When you're on your deathbed, do you want to tell your grandkids that you spent your youth replying to shitposters on an anonymous igloo blueprint committee?
OR DO YOU WANT TO TELL THEM YOU CLIMBED MOUNT EVEREST TO STAND ON THE ROOF OF THE FUCKING WORLD?
>>58207571
or do you want to tell them you became a ladyboy and let americans stick it in your arsehole?
eh... i climbed the rockies with a snowboard strapped to my back. That's enough for me
>>58207571
>grandkids
>>58207571
>do you want to tell your grandkids
Hahaha, what grandkids? I'm the only son and I'm never going to breed, suck it ladyboy.
>>58208222
This. Having kids is one of the fastest ways to ruin your life.
>grandkids
>kids
>any girl fucking me
>ever
>>58207571
Everest is an easy climb tho.
I don't want my grandkids to think that I'm a pussy.
>>58208236
Some people are capable of having kids, but people like me are not. I better serve myself and the world staying single and contributing with my work fully.
It's not a waste of time if you enjoy it.
>>58208236
>good goy your parents ruined their lives by having you
>>58207571
>grandkids
>implying I'll ever have kids
>>58208369
They did.
>>58208369
They could have retired in luxury by now if they stayed childless.
>>58208236
>>58208391
There's been a lot of homosexuals who advocate sterility on the internet lately. They're all like
>Reproducing is so 2016
>have sex with men instead
>>58208472
So if you don't want to waste all your money and lose the best years of your life, then you must be gay? You're fucking retarded, anon.
>>58208472
I'm not advocating sterility.
I'm just saying that my parents would have lived happier and more fulfilling lives without me.
>>58208490
If one of your ancestors 2,000 years ago thought like you, that line would have ended right then and you wouldn't exist to torture people in the present with your stupidity. You're obviously a defective retard so the line ending with you isn't a bad thing. Carry on.
>>58208588
Why is it that people in favor of reproduction never have a single logical argument in favor of it? Could it be that you've just accepted what society told you without ever thinking about it for yourself?
protip: Extinction is not important, I'd be dead before it ever happened.
>>58208588
I think that's a weak analogy considering the drastic increase in population over the past 2,000 years.
>>58208627
>people in favor of reproduction
Hahahaha this is called normal people or just people. You're just a typical impotent millennial. Carry on retard.
>>58208188
>>58208222
>>58208236
>>58208259
>>58208277
>>58208371
>>58208670
>ALL THESE DEAD ENDS
WHITE RACE IS OVER
>>58208692
Still waiting on those hot logical arguments in favor of your position.
>>58208627
self-hating piece of SHIT
do you understand that having kids is the ONLY way to pass on your heritage to the next generation? It's literally your ROLE in life, to make successful kids.
>>58208698
People with higher socioeconomic standing tend to not have high rates of reproduction.
>>58208747
Great statistic
WHITE RACE IS OVER
>>58208736
>self-hating
Nope, I don't want kids because I care about myself and I want to enjoy my one and only life in this world.
>ONLY way to pass on your heritage to the next generation
Why should I care? I'll be dead and then nothing will matter to me.
>your ROLE in life
According to what? Nature isn't a conscious entity with a purpose, my role is whatever I want it to be.
>>58208736
>heritage
99.99% people are basic as fuck. Nobody will lose on if you dont have kids
>>58208776
>I don't want kids because I care about myself and I want to enjoy my one and only life in this world.
>Why should I care? I'll be dead and then nothing will matter to me.
>According to what? Nature isn't a conscious entity with a purpose, my role is whatever I want it to be.
This post made me CRY with how self-centered and selfish it is, I hope you grow out of your "rebel" phase before it's too late to give back to the society that gave you everything you know. You are a literal WASTE
>>58208812
If nobody in your ethnicity has kids, your ethnicity dies out. The thousands of years that went into making the culture that you grew up in disappears, and you take more out than what you put in to the system. You can't possibly be fulfilled living a life like that.
>>58208826
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>58208856
FUCKING MILLENIALS
>>58208736
Not everyone can or has to reproduce.
I don't believe that not having kids makes life any less satisfying.
As for it being one's role in life, well, that's debatable.
I doubt we'll solve the meaning of life in 4chan thread.
>>58208841
It doesn't matter what happens after you die. You're gone, you can't tell the difference.
>>58208826
>This post made me CRY with how self-centered and selfish it is
You can still live a selfless and altruistic life without having children.
>>58208841
I'm mixed race so I'm doing you all a favour by not breeding. My father broke his European bloodline so it ends with me.
You're welcome
>>58208869
If you can, it is your RESPONSIBILITY to reproduce, among other things. Society needs a new generation to survive.
>>58208879
It matters to OTHER people idiot, and knowing you lived your life helping the rest of your ethnicity makes your life more fulfilled while you're living it.
>>58208893
Read the post and think that has just to do with children, it's literally
>IF IM NOT RECIEVING STUFF WHY WOULD I CARE ?:-DDDDd
>>58208896
More than racial bloodlines, you can still be a part of a society. If you can raise proper kids, and strive towards it, you can make a positive impact. RACE CANT HOLD YOU BACK FRIEND
>>58208893
>Why should I care? I'll be dead and then nothing will matter to me.
>my role is whatever I want it to be.
doesn't seem very altruistic....
>>58207571
tbqh I like guys, so the probability of me procreating with a woman is less than 0.001%.
My sis had two kids though Though I'm fairly sure they or their kids will end up being queer too, it pretty much runs in the family, a couple of my cousins are gay too.
>>58208948
There is no reason whatsoever to care about society after you're gone. Future people can deal with that shit because you can't feel fulfilled after you're dead. I'll be plenty fulfilled, because I'll be dedicating my entire life to making sure that I feel as fulfilled and happy as possible.
Meanwhile, chumps like you will be wasting away your youth changing diapers and listening to shrieking children. By the time they're grown up and you're free from your self-inflicted prison, you'll be poor and old.
>>58209015
>I can feel fulfilled being a complete drain, a social and biological deadend. Enjoy actually playing your part to keep society sustainable, loser!
>>58208948
Maybe so, but I'm pretty autistic and couldn't be a proper parent to any kid. I think it's best I devote my life to my work and I could better serve society that way perhaps?
>>58209055
Working is good, definitely.
>>58209043
Have fun wasting your youth to support others in a way which will never benefit you personally.
>>58209072
Why the FRICK would I care how it benefits me personallly?
>>58209089
Because you're throwing the best years of your life and on average $300,000 per kid on that shit. Only an idiot would do that.
>>58208948
>If you can, it is your RESPONSIBILITY to reproduce, among other things. Society needs a new generation to survive.
Reproduction isn't a problem in this day and age.
Some areas of the world are affected by underpopulation, but these problems pale in comparison to the problems that come with overpopulation.
>mfw my parents try to argue with me that having a kid doesn't ruin your life
>mfw they try to tell me it's "fulfilling" or some shit
>mfw my mom gets upset and argues for hours that I should "give" her a grandkid
>mfw seeing that sad look in her eye when she sees a baby after that
Fucking idiots, they're salty that they wasted their youth and they want me to do the same so they won't have to see what they missed. Crab bucket mentality tbqh.
>>58209112
Best years of my life? $300,000 is nothing, compared to the life long knowledge of knowing you raised a new member of society. Would spending it on a nicer car, or vacations actually make you feel more "happy"?
>>58209120
Reproduction rates are WAY below sustainable amounts for many ethnicities, reproduction is a HUGE problem in the west and in Japan. Culture that built the majority of people on this board is actually going to disappear if the situation doesn't get better.
>>58209172
>Would spending it on a nicer car, or vacations actually make you feel more "happy"?
Yes.
>>58209190
You're a fucking retard and probably a broke 20yo college kid if you think so
Lol fuck off I'm no having kids. Not because of selfishness or whatever buzzword you want to use, simply because I can't attract the opposite sex and am a khv at 23, and I'd reckon most people here are similar
>>58209172
Unless your kid is next Tesla it might aswell not exist and nothing would change
>>58209204
I'll be retiring at 40 in a comfy cottage while you're still busting your ass to pay for your "contribution to society". The only retard here is you.
>>58209172
Oh noes, we're going to lose 20% every century, whatever shall we do.
If only reproductive rates weren't set in stone, or the artificial womb wasn't about to hit the market.
Surely this means we must import low-IQ filth until our race disappear. Speaking of which, why is Japan so racist to not open its borders- uh i mean japanese aren't racist they're a repressed minority-uh wait what's the dogma on that i have a hard time doublethinking my doublethinking.
>>58209234
It's the SUM of people that make up society, not the super successful people who are exceptions. Culture is passed down by people who are NOT famous, but by the most basic unit of society, the family.
>>58209207
Do not worry, it's EASY to find a wife, no matter how you look. I reccomend hanging out at churches, plenty of virgins looking for a life partner.
>>58209243
stupid fucking neet, if everyone lived like you we'd all be starving and living in mud huts waiting for the BENEFITS to arrive. You would not be able to EAT if it wasn't for work of other people, it's your social responsibility to allow others to live successfully as well, and that can only happen with a working and reproducing population. This place is going to be 3rd world before you even die because of people like you.
>>58209257
If only retards reproduce then everyones going to be retarded soon right? Just look at this thread, reproduction rates are probably going to get MUCH LOWER than even NOW because of porn and anime and individualism. WHITE RACE deserves to die
i spent my youth chasing women, playing football and going out
no woman want kids from me so whatever
>>58209338
>BENEFITS
I have a job, dipshit. I'll be paying for my comfort out of my own pocket.
>>58209374
No, you're paying for it out of the pocket of SOCIETY because youre a fucking DRAIN, who only cares making enough money to live a materialistic and pointless life
>>58209389
I don't owe society anything, and neither do you. You're just a big enough cuck to voluntarily ruin yourself for an abstract idea.
>>58209428
do you drive on the road?
>>58209428
You have been GIVEN LIFE, GIVEN OPPORTUNITY, GIVEN EDUCATION, GIVEN FREEDOM, and you DONT OWE ANYTHING BACK????? UAHAAUAHAHAUAHUAHA stupid individualist, what a joke if you actually think that. trades work where i get a bunch of free stuff :DD and dont have to give anything back :dDDDDd
>>58209455
I didn't ask for any of it. There's a reason it's not legal to send unsolicited products to people's houses and then demand that they pay you for them.
>>58209389
Who are you to decide what is pointless and what is not you animal.
Having kids is easiest most primitive thing in this world sub 70 IQ people are capable of it. Being successful and rich actually requires being skilled
>>58209338
>Do not worry, it's EASY to find a wife, no matter how you look. I reccomend hanging out at churches, plenty of virgins looking for a life partner.
You seem to be a little to optimistic. That's not how it works nowadays, sure if I were a good looking bloke I'd definitely .
go for the pure faithful type but I'm not, and most women today aren't faithful majority are quite degenerate so I'll just steer clear.
And not to sound pessimistic but marriages and relationships today always end horribly, so if I did get a gf I'm most likely to be cucked. Better to just stay out completely
>>58209487
>actually requires being skilled
non nation logic, sure it is skilled to be born with a silver spoon in your mouth
>>58209484
yes because you can certainly ask to be born
IF you are actually happy just by buying yourself EPIC stuff, you are reaping the benefits. If you enjoy the life that's been given to you, it is your responsibility to give life to someone else. And LeLodlk you have food and houses because other people made them, you have a JOB because someone else is employing you.
>>58209487
Have you ever THOUGHT about what society actually is? do you understand that culture must evolve to remain sustainable (the actions that we define as moral result in a healthy next generation) or it will DIE OUT. It's a unspoken contract that for YOU to live in safety and wealth, OTHERS have to do work to help you, and for OTHERS to live in safety and wealth, YOU have to put in your own. If you think it's okay to decide lol my lief fuck other people... then your morals would end in your own poverty
>>58209338
I may be retarded, but the only reason i'm not marrying/having kids is the horror of female statistics.
I'm not interested in playing russian roulette with my wealth and future.
As soon as i can get my hands of an artificial womb though, i'll raise at the very least four boys.
And since it's at least a decade away, i'll probably afford to raise a dozens of boys by then.
Keep your eyes on the prize m80
Technological civilisation isn't going away anytime soon, and your desire to go back to patriarchy is doomed to fail since women have vote majority and will never vote against their self-interest ( and no, they won't vote for their enslavement and being reducing to cattle, which is what it would take at this point ).
The only way to fight against the ills of birth control and welfare is the artificial womb.
Anything else is just inviting a dysgenic disaster longterm.
Artificial womb can be scaled, and a man can reproduce as much as his wealth permit him.
Women and brainless mansluts are a lot more limited.
The golden age is coming.
The age without women, and where your intelligence, your ability to secure ressources, is directly responsible for your reproduction ( contrary to the current "marry and hope she doesn't divorce/cheat then divorce you ).
The paradigm shift to end all paradigm shift ( until the next :DDDDDD ).
>>58209598
this doesn't sound too bad 2bh
>>58209581
>you can certainly ask to be born
No, I didn't exist before I was born so I couldn't ask for anything.
>it is your responsibility to give life to someone else
No it isn't.
>And LeLodlk you have food and houses because other people made them,
Because I paid them and thus gave them everything I owed them.
>you have a JOB because someone else is employing you.
Because I'm producing value for them and thus giving them everything I owe them.
>>58209581
I put in my own. I make more money than 99% of people in my country.
>>58209628
>everything I owed them
realize if they didnt make the food you would not be able to eat
and like my other post, your individualism would lead to your own poverty because it's not sustainable. Or before that there would be no wealth because you would all die out from avoiding producing offspring, the world will only have people who DO reproduce, whether they are born into economic opportunity like you had or not
>>58209668
It's great that you make so much money, but do you make more kids than 99% of your country?
>>58209598
No this feminine dominated society will change once the elites and leftists change, globalists elites won't be going away for a while but leftists days are numbered in the future when demographics change, which is happening now.
>>58209701
I don't care about what would have happened if everyone on Earth had done something different before I was born, and I don't care if what I'm doing would hypothetically be sustainable if everyone on Earth starting doing it. Things will last long enough for me to have my comfy life, that literally the only thing that matters as far as I'm concerned. A meteor could obliterate the Earth the second after I'm dead and it wouldn't matter to me.
I've been to:
>Japan
>Canada
>Qatar
>USA
>France
>Ireland
>UK
>Switzerland
>Spain
>Netherlands
>Belgium
>Austria
>Italy
>Czech
>Serbia
>Israel
>Poland
>Hungary
>Portugal
My grandkids can suck my dick
What age is the best age to have children?
>>58208736
Factual not true.
One can also spread his or her memetic heritage, be it in the form of number of ideas spread, scientific accomplishments, general influence one has had on the lives of other.
Only going for genetic heritage is actually a rather silly thing to do, in an age where the phenotype is incredibly distanced from the genotype through the epigenetic influences of human culture and society.
In the end, with genetic heritage, you just pass on half of your genes. Why is that more important than passing on your possible groundbreaking ideas (with higher fidelity)?
Genetic inheritance is just so basic. Any fucking animal can stick it's dick inside a cunt and have a fully automatic reaction that produces a child (raising it successfully, of course, is another question). Writing a book, that influences thousands of minds around the globe, would seem to be a more logical step if one is looking to extend their heritage in the current zeitgeist.
>>58209750
>to have my comfy life
comfy life as in the fruits that hundreds of years of culture has produced to live your cozy cottage life? I'm sure 50 years of living alone in a cottage won't be so cozy though. For me, doing something fun was ALWAYS more enjoyable after an exam that I studied for weeks for, or playing in orchestra competitions after hundreds of hours of practice, rather than just "showing up". I think what makes something "comfy" or "enjoyable" or "makes you feel happy" is also a result of what you put INTO it, which is why life would be much more happy once you put as much as you can into it, which would include working for as long as your body can but also be from raising kids to sustain the future generation. Everything you put in as hard work at the time, comes out as even more happiness in the end.
>>58209823
>factually not true
>implying scientific method can work with culturally importance
you aren't just passing down your genes, you are RAISING the children as well. You, as a parent, have the single hugest influence on how the child ends up in life.
>>58209816
I'd say 30. Old enough that you've lived your youth, and should have a stable job and settled down, yet young enough where you won't be old and retired while your kids are still in high school, and they won't get birth defects from the age.
>>58209869
I'll be working very hard to earn the money for my retirement, I just won't be ruining my entire life in the process like you will.
>>58209728
Gynocentrism is here to stay, and you better make peace with that.
Only the extinction of biological women can make any actual change, well, that is if it happens before their voting habits make the current ethnic replacement impossible to reverse ;^)
Considering the west will likely ban artificial wombs, gynoids, fœtus genetic screening/enhancement and maybe even cyborgisation, maybe fucking off to east asia may not be such a bad idea.
An healthy dose of soulessness can do good to temper my inbred pathological altruism too, and they seem to value their own over the foreigners, and ethnocentrism is the winning long-term strategy for races : http://jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html
>>58209816
For women 17 to early 30s
For men 18-40s
>>58209935
Your goal is the MONEY, you plan on retiring at 40, that's not even half your life. There is NO way you will be able to find meaningful things to do living in a cottage for 50 years on money you earned just to sustain YOURSELF, and not society.
And I won't be ruining my life either, I'll be struggling through the ups and downs of life with my wife, meeting deadlines, working hard, staying busy, and raising beautiful children to enjoy the great life they have been given, just like I was by my parents
>>58210008
Obviously I won't just be sitting in the cottage the entire time, I'll also travel the world with all the money I saved by not getting married and having kids.
>>58210048
I'll travel with my kids
>>58210057
>ruining a vacation by bringing screeching brats along with you
May as well save the time and just burn your money and claw your eardrums out at home.
itt: recessive white people whose houses will be flattened by brown people
>>58210098
>ruined by making memories with loved ones
are you autistic? children are more than noise generators
>>58210132
>children are more than noise generators
You're right, they are also money wasters, snot producers, and pants shitters. I'm sure there are other tortures I'm not listing, and I hope I never learn of them.
this is why your race is dying>>58210150
>>58210150
If you think these things are torture there's no way you can enjoy cleanliness. They're also creative, funny, clean slates that pick up things that as adults ignore because we've seen it for so long. These memories of doing stupid stuff and learning from it will be with them and you as a parent for the rest of your lives, just like my memories are for me. You'll look back and laugh, even if you seem frustrated at the time. And when you're on vacation, you're already care free and relaxed, away from the grind of work, silly meaningless things that your kids do will make you LAUGH. They're your greatest memories, the greatest time of your life, when things that aren't important have such an impact on you because it's a FIRST. You will NEVER experience this, you will never enjoy your life.
>>58210245
>there is literally only one way to enjoy life
Nah, I'll be living in well-earned luxury. I'm going to enjoy life plenty.
>>58209776
B A S E D
A
S
E
D
I got shit to prove to my grand kids, but i will be a good Opa, just like mine was.
Because i wish to honor my blood line
>>58210292
>luxury = happiness
you're deluded and you WILL regret it
>>58210332
>wasting your youth and money = happiness
you're deluded and you WILL regret it
>>58210363
>making the most of my youth by getting married, working hard, and having kids = happiness
true...
>>58210363
I spent my youth shitposting.
It was glorious.
>>58210374
Have fun getting cucked and losing everything to alimony and child support.
>>58210377
This is the good life.
>>58208698
t. doktor kikelesbergen
Don't have kids, let the nigroid muslim race the kikes want so much genocide them all.
>>58210404
except that only happens to man^slut retards who get married on a whim and have no faith to back their fidelity
>>58208698
>implying all those posters were white
I'm having kids regardless of the woman I'm with. If she doesn't really wanna have kids then I'll go out and find one that does.
Can't have kids as hrt nuked my fertility. If I adopt (never happening) id probably ignore the shits.
