeply investigate guns and gun statistics to prove how bad they are
>now that she is almost done with her article she's perplexed by her findings
>apparently they aren't a very big problem
>is talking to the editor to see how they can frame the article to still make some kind of point against guns
This is happening as I literally write this.
>>58274279
SAY something, then
>>58272911
to rob people
>>58273072
are you still trapped in the bronze age or something?
>>58274279
Cake doesn't kill kids.
>>58274072
No it isn't.
The 'milita' constitutes every male in the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_Acts_of_1792
>>58274411
Sure it does.
Obesity and related diseases kill far more people every year than guns.
We should regulate assault calories.
>>58274108
>just bomb our own people xd it's not like we need them to work and pay taxes so we have en economy to fund the military
Some stupid martial law shit isn't going to work.
>south american shitskin
Big surprise there.
>>58274475
and the well regulated refers to them being regulated.
>>58273048
Niggers
>>58272911
Collecting
Sports
Hunting
Self defense
Exercising your personal freedom
>>58272911
To overthrow governments that become too tyrannical.
Also to kill deer and spiders.
>>58274108
>>58274326
Why? It's not my job and they have the right to publish whatever garbage they want
>>58274562
agreed, public order forces are retarded and unneeded, that's why they don't exist in the US
>canadian
is sucking US' cock you national sport?
>>58274581
No it doesn't.
>>58273614
>The chances of the crime becoming violent is increased by the fact that both the attacker and the victim have easy access to guns.
Source?
>Use other stuff
What else could my grandmother use to successfully defend herself from diverse and vibrant youths?
>>58274581
Nah, it doesn't mean the state.
>>58273614
>less lethal
We aren't cops, we are civilians. We don't arrest people, we shoot them in case of danger.
>>58274108
>You can control a country with artillery/ bombers/ drones
>what are afghanistan, iraq, vietnam
>>58274770
Your rebuttal is shit Texas.
Read the copypasta the Bong posted.
>>58274689
>needing a gun to kill a spider
Australia, is that you?
>>58274915
>>58274967
a collective armed insurrection is a different scenario, and even then there's intel, lack of community sense against an alien force, et al., elements you'd have to consider in that case, for the US
you, as an individual, are hopeless against the conculcation of your rights by the government
I mean the very idea of the "diminishing pie" up there demonstrates it
>>58274764
The worst kind of person.
>>58275390
Afghans, Iraqi people..
They were all able to defend themselves.
With no money or intelligence
>>58275390
>there was never a violent revolution in human history
>if you can fail you should never try
>if your rights could be taken away you should simply give them away beforehand
>it's about an all out war between the civilians and the army, not making the cost of restricting the liberty of the people so high that no one in their right mind would try
wew
>>58275390
LOL
read some history Chile
>>58275611
>>58275583
as I said, the US gov has a lot more intel on their own people, and the US is an advanced, post industrial society where people only know about each other through virtual means: there's no 'community', at least not in the sense of relatively primitive societies as the ones you're putting forward as examples, or societies where 'revolutions' in the past have been successful
now more than ever, police states have you by the balls. We aren't talking about organized insurgency, we're dealing with just a sum of pissed individuals all by themselves, with common rabble
>>58275390
>what is afghanistan
>what is iraq
>>58273395
>response time is 4 minutes
Try 23.
>>58275797
>as I said, the US gov has a lot more intel on their own people, and the US is an advanced, post industrial society where people only know about each other through virtual means: there's no 'community', at least not in the sense of relatively primitive societies as the ones you're putting forward as examples, or societies where 'revolutions' in the past have been successful
[citation needed]
I don't think you understand the American people and their hatred for the government.
>>58275928
it's ironic
to defend their right to own and bear kinder eggs
>>58275928
In Detroit the average response time is an hour. Literally third world tier.
>>58276046
>americans are the only people who own guns
>>58274981
You want to take on a spider in unarmed combat then fine. You will not be missed.
>>58272911
To protect yourself against arabs.
>>58276259
Does a paper towel count as unarmed?
>>58273658
Agressive & weak people need a way to feel better and delude themselves about their actual power.
>>58274653
Let's be real this is the only answer in good faith
It's a fucking retarded redneck answer but this is the only guy saying what all you gun retards want to say
>>58274689
>actually thinking rednecks with ARs are going to overthrow the US government
Tippest toppest kek
>>58272911
>>58276338
My grandmother was shocked about the criminal arabs that are now running wild in our city and asked me what she could do to protect herself, if she ever got attacked. Thanks to our gun laws, I had to tell her that she is pretty much fucked.
>>58274279
Here just show her this
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/guns-and-death/
Also be sure to let her know that defensive gun use is like 0.5% of gun homicides and the vast majority of gun deaths are suicides, which guns greatly increase the risk of
http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/means-matter/means-matter/risk/
Tell her I said she's welcome! Must not be a very good study if it doesn't prove something that has already been proven a million times over :^)
>>58276321
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Ok where is the part about overthrowing a tyrannical government?
>>58276528
>vast majority of gun deaths are suicides, which guns greatly increase the risk of
Yeah sure, all those Koreans and Japanese must be killing themselves with all 3 guns that they have
>>58273614
bring a knife to a gun fight creates a terminal situation
You DEAD
>>58274277
You can have all of these things without guns you dipshit, nations that restrict firearm access are more free than the US, unless your only metric is whether or not you can own a pointy bangy
In which case, you're retarded
>>58276643
dude it's right there
>>58272911
Because guns are cool.
>>58276824
Lol no it's not
>>58272911
For fun
>>58276528
>the vast majority of gun deaths are suicides, which guns greatly increase the risk of
Self harm is not a legitimate reason to restrict freedom in a free state. You have every right in the world to end your life.
>>58276683
>access to guns increases the risk of suicide
Do you not read? It's pretty common sense, if you want to kill yourself and in the spur of the moment you've got a gun, boom, you're dead, no time to think about it, dead right there
Use your fucking brain, retard
Oh and hey, look at all the gun violence they don't have because of all 3 guns they have
>>58276862
a "free state" excludes a tyrannical one
>>58276408
It worked once before... in the founding if the country YOU live in. That was the whole purpose of keeping the 2nd amendment, you uneducated menstrual vomit.
>>58276915
Right so why mitigate suicides in any way we can, because everyone committing suicide is in the right state of mind to do so & this is the same thing as voluntarily euthanasia :^)
Stupid fucking kraut, think before you type, be thankful you don't have as many guns as we do or you'd probably have already been shot at the movies
for sport shooting
for collecting
for hunting
for defence
why do people require fast cars, they are dangerous too.
>>58276964
>rednecks with modern ARs defeated the british
>literally the entire british military
>not the french
Why are you even alive
>>58276923
Maybe they have less violence for a different reason?
>>58276485
+10
As a son of a gunsmith, it does not take much to build a real nice rocket launcher, and those IUDS can make nice warheads in the right application.
>>58277035
Hahahaha in my post I was about to right "oh but wait it's the blacks fault right"
Yeah maybe if we didn't have guns for blacks to shoot each other with they wouldn't be shooting each other with guns
>B-but muh black market!
Yeah, the black market, which everyone has access to. Also you'd literally be paying thousands for a .22. Yeah, all the black people will be getting guns from the black market if this were the case. Once again, try using your brain you dipshit
>>58277145
**write
>>58274108
> I cant defend myself against the military that lost against poor rice farmers with cheep rifles.
>>58276643
>the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed
Right there, becauyse only a tyrannical govt would abuse this RIGHT.
>>58276982
So, you want to take away guns of everyone because some might hurt themselves? You want to treat all of your fellow citizens as if they were mentally ill? Way to go.
Also, germany is a perfect example of gun control not working. There are an estimated 20-40 million illegal firearms in this country. For 80 million people.
Every criminal could get one, but we aren't allowed to defend ourselves.
>>58274279
Yes and my father works for Nintendo.
>>58277021
>still too stupid to just look into the purpose of the 2nd amendment's existence
>hung up on his own mental image of "rednecks with assault rifles"
>why are you even alive
Oh I am laffin.
Well if your countries military fails to defend you from an outside force what else are you left with?
>>58273614
Mate, for example: Around here people will just stab you up
and how do you counter somebody coming at you with a fucking knife?
If people warrant you worthy of killing they will use whatever other means are available to them.
>>58274915
Places that are occupied by foreign militaries and terrorists.
Great
Examples
>>58277145
Maybe they'll just stab each other? Where is your source proving that less legal gun ownership is decreasing homocides?
>>58277203
>The right of the people to own slaves
Only a tyrannical government would abuse this RIGHT
>So, you want to take away guns of everyone because some might hurt themselves? You want to treat all of your fellow citizens as if they were mentally ill? Way to go.
Yes, if it means saving thousands of lives to take away your toys, absolutely
>Also, germany is a perfect example of gun control not working. There are an estimated 20-40 million illegal firearms in this country. For 80 million people.
Every criminal could get one, but we aren't allowed to defend ourselves.
And yet your firearm homicide rate is...? And hey, if it's that easy to get a gun, go get one to defend yourself with
Stop replying to me, you are immeasurably fucking stupid
>>58272911
I'd love for guns to come in flashy colors, like CAT yellow for that construction site swagger.
Or bright orange, i'd call it the emergency powder actuated holepuncher or some shit.
>>58276923
>It's pretty common sense
No it isn't. The fact that the USA has the highest rate of gun ownership in the world by a wide margin and not even in the top 20 suicide rate disrpoves your claim.
>>58277145
Building your own shotgun requires parts from a hardware store worth ~10 bucks. Look up the blackpipe shotgun.
>>58277001
Everyone desperately desires to draw analogies to prove the rationality of something else.
First of all, two wrongs don't make a right.
Second, cars are not guns.
Third, fast cars aren't used by criminals to actively kill other people.
Your analogy is shit.
>>58277331
>>The right of the people to own slaves
That, is not in the constitution, This was actually a legal precedent started by this man
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Johnson_%28colonist%29
a black man
>>58277021
be honest here, if the us gov't orders the military to kill citizens at that scale, there are going to be alot of defections and likely a military coup.
>>58277482
>fast cars aren't used by criminals to actively kill other people.
Neither are registered guns. More people are probably killed by fast cars than registered guns.
>>58277301
Terrorists are called freedom fighters by others. If american militias would start a rebellion they would be labelled terrorists aswell. So these terrorist controlled areas are proof that civilians (terrorists) are in fact capable of defending themselves even aginst the US military.
>>58277482
ey switzerland has guns and barely any related violence
did you lose someone to a shooting? I'm sorry if so but your society is obviously the problem, black white or otherwise
>>58273009
Why would I need to protect myself from people?
There's a police officer every four steps in Monaco.
>>58277331
so we should take away your "toy" car, which is not a "right" but a privilege, no where in the constitution is a "horse" or transportation listed.
1.3 million deaths are caused by road injury, but in your case its probably cuz you fell on your face.
>>58277482
>fast cars aren't used by criminals to actively kill other people
Yes, they are. There was a terrorist attack in austria that involved a follower of the religion of peace hitting pedestrians with his car. This is just one example, there are plenty more.
>>58277552
>switzerland has guns and barely any related violence
good example
>but your society is obviously the problem
true
Another truth is our guns aren't going anywhere, and the anti gun people need to get over it.
>>58277145
>paying thousands for a .22.
>I can pay 3-6k for an automatic weapon in the UK
idk I don't think you know how the black market works, especially for a continent that has such a large supply of weaponry you're going to be looking at much, much, much less for a .22
>>58277410
>Look up the blackpipe shotgun.
No thanks, this isn't a proxy and I don't want to be banned.
>>58277521
Nope. It would only focus on the few people who actually rise up and resist.
>>58277546
Lmao u wut? The 2009 Fort Hood shooter used a registered gun.
And the number killed isn't the question that matters, because a lot are killed by both.
It's if new regulations would help, or hurt.
>>58277552
Switzerland also has extensive regulations and restrictions on guns. It's a meme. America is freer with guns than Switzerland.
Japan has 200 legal civilians guns. 200!
And they have one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world. Lower than Switzerland.
It's never so simple.
>>58277734
also have this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihabara_massacre
Also think elliot, fucker could have probably ran more people over than he shot
>>58277808
>japan
LOL! Read above, again, its not the guns, its your fucking people
>>58277788
Just look it up on youtube, it's completely legal in the US (at least in some states).
>>58277145
Yeah, blacks would just use knives, or cars, or rope, or lighter fluid, or wrenches, or clubs, or spears.
>>58277715
Cars aren't designed to maim/kill though.
The tool argument for guns is limited because they are weapons by design.
I'm not taking a stand one way or another btw, guns seem fun, but people are absolute retards.
>>58277808
So what? Honduras has extremely strict gun laws and one of the highest murder rates in the world. Brazil and mexico have very strict gun laws aswell.
>>58274869
>not knowing how to perform a citizen's arrest
>>58277715
I don't think anon has ever been nigger bowling
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw2y3FKgsTU
To keep ypurself alive if your life is threatened. If you wannt suck dicks and give up your life easily thats fine, be the weak human not fit for survival. But unlike you the rest of us would like to keep existing till we die of (hopefully) natural causes. Dont drag us down into your darwinistic living methods faggot.
>>58276732
Then move to one of those countries if you're so repulsed by civilian gun ownership. I don't even own a gun, but it's a foundational right of the nation. It's in the Bill of Rights, for christ's sake.
>>58277569
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
Why do these two charts not correlate?
America 3.8/100,000
Uk 1/100,000
2014
>>58277289
>how do you counter somebody coming at you with a fucking knife?
you can literally just fucking run
>>58277919
Sometimes maiming or killing people is a good thing. Guess why cops carry them? It's not to pat someone on the back with.
Cars are a tool that can be used to drive or murder with, guns are a tool that can be used to defend yourself or murder with.
>>58277715
Fast car in this situation = race car
Gun's designed purpose is to main/kill something. Not cars.
>>58277410
>blackpipe shotgun
>>58278089
wot if you're 200 kgs lol
>>58278089
My grandmother is not as fast as an arab youth though. What is she gonna do?
>>58277835
When you hit a person they will usually fly up into your windshield and spray glass all over your face.
You can kill a lot more with a rifle than with a fast car.
I agree that it is our people. I'm simply pointing out that Japan and Switzerland are on two sides of the extreme, yet both are extremely safe.
>>58277940
>So what?
Umm the country with the most restrictive gun laws in the world is also the safest in the world.
Your examples do not change that fact.
The issue is the people and society. Not the amount of guns or regulations on them.
>>58278105
You're off the ball, mate i didn't say it was bad, I said guns were conceived for this very purpose, making them tools, sure but not comparable to cars or hammers etc.
Not only are cars not made with the intent to maim, they are designed to hurt as little as possible.
I'm not trying to disagree with you on guns, it's just that this argument, which is very popular among online gun advocates, doesn't hold any water and undermines your chances at convincing anyone.
>>58278130
>>58277569
Oh look it's this misinformation again. Funny how only felonies are included in the US crime stats, yet all crime in the UK is included.
>>58278260
Yeah and cops are the enforcers of the law. Not the civilians.
So Swedeanon's analogy about
"Fast cars = Guns" so why not ban fast cars, was absolutely retarded.
>>58278163
well you can't outrun heart attacks diabeetus either, so fat people are just doomed i guess
>>58272911
Absolutely no need at all. If I can have weapons, the thugs will also have one - and they are more willing to use it than me.
Also, look at Marseilles for the consequences of weaponised populations - vendettas and so on.
>>58278292
Don't forget that gun laws are just an aspect of the problem. If a country is poor, there is going to be a lot of crime, gun laws or not.
>>58278089
You gonna ask my wife with a short skirt and high heels to outrun a nig? seriously?
Shoot that fuckr dead, wrong choice that day for the nig.
>>58277332
Did some one watch the Wire?
>>58278481
Glad to know american hookers still pack Derringers.
I like to hunt and shoot skeet/targets to get better at it. That's one of the rare legitimate reasons to own them tbqh.
>>58278613
>merrikan
>derringers
probably a deagle brand deagle shoved up some hole or another
>>58278377
>cops are the enforcers of the law. Not the civilians
Civilians are the first line of defense always. This is America. A civilian can arrest an individual, how stupid are you? You must be from Chicago.
>>58278580
Holly shit, I didn't realise that's where I got this piece of vocabulary.
This cultural hegemony thing is why English is the easiest language on the planet desu.
>>58278339
He said "fast car" implying race cars.
Any car can kill a person, but one that goes 300mph is more likely to.
Problem is that race cars aren't designed to main/kill something. So his analogy was shit. And so is your's.
>>58278613
Thats why bicthes got two holes, one for the money, one for the piece.
>>58278377
I don't want to enforce any laws, I want to exercise the most basic human right there is. Self defense.
>>58278451
>the thugs will also have one
yeah you dumb french idiot, its like the thugs care about gun permits or whatever, did the Paris terrorists have a gun permit to wield those AK's they massacred you frenchfrogs in bataclan with? a big NO, instead, we take the situation where a law abiding citizen had a weapon in the bataclan hall, the death toll would be much lower if he knew to shoot somebit, but he would be french anyway and surrender his weapon to the terrorists before he could do shit so.. no, you frenchfrogs are in a looose loose situation no matter what.
>>58273445
Hey man, not all of us are anti-gun hippie idiots.
>>58278693
Idk i just wanted to be rude and call anon's wife a western style frontier prostitute.
>>58278481
Statistically self-defense situations involving a gun in the defender's hands are more likely to end with the defender injured/dead.
A nig seeing a gun will run more often, but if he doesn't he'll go for the kill a lot more often.
>>58278703
ohhh, derp derp derp derp
guns maim kill, my sensitive sensitivity is sensitized. Some one get him a pacifier to calm him down.
>>58278676
I like to do heroin as well cuz it's useful in certain health situations.
Does that mean it should be legal?
Sometimes freedom must be restricted for the greater good. That's how government works.
>>58278693
this is now a /k board
>>58278829
>Statistically
Nothing to back it up except the excrement from your typing.
>>58278694
Yeah try arresting me and I'll either sue you for all you're worth or shoot you dead.
>>58278791
I exercise it without a gun every day in East DC.
>>58278945
Heroin should be legal though.
>>58278945
>Does that mean it should be legal?
Yeah, it should.
>>58278945
>That's how government works
Says you, ask the swiss and the dutch how they dealt with it. The gov is not your mother and father.
>>58278797
Terrorists are not ordinary thugs.
>"More guns are the solution"
Look at America.
>>58279089
Congratz, but my grandmother would not be able to.
>>58278879
Dude you're stupid. I'm not even anti guns and I recon the analogy makes no sense.
People spout it online every time the argument comes up, and you systematically sound like fools.
You guys are super predictable too. Just brush up on your argumentation if you want to make a point for gun rights. Otherwise you're just going to sound like a carricature and only reinforce the stereotype of a gun owner in every one else's mind.
>>58279089
we will see about that, FL concealed , if you like to pursue illegal endeavors, you should not do it in the eyes of the citizens.
>>58279074
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/01/defensive-gun-ownership-myth-114262_full.html#.VxpjxFL3bCQ
I'm still pro-gun though.
![AK-103_Assault_Rifle[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/FYXLP3O.jpg "AK-103_Assault_Rifle[1].jpg")
>>58278976
Fine post your weapon fu lads
Pic related, I'm a simple man
becuase it's hella fun my boys
>>58278945
Legalizing it reduced crime rates and usage of it in Portugal. Perhaps stimulating a cross-continent black market by waging an endless aimless war on drugs isn't the best method.
>>58278945
I guess I use knives sometimes to cut my food but it can kill people so we should ban them all
I guess I use cars to get around sometimes but people can run over people over so we should ban them all
I guess I use buildings quite frequently desu but people can jump off them so we should ban them all
>>58279207
>Terrorists are not ordinary thugs.
still , ordinary thugs will get a gun easily if they need to, they dont care about gun permits, its you the law abiding citizens who get fked over cuz the moment someone pulls a 9 on you you will have nothing to counter with.its when you will wish to have had a gun.
>>58279250
>tfw nogunz
It takes a fucking year to get a .22 over here. But one day...
>>58278945
No man you don't understand. I need shitty civilian weapons so that when the Government tries something I can shoot their asses.
Everyone knows stealth bombers and drones are very susceptible to shitty civilian weapons.
>>58279120
Great thing you aren't in power.
>>58279144
Nice image macro. I'm sure it's 100% accurate.
>>58279151
How did they deal with Heroin? It's illegal there still.
>>58279217
Yes she would be able to.
Just less so.
>>58279237
Try me and you'd die. Citizen's arrests are a meme and end in deaths far more often. They are not allowed in most first world states.
>>58279282
Based argentina bringing the logic
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xj0V4M5sPN0
>you will never hangout with cokefag
;______;
>>58279346
I'm one test away from a hunting license and finally being able to own gunz. Granted only hunting rifles but still
>>58279329
It's the amount of good/bad that matters you stupid fuck.
>>58279349
Yes we will defeat the tanks with our semi-autos.
This argument is not an argument for pro or anti-guns. It's irrelevant.
>>58279313
Oh and you are sure that'll work in a far different country like America?
>>58272911
For fun.
Do you also ask why people who don't work in aviation are allowed to buy airplanes?
>>58279089
So the staunch anti gunner finally finds a need for a gun, hahahaha, tooo funny.
Hope you got a good draw, bunch of Suitland faggots. Bring your rosary beads, your momma gonna pray over them.
>>58279384
>Yes she would be able to.
No, she wouldn't. She is almost half my size and over 70. What is she supposed to do if a violent criminal wants to harm her?
>>58279479
Why does everyone use such shit analogies to defend their arguments?
This one doesn't make sense.
>>58279460
Guns can prove as worthy self defense weapons in various matters, they can be used for entertainment - I'm sure 99% proguns in the US go down the shooting range for recreational purposes.
You can say "but muh guns kill people"
People kill people, people will find ways to kill people even if the most convenient option isn't there. Perhaps if society fixes up we won't have this problem where people are either getting stabbed, shot up or blown up for petty or just absolutely shite reasons if there is any way to justify it.
I'm also sure that the majority of weapons obtained to then conduct illegal activities were obtained by illegal means.
>>58279588
I wouldn't if you didn't have a gun.
Just because there are uses for a gun doesn't mean you cannot be anti-gun or own one.
>>58272911
Hunting
>>58279612
Yes she would be able to. Just less so.
>>58279655
Answer my question please: Do you also ask why people who don't work in aviation are allowed to buy airplanes?
>>58279384
>Nice image macro. I'm sure it's 100% accurate.
Ok, here you go: https://www.drugpolicy.org/sites/default/files/DPA_Fact_Sheet_Portugal_Decriminalization_Feb2015.pdf
>Portugal enacted one of the most extensive drug law reforms in the world when it decriminalized low-level possession and use of all illicit drugs nearly a decade and a half ago. Results of the Portuguese experience demonstrate that drug decriminalization – alongside a serious investment in treatment and harm reduction services – can significantly improve public safety and health.
How are the goal posts going to be moved, I wonder.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xibpFzUREGI
Any of you lads excited for this?
>>58279617
>3
What?
Serbs claim they shot down three Knighthawks now?
>>58279776
Ok, smartass. She could try, achieve nothing and let herself get stabbed. Nice definition of self defense.
Without a gun she wouldn't have any realistic chances of not getting harmed.
>>58279854
Nah the only mod I'm looking forward to currently is Ray of Hope.
http://www.moddb.com/mods/ray-of-hope-co-op-online
>>58272911
>911
nice colt get
>>58279896
I only know of a supposed second one that got damaged. Did you lose any before hand? Its propaganda, maybe they're making fun of that
>>58279250
Sold all my weapons, just for this and my Glock .45, SOCOM 458 semiauto, very nice for hunting hogs and cans.
>>58279923
Might be doa if escape from tarkov is succesful, seems cool regardles tbqh
>>58280070
jelly
>>58279384
Here ya go, allowed in all the states, some require the offense to be a felony. Dont cry to hard
http://www.solutions-institute.org/tools/citizens-arrest-laws-by-state/
>>58272911
Why can't people have guns outside of need?
You are so cucked by the state you think these kind of restrictions (be it gun, drugs, kinder chocolate or whatever) are normal and natural.
State should have no right to determine what I can have and what I can't, as long as I am not abusing other people.
>>58280158
>Might be doa if escape from tarkov is succesful
I don't think so. Considering the lengths that the team have gone through to get it working, currently they just have the maps and some assets to finish and then release some time later this year. They had to modify the engine to get multiplayer working properly, I doubt they would bail after making this much progress.
>>58279231
The right to bear arms in the USA is in the "Bill of Rights" portion of the US constitution and is a law that has been upheld numerous times and assaulted frequently , and has been determined by the US Supreme Court to mean that US citizens have the right to own firearms. Period. Not just for defense or any other reason, but PERIOD.
>>58280326
Well hope it turns out good lad, always wanted decent co-op in a stalker game
>all these cool mods coming out for CoP
>SoC is my favourite
;______;
>>58279245
here ya go, not really a big fan of politico
try this
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/06/25/study-using-guns-for-defense-leads-to-fewer-injuries
no government lasts forever, no period of dull safety, bread and circuses last forever
it doesn't seem like it'll end but everyone in the roman and british empires also thought that they would last forever
you can see in the middle east and eastern europe that violent armed movements happen all the time between groups of power, there's absolutely no guarantee that it won't happen in the west
>>58280831
Non Hostility is a sign of respect, when humans do not respect each other, then we get violence. Texas has a new gun law allowing open carry. It seems a lot of people got very respectful of each other and talk stuff out more rather than getting hostile when they know that the person they are getting hostile with will shoot them dead.
>>58278698
I liked that scene too. Snoop best girl
Unless I got your comment wrong and you never watched the show
>>58280831
All empires eventually fall.
>there's absolutely no guarantee that it won't happen in the west
You can't possibly group up all instability in the middle-east with what's happening/happened with Eastern Europe under some common movement. The problems are different depending on which war-torn shit hole you look at, but the reason it's not happening in the west is due to stability, economic power, and education.
>>58279896
>Knighthawks
>>58281055
I think Syria should have it's current leader, at the least for the moment. Russia could also be useful for aiding in placing and maintaining stability and preventing a Libya-tier disaster.
Kurds are ite but if they have their own official state it won't be long until the turks try and smite them.
All at the bottom is about right, although I'm unsure about Israel.
Iraq and Iran; Hezbollah I'm not sure
along with the rest at the top I have no idea whom they are
>>58281174
yeah, see 9/11, London Subway Bombing, madrid Train bombing, French attacks, Belgian Airport attacks, coming soon to a theatre near you.
Anyone in here arguing with an anti-gun poster is wasting their time. You cannot reason someone out of an opinion they didn't reason themselves into in the first place. Their arguments consistently boil down to: "Convince me that your wrongly held beliefs are accurate." You can fill the thread with statistics, facts, and laws and this will not sway someone who has an opinion based on feelings and smug superiority.
The best thing to do is not engage, just let them be.
>>58272911
*BOOM*
*BOOM*
*CRASH*
That's all it takes for a burglar to break into your house with the intent to rob and kill you. What will you do?
>>58276371
Rural areas are where the guns accumulate and they have very very little numbers of nonwhites in those areas.
>>58281601
It is not necessarily the theft that is the issue, but rather the fact of the safety of the inhabitants. I told my wife let them take the TV and the stereo and computer, but when they step into the bedroom and you identify them as an intruder and you see the whites of their eyes, give them both barrels.
mmuuuuuuh gunnns mafuggah
>>58279803
So where's your proof this will work in vastly different countries?
I did not move the goalposts. I simply shitposted you back because you posted an infographic
>>58281458
>This is the same as a civil war crossed with a humanitarian crisis
Yeah, reread the guy's post who I was responding to. He implied "violent armed movements", eg a Syria-type situation, or Yugo genocide-type situation would happen in the west. I explained why it wouldn't.
>>58280232
People abuse them. What now?
>>58282109
>letting burglars take your shit
Cuck
>>58281554
I've posted six sources that show why i am pro-gun restrictions so far ITT.
>>58282532
Better than risking getting shot.
I'd also prefer not having to kill someone in my life. That's worth a few thousand bucks to me.
>>58282447
>shitposted back
Except the infographic was backed up with clear, resounding evidence. You currently bear the burden of proof to disprove that legalizing drugs would not work in the US, considering it has already worked and worked well in a developed country. If Portugal did not do this, the burden of proof would lie with me as in that scenario we would not have an example of the policy working.
>>58282558
What state are you from? Tell the truth.
>>58282609
>not wanting to kill degenerate crimanals
So you want to send them to jail (with luck) and pay taxes for their upkeep?
I mean, I don't even own guns and probably never will since Finland is shit in that sense, but fuck, it's easy to see that gun control is bad.
>>58272911
to kill liberals and leftist
>>58282505
Then people abusing them should be punished according to the law, simple as that. Just because some people use them as tools to commit crimes does not mean state has the right to ban them (whatever they are). It is a matter of principle.
>>58282532
Getting involved in a life or death situation over a TV is not cuck, you never had to protect your senpai, I have.
>>58283320
This. You can't just blanket punish everyone because a tiny minority misused it (whatever "it" is).
>>58282505
A problem lies with the media with regards to events like mass shootings. Mass media provides a podium for whoever wants to commit an act like a suicide bombing, or mass shooting. You need to stop giving these deranged fuckers a spotlight, report the facts, don't turn people into martyrs because all you will do is inspire similar acts.
>>58282676
He said he was from East DC, probably Suitland, I know the area, Andrews AFB
I have guns because I find them interesting and they're fun as hell to shoot.
Self defense is just a backup reason.
>>58283963
I just want to go target shooting, maybe do some gun challenges and competitions. I wish for a reform on gun laws here but it will never happen due to the near-universal attitude of "OMG GUNS ARE SCARY WE DON'T NEED THEM" that's prevalent here.
