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Why aren't neo-nazis jailed?
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>waiting for the bus in the next town over
>some guy walks in and leans on the railing
>at first don't really pay attention, I'm watching an old tabby cat hunting for birds, but then I realize it's some skinhead who walked in
>oh god, it's the same guy I keep running into every few months
>14 88 tattooed on his entire back skull
>pre-1914 Hungary on his backpack
>skinhead literally embrodiered on his jacket
>huh, apparently he now sports a swastika too on his neck, that's new
>other people who arrive avoid him like he's got the bubonic plague

Why is this allowed? Why can't we just get rid of neo-nazis for the good of society? After 1945 no one would've batted an eyelash throwing human trash like him in jail. Had the times really made us go soft? It's illegal to display swastikas on public, but apparently it's okay to tattoo it on yourself and flaunt it like a deviant.
>inb4 muh freedum of speech
If people were spreading ISIS propaganda, you'd be the first to object. Nazism isn't any different. Everyone knows full well that neo-nazis NEVER stop at "speech", just like terrorists. They scheme, they plan, and eventually cause mayhem. It's in their nature. They're both cancer on a civilized society.
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why do you care, are you jew?
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why do you care, are you jew?
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>>58129291
Neo Nazis never look like the sexy Aryan men from the nazi propaganda, they always look like the fat round headed slavs from the nazi propaganda
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why do you care, are you jew?
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why do you care, are you jew?
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>>58129493
This
Aryan qts would be ashamed
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>>58129291
why do you care, you jew?
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>>58129291
why do you care, are you jew?
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>>58129493
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why do you care, are you jew?
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why do you care, are you jew?
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why do you post, are you new?
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>>58129291
We should just shoot them. They don't deserve a life, and they are certainly trespassing on my father's ideas.
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>>58129291
You are implying he's actively inciting hatred.
I for one want the crazies to out themselves. The only thing you will achieve by persecuting these people before they do anything is they will go underground.
>If people were spreading ISIS propaganda
How is him looking a certain way spreading propaganda? It's like saying my pants are oppressing you.
The moment he does something illegal is the moment you do something about it.

I want to live in a world where I can wear anything I want.
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My grandfather was a real Nazi AND Jewish.

Fuck these neo faggots for dishonouring my family proud legacy.
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[handrubbing intensifies]
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>what is freedom of speech
Protip: it includes the right to say offensive things
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>>58129493
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>tfw antifa like OP are the ones that want to take glorious neofolk music away from me
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>>58129720
>why do you care, are you jew?
No I'm not. But clearly you guys don't understand neo-nazi mentality. Do you honestly think they'd treat you better than a jew? As if. You'd be beaten into unconsciousness because you're Slovak and they hate your guts for Trianon>>58129382, you're brown and they'd probably think you're a gypsy and knock your teeth out>>58129507>>58129532
Also you're Polish, haven't you learned anything about history? Or do you wish to be raped by nazis again? Hungarian neonazis without doubt think of you no better than filth>>58129610

I could probably go on,but I hope you understand the big picture now.

>>58129973
>How is him looking a certain way spreading propaganda?
Would you ask the same if you saw some muslim with ISIS motif tattooed on him? Maybe even having their flag on display?

>>58130121
>Protip: it includes the right to say offensive things
There's a major difference between offensive things and inciting hatred. 1. You're an idiot. 2. Portugese are subhumans who should be eradicated because they have lower intelligence than whites.
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>>58129493
Slavs, specially russians were very handsome in the past, but right now they are rare.
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>>58130166
Kek, exactly
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>>58130237
some of them are very goodlooking today, the poor slavs are usually the ugly ones
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>>58130223
Aren't you going to show the difference between saying offensive things and inciting hate?
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>>58130223
>Would you ask the same if you saw some muslim with ISIS motif tattooed on him?

As with dealing with a neonazi I would exercise caution. He has the right to tattoo whatever he wants on himself. As long as he doesn't call for violence he hasn't broken the law.

>Maybe even having their flag on display?
Nazi flags are banned by law in Latvia. You can go to prison for owning one.
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>>58130223
>There's a major difference between offensive things and inciting hatred.
>there's a major difference between this subjective matter and this other subjective matter
>being this buttblasted that he got called out that he engages in offensive speech himself
Simply priceless.
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In the Netherlands neo-nazi's get police protection to prevent anti-fascists from hurting them.
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>>58130223
>There's a major difference between offensive things and inciting hatred.
There is not. Hate speech is protected in American law partially because it's impossible to differentiate intent legally.
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>>58129291
Freedom of speech mate. Do you think you should silence people with different views to you? That's what the Nazis did.
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>>58129958

Der PeruANUS...
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fuck you antifa faggot get AXIS÷÷
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>>58130629
Entire riot police squads have to walk along. :^)
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>>58130629
>anti-fascists
>hurting anyone
kek
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>>58130223
>There's a major difference between offensive things and inciting hatred.
No there isn't you fucking idiot. Anybody has the right to say whatever they want no matter who gets offended. Offense is purely subjective therefore, creating a law to prevent offense is completely and utterly retarded. You may disagree with these neo-nazis entirely but as long as they aren't actually doing anything truly illegal they have the right to hold their opinions.
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>>58130785
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>>58130809
ubermensch
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pq1aJu9G2Mo
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>>58130809
Those guys could quite easily beat every pic related easily
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>>58130809
lol, basically hooligans
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>>58129493
Most of them here are ethnic Slavs or Scots-Irish who cling to a fictitious identity because their actual heritage is unimpressive
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo51pIX-mMU

Is this a police parade?
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>>58129493
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>>58130485
Poor people look bad everywhere tho. But you are right. That isnt true about women, they are mostly very very good looking.
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>>58130900
More like fedoraigans.
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>>58130923
nobody gives a fuck about heritage, neo nazis simply hate non white people
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>>58130991
>>58130809
>>58130764
>>58130166
>>58129711
They are like this because they lack strong leadership
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You know you can vote for nazi's here in some local elections.

So far they have gotten 0 seats in any city.

Pic related is their leader.
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>>58131065
ahahahaha poor souls, I'm pretty sure that Hitler would send them to the nearest camp available
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>>58131117
You know why they dont have a strong leadership? Because they are like this.
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>>58129291
>If people were spreading ISIS propaganda, you'd be the first to object
Because nowadays they actually commit crimes against humanity.
Neo-Nazis don't; Nazi's did but Neo-Nazis don't for the most part.
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>>58130809
master race and sheit
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>>58131117
they are like this because they have no clue about the national socialism doctrine, they're just social misfits who believe they're badasses
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>>58130609
What's with your obsession with law? What about what's right and what's wrong? This is nitpicking at its finest.
Why do you think Nazi flags are banned? Because their colors are tacky, or because of what they represent? Now, use some logic and ask yourself the question. If a flag representing an ideology is banned, shouldn't the ideology itself too be banned?

>As long as he doesn't call for violence he hasn't broken the law.
Yes, neonazis are known to be quite peaceful. Just like their ideology is. When people argue that Islam isn't a religion of peace, and muslims aren't peaceful either, you ever stop to think that this line of thinking might apply to others too? Neonazism is just as violent as Islam if not more - it's a tough contest. So how can you claim its followers will be peaceful? Protip: they will not. They're extremists.

>>58130613
autism le post

>>58130636
American laws are a joke, no offense. Moving on.

>>58130800
Now that is a strawman if I ever saw one. What do you think skinheads do? Sit around a campfire and share stories?
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>>58131160
this is leader of our nazi party, they got 8% in popular vote and are in parliament
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>All the /pol/tards coming out of the woodwork to get triggered by OP
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Neo-nazis are mostly made of edgy teenagers and stupid uneducated hooligans. I'm a neo-fascist tho
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>>58131519
Wilders please.
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>>58131330
He looks pretty good tbqh
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>>58131320
>What's with your obsession with law?
It's the substance that holds society together.
>What about what's right and what's wrong?
Are you calling to overthrow society? Are you a communist?
>Why do you think Nazi flags are banned?
Because Nazi Germany occupied my country. That's why they're banned. Same with Soviet flags.

>Yes, neonazis are known to be quite peaceful. Just like their ideology is.
You can't just group a whole bunch of people together and say they're all violent. That's discrimination.
>When people argue that Islam isn't a religion of peace, and muslims aren't peaceful either, you ever stop to think that this line of thinking might apply to others too?
Well, muslim terrorists aren't peaceful. However, I highly doubt some random cunt from a malaysian village wants anything to do with terrorism.

>Neonazism is just as violent
Can you please post something that would prove all neonazis are violent? Something, anything that proves beyond the shadow of a doubt that ALL far right people are violent and a menace. If you can, I will forever shill side by side with you.
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>>58131620
he looks like pedolord
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>>58131070
I hate them too but I'm not a Nazi
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>>58131815
now you are
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>mein Kampf is forbidden
>Quran is okay
I don't get it.
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>>58131620
Smug
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We live in a democratic society - don't know if this goes for Hungary under Victor Orban.

>IN A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY EVERYBODY SHOULD DO WHATEVER HE LIKES.

Whether you like it or not. Anything else is fascism.
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>After 1945 no one would've batted an eyelash throwing human trash like him in jail

what actually happened is they served in ÁVO
knocking the teech out of anyone who disagreed with the state
fitting role
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>>58129291
>Wanting to get rid of people just because you dislike them/they have different opinion.
Sounds like you're the nazi.
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>>58130742
What is this
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>>58131837
Proofs Gypo ?
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>>58131320
>What do you think skinheads do? Sit around a campfire and share stories?
Funny that you say this, but I can't remember a single police investigation about these supposed nazis shanking or even beating anyone up, although our media and our lefties never miss an opportunity to bitch about how extreme right is on the rise when some teens in bomber jackets decide to hold a little parade.
So yeah, what skinheads actually do is sit around a pint and share stories. They're not exactly a friendly bunch, but that's not a crime yet. Face it, you're just a paranoid little bitch.
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>>58131873
what a load of bullshit especially from a german robot
you are going to charge your media clown because he insulted erdogan

your freedom stop when it lets others practicing their own freedom, nazis do that, they openly admit they want to overthrown your democrazy, just like radical islam, you so eager to give shelter to
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>>58130785
Anti-fascist are actually the violent nazis they think they are opposing.
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>>58131860
>Quran is okay
>the capital of Marx and the book of the murderer guerrilla are available in every book store

depressing 2bh
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>>58132013
You don't have shitskins, why do you have Neo Nazis
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>>58131860
>when you realize that Mein Kampf = Mein Jihad
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>>58132081
>he has no idea about nazi doctrine
cuz da joos
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>>58132081
I'm not sure. We do have gypsies though.
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>>58129291
>Watching an old tabby cat hunting for birds

wut...
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>>58131975
Emblem of the Slovakian SS-esque unit during World War 2
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>>58132008
>you are white
>you hate non white people

you qualify for neo nazi, congratulations
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>>58132030
These are the words from somebody of a communist non-country in Eastern Europe?

>Fascism in the 1930/40s banned everything that didn't comply with its law.
>Liberalism nowadays bans everything that doesn't comply with its law.

Spot the difference.
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>>58129291
Can we do the same to antifa faggots?
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>>58132167
WHY COULDN'T HE FINNISH THE JOB

FUCKING AUSTRIANS
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>>58132236
>you hate non white people
but nazism is not about hating non-white people anon...
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>>58131668
>>58132013
http://www.thelocal.de/20150824/neonazis-urinate-on-children-onboard-berlin-train

I can't be arsed to create a whole biblography, but given enough time one could probably fill an entire book with stories like these.

>>58132174
It's a stray cat, had lived next to the bus stop for years. People feed her, she's very friendly.
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>>58132503
neo-nazism is
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>>58132520
>I can't be arsed to create a whole biblography, but given enough time one could probably fill an entire book with stories like these.
People do stupid shit. I get it, but the guy you saw did nothing wrong.
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>>58132557
thank you, one more reason to despise those retards
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>>58132236
Then you are a Stalinist who wants to kill minorities in Gulags
>le Antifa intellectual
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>>58132319
i feel like stabbing your neck 50times till you bleed like a pig fact uneducated fuckface

according to your "freedom" i can do that and if im stopped its fascism, dumb germancuck no wonder mudslime replace you in your own country
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>>58130923
>>58130923
>Ethnic slav

Slav isn't an ethnicity you utter retard, it's a linguistic group, Poles are closer to Germans than they are to Southern Slavs like Macedonians and Bulgars, same goes for Russians who are closer to Fins than to Bosnians, to make an example.

Peace.
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>>58132520
Ok so arrest the guy for pissing on a child, not the fact he holds some opinions that make u cry :(((
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Neo Nazis are dumb. White people aren't superior we are silly cucks.
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>>58132906
SOMALINIGGER
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>>58132700
You bigotted faggot don't stand for what you say:

>your freedom stop when it lets others practicing their own freedom

Your communist ass wants to stab and insult others who have a different opinion than you, as well as stab those who just wear some tatoos with a swastika without having clearly assaulted anybody.

I despise pseudo-liberals from a gypsy country like Hungary.
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>>58131196
Chicken vs Eggs
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>>58133162
The answer is objectively egg
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>>58129291
>Had the times really made us go soft?
yeah, if you feel the need to bitch about what someone else does with their body and their own political alignments, i guess you are the evidence of "going soft".
he wasn't beating you up, was he? so why do you give a shit?
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>>58132658
but im not antifa, i would gas both groups
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>>58133282
>This

Guter Mann
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>>58129291
>If people were spreading ISIS propaganda, you'd be the first to object. Nazism isn't any different.
I'm in love with you Hungary
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>>58133399
Get all your friends to move there with you, I'm sure this fine gentleman of an OP will take you in as a poor refugee victim of the west :(((((((((((((
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>>58129291
good job go- I mean -guy
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>>58129291
It's not illegal to have an opinion.
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>>58133531
I'm living a happy life why would I go as a refugee?
>>58133563
there is opinion and there is hate speech and inciting violence
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Fun is, actual nazis would have put him into a labour camp for being too deviant.
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>>58133671
>guy minds his business
>people avoid him by choice
HATE SPEECH!!!
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>>58133671
shut up nigger.
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>>58133671
Not wanting to get raped or mugged isn't inciting violence.
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Fuck off.

>>58133671
Fuck off ISIS.
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>>58133771
>>58133773
>>58133985
>>58134045
>>>/pol/
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>>58134095
>points out flaws in your reasoning
STORMFAG!!!
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>>58134095
>you must be from /pol/ if you believe in the right for freedom of speech
I do believe most of them would even think on the contrary
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>>58134127
>>58134163
no you're a faggot to me if you love arguing with me cuz I have a different opinion
but yes I talked with many neo nazies and I can tell you they are at the same level of ISIS
if banning ISIS isn't a violation of freedom of speech while banning nazis is I don't know how you logic then
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>>58134375
>no you're a faggot to me if you love arguing with me cuz I have a different opinion
so i should use non-arguments like you?
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>>58134375
I highly doubt the people you talked to raped women and decapitated people, unless the "neo-nazis" you talked to were coincidentally other libyans.
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>>58134445
what?
>>58134455
Actually, they did and bragged about getting away with it too
and no they were Americans and one was French
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>>58134516
i killed 5 people in cold blood
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>>58134455
Not to mention what Nazi Germany did btw
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>>58134375
I'm fine with banning the common hobbies of ISIS members such as beheading, exploding, etc but if somebody gets an ISIS tattoo and wears a tshirt with the flag on it I don't believe they should be arrested either.
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>>58134516
>what?
"go back to pol" is not an argument, pal
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>>58134588
Well that's your opinion
most people think they should be banned and stuff
>>58134611
well int is not for racists 2bh /pol/ is
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>>58134516
Would you also believe me if I told you I have a 20 inches penis and once robbed a bank just to see if I could?

Despite the memes, western countries still have laws and people get arrested for stuff like that.
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>>58134674
good thing i'm neither racist nor a skinhead then :^)
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>>58134693
despite the laws some people get away with it
>>58134705
I actually didn't mean to point out to you i meant to tell those
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>>58133985
>>58134045
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>>58134782
No they fucking don't. Things work differently in white countries. I can assure you that if someone brags about rape, they didn't, unless of course it's your shit colored kin in a circus court like Sweden.
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>>58134862
well keep believing what you want then
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>>58131065
they are the neonazi version of Bassie & Adriaan
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>>58136294
show some fucking respect
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>>58130785
modern antifas are leftist nazis in term of violence
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uRzQitmZVs
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>>58131729
just the butthurt it caused to all you lefties was worth the vote
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>>58129973
>I for one want the crazies to out themselves.
That's basically many Americans' philosophy. We let people say horrible things because
>we can openly challenge and debate against bad ideas
>let the idiots and assholes identify themselves
I like it this way.
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>>58129291
They are not Muslims so the government don't care.
I'm sorry you have to live with nazi thrash, op.
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>>58129291
>If people were spreading ISIS propaganda, you'd be the first to object.

ISIS and Al Qaeda are actual terrorist groups and plan and carry out the mass murder of civilians, being part of them is itself a crime. Islamism on the other hand is, like neo-nazism, a political ideology that varies depending on who you talk to. Islamists and Nazis may be scum but they're allowed to exist and to talk about their views in public. Their activity only crosses over into criminal when they start trying to incite violence against individuals or groups.
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>>58137089
No. We should tolerate everything but intolerance. When your ideology can't coexist peacefully with other and calls for violence, it should be simply forbidden.
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>>58129291
>wanting to jail people for their opinions
what are you ? nazi? communist? where is freedom of speech?
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>>58137288
Does that mean I can ban progressivism because of all the hostility it spreads against straight white males?
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>>58137604
That's a meme and you know it. Besides, if what white males suffer is racism, then I don't what word you have for latinos, blacks and arabs.

>be black
>run from the police
>get shot
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>>58137780
>using the double standard bait
If white males don't suffer racism, than neither do blacks, etc.
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>>58137780
It's not a meme at all, there are plenty of progressives who advocate for the political and financial disenfranchisement of white males because they consider us irredeemably evil. There are also plenty of feminists who advocate for things like reducing the male population by 90%, or putting men in prison camps. Should these people be denied the right to talk about these things publicly?
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>>58138018
>Should these people be denied the right to talk about these things publicly?
They should be shot dead.
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>>58137891
Except that blacks people are shot by the police much more often that their white counter parts. There is also this whole "Brack HUSSEIN Obama" and other jokes on the interwebs.

>>58138018
Don't really about the US, but if it were true, then yes it shouldn't be tolerated - but most of it is actually people whining on tumblr or making legitimate points about structural racism (however often exaggerated).
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>>58138190
>Except that blacks people are shot by the police much more often that their white counter parts.
Because they deserve it.
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>>58138190
Blacks commit crimes at a much higher rate, which puts them in confrontations with the police at a higher rate, which gets them shot at a higher rate. It's not a big mystery and it's not because of """""""""""racism""""""""""""
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>>58138387
>>58138250

If the victim is running away, the policeman shouldn't shoot, ever. White guys also have less chance of being shot and have lighter sentences for the same crimes.
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>>58138190
>Except that blacks people are shot by the police much more often that their white counter parts.

the funny thing is policemen are shot at more often by black people than by their white counter parts.Karma is a bitch I guess.
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>>58138484
How about blacks stop committing crimes instead of crying muh discrimination then? Problem solved.
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>>58138510
Then perhaps we should look why there are so many black criminals, so many poor black people, so few black guys in higher education, and why black people in high posts are getting shit from the internet.

/pol/ says it's in the genes, the majority of the world says it's because of structures of racism.
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>>58138595
You're oversimplificating. I'm sorry, but I don't have the strength to continue this argument. Consider that you have won.
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>>58138484
>White guys also have less chance of being shot and have lighter sentences for the same crimes.

That tends to happen when you're less violent in general, don't have a long list of priors, and act civilized and contrite in court. A good friend of mine works for the county DA and his father is a judge and one of the things they've both told me is that black defendants shoot themselves in the foot constantly by being hostile and uncooperative with their lawyers and in the courtroom.
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>>58138484
>If the victim is running away, the policeman shouldn't shoot, ever.

Disagree. Dutch police will shoot at you driving or running away if they percieve you as a threat to the public.. And rightfully so.

That said, American cops seem pretty retarded.

>White guys also have less chance of being shot
This may mean they're less likely to be criminals though... And reports have shown that American police actually excersise more restraint around black suspects, because the media backlash about 'MUH RACISM' is so prevalent these days..

>and have lighter sentences for the same crimes.

This may mean they have no priors. Or that they got a good lawyer... Or went to court well dressed, and were respectful and polite during their trial.
The possibilities are endless... You need to take more variables into account. You can't just say 'black folks get shot more -> RACIST'
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>all the idiots in this thread saying you should "reason" with nazis and that nazis are entitled to their "opinions"

>claiming anti-fa are equally "nazistic" because they use violence against nazis


Let me explain to you why you're wrong, in hopes that you can process this

Lets take the example of murder. Murder is illegal and condemned by society, yet if a police officer see's someone attempting to murder someone else and kills him, it is considered a JUSTIFIED murder that PREVENTED OTHER MURDERS. If a murder is convicted to death, he gets killed because he is considered bad for society.

Let's transfer this stream of thought now to nazism. It is accepted and reasonable that all human beings, regardless of race/gender have the same rights. So when a group comes by whose core ideology is denying other humans' rights and using violence towards them because of their race or gender or sexual orientation or whatever, then that specific group loses it's rights as humans and should be suppressed violently. It is society's self defense to rid itself of this kind of cancerous thinking.

Get it now?
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>>58138828

Well, there also countless examples. The KKK, difficulties to get a job and higher education, shops who don't/didn't sell to black until forced to do so, /pol/ when it leaks IRL...
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>>58138968
False dichotomy. "Racism" against blacks, etc. is justified because they themselves are criminals and thus a threat to society's values. Don't want to be discriminated against? Then stop shitting up everything.
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>>58139027
>The KKK
Not a state actor.
>difficulties to get a job and higher education
Apply to many groups, not just blacks. And not all of those groups can benefit from affirmative action, either.
>shops who don't/didn't sell to black until forced to do so
Thing of the past, and hardly a reason to become a savage criminal to be honest..
>/pol/ when it leaks IRL...
Autists are the reason blacks are still held down in the US?
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>>58129291
t. A fucking jewelry
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>>58139099
a whole race of people isn't criminals. that's straight up untrue.

like saying the portuguese are all racist nazi scum because i saw your dumb ass shit posted today
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>>58138968

>a JUSTIFIED murder that PREVENTED OTHER MURDERS

If it is justified, it is not murder, anon.


>Let's transfer this stream of thought now to nazism. It is accepted and reasonable that all human beings, regardless of race/gender have the same rights. So when a group comes by whose core ideology is denying other humans' rights and using violence towards them because of their race or gender or sexual orientation or whatever, then that specific group loses it's rights as humans and should be suppressed violently. It is society's self defense to rid itself of this kind of cancerous thinking.

Except that's not how civil societies work. At all. Have you ever heard of the rule of law?
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>>58138699
Or maybe it's because the black community is dominated by a culture that glorifies egotism and hyperaggression and that looks down on intellect, etiquette, and personal accountability.

You don't live here, so you wouldn't understand. Though there are some notable exceptions, most black people live their lives in a constant state of blaming the world or some other element in it for most of their personal and collective shortcomings. It's best exemplified by Black Lives Matter, a movement which constantly organizes demonstrations and protests all over the country due to the tiny number of blacks killed by police, yet has absolutely nothing whatsoever to say about the crimes blacks commit against each other, even though over 90% of blacks who are killed are killed by other blacks. If they were actually interested in reducing violence against black people, they would start by working to reverse the culture of violence and ignorance in black communities, and not by complaining about the evils of distant white people who play almost no part in their day to day lives. But that would require admitting any responsibility for what they do to themselves, and they're simply not prepared to take that step.
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>>58139186
Is this bait? Of course not every member of the group behaves the same way but that's irrelevant. Blacks are known for being criminals and are reasonably called out for it. This is not a faulty generalization because it's a valid generalization.
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>>58136730
one of the little communist wannabe's left his number in the chat, +34 632883487 I'll leave this here for safe keeping
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>>58139209
law isn't always moral, especially in a capitalistic society that doesn't serve the masses. if a moral set of laws were to be made, human rights would be more rigorously protected and nazism would be a criminal offense.
>If it is justified, it is not murder, anon

how would you call a justified killing then? whatever you wanna call it the point doesn't change
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>>58133288
Then you are a Gypsy and therefore not human
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>>58139391
but what you are saying is wrong. for example is greece, i've never met or heard of any blacks commiting a crime. most of them are street merchants peddling some hand-made bracelet bullshit, always with a smile on their face.

american ghettos on the other hand are a cespool of crime, but societal influences play a huge factor there. you still cannot classify a whole race as criminals based on a specific demographic.
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>>58139437
what
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>other people's clothing and tattoos are LITERALLY OPPRESSING ME WAH WAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH THIS IS RAPEEEEEEEEE

Everything is offensive to someone, literally everyone would be in jail right now if we did this. How about we stick to arresting criminals instead?
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>>58139420
>law isn't always moral,
So you break the law and commit violent acts on peaceful protestors or people who wear swastikas publicly? That's moral?
> especially in a capitalistic society that doesn't serve the masses.
Kek, typical Greek..
>if a moral set of laws were to be made, human rights would be more rigorously protected and nazism would be a criminal offense.

Human rights are protected... And the freedom of expression is quite an important one.

Also, nazi-outings ARE banned in many European states. Do you really think that that helps in bringing the number of nazis down?

>how would you call a justified killing then? whatever you wanna call it the point doesn't change

Justifiable homicide. Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being, by definition... In Dutch ('moord') it's even pre-meditated by definition (probably other Germanic languages too). Anything less is manslaughter..
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>>58139528
If you never had to deal with multiple criminals who are black, gypsy, or whatever, then I can see where you're coming from. I'm basing myself on what happens in my country. There's a lot of racism against them because too many of them commit crimes, and that is unlikely to change anytime soon.
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>>58129291
Jailing people for having a different political point of view is a step towards the same thing you're trying to prevent.
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>>58139528

Note he never said the race was inherently more criminal. He said that many things that are called 'racism' by some are actually the result of the behaviors of people in those groups..

>most of them are street merchants peddling some hand-made bracelet bullshit, always with a smile on their face.

Most that are here, are not. Mostly because street peddlers are looked down upon in this country..
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>>58139585
>>other people's clothing and tattoos are LITERALLY OPPRESSING ME WAH WAAAAHHHH WAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH THIS IS RAPEEEEEEEEE
>Everything is offensive to someone, literally everyone would be in jail right now if we did this.
I think you qualify for a green card, Anto.
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>>58139835
See
>>58139528
I've seen the other side of it, too. The Mexicans I grew up with in the rural midwest were mostly decent, hard-working, family-oriented folks. They moved into the shitty old houses by the trailer park, fixed up the houses, and, in doing so, gentrified that part of town. They also made great landlords. However, this doesn't make the cholo/thug shit that happens in Chicago and out west any less of a thing.
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>>58130991
>implying both kinds of Nazi aren't total fags
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>>58130166
i blame jews
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>>58130166
The guy on the left don't even look bad.
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>>58139528
African immigrants here are generally well adjusted and financially successful, and a lot of that is due to their attitude. They're keenly aware of just how much better life is in virtually every way than whatever country they came from, and so they're happy to get to work making a better life for themselves. American blacks on the other hand are brought up being told that their lives are terrible and that the entire reason for that is the oppressive hand of whitey keeping them down. One of the worst things you can do to a person is to teach them that they're a victim in need of restitution, because it keeps them from trying to get anything accomplished on their own. They just sit around with their hands held out waiting for someone else to fix their problems for them, which of course is never going to happen.
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>>58141254
>One of the worst things you can do to a person is to teach them that they're a victim
Isn't that what /pol/ does?
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>>58141493
Dunno, I stopped posting there a couple years ago when it stopped being funny and every thread started to get derailed by stormfags obsessed with da joos.
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>>58141493
/pol/ is satire, Anon.
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>>58141493
>implying extremist views from any side of most issues aren't usually wrong
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>>58141639
I don't think /pol/ remembers that
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>>58141716
/pol/ hasn't been satire or ironic for years, Anon. We must finally admit that the people posting on /pol/ aren't pretending to be retarded anymore.
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>>58132319
You are kind of retarded, bro. No offence.
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>Hahahaha lefties are so pathetic, they can't hurt a fly, they're all pussies and hippies and cucks and women, here's a pic of the naruto liberal to prove it
>FUCKING ANTIFA LEFT-WING DEATH SQUADS, ASSAULTING MY NAZI PARADES AND BEATING US, SOMEBODY STOP THESE VIOLENT BRUTES, MUH FREEZE PEACH!
Make up your mind, /pol/cucks.
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>>58143845
>be left wing
>want other people to pay for your women studies
>want more immigrants to rape everything
>be a failure and always try to rob the successful people while calling them "evil"
>want to destroy white europe for some reason, probably not even you know why
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>>58144997
>be right wing
>want corporations to abuse workers and step on their rights
>blame every problem of your nation on immigrants and external factors that matter very little instead of fixing the system or blaming the real culprit
>be a failure and depend on things other people in the past have done to feel less of a human waste instead of acting in the present
>want to destroy anything that doesn't conform to your world view or that is different because the complexity of reality scares you
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>>58129291
I agree. They should be jailed along with Communists, Anarchists, and Radical Socialists
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>>58145428
dank meme'd hahahahahahahaha

You have no actual understanding of right-wing ideology at all.
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>>58145641
Well looks like I'm just like >>58144997 then
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>>58145428
>be left wing
>want to turn everything into african/middle eastern 3rd world shithole
>instead of just buying a plane ticket so you can experience your beheading even more authentically
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>>58142422
>>58142887
Mamadou back to the cage
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>>58145857
>be right wing
>turn every discussion with left wing into a matter of racism and other inconsequential cultural shit
>No will to discuss wealth distribution, human rights abuse and other real world problems because you're aware you would lose
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>>58146113
>wealth distribution, human rights abuse and other real world problems
Most of which are caused by left-wing regimes.
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>>58146439
>Most of which are caused by left-wing regimes
Most of which are caused by right-wing dictatorships or corporations exploiting the local population.
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>>58146113
>No will to discuss wealth distribution, human rights abuse and other real world problems because you're aware you would lose
hahahahahha

wait you are serious ???
hahahhahahhahaha
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>>58146587
>dictatorships or corporations exploiting the local population
You just described every left-wing government ever.
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>>58146113
>be left wing
>want to distribute the wealth of other people

Every time. Without evil corporations, no one would be able to pay your welfare. Without evil oil workers, you wouldnt be able to buy your problem glasses.
>human rights
Those dont even exist. Find me a human right atom. It doesnt even exist. Wah waaah waaaaah I am entitled to "human rights", what's there to discuss? Want human rights? Go and make your human rights you entitled piece of shit, nobody owes you anything.
>you would lose
Lose what? Left wing people are just useless parasites. They make nothing. They build nothing. They protect nothing. They provide nothing. All they ever do is complain..... losing left wing population would just mean no one would complain anymore.

>le we are all equal
>let me just "redistribute wealth" real quick tho
How can you even believe in evolution AND want to enforce "all equal" bullshit???? This is beyond me. You are entitled to nothing, go and work!
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>>58130923
Scots Irish have a great history actually both in Europe and in Ireland
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>>58146732
>Without evil corporations, no one would be able to pay your welfare
Basic healthcare and right to study are not welfare, my nazi friendo. You are implying humanity has to depend on literal economical dictatorships in order to survive, I'm not doing that.
>Those dont even exist. Find me a human right atom. It doesnt even exist
So you defend war crimes, abuse, slavery and many other nasty things, got it.
>Left wing people are just useless parasites. They make nothing. They build nothing. They protect nothing. They provide nothing. All they ever do is complain
That's just plain wrong. Won't even bother providing counter-evidence, it's not like right-wingers are paragon of hard work, most of them are spoiled brats draining their rich parents just like the annoying college students you are probably referring to, which are a small part of the left.
>How can you even believe in evolution AND want to enforce "all equal" bullshit?
Evolution as a natural process is fundamentally different from wanting basic rights across human societies.
> You are entitled to nothing, go and work!
Of course, I study and work. Do you?
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>>58129291
>people with opinions I disagree with should be jailed

How fascist of you.
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>>58131320
I'm amazed to see a Hungarian speak for what Liberalism really is.
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>>58129291
>If people were spreading ISIS propaganda, you'd be the first to object. Nazism isn't any different. Everyone knows full well that neo-nazis NEVER stop at "speech", just like terrorists. They scheme, they plan, and eventually cause mayhem. It's in their nature. They're both cancer on a civilized society.

Nigger, when's the last time right-wing hooligans did anything beyond beat up faggots at punk shows? That comparison is retarded and you know it.
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>>58147453
>let me invite bazillion of economic migrants (refugees dont get to pick a country) that have zero European culture, zero European values, zero European education, let me give them houses and everything, and let SOMEONE ELSE PAYS FOR ALL THIS SHIT

>damn right wing NAZIS want to invite only highly skilled and highly educated, these fucking RACIST FASCIST NAZIIIIIIIS want to stop my uncontrolled, unregulated, infinite immigration, DAMN IT NAZIS DO YOU EVEN HAVE FEEEEEEEELINGS?????????

left wing policies arent even realistic, left wing people think shit falls from the skies, you dont have to work, healthcare and human rights just fall from the skies in your lap and you are EVIL and RACIST and NAZI if you dont gift these things you worked for to everyone

fucking losers
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>>58147780
>Changed the subject
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>>58147955
>evading the actual subject
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>>58131320
How many Jews are in Hungary, anyway?
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So we all agree that neo-nazis are an eyesore at worst and that the average ''leftist'', no matter how moderate he pretends to be, is a subversive, nation-wrecking maniac?
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Wrong t b h
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>>58147955
other than "free shit for everyone, you are all winners, no one is a loser, no one has ever made a bad life decision, just blame the "evil corporation" that gave you your apple bullshit if you fail at something", immigration is the second reason I could never consider myself a leftist

Leftists have no accountability. When leftists goes and bangs his head against a wall, he wans me to be hurt..
>go to psychology uni
>everyone is a leftist
>go to women studies
>everyone is a leftist
>go to philosophy uni
>everyone is a leftist
>go to art uni, everyone is a leftist there too
>go to any place in the world where it doesnt matter if you fuck up, everyone is a leftist

Left wing people are a bunch of overly privileged, rich, sheltered useless cunts who dont give a shit about what works and what doesnt work. They just shout 'muh feeeeeelings' and their daddy grabs the wallet.
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>>58129291
>They scheme, they plan, and eventually cause mayhem
You're giving them way too much credit. ISIS actually has an active fighting force, neo nazis don't. I see no absolute neccesity to jail neo nazis for their opinions and therefore it shouldn't happen.
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>>58148333
Not really.
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I wonder if he realizes how nazi like he sounds when wanting to ban opinions that he doesn't agree with
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>>58148224
Yes, pretty much
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>>58148593
Yes really.
>no u

The only reason left wing can exist and bitch and moan, is thanks to the "evil corporation" and actual working people who build stuff and study useful things.
>wah waaahhhh wahhhhh give me more welfare and human rights wah waaaaahh waaaahhhhhhh you evil fascist nazi racist, you cant have nice things you worked for, I want I want I want waaaahhhhhhhhhhh

Go and help refugees on your own you useless shitter. Without welfare and charity and taxes you wouldnt even exist. World would be a better place without the left wing.
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>>58148766
>Go and help refugees on your own you useless shitter. Without welfare and charity and taxes you wouldnt even exist
What? Are you implying that right wingers are the one helping refugees? This attempt at conversation is going places but it's hardly costructive or informative other than hearing how much opinions hurt your fee-fee. Peace, I'm out.
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>>58148994
Leftists are taxing the working people to support refugees, they arent providing anything themselves.
A right wing person goes and makes stuff.
A left wing person goes and scream RAAAACIIIIST FAAASCIIIIIST NAZIIIIIII DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHAT YEAR IT IS????????? till right wing person surrenders part of fruits of his labor.

>philosophy_major_6_digits_in_debt_left_wing_voter.png.jpg.gif
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>>58129291
is he even Aryan master race?
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>>58138484
>White guys also have less chance of being shot and have lighter sentences for the same crimes
This is because whites are less likely to resist arrest.
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>>58129291
I rather meet extreme right people over extreme lefties tbqhwy.
Extreme right only fucks up their own lifes by getting arrested for stupid shit like fighting.
Extreme left fucks up your country by voting
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>>58149940
Why are Neo-Nazis in europe so agressive?
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>>58149940
>Europe
Everything you've said sounds right, all of Europe can't be wrong.
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>>58148333
>When leftists goes and bangs his head against a wall
They can't. Walls are racist according to leftists.
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>>58129291
Te szégyentelen, tegyél fel magadnak valami sorrendet, hogy kiket kéne a társadalmunkból először kiebrudálni.
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>>58131330
slavic nazis? wtf
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